Everyone laments that Yahtzee didn't finish the Fantabulous Wonderment sequel or Cell, but I'd also liked to have seen Broken Boughs. In spite of the edgy elements, BB has an interesting premise. The mystery in it was intriguing and made me want to know more. I like the melancholy atmosphere it had. The protagonist guy's haircut is kind of dumb, but I like how sad and tired his expression in the bottom lefthand corner is. It perfectly conveys that he's deeply troubled without spelling it out through exposition.
It's intriguing how much Yahtzee depends on Gabe to bounce ideas and jokes off of, despite belittling him constantly. That awkward silence was testimony to that.
Yahtzee said he really wanted to see which of his 12 games in 12 months project people liked the most, but I feel like something similar could be done with the ones here. Some of these really are good enough to be given a second go, even if built from the ground up.
My theory on Cell. Perhaps the protagonist is the warden. My reasoning being that after a quick google search, 'Bestuurder' means 'Director'. So connecting the dots leads to the idea that he's the one controlling everything here. Also, I'm assuming the flashback about the bunk bed was about him having problems as a child, perhaps. Plus the guy he fought at the end seemed to think he killed someone he didn't remember, so I'm thinking perhaps that someone was himself. He was told throughout that death was too good for him, so I'm thinking this is his Silent Hill-esque punishment for what he has done
I wonder if maybe he was on his phone while driving, and the broken man is one of his friends who died in a crash. Norris "got in his way", because he was driving the other car.
6 years ago but man, the tone is amazing. I love that kinda british hitchhikers guide style sci-fi. I love the style of people just accepting the most silly timey wimey things. Like Dan Gordon just accepting he’s a red shirt etc
"This game is partially an expression of my relationship with my own family." Aren't like, ALL of your games partially expressions of your relationship with your own family, Yahtz? Just look at all the people with daddy issues and anxiety disorders!
Cell looks like a really neat concept. Hope Yahtzee picks it up again in the future. With a better engine and actual sound, this could be a great horror game.
Yahtzee, I really think you need to revisit the concept of Phone/Cell (Cell is definitely the better name). I don't care what engine you use, that was a neat idea and I'd gladly pay to see it fully realised. I think you have it in you to make some decent horror games on Steam/GOG etc. And considering the shite we see small devs trot out and call horror on JIm Sterling's channel, I think your concepts would do really well and catch some attention. Listen to Gabe....Cell is worth revisiting.
*Yahtzee's playing the first game* "Come on Gabe, try saying something" *Gabe asks about Broken Boughs* "Why are you asking about stuff you're going to find out in a minute?" It's kind of like Yahtzee expects everyone to be on his personal wavelength at all times, and know instinctively when he wants some conversation.
+Paul Dennett You're not getting what he meant. He wants Gabe to ask about the dev process, or inspirations, or make comments about the scenery. Talking during text dialogue and asking questions that will literally be answered in 5 seconds are different.
Thesadsamuraii Yes, it’s called “personal growth”, so a truthful statement at one point may no longer apply at a later time. ...meanwhile, Gabriel earned his teaching certification but had a nervous breakdown and now crashes at a mate’s place where they make videos. Oh well. Source: r/letsdrownout
@@lehelisbored It's mostly scripted, let's be real, and even if it isn't, he can just do another take if he didn't feel that he mentioned everything he wanted to mention
Personally I’d like to see a second Odysseus Kent but only because it’s been ten years since the last monkey island game and a Lucasarts wannabe by Yahtzee is starting to look good after my disappointment with the last kings quest and leisure suit Larry games.
@@changvasejarik62 I agree. I'd pay for O. Kent 2 but I wouldn't be that excited only mildly.... like most people , Phone/Cell got my maximum interest as I watched.
Even with the short amount of 'phone' that we got to see, I was immediately grabbed by it! I find the premise to be extremely interesting and would've loved to see it finished. The fight with The Broken Man was beautifully done and I loved the design of The Broken Man himself.
Yahtzee definitely seems like he would be Better In charge of a project and having a team working under him. Not saying his stuff is bad by any means, but if he could like say for Odysseus Kent one, lay out the basics then hand it off, it could have gotten done. I just think Yahtzee could be so much better with another pair of hands to deal with the workload.
Really enjoying the Dark Souls playthrough, but man it's great to have something different for once. Keep being my favourite homosexuals on the internet.
We can own air weapons in the UK without license if they are under certain power levels. Anything over these power levels, or requiring live ammunition, has lots of hurdles to overcome. Like police involvement, getting a license, cost, police involvement. Essentially making it so that unless you need it for a specific reason (sport and hunting) the hassle far outweighs the time and effort. Even with the air weapons we can have without license there is a load of restrictions. One been that I can't just go to a field and use a gun. I have to have permission to use one on private land. Or in a designated area, like a shooting range or my own garden. Even then if someone complains it could be a visit by the police in the future. And if you do use it anywhere without permission, or in a publicly accessible area, it's essentially prison.
+Alex Shannon he made a point of saying that he couldn't because he stole a lot of assets to make them, and so couldn't sell them; when the discussion of paid mods came about after the steam skyrim mods debacle
***** The point of an "HD Collection" is that you redo the graphics in HD. In this case it would involve remaking the assets so they don't look like shit. Or are stolen.
We can own air weapons without license if they are under certain power levels. Which vary between rifles and pistols. Anything above these power level caps require police involvement, money, upkeep, more police involvement. It essentially means the hassle far outweighs the viability unless you do it for a specific reason (sport and hunting). Also there are a ton of restrictions on what we can do with air weapons even when they don't requires licenses. We can only use them in designated areas and even then if someone complains it means police involvement.
you know recently got the audio book version of Mogworld, it is interesting to hear Yahtzee give the characters' their own respective voices, now I can see how he sees Thaddeus, it would be interesting to see an adventure game set in the Mogworld Universe or a survival game in the Jam universe.
Broken Boughs could still be something good, but I really hope that Yathzee will finish "Phone/Cell." This could be his best game and his best story so far. A story about a bad man reliving his worst sins and now he's in hell (maybe?) and torturing himself and his former friends. And the phone is a good subtitute for an inventory without sacrificing the depths for puzzles. Yathzee could've the idea for the game of the year, a tru indie jewel. So thumps up, even after almost two years.
You should randomly stick all your incomplete games together, tie it together with random exposition and release it as a game about games. Oh wait that's already been done.
+The Paul Fallon Show "Hi, I'm the guy who developed that game that pretty consistently lied to you. I'm making a game of my own and I am not lying to you. Honest. Is it odd I'd bring that up? Nah. ONWARDS!"
If someone were to give you an absurd amount of money on the condition that you had to hire a team and make a professional-grade game, Who would you hire and what would you make?
Nitro_Wolf yeah honestly when the guard got pulled away I was immediately thinking "finish this Yahtzee, surely if I will it hard enough this can come to fruition one day and I can shower you in money"
Yahtzee's wrist exerciser at 16:49 sounds almost exactly like the Broken Man's walking sound at 1:35:20. But the walking sound might also be someone stirring tea with a teaspoon. I've always found that sound effect a bit weird for walking.
Seriously, Yahtzee, if the whole making art aspect of development is what most frequently kills your motivation to make games, why don't you hire an external artist to do it? Some of your concepts looks extremely interesting (Phone/Cell especially), and it is a shame that some of them go to waste because you burn out on making the graphics yourself. It would also be a chance to pad out your game credits. I think you often point how they are mostly just your name.
Haven't finished watching yet, but Phone looks amazing. Really interesting concepts. The Warden's phone number being 616 was a neat touch. I thought for a few minutes the twist was going to be "Besturder IS the Warden :O" until I realised that the prisoner uniform read 618 and not 616. I figure the numbers carry some significance though.
+JammyD2579 The character's name does mean "warden" apparently, so I think you hit the nail on the head there. Bestuurder doesn't really have a conscience so he has to rely on his perverted subconscious to punish him for the things he's done.
Phone seems like a really cool game. It's definitely better than 90% of the things found on greenlight and probably has more content than many recent indie releases. Good job Yahtzee! Thanks for showing us these.
Totally understand why Yahtzee doesn't want to go back to old projects, but he should definitely think about remaking Phone (and absolutely calling it "Cell"). Would absolutely buy that.
24:05 - You don't buy an insurance premium. You buy an insurance policy. The premium is the payment due to acquire said policy. Source: I sell insurance. Yes, really. And, yes, I enjoyed the suicidal insurance agent character.
Bestuurder, among other things, means warden, which also explains why the only palindrome phone number is the Warden's. The warden coincides with its opposite, which would be the prisoner.
I'm not usually a big fan of Yahtzee's product. For all that he loves to make spooky horror games, he rarely manages to conjure up much of an atmosphere -- it's always let down by shoddy art and awkward dialogue. But every so often his games come out with something genuinely startling and effective that makes me think if he really put his all into it he could do something great. Cell/Phone might be that thing. It's got a real feel of menace and some surprising moments, and the spell-casting phone is an awesome mechanic. It's a shame he gave up on it because it took too much effort, because that effort is the exact thing that could make it great. Yahtzee, remake this in something less shitty and it's the first thing of yours I might actually spend money on. And I don't even like adventure games.
Cell is the kind of game I would pay money for. I mean honestly just in that demo it's pretty much the kind of thing that looks like a peak for what he could have done with AGS, and it's a right shame he didn't do anything more with it.
+Andy B I had a feeling from the beginning that they might not make it to the end of DS2. I may be wrong. They might eventually beat it all, but I honestly don't think they will. I think it's just about run its course. I also think they picked the wrong game to try and "drown out" all the way through. It's just too long.
Bestuurder, Dutch for: driver, director, manager, pilot, administrator, governor, ruler, chauffeur, head, conductor, guide, and last but not least, *warden.* Now I want to know the twist
It's prolly already been said, but "Bestuurder" can mean "Driver" but it can also designate a person in charge or running an organization, like a chairman, president, head administrator. Things like that. To be a "bestuurder" is to be in control or running something.
you already wrote about sentient characters in a video game, how about you try your hand at short story about sentient characters in an abandoned build
The Dan Gordon game would have some potential as a strategy / adventure game. Not just being able to work the factions, but could also add the option of missions expanding their territories, or just plain work the factions against each other. All the games looked like they had plenty of potential at least.
That's what Silent Hill is all about - monsters formed from your own strong emotions, like guilt, lust and hatred. The warden is probably punishing him for the guilt he feels, despite pretending to be a psychopath.
Haven't gotten past the intro banter yet. But mentioning things ending abruptly, it can't be any worse than The Box That Ate Time ending suddenly. Though.... that at least had a lot going on before it was just ended. Also... Getting my Blue Cup out for this. Cheers!
The last game "Phone" is actually pretty cool, and i think it's the best looking game by yahtzee i've seen. Would you consider making a spiritual succesor of it?
I still think Adventures in the Galaxy of Fantabulous Wonderment is worth remaking in Game Maker, with interface improvements and possibly some other changes. After that, you can think about a sequel.
I think it's kind of amusing that both in this one and the playthrough of the original Odysseus Kent game, Yahtzee completely forgot that the priest specifically said he didn't have any children because "hippos scare the bejeezus" out of him. So the priest didn't know he had a kid, which makes the daughter getting revenge strange, because she probably wouldn't have known who her dad was. Unless that was the twist, that the daughter had finally found out who her dad was, and was going to confront him, but was too late, and therefore was mad at Odysseus because of daddy issues. Which would also fit the seeming theme of crappy father figures throughout Yahtzees games.
Cell seems really cool, I'm genuinely pretty intrigued (though given what Bestuurder means and the Silent Hill 2 vibe I think I can guess what the twist is). Was wondering whether Yahtzee is planning any future adventure games using slightly different mechanics? A while ago on one of the drown outs you mentioned maybe thinking an LA Noire type detective game involving deduction/interrogation puzzles (presumably without all the silly runaround drivearound shooty bollocks). Don't know if that was a throwaway comment but I love anything like that (closest I can think of is Dave Gilbert's Blackwell stuff) and would be really interested in a proper detective game.
I really hope one day yahtzee decides to continue phone/cell. from the work he had already done, it looks incredible. I'd totally buy it. hopefully he remakes it in a better engine. but then again, laziness xP
Maybe the Daniel Gordon that reversed the final equation didn't actually do that and is actually drawing all of the Daniel Gordons to the same universe, while the Extranoids are converting the now Gordonless universes
Definitely an interesting look at the stuff that never got done from Yahtzee. Have to say, some of this is absolutely awesome. Personally, I don't know if I want to see anything finished, per se; Phone/Cell would be the closest to a "finish it" I want, and even then I'd prefer Yahtzee to take a fresh look after the experience of having published two novels and The Consuming Shadow and see how the plot could be improved. I'd also love a sequel of some sort to GFW, simply because as 2-dimensional as the characters were written, I still loved them and enjoyed the heck out of that game. I say all that knowing it's likely never to happen, but still...
Man, the dissapointment of Silent Hills cancellation ain't got nothing on the level of dissapointment after seeing Phone.
"Hey, Gabe, come over to my house and watch me play video games while I henpeck you."
"Ok."
Your not Kink shaming are you?
😂
"...H.P. Lovecraft and red dwarf"
and daddy issues. every character has daddy issues.
got rgrTr😀😀R
Everyone laments that Yahtzee didn't finish the Fantabulous Wonderment sequel or Cell, but I'd also liked to have seen Broken Boughs. In spite of the edgy elements, BB has an interesting premise. The mystery in it was intriguing and made me want to know more. I like the melancholy atmosphere it had. The protagonist guy's haircut is kind of dumb, but I like how sad and tired his expression in the bottom lefthand corner is. It perfectly conveys that he's deeply troubled without spelling it out through exposition.
Yeah, the interface made me somewhat think of World of Horror which is a cool current title that's inspired by Junji Ito.
It's intriguing how much Yahtzee depends on Gabe to bounce ideas and jokes off of, despite belittling him constantly. That awkward silence was testimony to that.
5:20 Any minute, Jack Frehorn is going to enter and shoot Kent from behind.
Yahtzee said he really wanted to see which of his 12 games in 12 months project people liked the most, but I feel like something similar could be done with the ones here.
Some of these really are good enough to be given a second go, even if built from the ground up.
The art in Broken Boughs is actually pretty good.
My theory on Cell.
Perhaps the protagonist is the warden. My reasoning being that after a quick google search, 'Bestuurder' means 'Director'. So connecting the dots leads to the idea that he's the one controlling everything here. Also, I'm assuming the flashback about the bunk bed was about him having problems as a child, perhaps. Plus the guy he fought at the end seemed to think he killed someone he didn't remember, so I'm thinking perhaps that someone was himself. He was told throughout that death was too good for him, so I'm thinking this is his Silent Hill-esque punishment for what he has done
+mrROFLstudios It's also worth remembering that the Warden's phone number is 619, the same as Besturder's prisoner number.
I wonder if maybe he was on his phone while driving, and the broken man is one of his friends who died in a crash. Norris "got in his way", because he was driving the other car.
His prisoner number is 618. And the warden's number is 616.
Everything is Fight Club
I know this is an old comment, but I'd just like to add that the most relevant translation of "bestuurder" is "warden".
I honestly wish Yahtzee finished the dimension of insidulous creulitude, because it actually looked pretty promising.
6 years ago but man, the tone is amazing. I love that kinda british hitchhikers guide style sci-fi. I love the style of people just accepting the most silly timey wimey things. Like Dan Gordon just accepting he’s a red shirt etc
"This game is partially an expression of my relationship with my own family." Aren't like, ALL of your games partially expressions of your relationship with your own family, Yahtz? Just look at all the people with daddy issues and anxiety disorders!
Cell looks like a really neat concept. Hope Yahtzee picks it up again in the future. With a better engine and actual sound, this could be a great horror game.
Yahtzee, I really think you need to revisit the concept of Phone/Cell (Cell is definitely the better name). I don't care what engine you use, that was a neat idea and I'd gladly pay to see it fully realised.
I think you have it in you to make some decent horror games on Steam/GOG etc. And considering the shite we see small devs trot out and call horror on JIm Sterling's channel, I think your concepts would do really well and catch some attention.
Listen to Gabe....Cell is worth revisiting.
I'm curious is Yahtzee would sue if someone else made "Modern Technology Loom in a Prison"
*Yahtzee's playing the first game*
"Come on Gabe, try saying something"
*Gabe asks about Broken Boughs*
"Why are you asking about stuff you're going to find out in a minute?"
It's kind of like Yahtzee expects everyone to be on his personal wavelength at all times, and know instinctively when he wants some conversation.
+Paul Dennett So how 'bout that broken TV that can't display Resistance properly, eh?
+Paul Dennett Yeah, Yahtzee is kind of a dumbass, at least compared to how smart he thinks he is.
+Paul Dennett You're not getting what he meant. He wants Gabe to ask about the dev process, or inspirations, or make comments about the scenery. Talking during text dialogue and asking questions that will literally be answered in 5 seconds are different.
+Paul Dennett He sounds like the Girl in the relationship...
I'm going now...
+Hurbs Buckooglberb If he ever changes I'll cut myself.
Cell is super interesting. I'm definitely curious to see what the other central prisoners look like.
Phone looks damn interesting, pity it was never completed.
I think it's cute that yahtzee can't commentate without gabe
Ben Hart 3 years later and Yahtzee has made dev diary and proved this idea wrong
Thesadsamuraii Yes, it’s called “personal growth”, so a truthful statement at one point may no longer apply at a later time.
...meanwhile, Gabriel earned his teaching certification but had a nervous breakdown and now crashes at a mate’s place where they make videos. Oh well.
Source: r/letsdrownout
Wait whats this about gabe having a Breakdown? Any source of this?
@@schlattdid9861 Yeah, but Dev Diary is at least partially scripted, like ZP. The fun part about these videos is that they're totally on the fly.
@@lehelisbored It's mostly scripted, let's be real, and even if it isn't, he can just do another take if he didn't feel that he mentioned everything he wanted to mention
I'd love to see some of the ideas from Cell repurposed for a new game, it looked to be the most promising.
the sequal to fantabulous wonderment looked pretty friggen awesome. shame it wont get finished.
Cell actually looked worth finishing.
With the possible exception of the second Odysseus Kent, they all look worth finishing to me :)
Personally I’d like to see a second Odysseus Kent but only because it’s been ten years since the last monkey island game and a Lucasarts wannabe by Yahtzee is starting to look good after my disappointment with the last kings quest and leisure suit Larry games.
@@changvasejarik62 I agree. I'd pay for O. Kent 2 but I wouldn't be that excited only mildly.... like most people , Phone/Cell got my maximum interest as I watched.
Cell would actually be pretty neat on a touch device where you need to actually press the phone buttons.
@@ArkhanNightman ahhh stop making this idea which will never be completed sound cool!!
Sunday Nights with Uncle Yahtzee and Aunt Gabe.
Holy crap, Phone looks amazing, the trapped in the tube moment had my heart pounding!!
Even with the short amount of 'phone' that we got to see, I was immediately grabbed by it! I find the premise to be extremely interesting and would've loved to see it finished. The fight with The Broken Man was beautifully done and I loved the design of The Broken Man himself.
Yahtzee definitely seems like he would be Better In charge of a project and having a team working under him. Not saying his stuff is bad by any means, but if he could like say for Odysseus Kent one, lay out the basics then hand it off, it could have gotten done. I just think Yahtzee could be so much better with another pair of hands to deal with the workload.
Really enjoying the Dark Souls playthrough, but man it's great to have something different for once.
Keep being my favourite homosexuals on the internet.
JoeRingo118
Are you implying they are gay? How rude!
JoeRingo118
Well, that's gay.
+Marblez3 They aren't homosexuals. They are heterosexual life partners.
Foxambereyes
Totally manly and platonic bromance.
Buttsex is just for tension relief.
+Foxambereyes You're a troper.
We can own air weapons in the UK without license if they are under certain power levels. Anything over these power levels, or requiring live ammunition, has lots of hurdles to overcome. Like police involvement, getting a license, cost, police involvement. Essentially making it so that unless you need it for a specific reason (sport and hunting) the hassle far outweighs the time and effort. Even with the air weapons we can have without license there is a load of restrictions. One been that I can't just go to a field and use a gun. I have to have permission to use one on private land. Or in a designated area, like a shooting range or my own garden. Even then if someone complains it could be a visit by the police in the future. And if you do use it anywhere without permission, or in a publicly accessible area, it's essentially prison.
dutch reference, that always warms our tiny nations little hearth.
Yahtzee needs to make a "Yahtzee Games HD Collection" and put it out on Steam.
If it came with developers commentary, I'd totally buy that.
+Baradragon107 The special editions all have a commentary, go download them.
+Alex Shannon he made a point of saying that he couldn't because he stole a lot of assets to make them, and so couldn't sell them; when the discussion of paid mods came about after the steam skyrim mods debacle
***** The point of an "HD Collection" is that you redo the graphics in HD. In this case it would involve remaking the assets so they don't look like shit. Or are stolen.
That might end up being a lot of work but he'd make his money back.
Working Through My Edgelord Youth Through Game Design: The Yahtzee Croshaw Story.
(I say this but I totally sympathize)
dislike for capitalizing every word
Dislike for not capitalising your first word and lacking a full stop at the end.
"I know you're done. I heard you flush!" That type of one-sided banter is on the level of Bob Newhart.
We can own air weapons without license if they are under certain power levels. Which vary between rifles and pistols. Anything above these power level caps require police involvement, money, upkeep, more police involvement. It essentially means the hassle far outweighs the viability unless you do it for a specific reason (sport and hunting). Also there are a ton of restrictions on what we can do with air weapons even when they don't requires licenses. We can only use them in designated areas and even then if someone complains it means police involvement.
Credit where credit is due. Its gutsy of Yahtzee to show unfinished work like this. Cheers mate
you know recently got the audio book version of Mogworld, it is interesting to hear Yahtzee give the characters' their own respective voices, now I can see how he sees Thaddeus, it would be interesting to see an adventure game set in the Mogworld Universe or a survival game in the Jam universe.
If he does make Cell into a full game, I SO want the ringtone to be a muffled or midi version of 'I want to break free'
I know you're done I heard you flush!
wow Gabe's story about the sarcastic girl fell flat.
Broken Boughs could still be something good, but I really hope that Yathzee will finish "Phone/Cell." This could be his best game and his best story so far. A story about a bad man reliving his worst sins and now he's in hell (maybe?) and torturing himself and his former friends. And the phone is a good subtitute for an inventory without sacrificing the depths for puzzles. Yathzee could've the idea for the game of the year, a tru indie jewel.
So thumps up, even after almost two years.
You should randomly stick all your incomplete games together, tie it together with random exposition and release it as a game about games. Oh wait that's already been done.
+Joseph Dipalo Just a guess, The Beginner's Guide aka Pretentious: The Videogame?
+Quiltfish I would say the return of Matt hazard tbh
+Quiltfish Yo that game was cool. I don't see why everyone says its pretentious.
+Thanatos388 Because walking simulators, no matter how well made, are automatically pretentious in the eyes of the Internet.
+The Paul Fallon Show "Hi, I'm the guy who developed that game that pretty consistently lied to you. I'm making a game of my own and I am not lying to you. Honest. Is it odd I'd bring that up? Nah. ONWARDS!"
14:15 Surely, Burt Kokain would be a better choice.
Goddam Yahtzee, Phone/Cell looks really, really awesome. Please go back to it, I'd love to play it!
If someone were to give you an absurd amount of money on the condition that you had to hire a team and make a professional-grade game, Who would you hire and what would you make?
"p12v10" Yet more reference to the ever elusive Poseidon 12.
Not only is Phone quite a cool game prototype, but the first encounter with the Broken Man scared the shit out of me
Nitro_Wolf yeah honestly when the guard got pulled away I was immediately thinking "finish this Yahtzee, surely if I will it hard enough this can come to fruition one day and I can shower you in money"
Yahtzee's wrist exerciser at 16:49 sounds almost exactly like the Broken Man's walking sound at 1:35:20. But the walking sound might also be someone stirring tea with a teaspoon. I've always found that sound effect a bit weird for walking.
Wow, that's..... an impressive catch.
Sasuga random internet guy.
Yahtzee, your videos are perfect for road trips. Thank you for making my trip that much more bearable.
Seriously, Yahtzee, if the whole making art aspect of development is what most frequently kills your motivation to make games, why don't you hire an external artist to do it? Some of your concepts looks extremely interesting (Phone/Cell especially), and it is a shame that some of them go to waste because you burn out on making the graphics yourself.
It would also be a chance to pad out your game credits. I think you often point how they are mostly just your name.
Haven't finished watching yet, but Phone looks amazing. Really interesting concepts.
The Warden's phone number being 616 was a neat touch. I thought for a few minutes the twist was going to be "Besturder IS the Warden :O" until I realised that the prisoner uniform read 618 and not 616.
I figure the numbers carry some significance though.
+JammyD2579 616 is the original number of the beast before bastardized translations made it 666.
I'm aware of the significance of the number of the beast.
Ah, didn't seem like it :P at least other people know now too lol
+JammyD2579 The character's name does mean "warden" apparently, so I think you hit the nail on the head there. Bestuurder doesn't really have a conscience so he has to rely on his perverted subconscious to punish him for the things he's done.
+JammyD2579 I found it more curious how you can't reverse 616, you would get the same number.
1:51:29 I love Gabe's little one-liner for the tiny guards. Cracks me up every time I hear it.
My favorite part of Mogworld was when he got the Octopus eyes and everybody he saw started to talk but then noticed his eyes and started throwing up.
I thought he was saying Broken Bowels
That would be much more horrific.
Phone seems like a really cool game. It's definitely better than 90% of the things found on greenlight and probably has more content than many recent indie releases. Good job Yahtzee! Thanks for showing us these.
Totally understand why Yahtzee doesn't want to go back to old projects, but he should definitely think about remaking Phone (and absolutely calling it "Cell"). Would absolutely buy that.
I just bought Dark Souls SotFS on steam because of you two!
Hah, Even yahtzee uses a oldgames folder! I'm not the only one!!
24:05 - You don't buy an insurance premium. You buy an insurance policy. The premium is the payment due to acquire said policy.
Source: I sell insurance. Yes, really. And, yes, I enjoyed the suicidal insurance agent character.
Ah sell insuuranz and insuuranz accessories.
Note; the warden's extension is 616. The actual 'number of the beast'.
Bestuurder, among other things, means warden, which also explains why the only palindrome phone number is the Warden's.
The warden coincides with its opposite, which would be the prisoner.
I'm not usually a big fan of Yahtzee's product. For all that he loves to make spooky horror games, he rarely manages to conjure up much of an atmosphere -- it's always let down by shoddy art and awkward dialogue. But every so often his games come out with something genuinely startling and effective that makes me think if he really put his all into it he could do something great. Cell/Phone might be that thing. It's got a real feel of menace and some surprising moments, and the spell-casting phone is an awesome mechanic. It's a shame he gave up on it because it took too much effort, because that effort is the exact thing that could make it great. Yahtzee, remake this in something less shitty and it's the first thing of yours I might actually spend money on. And I don't even like adventure games.
Cell is the kind of game I would pay money for. I mean honestly just in that demo it's pretty much the kind of thing that looks like a peak for what he could have done with AGS, and it's a right shame he didn't do anything more with it.
I knew they were getting bored of Dark Souls 2.
+drew081886 Glad it wasn't just me then.
+drew081886 Don't think they were but the subreddit slated them for that series and I really enjoy it :(
+Jamie Connor did the subreddit really hate it? I liked the series a lot. They aren't going to quit are they?
+lars330 I doubt it but it might slow down I think the reason they scrapped the douglas stories was the subreddits response as well
+Andy B I had a feeling from the beginning that they might not make it to the end of DS2. I may be wrong. They might eventually beat it all, but I honestly don't think they will. I think it's just about run its course. I also think they picked the wrong game to try and "drown out" all the way through. It's just too long.
Bestuurder, Dutch for:
driver,
director,
manager,
pilot,
administrator,
governor,
ruler,
chauffeur,
head,
conductor,
guide,
and last but not least, *warden.*
Now I want to know the twist
Your description tells me to not get too intrigued.... but I am. Very much so.
Phone looks fascinating! I'd play the hell out of it.
Broken Boughs had a really nice art style, but I can understand why it was a pain for one guy to do on his own.
Why did you not ask how big the empire is?! NOW WE'LL NEVER KNOW!Also, Phone looks great.
It's prolly already been said, but "Bestuurder" can mean "Driver" but it can also designate a person in charge or running an organization, like a chairman, president, head administrator. Things like that.
To be a "bestuurder" is to be in control or running something.
I would really like to see Insidulous Cruelitude and Cell finished.
Honestly I would have loved Cell to be finished, that final bit was fucking great.
37:30 AND The Homoerotic Themes of his earlier works.
On reviewing this, Rick & Morty's Interdimensional Council of Ricks is basically the Dangordonites from Dimension of Insidulous Cruelitude.
Welcome to *Broken Bowels*
retirement home... Oh, wait...
Really great artstyle, though!
ol yatzhees had a an extra cup of pissy coffee this morning
Broken Boughs actually seems promising.
you already wrote about sentient characters in a video game,
how about you try your hand at short story about sentient characters in an abandoned build
5 years too late, but that's rife for existential horror. Possibly Lovecraftian? The idea of an unfeeling creator who abandons a project on a whim.
14:32 Coming up on that 10 years now. Almost tempted to send this to Gabe vis Keepetclassy....
The Dan Gordon game would have some potential as a strategy / adventure game. Not just being able to work the factions, but could also add the option of missions expanding their territories, or just plain work the factions against each other.
All the games looked like they had plenty of potential at least.
I actually just watched the episode of Drown Out last night in where you mentioned doing this exact video. What a coincidence.
Cell reminds me a bit of The Cat Lady - both in atmosphere and artstyle.
"Bestuurder" means "Director," "Ruler" or "Warden."
Is the twist that you are the warden or some shit?
or it means driver, just to fuck things up
That's what Silent Hill is all about - monsters formed from your own strong emotions, like guilt, lust and hatred. The warden is probably punishing him for the guilt he feels, despite pretending to be a psychopath.
In this scenario I think "controller" is a better translation. bestuur is a very flexible word in dutch (source: im dutch)
Yeah, It's either that, or that "Nate" is the warden. One of the two. Probably.
Haven't gotten past the intro banter yet. But mentioning things ending abruptly, it can't be any worse than The Box That Ate Time ending suddenly. Though.... that at least had a lot going on before it was just ended.
Also... Getting my Blue Cup out for this. Cheers!
The last game "Phone" is actually pretty cool, and i think it's the best looking game by yahtzee i've seen.
Would you consider making a spiritual succesor of it?
I still think Adventures in the Galaxy of Fantabulous Wonderment is worth remaking in Game Maker, with interface improvements and possibly some other changes. After that, you can think about a sequel.
Wally made a suit out of cubicle fabric, but made a tie instead of a mask.
I was never able to experience these as they were released, but I wish I did.
I think it's kind of amusing that both in this one and the playthrough of the original Odysseus Kent game, Yahtzee completely forgot that the priest specifically said he didn't have any children because "hippos scare the bejeezus" out of him. So the priest didn't know he had a kid, which makes the daughter getting revenge strange, because she probably wouldn't have known who her dad was.
Unless that was the twist, that the daughter had finally found out who her dad was, and was going to confront him, but was too late, and therefore was mad at Odysseus because of daddy issues. Which would also fit the seeming theme of crappy father figures throughout Yahtzees games.
That "Cthnk" noise that happens during Broken Boughs makes it feel like my sinuses are popping.
Cell seems really cool, I'm genuinely pretty intrigued (though given what Bestuurder means and the Silent Hill 2 vibe I think I can guess what the twist is). Was wondering whether Yahtzee is planning any future adventure games using slightly different mechanics?
A while ago on one of the drown outs you mentioned maybe thinking an LA Noire type detective game involving deduction/interrogation puzzles (presumably without all the silly runaround drivearound shooty bollocks). Don't know if that was a throwaway comment but I love anything like that (closest I can think of is Dave Gilbert's Blackwell stuff) and would be really interested in a proper detective game.
That Cell/Phone game is so promessing....some really nice ideas there. I buy it XD
Well C1tikal donates all his proceeds to charity
"that dump had your eyes" 👀 💩
couldn't you pickup the vase and fill it up with the flow number? and then pour it on the wire?
Ooh, you should finish that !! *[Phone/Cell]*
I really hope one day yahtzee decides to continue phone/cell. from the work he had already done, it looks incredible. I'd totally buy it. hopefully he remakes it in a better engine. but then again, laziness xP
Phone (or Cell) looked really cool, too bad we won't be getting it but still.
Maybe the Daniel Gordon that reversed the final equation didn't actually do that and is actually drawing all of the Daniel Gordons to the same universe, while the Extranoids are converting the now Gordonless universes
I LOVE the artwork in Phone. Nice job Yahtzee!
Damn it Yahtz, I know you come back to this channel to ego surf. FINISH THESE DAMN THINGS!
Definitely an interesting look at the stuff that never got done from Yahtzee. Have to say, some of this is absolutely awesome.
Personally, I don't know if I want to see anything finished, per se; Phone/Cell would be the closest to a "finish it" I want, and even then I'd prefer Yahtzee to take a fresh look after the experience of having published two novels and The Consuming Shadow and see how the plot could be improved.
I'd also love a sequel of some sort to GFW, simply because as 2-dimensional as the characters were written, I still loved them and enjoyed the heck out of that game.
I say all that knowing it's likely never to happen, but still...
Yep, I'm joining the massive campaign for a full length version of Cell to be made
I always pictured Thaddeus looking exactly like Christopher Lee as Saruman in the LOTR films.