Halo Infinite on Consoles: Xbox Series X/S vs Xbox One S/X - Can Xbox One Run It?
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- Every Xbox console tested with 343 Industries' long-awaited Halo sequel. Open world gameplay defines Infinite, on an engine that scales impressively to all consoles old and new. Xbox One gets the first billing in this analysis as we test original 2013 hardware - where a dynamic 1080p and 30fps cap are respectably held, if let down by uneven frame-pacing. How does Xbox One X, Series S and X augment this experience? Are frame-rates successfully locked at 60fps on more powerful consoles? And what of loading times? Tom runs through every version, every mode, to get you the answers in this breakdown.
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Honestly the 60fps mode on the One X is impressive.
Couldn’t believe how much better the game felt on one x switching to performance
@@Newlegacy1517 same, it really should be the default mode. Quality feels broken tbh
Upgrade your One X with an SSD and your halfway to next gen...
@@nonnygb I did and it was so worth it. We have 2 One Xs, my personal one and a family room one: I put an SSD internally in my personal one and it’s amazing, the one without honestly feels broken in comparison
Not impressive when it's at 720p.
Have the Series X in my Game room and the ONE X in my bedroom. So glad that it runs at 60fps, that console is still a beast to this day !
Big difference from online game play ?? And do other players online who have series X have advantage when shooting and all in terms or speed .?
To be completely honest, I'm utterly impressed by the base Xbox One version. Overall looks very respectable, and certainly much better than most third party games recently released on the system.
is it on xCloud though? Streaming at 1080p60 on base xbox would be even more impressive
@Keelan Behave.
@Keelan do you have that set up?
@Keelan BF1 is not open world. Something like far cry would rather be accurate.
@@vandammage1747 Wouldn’t call that more impressive, streaming is far less demanding than the game running on Xbox One hardware, if anything it’s more of a benchmark for your internet lol
I was really impressed with my One X performance. You can feel the load times are long, but overall Performance is damn solid.
I use an SSD for my external storage on my One X. Have Halo and Forza 5 installed on there. Load times are drastically reduced.
I have an internal SSD in my One X and the game loaded the first time around 16.5 seconds. Reloading from dying was around 4-5 seconds. All similar to the Series S. In performance mode I forgot I wasn’t playing on my Series X. Very impressive IMO.
@@rockapartie the frame rate is solid but the frame pacing is just so bad, really hoping they patch it soon because without that it looks absolutely stellar. Atleast performance is essentially the same thing with more frame and reduced resolution
@@rockapartie it's a mess on series s and x too. The second I turned it on and starting playing I became dizzy. It was insanely disgusting to look at , all 17 frames of it 😂
@@rockapartie everyone knows 30fps sucks
Reminder that Halo 4 was a technical and visual masterpiece on Xbox 360 at 720p30 while running at 1080p60 on base Xbox One
It’s a good point. I hear some say that Halo was never about the graphics - and not with disregard to the gameplay, but combat evolved (showcase for the OG Xbox), Halo 2 (best graphics of it’s generation), Halo 3 (unprecedented visuals outside of maybe crisis) and Halo 4 as you say would suggest a legacy very much in space of superb visuals
@@Archivist42 I'd say only Halo 1 and 4 had groundbreaking visuals for their time. Every other Halo was mostly perfunctory (never on the bad side. Halo 5 is also really high there, but no AF, draw distance, low shadow resolution and quite low dynamic resolution drags it down massively)
Halo 2 best visuals for Xbox generation? Not even close. For reference, OG Xbox runs: Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, Chronicles of Riddick, Doom 3, Half-Life 2, Far Cry Instincts, all which are vastly more impressive than Halo 2.
@@Archivist42 Halo 3 540p?!?!it look good on MCC but it was heavyly criticized for the graphics on Xbox 360
Halo 4 didn’t have ground breaking visuals
@@FlipFlopGod Still one of the best looking Xbox 360 games
and looking like new game on MCC
Really impressed with base XBO. Well done guys. That is a hell of a feat
it REALLY is, especially when you compare this to something like Cyberpunk, or wtih GTAV back when it launched on 360 /Xbone back in its day. this is EIGHT YEAR OLD hardware (christ, am i really that old now? feels like yesterday)
@@_devolve Nah, cyberpunk isn’t the best comparison cuz that game is unoptimized as shit
I agree, but this is done at a cost of the XSX version looking like a remaster of a last-gen game and nowhere near a true next-gen game. The same issue is there with multiple cross-gen titles on both Xbox and PS. The issue carries over to PC as well, as you can't increase the graphics much beyond the XSX version.
@@dusanmihajlovic3587 yea. I really hope they ditch base Xbox One. But the problem is that most xbox players only have that. Its nearly impossible to get a next gen machine, except for Series S
@@_devolve Cyberpunk 2077 looks awesome on Xbox One S. No argument.
As someone with an internal SSD in my old Xbox One X, I may load it up and see what the loading times are compared to HDD for fun since I will be playing on Series X. In Forza, it cut a massive chunk off of loading times although it can’t touch Series consoles by any means.
Same here, SSD in my one X. I’m actually going to install it to all my systems, Series X, One X and One S just to compare loading times.
I added an enclosed M.2 NVME to my One S Gears of War Red console. It seemed almost as fast as Series S loading for games. I have since moved it to an external drive for my Series S. I haven't noticed a difference between internal SSD and external SSD loading speeds. M.2 NVMEs are amazing. I have the Intel version; didn't work with my older PC so bought an enclosure and use it as external Series S storage, 1TB.
I loved my Xbox One X Scorpio and yes, installing an internal SSD made a big difference to the stock drive, reducing load times significantly. Mind you, I really love my Series X, quick resume is fantastic, especially as I have one Series X in my office, I can sneakily switch it on a resume my game within about 10 seconds, making it much harder for my boss to catch me in the act.
I’m downloading now at 100Mbps, almost finished now.
@@DEMediaDrive i'm sorry, how did yyou add an m.2 nvme ssd to an xbox one s??
@@DubElementMusic kids (parents can be very cheap and uneducated when it comes to gaming computers) and people who buy junk prebuilts on Amazon, AliExpress, etc that still use HDDs.
It’s really amazing what they’re able to achieve with those Jaguar Cores. That FX platform is still kicking and it looks amazing on One X.
we only imagine what series x will do in 2 years. 4k 60 with even higher fidelity is 😎
Jaguar is a separate architecture from the FX/bulldozer series. It's a low power mobile core and doesn't have the split core and cache design.
@@Jaker788 i heard it was considered trash even back in the day (the jaguar)
@@coolsteve1342 It was a bit like the Intel Atom core, although Jaguar used out of order execution unlike the Atom cores at the time, it also have AVX support with a 128 bit execution width. Apparently they did share cache, L2 was shared between 4 cores with no L3.
It wasn't very fast, but it was reasonably efficient. I'm not sure how it compared to Atom at the time though.
@@sharathvasudev honestly what I look forward to there is just a far more dynamic world with more physics & AI going on like wildlife, weather, the open world not just using the same handful of assets (thanks to SSD data streaming) - even large-scale destruction & transformation where your actions in missions have an effect on the wider world.
The biggest problem in Infinite IMO is how static & homogenous the world is.
It seems like they'd changed the framerate caps in the series S modes of 60/120 to 30/60 and forgot to bump up the resolution. Series S version looks rushed comparing with the others.
@@rockapartie yet far cry 6 performs and looks way better? Its optimization buddy 343 has no experience in open worlds.
@@jisooarrambide5536 it's both dude if the series s wasn't such a hold back it would be much easier to optimise between the two
@@TristanTheVRGamecat so why is far cry 6 1440p at 60fps?
@@jisooarrambide5536 no buddy, its the experience that studio has for doing right optimization at the availible hardware, and the series s is a scum in that point
@Airmanareiks they are both using the same architecture which means you can more or less give an accurate prediction how well irl perform. It’s 3x slower flat
They're getting every ounce of power out of the OG X1, I'm rather impressed its still able to run this. This is some quality programming at work.
@Transistor Jump for an 8 yr old console with an ancient cpu and gpu I think it looks as good as it'll ever look on the console, which isn't half bad.
@@briengakaplan-b1550 we have seen games like rdr2 on base consoles, halo being on base xbo doesnt seem that suprising
@@jin3257 Fr lmao, people are praising it too much, this game should run better on ALL do the consoles then it does but it diesnt
Yeah to be fair it is an impressive send off for the one x
@@lum1notryc828 I feel like im taking crazy pills. People are saying this is a good showing for the Xbox One? When you have open world last gen games that look and run better, i would even say FC4 or 5 look better than this, then you have stuff like RDR2 and lets not even talk about Sony's 30fps open world games like Spider Man, Horizon or Ghost that look and run way better on base PS4. This is a poor showing for the biggest franchise and AAA game from Xbox.
Compared to how Series X looks, I’d say they did a great job at scaling this game to last gen consoles, unlike CDPR as of recent
But it looks like a last gen game as a result. Forza did a much better job. Quality mode looks leagues ahead of Xbox One. This is not the case here.
Well it started development on last gen consoles so the series versions are ports
At least CDPR let us have an almost unlimited range to turn up the graphics, though, On PC this game here (Halo) looks awful, the lighting is laughable compared to 2077.
Exactly my thoughts. Much more positively surprised with these versions than the series X and PC.
Maybe cause Its originally meant to be a last gen game. Certainly looks like one
I think the 1080p30 on Series S is just for marketing reasons (favouring Series X). That machine could easily handle 1440p30 or even 2160p30 in my opinion.
For a next Gen console I expected 1440p 60fps in quality and 1080p 120fps performance. Especially for a game developed by 343 and microsoft
It will once they are not making games for Xbox one anyway. Then they can target all the features. However it is still only a 4 tflop machine at the end of the day.
As they should be, the Series S isn’t even worth it to begin with lmao.
@@corpsegrinder5064 you don't understand anything about game's do you
As someone who is stuck on the Xbox One S I'm quite happy with how it looks and runs. Honestly it's very impressive compared to a lot of games we've been getting lately.
I'm happy to be playing the game on the One S too. I wasn't planning on getting it because I thought it would be a very downgraded version but I play on a 1440p monitor and it looks good. I'm satisfied. As long as I get to experience the story.
@@GeorgeNadaYT well you don't have to plan to get it with gamepass 😏
Don't forget if you have Gamepass Ultimate you can stream the game (on your Xbox One) which should be running on Series S hardware (so possibly up to 60 fps). Yes, there will be a slight input delay, but it's honestly completely acceptable. It's certainly better than playing the game at 30 fps with bad frame time and worse visual settings.
@@SabatSch95 I wish I could but my internet isn't good enough to stream to my Xbox without serious artifacts
@@SabatSch95 Don't Xbox cloud games run on XSX hardware?
Even though I have a One X at home, I have my launch Xbox One at my parents' place so I can play Halo Infinite MP when I go to visit them. It is a surprisingly decent experience with a wired internet connection and game mode enabled. Looking forward to checking out the SP.
I do the same, was playing warzone all last xmas break on the og black xbox one at my parents place and it was a great time.
What’s the frame rate on multiplayer on the Xbox one ?
@@Colly9177 30
Forgot to mention that I replaced the original controller (stuck on firmware 2.3) which came with the launch Xbox One with a used Xbox One X controller on latest firmware 5.11 and there is a definite improvement in input latency. Further, using wired headphones with Dolby Atmos enabled is another big plus.
Competitive multiplayer shooters beg for 60fps or better. The improved input response being the critical factor.
I get that we all wanna love this game but the Series S's slogan is "simply next-gen" and I'm not seeing anything next-gen about its version of Halo Infinite
strongly hoping they'll at least optimize better for Series S over time
@@rockapartie this is 100percent bad optimizing on 343 part. We all knew they didint exactly have a portfolio containing open world games but damn it really shows the lack of experience.
This is purely on 343. Forza Horizon 5 makes Halo Infinite on Series S seem laughable.
@@rockapartie series s has better ram cuz one x is ddr5 and series s is ddr6 it only has better graphics cars but since series s is 1080p and one x is 4k the series s should still have way better frames per second
It looks great for a $300 console, not sure what the deal is. No $300 PC could run it this well. People's perception of "next gen" comes from what the series x and ps5 can do, it's impossible for series S to match that.
@@nahi27 that's really not true the series s was targeted perform exactly the same as series x with only difference being in resolution of 4k to 1080p. Also take a look at the size of the game the entire campaign is only 18 gbs that's not a tough game to handle. Warzone is 80gb and can handle 120 fps and the graphics look better aswell
Really wouldn't be bothered with 120fps mode on Series S but I would love to see them maybe get up to a dynamic 1440p60.
Wishful thinking but the performance in multiplayer on Series S is fantastic.
They should be in so disappointed that I bought a aeries s now! Smh
@@akkibajaj705 Expecting 120fps from a Series S is stupid in the first place though. Having 1080/1440p and 60fps for 300$ is already luxury. Why always asking more than what you can get...
@@MadX8 Doom Eternal does 1080p 120FPS like an absolute champ on the XSS, looks stellar and feels so smooth. Halo Infinite looks somewhere between Halo 3 and 4 graphically, to my eye, so I'm really surprised they dropped the ball. One of the reasons I got an XSS to supplement my PC and XSX is the occasional "eSports" title at 1080p 120FPS, dynamic resolution is fine by me. They literally advertised Infinite as having 120FPS on XSS, man. Huuuuuge disappointment, I'm not even gonna play it on that system.
@@FFFan3445 In my eyes it looks better than any other Halo game. Obviously. There's plenty of content showcasing how the game looks but I'm currently playing it on my pc and it looks better than the entirety of the MCC which I've played multiple times over but maybe on the Series S it does look worse? smh
@@MadX8 Bruh the new Halo isn't THAT pretty with some adjustments to the settings it should easily hit a dynamic 1080p 120fps you'd just have to put the settings down to what would be mid to low settings on PC.
How may videos of Halo Infinite you guys can release in one week?
DF: yes
Being stuck with the OG xbox one sucks, but I was still able to enjoy this game and got chills so many times. Amazing job on the optimization 343
Love that cloud streaming will keep even O.G. xbox one a viable console.
You not stuck you just can’t afford the other consoles there’s a difference 😂😂 you had plenty of opportunities to upgrade from that
@@deanta14 Try growing a brain cell or two in your spare time.
Just started playing this on my Series X and I'm HAVING A BLAST!
sometimes I cant believe how much work DF put into literally every minor detail in there videos
It's impressive how the Xbox One X is able to run it even close to 60fps at times, but I still can't help but wonder how Infinite would've panned out if it came out last year. Especially given the rough optimization on PC when not capped to 60fps.
Or if it was just optimized for next gen and PC, I wonder how the game would've looked
Tbh in this case at least One X> Series S
Looks like the One X can very well run most next games if devs want to develop for it.
@@alexandrecl4331 One X can not run at all proper next gen games because the jaguar CPU is a dog shit performer. Thats what defines Halo Infinite, it is not a next gen game because it was built up in the enclosure that is the jaguar.
^ it can’t run next gen games at 60 fps because of that. However it won’t have any problems running them at 1080-1440p/30. One X could last a lot longer if Microsoft wanted.
@@alexandrecl4331 not this argument again, why people still think one x is better than series s?
They got it working on original Xbox one. Remember when Cyberpunk 2077 came out and people were trying to defend it saying "Yeah it's selling on PS4 and Xbox One but it wasn't meant for last gen so don't get mad because it's broken"... Lol
Yeah and it was broken for all systems. They were just in denial.
Yes the triplet is here, this one must have been a real labour to put together. Good work Tom.
It's good to see the entire team looking at this one.
Ofc, they're in the pocket of MS. Need to promote this hard af
@@Mutation80 seeth
@@Mutation80 Nothing to do wiht the fact that it's a big launch, a lot of people are waiting for it, and that means it brings in views. What do you expect them to do? Give half-assed coverage and flush a shitload of views down the toilet? Don't be silly.
@@nicwilson89 yeah again what do these people expect them to do? *Halo infinite is out* every whistles and puts their hands of their ears..
I’m hoping 343 update the quality mode back to 1440p on series S
Same hope they re add 120fps mode.
1440p60 and 1080p60
I'm glad I have a One X. Hopefully I can get a Series X off the shelf before 2023
With someone that grew up on Atari, I love stepping back and realizing how far came consoles have come. But also how picky we’ve become with graphics.
Looking forward to playing this on my Series S!
I'm glad that the Quality mode on Series X runs at 60 fps. I hate having to make the trade-off between 60 fps or best visuals in other games. Here I get just the best and that's it. Love that.
Optimization by 343 across all platforms is commendable. Very happy with how this game looks and performs(Especially on the SX).
doesn't seem optimized on series s. it lost features from beta and has same cpu as x.
@@terrydavid86 It's the GPU that's holding it back. A more modern feature set compensates somewhat, but can't reach the desired resolution/frame rate targets that the One X does. It should be a bit closer though, which does make the Series S version seem a bit unoptimised.
I still love my One X man. Seriously. Great to see it getting the support it deserves and not left behind
I loved my one x until I got the series X. Now I can't stand the fps and loading times on it. It was definitely my favorite last gen console though.
Better than the Series S here
@@scissortongue5772 try on the Stalker 2. Halo is bad optimized
@@wg8561 For those of us though still to land a Series X I'm happy. I got a Series S, but all the games I played were better on the One X, I gave the S to my son. X is different gravy though, I'm very aware but for now I'm very happy with the support the One X is still getting.
@@BACK2PORT Series s plays most games at 60fps though, one x is only 30.
Still remember playing Halo CE back in Christmas 2003 when I first got the Xbox, it came as part of a bundle (along with Midtown Madness 3 and Lord of the Rings Returning of the King)! Beautiful days!
I’ll take the 60fps mode on Series S. low resolution but at least good frame rate which is more important.
Might as well save up and the X for an extra $150
it is extremely blurry in 60fps :(
@@scorpa106 Extra $200, not $150, and far less available. I lucked out and got an XSX in December 2020, and I've been trying since then to get one for my father. Haven't had a single other opportunity. I bought my sister's household two XSS systems and they almost always have them in stock at my local Walmart, man.
One x > series s
@@GarryDaltona are you using a potato as your tv?
Yeah honestly around 5:20 that's a pretty hard take. If I had an my original XO and it played this well and looked this good for an almost decade old machine, I'd be pretty happy. They also probably got it ready for XO, got told at one point the One X was planned and to build it around that, then the same for series X.
This game is amazingly optimized and I love the videos you guys and been putting up. Thank you ❤️
You would be happy with those graphics? Idk why people are settling when the game is made for that console. Just because it’s last gen it don’t mean anything and this is a Microsoft publisher game. It looks very xbox 360 like and that’s sad
I remember when you guys did more split screen testing. I would really love to see that return
I realize I'm in the minority since i pretty much stopped caring about graphics improvements around the X360/XBone transition era, but I'd love it if they just targeted 60fps minimum on all platforms and built the game on that foundation.
You can't expect the open world to run on the ancient CPU in the Xbox One S at 60 though surely :)
@@DEVILTAZ35 Depends on how low down the resolution dips. I'm willing to live with 720p at 60fps on the Xbone. Maybe even lower. I'll take the fluid and responsive frame rate over the effects any day. But your point is well taken: It may not have been possible.
I’d love to see what the load times of a stock Xbox one x Vs one which has been upgraded with an SSD to see how that scales
On my XOX it's 25.06 sec. from game main menu to gameplay on my old Samsung 970 Evo (480 GB) external. In game between missions less but did not measured it yet. I'm really happy with the result.
SSD on the last gen machines won't work with the fullest potential. easier to get a current gen already and don't struggle :)
@@JAKOB1977 I can confirm that even external SSD with XOX give loafing times close to new consoles in many cases. Cyberpunk 2077 have almost same loading times like on PS5 (2 sec difference max).
the major difference is quick resume. you jump right back avoiding all other screens.
Really disappointed by the series s performance. The frame rates are all over the place, which is crazy because the multiplayer was pretty steady. Hopefully the update didn't ruin it
That console is going to hold back next gen gaming why the hell did they make it less powerful than the one X
Are you getting odd little stutters in the campaign as well on series s? I have searched everywhere for someone with the same issue as me. I want to be sure it's not my Xbox causing the odd stutters and weird 50fps cutscenes.
IDK about you all but the resolution on the Series X is not that great as well especially when you set it to performance mode with 120hz enabled. From my perspective the game really looks like an Xbox one version. Who knows if a performance patch will be released.
@@cowqx8059 It will be fine once they use full RDNA 2 . They know what they are doing and Developers love the little thing anyway. The Unreal Engine 5 Matrix tech demo is seriously impressive on Series S. The One X can't even run the demo.
No it's not. In performance mode XSS runs 60fps flawless.
I want to see a video about running Halo: Infinite on the really old hardware the game is technically compatible with. Halo: Infinite on Radeon 7970 por favor!
nope
This makes sense since Halo Infinite was designed on the Xbox one.
The frame pacing issues in cutscenes (series X) is so much more noticeable in-game than on TH-cam. Sorry for ever doubting you, guys.
Love the feel of performance mode on my One X, definitely good enough for me until I get a series x. Can't wait to get home and play more of this game today, gee, haven't said that in quite a while 😂
@@rockapartie agreed the series s should just be dropped what a waste of time calling it a next gen console advertising it as a 1440p box when barely any games run higher than 1080p
I've got to say, I really like Thomas' new narration style. Well done!
It is good but everytime he says Halo it sounds like he is saying Hello.
I'm really surprised that Series S is only running at 1080p in quality mode, when it can hit 60FPS at 1080P with DRS and only minor settings reductions - seems like they were trying for 60 quality and 120 performance but couldn't make it work well enough so used this as a fall back? I would have preferred quality mode at 1440p, those 3-way comparisons make Series S look very blurry but the overall game looks pretty clean
XSS is a console aimed to 1080p settings, and works great on it, what serves 1440p? Get a Series X instead.
@@theretromachine is it aimed at 1080p though? I don't recall xbox ever talking about it being a 1080p machine. I have a 55' 4K display, so 1440p would look much better than 1080p. I would get a series X if A, they were easy to find, B they didn't take up so much room. It would not fit in my current TV cabinet and there's no way I can justify buying a whole new TV cabinet just for a new xbox.
@@theretromachine the console literally supports 4k that's one of it's selling points that it's powerful at a low price?
a redo of this video would be a godsend given how halo infinites last content update drastically hurt performance on pc, be interested to know how much the consoles where affected
Quality mode on S is baffling, almost to the point of making me think its a bug and it was not supposed to render at that resolution
Same!
So Series S runs at dynamic 1080p and 30fps with better textures on quality mode, or 1080p 60fps on performance mode?
It's a shame, I expected at least 1440p 30fps, or 1080p 120fps.
1080p120 in open world? Did you expect XSX to be 1800p120 too?
It's very optimistic to expect a tripe-A cutting edge game to run at 1080p 120 FPS on Series S
@@franciscofarias6385 the x drops below the s in performance mode. The s has the most consistent ranges of resolution
@@hunterbowser667 I'm sorry, I don't get your point
@@franciscofarias6385 cutting edge game? Lol
Thank you very much for this video; it was extremely detailed and helpful. As someone who has never owned an XBox before (I only ever played the original Halo on my cousins’ console back in the day) I was really in the dark about what, if any, advantage there would be in paying $500 for a next-Gen console when the game is also available on older, cheaper hardware. Given that I don’t have a TV capable of displaying in 4K anyway, I think the XBox One X makes a lot more sense for me. It’s much more affordable and still looks great.
I think it's a better deal than a Series S. I recommend at least an external SSD connected to it. I have an internal one in mine
I'm happy with series S I just want a locked 60 fps with at least 1080p and MS has given me plenty of games that hit that
Honestly the fact that the XB-OXkeeps up and even surpases one of the newer consoles in some areas, is extremly impressive. And the sole reason Im not planning to upgrade until the next gen comes out
No surprise there. This game began its hands-on-keyboard-development when Xbox One was at its prime, and the One X being announced internally.
This game was developed for those 2 consoles. The Series S/X was a bonus.
6:52 What? Anamorphics??? 2400x1440 instead of 2560. I can't believe they resorted to anamorphics after all this time. I thought we were finally passed this. Halo 2 at 720x480p widescreen, Halo 3, ODST, and Reach at 1152x640 (648 would've made it a perfect 16:9, big mistake), Halo 4 reaching 1152x720 (16:10 stretched to 16:9) widescreen. Halo 5 finally drops anamorphics altogether and just dips down to 810p. Sheesh, anamorphics will never leave, especially when I use it for media conversion to my retro consoles, like 352x240 for VCD.
Looking at that Frametime graph I feel like I'm watching a video on a FromSoftware game. I really hope they can clean that up in a patch bc that is a YIKES from me
Great video and thank you for all the hard work Tom!
Happy Infinite Day Spartans and go stomp the Banished!
Did any of the performance issues in this video on the Series S get fixed with the recent updates?
Just had tp download a 60gb update after not playing the game since last spring.
Good stuff, the scalability of the game is definitely impressive although it is a little bit surprising to me how hard it is for the game to hold a 120fps framerate on both the Series X and PC. CPU usage doesn't seem to be that high on PC, yet from benchmarks I've seen the performance difference between a 3060ti, 3070, and 3080 is pretty small which almost implies it IS CPU bound.
Perhaps the game was just never designed with >60fps in mind, which I suppose would make sense since it started out as a Xbox One only game. Hope that in future updates the 120fps mode on Xbox Series X stabilizes more and the PC version is able to hit that framerate with relative ease as well.
I do find it a little bit baffling how a game that runs generally at 30fps 1080p on the Xbox One can't hit an average above 100fps on the lowest settings at 1080p on my PC (GTX 1080 and i7 8700k)
Poor optimisation on 343s part
Yeah it’s the CPU optimization, on GeForce I have the performance stats up and during open world the CPU goes much high and then results in jittering . I have a 3070 ….. and I’m hitting 50 fps on ultra 1440 in outdoor environments , indoor roughly 90
Uh could you say that in normal people language nerd
@@TheNaturalGamer1 game run good on old but meh on new
@@kameronrogers4000 that makes no sense
Video starts at 3:43 no halo pun intended
Appreciating the dedication to Infinite content guys - loving the Xbox Love
“Its been 6 years since halo 5”
Okay yeah im starting to feel old lol
I’ll pick up a Series X when they become more available. But for the time being the Series S is great. It’s a surprising little beast tbh, it’s now seeing more use than my PS5.
Series S with Gamepass is absolutely amazing.
Maybe wait a little bit, in like 3 years we might get a midgen refresh that runs better than Series X. You'll still be able to play all game on Series S for the time being
@@rickyfelan it really lacks the storage without expansion card tbh
Thats cause you playing games with that battlepass. If that battlepass was taken away that series s wouldn’t get any use.
Thanks for the in depth vid. 👍
I have an X1 and it's nice to know I don't have to wait till the new systems become more available before I can play this.
Man I love the Xbox One X. I wish mine hadn't died. Kicked the bucket during a storm. It was the one console I forgot to take out of rest mode and turn completely off. RIP old friend.
Damn that sucks! My condolences!
X1X was an amazing console. It was remarkably both the smallest console of last gen AND the most powerful. I went away from Xbox with the initial release of Xbox One, but the One X brought me back and I haven’t left since
I think the design of the One X is my favorite of any Xbox. Its just so sleek for how much power it packs.
No surge protector?
This is exactly why I unplug all my consoles after using them
Series X-version is really good. Finally they got the Halo CE-feeling back!
But please fix the stuttering in movie sequences.
They really need to let other soldiers drive vehicles though. Even if it is a next gen only patch. It's just weird as i am so used to it and i keep getting in the passenger seat to see how the drive lol. They handled vehicles pretty well via AI drivers in Halo 5.
@@DEVILTAZ35 Guess it is a problem with open World, how could they know where I want to go? And I am not a fan of putting markers everywhere I want my soldiers to go, like a strategy game. Stay here, go there...
It’s really devastating to me that Halo Infinite is not 120fps on series s. That’s the reason why I bought series s to play 120 but I can’t play it on Halo, Xbox’s flagship title, yes I can play 120 on fortnite for example but I play Xbox for Halo man 😭 really gutted.
It has a 120fps mode
best infinite xbox comparison!! there are a lot of videos out there, but you guys rock!
Thomas Morgan featuring a stuffy nose, lol.
Fomas morgum
Lmao so subtle
get well soon brother
All versions beside the Series S one look great. They should work on that post launch and optimize it at least a bit more.
Something is seriously wrong with the S version. At almost 3x the GPU power of the base Xbox, it's odd they are at the same resolution. I would have expected dynamic 1440p 30 and 1080p 60 without dynamic rez.. oh well. Another patch i guess
I’m guessing the series s/x versions will be getting much more attention post launch. Whatever they’re like today should be considerably better in a couple of months.
I think that if it ran at the same settings as the One then they could have had the same 60/120 quality/performance mode that the X has.
Same. The fact it doesn’t run at locked 1080p60fps is weird. Find it hard to believe it’s not capable of that
I have a PS5 and a one X, and yeah ps5 has a slight improvement but man the Xbox one X is so solid. Play MW2 on Ps5 im impressed at the graphics, but today just playing Halo 5 on one X and I’m impressed. I feel like specs and numbers don’t always into like for like output/comparison. Love my Xbox.
Something up with Tom's voice in this one? Seems like he has a bit of a lisp or maybe getting over a cold?
Either way, we love ya, Tom!
One X version is just amazing. That performance mode is incredible
The series S needs major work
Let this be the last AAA to be made ‘with the base xb1 in mind’.
That said it’s a helluva send off for xb1 and one x. A 60hz mode with those jaguar cpus in an open world game is a modern miracle
AAA?
There's a weird flickering and fps issue going on with Series X when playing in quality - mode (system set to 120hz, VRR on). When exiting Halo, starting another game, and switching back via quick resume, the issue is gone. Hope they're already aware of this and a fix is underway..
Yoooooo I came here looking for this. My quality mode on series x is terrible. Also set to 120hz and VRR but it doesn't feel like 60fps at all. I had to go down to performance mode and oddly that feels just like 60fps and not 120fps. Quick resume hasn't solved this for me yet, I hope it's fixed soon.
@@Timeforceletsgo Try turning off VRR! I've played some games where 60 fps doesn't feel right, and turning off VRR seemed to help.
Let me know if it helps! Still trying to figure it out myself 😊
@@Brisingr73 I tried this earlier, and I even bumped down to 60hz. It's weird, the quality mode feels very choppy, and cannot be hitting 60fps consistently at all. The performance mode however is pretty smooth but as I said earlier, it doesn't feel like it's targeted at 120hz. Just something feels off, and I hope it's fixed soon. For now I can play it and performance and take the image quality hit, having too much fun to stop.
@@Timeforceletsgo Damn that sucks. I haven't played the campaign yet but I hope they fix the issue soon!
Hate on XSS goes hysterical now. Game is great on that console and runs butter smooth in performance mode. Everyone who tried it knows it.
That Series S quality mode is just... embarrassing. It looks so similar to the performance mode, is massively upstaged by the One X, and still holds on to the jittery 30fps. It makes me worried that the Series S may hold back the X or any future upgrades much later in this generation. That said, I'm very impressed by what they did with the Xbox One systems, especially the X. Having a decent resolution 60fps experience on all but the 2013 model is really nice, and the visuals on Xbox One are great for the system in general.
How would it hold back XSX when it's literally the same tech except for a downscaled gpu?
There has to be something wrong with the Series S version right now. Something must be draining the performance in a huge way. 343 must be still trying to figure out what's holding it back. Once it get fixed it should run 1080p and 60 frames no problem, like multiplayer.
@@vandammage1747 Because a last-gen system is doing better than this current-gen system.
@@johnjoehoran6285 It should be dynamic 1440p 60fps easily on the Series S.
this gpu heavy game thats why one x quality look better. but in future cpu heavy game not even on one x. strong cpu not add too much series s now bcouse game still out mind of old cpus. if ı were them ı drop shadow quality on series s and make texutres like close to one x. but series s try to use series x shadow lighitng effetcs etc that why texture and resılation hit. ı think they cant make shadows like xbox one on mode called quality. the ground quality is better on serie s. it look more blury bcouse of resolatioı not 4k. series s never called a 4k machine already it should be look good on 1080p tv or monitor. quality mode should give 1080p 30 and peformacne give 1080p 60 or 120fps.
Great to see the One X still kicking ass!
It should be targeting 1440P 60, and dynamic 1080p 120 on the series S. The console is more than capable at sub4k with the right optimization, devs just don't want to put in the extra effort. I'm afraid MS will kill this console, but they've probably already made their money back plus some with everyone mindlessly buying their super overpriced proprietary expansion drives.
@Airmanareiks Elaborate? It makes perfect sense, the series s is and has been advertised for 1440p up to 120fps since release.
@@Jack-yt1fu He is just triggered
@@Jack-yt1fu The series s is selling too well for microsoft to kill the console
I didn't mean literally, I mean kill the entire concept of the console. It's looking like the Series s days of next gen 1440p up to 120 are over, now it's just a small pretty looking Xbox one.
Really good Video DF.
It's looking like 60fps is the way too go on anything that isn't the Low End Xbox systems.
I've only got a Series S, so 1080p/60fps Performance Mode is the Mode I am gonna be sticking with methinks.
I would like too see a 120fps Mode on the Series S maybe at 720p and a 1440p/30fps Mode on the Series S wouldn't go a miss either, if 343 could Add them in at some point, it would be very much be appreciated.
I would much prefer 1440p at 60fps. And 1080p at 120fps.
@@AscensionINC-zi1jz if that happens on the Series S, I would be more than happy with that 👍.
@@AscensionINC-zi1jz Same.
I bet in a while they'll patch that out but I still think it looks good
The Series S was a surprise Black Friday winner in terms of sales. I wonder how many people (including myself) are playing this version? I can't find a Series X anywhere so I'm pleased to have a version that looks terrific and can run at 60fps. Even if I hadn't upgraded from the One S, I would have been happy. The Series X is a powerhouse and is the winner. But I feel there are no losers here either.
I'm running it on my series S, looking great and having a blast playing it
@@mattgraham6231 The performance mode looks virtually the same as the "quality" and flawlessly runs at 60fps. I'm having a blast too! The "quality" mode is a letdown because the 30fps actually looks bad. On the One S, it's also 30fps for some reason, it seems smoother and more appropriate (and perhaps an unintentional homage to a classic Halo).
Very happy I transitioned to PC. I was playing initially on Series S during the flights and was loving the 120FPS, such a shame that they took the option away. Most people that want the 120hz option are comp players so giving up some image quality is not a big deal to us
So I'm a little disappointed at the Series S performance. For one Microsoft marketed the series s as a 60 fps at 1440p. 4 tflops rdna2 full feature set vs 6 tflops old gcn xbox one x. But it seems the One X is still the more powerful machine in terms of resolution and holds its own in performance vs the Series S. I know that the textures are better on Series S but that resolution difference is "stagerring". You would think with all the full rdna 2 feature set that Microsoft championed plus the faster cpu and rdna2 cu's which are bigger than gcn cu's plus the higher gpu clocks that it would at the minimum equal xbox one x with better performance. There must be a cost saving bottleneck to the series s. The very low bandwidth/ ram? I have a series s and it's kind of a bummer.
Would you still recommend it on the series s? I have one myself and basically bought it for this game.
I think it's the RAM amount. One X is 2GB more than Series S and that's significant for resolution. Not to mention the bandwidth of the RAM is much greater on One X. This is the reason I never let go of my One X when I got the Series S so I can play games that are CPU bottleneck on the Series S and GPU and RAM restrained games on the One X. I would like a Series X but couldn't get one so settled for Series S earlier in the year. It's fine for the most part.
@@chazzilla8919 it still looks great. My only gripe was in the overall performance and resolution when compared to the last gen One X. It still looks good though and I recommend it !
This is rare example of the One X completely beating the Series S. While the Series S has similar gpu capability and far better cpu capability, this game seems to want bandwidth and framebuffer size. I guess that higher res is tough on the Series S regardless of frame rate. Curious to know what power consumption is on the different modes. 40 fps could have been a better option as well.
Overall, I do not miss my Series S compared to One X. I much prefer the more stable frame rates, faster load times, and far lower power use.
@@nitehawk-cg6jb Thats great! I just get the impression that all these jackals going "sHiT cONsOle" make it bad, it's obviously not. What do you think?
I have never played a Halo campaign as slow as I am this one. I'm so freaking busy looking around all the beautiful shit for so long that I forget to play. I'm not complaining though
I was hoping for alittle more from The Series S for this release.. 😔
It's not the consoles fault imo its 343 they have not really focussed on the Series S too much. Other first party games have had higher resolutions and framerate. Halo should have been the same.
I knew it was a good idea to keep my old Xbox one x. Can't wait to play this in performance mode
It's no surprise It runs well on the X, they've been developing this game for that hardware for 6 years. I imagine the Series S will get a patch to bring the res up to 1440 in the future, the console is certainly capable of it.
I hope so. Seems series s owners got screwed. They also took away 120hz on series s at the last second. Prob because Microsoft wants people tk buy the x
No. It has worst memory bandwidth
So am sure it will be 1080p 60fps
You know when people are looking to say goodbye and each person keeps responding to the other? What if there were a greeting version?
Hello infinite!
What the hell are people smoking in these comments saying the Xbox One version is acceptable when Sony can push 30fps open world games like Ghost of Tsushima or Horizon that look and run way better on base PS4 than Halo Infinite on the XOne. This is a poor showing for the biggest AAA game for Xbox. Also the load times on Series consoles is still waaay too slow, when you compare the open world loading of something like Spider Man or Ghost of Tsushima on PS5 that reaches sub 2 seconds load times, i don't know, people are being way too forgiving imo.
@Transistor Jump Yeah i know, but even compared to other open world 3rd party games like FC4 or FC5, RDR2, Metro Exodus or even Rage 2 it does not look that good.
i felt old when you said *Vintage 2013 hardware* ... 🥺
This video was really well done and gave excellent comparisons! I just upgraded to an ASUS Vg32VQ monitor, currently still on OG Xbox one. Was able to order a Series X today from Walmart at MSRP (finally), and super stoked to see the performance upgrade first hand soon!
When Richard said "trill" did anyone else's mind inadvertently fire out the word "Dax"?
Tom.
X1X is still a beast! These new consoles will have some serious legs. Great job 343
Xbox One X is still a beast ! Impressive showing for the One X !
Looks like I'll be playing this on my Xbox One seeing as how I get 20 fps with a 1700x and a 390! Thanks guys!
R9 390? It should be getting a little more than 20 fps
@@DeathPerMinute AMD stopped driver updates on 390 cards, so GPU utilization ends up only being like 15% on newer games
@@fabianhernandez1734 ah well that explains it, I seen a couple vids of people installing modded drivers to increase performance
@@DeathPerMinute Yeah the NimeZ drivers. Tech Yes City did a video about it recently.
you need to use dynamic res thing on. it should be on pc. deost metter what pc.
Good work Thomas as usual.
I don't get how the resolution can be so much higher on the 1X compared to the SS in quality mode.
In it's current state what's even the point of the quality mode on Series S if they are both 1080p. Something really not right here. I hope they have a resolution patch very soon to 1440p 60fps on performance mode.
@@AscensionINC-zi1jz Might be bc of the future RT patch for SS and SX, not sure, the review code had SS running in Quality at 60fps(almost perfect) and Performance at 120FPS(not so well).
As simple as 6TF vs 4TF.
I'm sure its nerfed on purpose. We all have seen that its capable of 120fps.
Yes the triple crown! I was stoked to hear Tom pop on for this video.
Good job considering cross-gen compromises.
*The absolute baseline complexity/AI/physics/world simulation MUST function the same on prior generation Xbox One devices*
In other words, that baseline must adhere to the sketchy limitations of the old, fragile Jaguar CPU.
The same will be said for a big upcoming Sony first-party exclusive like Horizon Forbidden West. Looks great like Halo Infinite, but ultimately it's shackled to a baseline complexity limit that must function on the PS4/Pro.
The next Halo game and the next Horizon game after these final cross-gen installments will be set free from the constraints of the Jaguar CPU, shift to a Series and PS5 min spec, and they'll enjoy a significant increase to baseline complexity/world sim/AI.
These developers can't wait to leave those previous generation limitations behind and move up to a stronger baseline spec/SKU.
2022-23 the end of the cross-gen transition.
AI? 😆😆😆😆🤦🤦
@@muchacamara Do you think core AI/world sim/scene preparation/actor & draw calls in modern game engines is GPU driven?
Edit: Or was that just a general commentary on the average AI behavior/complexity range seen in today's AAA game design...
@@griffgames9538 😆😆😆😆 The AI is so bad. They just stand there. 🤦🤦🤦
@@muchacamara Ah, I hear ya. That's an opinion shared by others.
Let's not pretend as if hardware defines everything in the modern era of games. This is a great physics sandbox game with smart AI yet can run at 60 fps on Xbox One X jaguar CPU meanwhile Cyperpunk 2077 was developed with high end PCs as the lead platform yet has worse AI than PS2 GTA games and worse physics than PS3 GTA games and barely runs at 30 fps on last gen. If you think games will be suddenly much better in these areas when developers move to next-gen you will be disappointed.
The game was built with X1 as the base hardware specs. It shouldn't be a surprise it runs well and looks solid on X1. The entire game was just scaled up for XSX from that. Horizon will be similar on PS4/5.
It's not an achievement that X1 looks similar and runs well when the base hardware specs you're building off of is X1. All they did was add what they could on top of the X1 base to improve the looks for XSX. Again, Sony/GG is doing the same thing for Horizon 2.
Can't wait until the new consoles are available and then the old gen can get left behind.
Forza Horizon 5 also.
The Xbox One X version is graphically the same with the performance mode on XSX, (except of course the framerate) and quality mode just has some more things.
Time to move on and leave lastgen consoles behind.
What good are the graphics on the base xb1 if it runs at 15fps. Anybody on base xb1 should play thru Xcloud. Game is unplayable on a 1S
Been playing on a regular Xbox One (not an X) and yeah its not perfect, but it feels good overall. Especially since the Xbone is old hardware at this point. Pretty impressive.
What i noticed when starting up the campaign on a series X was that the first cut scenes graphics resolution was very low when you actually start playing the quality goes noticably up.