Why (almost) No One Runs this Game | King's Quest III Speedrun History

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  • King's Quest III remains the least explored speedrun of the main series. And there are several, very good reasons for why that is. Today, we'll discover why almost nobody runs this game, and hear the stories of the few who defied the odds. This is the history of King's Quest III speedrun world records.
    / oneshorteye
    00:00 Introduction
    01:46 BillBull, the first runner
    04:55 The Dreaded Eagle
    07:50 A Pirate's Life
    09:15 Ocean Man
    12:43 Chuck and Lumo
    16:15 Praying for RNG
    18:17 A Challenger Appears from the North
    21:29 Eight Seconds
    24:22 Smash Like if You've Been Kidnapped By an Evil Wizard
    27:10 Heart Conditions, etc.
    SantaClaus voice actor: www.fiverr.com/sandoric
    Want to learn how to speedrun this game? Join the King's Quest Speedrunning Discord: / discord
    Special thanks to BillBull, ChuckGrody, Lumophile, and SantaClaus for their time and invaluable information.
    BillBull
    / billbull
    / cleverdan33
    ChuckGrody
    / chuckgrody
    / sageowl
    Lumophile
    / lumophile
    / @lumophile
    SantaClaus
    / santaclaus586
    / polygon586
    Attribution
    The Games: Summer Challenge (1992) / Longplay PC DOS 4K
    Old Nerd Playing Old PC Games
    Video game footage used under CC BY
    • The Games: Summer Chal...
    Santa Head image
    www.freevector.com/happy-sant...
    Ocean Man Instrumental provided by Rapwned
    / rapwned
    King's Quest Redux Soundtrack used with permission from Brandon Blume
    brandonblume.com/kq3redux.htm
    Analog TV Noise Distortion pack by Michael Freudenberg - Film Masters
    / filmmasterschannel
    hdreel.com
    Snow falling Video
    James Cheney
    www.pexels.com/video/snow-fal...
    Santa's Song
    • Santa's Song
    Properly formatted English subtitles by: / destroyallhoomans
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  • @OneShortEye
    @OneShortEye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +949

    Notes and Addenda
    00:00 Here, I'm focusing on Any% runs of the main series DOS games. There are certainly King's Quest games with less activity than KQIII, like the Sega Master System version of KQI, the Infamous Adventures remake of KQIII, or the Amiga version of KQVI. Clarifying all of this seemed like too much in the first ten seconds.
    00:15 There are really six runners if you include categories besides Any%, though that activity is minimal: RetroTKS (ScummVM) and myself (unsubmitted Doge%).
    07:38 There are, in fact, some few cases where you do need to use prepositions, like "put dough on desk" during the spell casting. But, in the majority of cases, these can be omitted.
    09:00 The timer starts when you board the ship. Since runners have to grab the box, grab their inventory, and walk to the balcony, they technically aren't doing "nothing" for the full 14 minutes, but it's close enough.
    08:20 Here's an additional bit of information about the boat (which doesn't factor into any WRs), courtesy of SantaClaus: "If you waited for Manannan to leave on a journey, an additional rule applies: once you board the ship, Manannan won't appear until the seconds on the game clock show "04 (after the first "04 on the ship he can appear at any time). This makes it easy to dodge Manannan just by boarding the ship at a good time; for example, if you board the ship with the game clock at 0:10:05 you have a whopping 59 seconds to get the box, drop it in place, jump up, climb the ladder, open the chest, get back your stolen possessions and head into the safety of the stern without needing to worry about Manannan at all."
    13:50 There's also a 100% category that was routed by BillBull. To date, no one has completed a run.

    • @potterinhe11
      @potterinhe11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      'Fiver Budget ran out' wow money must be tight,

    • @_-Lx-_
      @_-Lx-_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That Fivver Santa was glorious

    • @camanando
      @camanando 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow

    • @sparklesparklesparkle6318
      @sparklesparklesparkle6318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this is sad people have free time and do this instead of dismantling white supremacy.

    • @supremechaosbeing2696
      @supremechaosbeing2696 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@sparklesparklesparkle6318 this feels highly unrelated

  • @erinnguyen4844
    @erinnguyen4844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7147

    I feel like a literal evil wizard that appears and kills you for spending longer than 8 seconds on any given screen is absolutely perfect for a speedrun game lol

    • @Wolf99555
      @Wolf99555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +576

      I think its an issue of it basically being an autoscroller at that point. It prevents an interesting things like spending 10 seconds on one screen to save 3 seconds on the next 5

    • @ahall9839
      @ahall9839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      haha literally i literally literally literally. Literally!

    • @datachunks1737
      @datachunks1737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +329

      @@ahall9839 Um, they didn’t say literally, they said literal. Once.

    • @ahall9839
      @ahall9839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@datachunks1737 Literally?

    • @MDmattix
      @MDmattix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@ahall9839 You're wrong nerd, accept it.

  • @LucarioredLR
    @LucarioredLR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3211

    7:16
    King's Quest 3 may not have the "oldest game where you can pet the dog" title but it sure does have the "oldest game where you become a catgirl/catboy" one

    • @oceanman_8370
      @oceanman_8370 2 ปีที่แล้ว +296

      Unfathomably based

    • @gremlinman9724
      @gremlinman9724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      what about zork

    • @RagnarokCo
      @RagnarokCo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      what about oldest game with jiggle physics?

    • @Infomaniac_Moment
      @Infomaniac_Moment 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hate you for saying that.

    • @herette
      @herette 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@RagnarokCo half life had jiggle physics

  • @KevTyGaming
    @KevTyGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1021

    Update: Santa managed to bring his time down to sub 19 minutes as of 2 days ago. The absolute madman.

  • @NotOnLand
    @NotOnLand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +536

    I like to imagine Santa's voice actor not knowing a thing about speedrunning and being like "RNG? Viable zips? Wtf does this even mean? Ho ho ho whatever, it's a gig!"

    • @callmechia
      @callmechia 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      This made me actually lol…. I was thinking the same thing

    • @woooooooooooooooooooooooo
      @woooooooooooooooooooooooo 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You could hear the confusion when they were talking about needing a fast Eagle at roughly 22:48

  • @acepedro12
    @acepedro12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2384

    Santa's speedrunning skills come from delivering gifts to children all over the world in just one day.

    • @EneTheGene
      @EneTheGene 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yes

    • @laurisjones
      @laurisjones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +138

      any% good list only no chimney clipping

    • @shuvelstone1331
      @shuvelstone1331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      LOL

    • @Tomix4k
      @Tomix4k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Well he DOES have 24 hours considering the planet rotation

    • @shuvelstone1331
      @shuvelstone1331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Tomix4k i never thought of that!

  • @Wolf99555
    @Wolf99555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1733

    Shout outs to Santa's voice actor, he really give it his all

    • @Roescoe
      @Roescoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +135

      Voice actor? I'm pretty sure he got a relative or Santa himself.

    • @Tomix4k
      @Tomix4k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Erh... yeah... voice actor...

    • @RudyG.Numpad
      @RudyG.Numpad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Actually god like

    • @Sorrelhas
      @Sorrelhas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +164

      Santa deniers be like "must have been a voice actor"

    • @LaurieKoudstaal
      @LaurieKoudstaal ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hear! hear!

  • @Alex-mu6sm
    @Alex-mu6sm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +977

    them: struggling to decide how to spend their 14 minutes of wait time
    twilight princess low% speedrunners: being able to do an entire day's worth of errands, eat 3 full meals, and sleep before their 24 hour wait time is up

    • @OneShortEye
      @OneShortEye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +220

      I saw a video about that run. Can't even imagine. :)

    • @monochrome3168
      @monochrome3168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      With 14 minutes you have nothing to do, you must stay close to the computer in case you lose track of time, with 24 hours you can basically do anything

    • @Woodledude
      @Woodledude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      Now what we need is for people to run that game, run THIS game in the middle of that, and then find a third game to run during the boat trip. Three overlapping speedruns.

    • @TheFremontTroll07
      @TheFremontTroll07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      There is some game where you have to wait 2 weeks for something to happen for speed running the game

    • @Woodledude
      @Woodledude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@TheFremontTroll07 You might be talking about The Longing, which yeah, would be PERFECT for this ridiculous idea. If it's not the game you're talking about, it might even be a game you could wrap AROUND the one you're talking about (yes, The Longing is that insanely... Long.)

  • @fen4554
    @fen4554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +321

    To give you an idea how we used to do it in the old days; I played Kings Quest 4 when I was about 12. I played that game for years, usually dying because the in-game 24 hour timer would run out (or night would fall without the needed items) At which point, you have to start all over again. We had a duotang FILLED with paper maps, clues, quotes, lists.. Anything to give us an edge in a time before the internet. And even with my parents help, we never finished it.

    • @andrewmoluf4299
      @andrewmoluf4299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      yeah that one can be brutal too....you need to get swallowed by a whale and sometimes the game only wants to spawn sharks...or the whale eats you before you can get the peacock feather

    • @TrashwareArt
      @TrashwareArt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I never even made it to the 24 hour timer

  • @eugenezaretskiy683
    @eugenezaretskiy683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1895

    The Santa Claus voice-overs... both of them.... amazing. Thank you.

    • @OneShortEye
      @OneShortEye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +157

      Glad you enjoyed them! And thank you for your support.

    • @andrewgillium
      @andrewgillium 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      sounds like sheogorath

    • @ghoulbuster1
      @ghoulbuster1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Shotouts to the voice actor!

    • @OjoRojo40
      @OjoRojo40 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It was unbearable, I had to skip the parts when he was talking.
      Thanks for the vid! It was really cool.

    • @Torthrodhel
      @Torthrodhel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      @@andrewgillium mortal, do you mean to suggest grand ol' uncle Sheo spends his day once a year delivering gifts to the good girls and boys of the Shivering Isles? Why, I do that every month and a half! They hate it! Hohohohohoho, they universally hate it! Incidentally, has anyone seen my reconfiguration cudgel? I thought I left it by the self-replicating... oh no, forgive my self-censorship. I've promised Haskill to speak no more of wheels of dairy, you see. Something called a meme crawled in and started feeding off that particular word. Oh he doesn't know I promised, but I know I promised, and to jump rrrope with a promise to meself, why - I'd have to be MAD! And I AM mad! Because I'm angry. Or am I hungry? Sticking broken promises back together is fernickety, and muddlesome you see. Perhaps I'd rather find something else broken to stick back together. YOU! You don't look broken. But you could! So go complete that quest I sent ye on. Or suffer the wrath of sticky promises! Or broken sentences? Or toffee fences! Or hidden places? AH! My reconfiguration cudgel is found. And you're still around... oh, hohoho! MERRY CHRISTMAS!

  • @TonkarzOfSolSystem
    @TonkarzOfSolSystem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +424

    12:14 They didn't just reuse the screen, it's the exact same location. Alexander is in Daventry at this point in the game.

    • @Jon4270
      @Jon4270 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I loved that they did that. It really connects the two games together, and makes them feel like they take place in the same universe, instead of just being in the same series.

  • @hrpang
    @hrpang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +490

    You know, Santa Claus is like the ultimate speedrunner. What do you expect from the man who can give gifts to children all over the world in one night?

    • @random_midis
      @random_midis ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ya he moves at like half the speed of light

    • @micahhood6151
      @micahhood6151 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think he got a PB last year

    • @valletas
      @valletas 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well i guess 2 nights because timezones

  • @gamerman7276
    @gamerman7276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +698

    "That's 14 minutes of doing nothing"
    Desert Bus Speedrunners: "Am I a joke to you?"

    • @realah3001
      @realah3001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Why would you speed run 8 hours doing basically nothing

    • @lemone12
      @lemone12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      @@realah3001 charity is cool

    • @felixc543
      @felixc543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      To be fair, Desert Bus speedrunners are kind of a joke to themselves- at least a bit- aren't they?
      Like it's really interesting that folks will sit down and play a game specifically designed to be that hostile, and it definitely takes a lot to get through it, but it's very much For The Meme (and For The Meme for charity) right?

    • @patchedphoenix
      @patchedphoenix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      or hollow knight lowest%

    • @ExtremeWreck
      @ExtremeWreck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Actually, you have to press the left button many times because the bus drifts right by itself.

  • @bud389
    @bud389 2 ปีที่แล้ว +475

    Well, now we know how Santa Claus delivers all those presents so quickly every year....HE ABUSES ZIPS.

  • @joels5150
    @joels5150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +917

    The first time I played through KQ 3, I got to Daventry without defeating Manannan. He kept appearing and killing me during the boat trip, so eventually I realized he couldn’t appear while I was in the crow’s nest. I hid up there, waiting for the boat to make land, then I quickly jumped off the ship. Once in Daventry, he never appeared. I guess I was secretly doing a speed run on my first attempt 😯

    • @OneShortEye
      @OneShortEye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +318

      Yes! Crow's nest is another place Manannan can't get you. It's farther away than the balcony, so that's why runners don't use it. Cool that you were able to find it.

    • @sha11235
      @sha11235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Uh, you can't get into the crow's nest.

    • @OneShortEye
      @OneShortEye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +124

      @@sha11235 I had assumed joels5150 meant the SCREEN with the crow's nest, but you're right, technically you can't get into the crow's nest itself.

    • @davidh8367
      @davidh8367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The cat cookie spell and foiling the desert Medusa were nerve wracking

    • @ZorotheGallade
      @ZorotheGallade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      I can imagine Manannan scrying on you and being like "Dang, I really should teleport in and disintegrate him but that view is amazing, let's wait till he moves to a less scenic position."

  • @aitan6593
    @aitan6593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    Love runners like Santa. The type of people who have the passion, intuition, and dedication to really push a category

  • @holden6104
    @holden6104 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Escaping Manannan was one of the most intense gaming experiences I had as a kid. It truly felt like you were creeping around the house and could be discovered at any moment.

  • @shinyagumon7015
    @shinyagumon7015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +537

    Came her to hear about King's Quest, learned about Santa's favourite off time activity instead.

    • @OneShortEye
      @OneShortEye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Everyone needs a hobby.

    • @SvendleBerries
      @SvendleBerries 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Santa needs to keep his speedrun chops sharp for the Christmas 100% run at the end of each year.

    • @lowfatlatte0
      @lowfatlatte0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rubbing his rock lol

  • @1wngdngl
    @1wngdngl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +308

    Just wanted to say how much I love the line "Santa Claus boards the pirate ship".

    • @doefarris2189
      @doefarris2189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Giving me BIG "Santa Claus meets the Ice Cream Bunny" flashbacks

    • @MrSkerpentine
      @MrSkerpentine 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I remember seeing a video on that terrible Elf Bowling movie and I’m pretty sure that film starts with the idea that Santa Claus started as an evil pirate lmao

  • @buzzlightyearpfp7641
    @buzzlightyearpfp7641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    honestly some of these mechanics feel like they could be really cool in a... better designed game. NPC's having specific schedules and routines, and the complex spell casting system really makes it feel ahead of its time

    • @MrSkerpentine
      @MrSkerpentine 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      I mean the fact that they tried it at ALL in a genre and era of computer games that was still somewhat getting accustomed to having *moving graphics* goes to show how innovative and creative Roberta Williams was for those of the same time

  • @Jrose11
    @Jrose11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +309

    Never heard of King's Quest. Watched the entire thing and loved it.

    • @blooflazh7
      @blooflazh7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hi

    • @Barryfuxx
      @Barryfuxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Small world is small lol

    • @Cooe.
      @Cooe. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      How the hell have you never heard of King's Quest before??? O_o
      It's one of the most famous PC game series literally in history...

    • @Jrose11
      @Jrose11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@Cooe. I'm born in the 90s and this particular game came out in 86. PC gaming doesn't get the same cultural recognition of its console counterpart.

    • @wellthismachinekills3809
      @wellthismachinekills3809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Jrose11 I was born in the 90's and knew about it since at least 99,
      its more that PC gaming was bigger outside north America back then.

  • @ZX3000GT1
    @ZX3000GT1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +694

    6:26 1/8 chance of getting the feather only between 2-14 seconds
    Game once you get it : Ok.
    Perfection

    • @Stratelier
      @Stratelier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      "OK" may have been just a default response for a successful command (with no accompanying scripting or flavortext) but it is SO MEMEABLE.

  • @bd9299292
    @bd9299292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +395

    I have to say, trying to play this game back in 1986/87 as an 11 year-old, without the benefit of online walkthroughs, with only me and my dumb friends trying to work out what to do, was brutally difficult. The spell-making was very punishing. I was finally able to turn the wizard into a cat, but I honestly don't remember if I encountered anything beyond that.

    • @Helladamnleet
      @Helladamnleet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      As a kid my best friend and I (Fred if you're out there) spent a couple weeks in the summer playing KQ 1-7 using his mom's official guide book. We skipped over 3.
      I remember a Leisure Suit Larry from around this ere being harder than shit in the same vein

    • @bricaaron3978
      @bricaaron3978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      My mature opinion is now that King's Quest III is just a very poorly designed game. I really don't think that it is what the overwhelming majority of people would consider fun gameplay. Sierra tried something different, and I'm glad they left it as a failed experiment.
      Don't get me wrong -- time has also made me realize that the King's Quest games in general are not as well-designed as I once believed, but KQ3 is the only one I find unplayable.

    • @Jon4270
      @Jon4270 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's only really bad because you can't skip the waits, even if you've got everything done. At least KQ IV fixed that issue.

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bricaaron3978 Fair, but I want to see more adventure game devs look at failed experiments like this and try to make them work instead of sticking to the successful formulas. We know the successful formulas work, what about this stuff?

    • @bricaaron3978
      @bricaaron3978 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@timothymclean Absolutely.

  • @MahDryBread
    @MahDryBread 2 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    I love the concept of Kings Quest 3, but I could never get anything done in it. Cool to see runs of it!

    • @VenturiLife
      @VenturiLife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a brilliant game actually. I really enjoyed completing it.

    • @hawkticus_history_corner
      @hawkticus_history_corner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I have once again found you in a video I have just stumbled across. And yes, my god this seems terribly difficult

  • @SyndicateOperative
    @SyndicateOperative 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Legitimately enjoyed how this shifted from critique of an old adventure game as a running option, to a triumphant adventure of ambitious runners.

  • @tylociraptor8131
    @tylociraptor8131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1089

    As a non-speedrunner, and as someone who really only sees the hobby through videos about it and about specific runners.... I love that we can have names like xX420BlazeItXx or "Santa Claus" like.... y'all got range.

    • @sephikong8323
      @sephikong8323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      xX420BlazeItXx is a reoccurring character in the speed running community of way more games than you'd imagine or be comfortable with for such a name lmao

    • @tylociraptor8131
      @tylociraptor8131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@sephikong8323 as a big pothead I support the hell out of his endeavors lol

    • @Katzerax
      @Katzerax 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yep. As a speedrunner, I just go by K

    • @CLOYO
      @CLOYO 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@tylociraptor8131 That sounds really cringe lmao

    • @elliottchristie648
      @elliottchristie648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@CLOYO bro who asked? Like why u gotta bring him down? Let him enjoy his hobby.

  • @raharuko
    @raharuko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    its crazy to think it took that long for runners to realize they could fly down the path as a fly, i could never get down normally as a kid lololol

    • @OneShortEye
      @OneShortEye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +144

      I find this is something that happens a lot in games with very few runners. There are fewer people to bounce ideas off of, and to point out things that are "obvious" in hindsight.

  • @neilh184
    @neilh184 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The nostalgia this game evoked in me is palpable. I'm 46 years old and played everything Sierra made. I learned to type playing King's Quest. I'm just tingling watching these shots and remembering

  • @hopegrimsley3427
    @hopegrimsley3427 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I’ve been a huge King’s Quest fan since I was a young girl, and KQIII was one of my favorites. This is such a treat. Thank you.

  • @SamP-xb3mi
    @SamP-xb3mi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Bro the Santa Claus voiceover had me DYING. This video is really well done.

  • @MegaTrojan21
    @MegaTrojan21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    The critical and thorough analysis of a totally obscure speed run with in-depth and well written commentary and interviews of notable runners is truly impressive. I really enjoyed your personal tone and almost conversational presentation. Congratulations on your mastercrafted video essay.

  • @Raxyz_0
    @Raxyz_0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I already like speedrun documentaries by themselves with how creative and competitive these guys usually are, but having the wildcard being nicknamed Santa and hiring a VA was an absolute power move, lmao. I swear I can barely feel the guy cracking at imitating Santa Claus while saying "I spent my childhood playing DOS games". Absolute golden.

  • @amstan3896
    @amstan3896 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    That santa voice was HILARIOUS, added quite a lot to this video.
    I don't usually care about speedrunning, but this was well presented, watched the whole thing.

  • @maymadisson6140
    @maymadisson6140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    That Santa voice over genuinely made this video for me.

  • @LaurentheFlute
    @LaurentheFlute 2 ปีที่แล้ว +235

    This video is fantastic - your editing and timing are hilarious (every moment of Gwydion death, falling, cats, etc., absolutely perfect), the interview excerpts are great, it flows really well, A+++ on the video production side!
    But also I started screaming when I realized they just _skipped Manannan entirely_ like what the everloving hell, how, oh my god???????

    • @OneShortEye
      @OneShortEye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Those are very kind words, thank you! I know what you mean about skipping Manny -- he's THE element that makes this game unique among KQ games. And Santa Claus doesn't even wait to hear the chore in the beginning. :)

    • @carbonfibercarpet4655
      @carbonfibercarpet4655 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Did not expect to run into Lauren the Flute here lmao

    • @LaurentheFlute
      @LaurentheFlute 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OneShortEye Someone else just sent me the link to this video again, and I just noticed you've passed 100k+ views on it! Congratulations, that is *very* well deserved, and I hope you see some really nice channel growth from it in the long term!

    • @LaurentheFlute
      @LaurentheFlute 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@carbonfibercarpet4655 lol, hello! Didn't expect to be recognized here either. Yeah, I love the King's Quest series with my whole entire heart. It's SO great but King's Quest III is without a doubt the Absolute Best and I will fight to defend its honor, and this video is WILD!

  • @mfblowfish4671
    @mfblowfish4671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I loved type command games. Sierra was pretty big part of my childhood. I wish they made type command games still. It was very satisfying to figure out the puzzles in the game and it developed problem solving skills. It was disappointing to me when the developers starting using icons

  • @blundy1
    @blundy1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    These games were a large part of my childhood. Very fun to see such a passionate interest for it. Great video.

  • @bennyboyshs
    @bennyboyshs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The transition from FIVR Santa to budget Santa.... is comical genius! I will sub, like, comment; you deserve that and more. You're showing an incredible amount of talent in entertainment and passion for making this video. I truly hope this channel grows and you're able to reach more people with your content.
    Cheers,
    Benjamin

    • @OneShortEye
      @OneShortEye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @eddvcr598
    @eddvcr598 2 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Man, I remember trying to play King’s Quest III when I was a little kid, and never was able to finish it. My record is decades and counting, and here are these amazing people finishing the game in under half an hour…! And of course Santa reigns supreme. He is Santa Claus after all!

    • @theideaofevil
      @theideaofevil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol yeah I never was able to beat it

  • @hauntedsunsets
    @hauntedsunsets 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    that santa voice acting really knocked it out of the park, but also this video made me wanna try out these games for myself or at least go back and watch some playthroughs

  • @PurepOis0n123
    @PurepOis0n123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Santa Claus' voice actor definitely earned his pay, his bits were real fun. Great video all around.

  • @Nemo2342
    @Nemo2342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    I was very excited to see another video from you; these old Sierra speedruns are absolutely fascinating to me. And no one presents speedrun documentaries better than you.

    • @OneShortEye
      @OneShortEye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Those are exceedingly kind words. Thank you. :)

  • @Don-ds3dy
    @Don-ds3dy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    It's interesting seeing how some game machanics/elements go as far back as the NES period. I get it's not as elaborate or immersive but the idea of a world full of NPCs that seemingly have their own schedules and things to do was probably impressive for the time. Now days I could make such an NPC with a sleep schedule and chores to do in rpg maker within a few minutes.

    • @FUGP72
      @FUGP72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Ummm...this existed long before anyone knew the name Mario Mario and Luigi Mario. At least 2 Infocom text adventure games had this. Back when Donkey Kong was just coming out in arcades

  • @Drakus79
    @Drakus79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I got this game on my 8th birthday and it took me years to beat. We didn't know that you could hid your contraband under the bed and played it over and over again in an attempt to get as much done as possible in the 25 mins that the wizard was away. But it was impossible without being able to hide our stuff. Eventually I got a hint book for the game and beat it pretty easily. Definitely the hardest King's Quest game if you don't have a guide.

  • @mrdarkavocado1113
    @mrdarkavocado1113 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is probably the best video I’ve seen in a while on TH-cam. This is surprising that your channel isn’t at millions of subscribers

  • @markdisalvi1487
    @markdisalvi1487 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    About a year ago I commented on your first video, describing it as another wonderful branch-off from "the house that SummoningSalt built." But you're one of the very first speedrun documentarians I've seen to have your documentaries begin to influence the runs themselves. And you're quite possibly the first to do so directly, in the form of inspiring not just a future record-holder, but one who'd revolutionize the way the game is run.

    • @OneShortEye
      @OneShortEye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't know that I'm the first to do so, but getting people into these games is a good feeling. A similar thing happened with KQV. After that video came out, pawdugan returned to get WR in the CD category.

  • @notgonnasay4571
    @notgonnasay4571 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That voice actor had SO much fun. Absolutely delightful.

  • @coldsnap5742
    @coldsnap5742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I've got a similar story for you.
    Almost no one speedruns Star Ocean: The Second Story on PS1, and that's for one very specific reason.
    There is a bug in the game that is extremely easy to trigger, and when done, will completely crash the game.
    And in any one playthrough, you will have hundreds, if not THOUSANDS of opportunities to accidentally trigger this fatal bug.

    • @bobsaturday5840
      @bobsaturday5840 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That sounds intetesting. Can you explain more, or send articles about this?

    • @coldsnap5742
      @coldsnap5742 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobsaturday5840 The opportunity happens after every single battle--and this being a JRPG, there could be thousands of battles in a single playthrough.
      When you win a fight, voice clips play and the camera pans out.
      If you press ANY BUTTON while a voice clip is playing here, the game will fade to black to load the normal play screen...and STAY black, forever, forcing you to reset.
      "So? Just don't hit a button until they shut up. Easy peasy."
      Imagine you crashing the game because you ACCIDENTALLY HIT A BUTTON when voice clips were playing after a battle ended, and your run is ruined.
      And again, there are THOUSANDS of opportunities to trigger this.
      It should be noted, however, that the remake on PSP, Star Ocean: Second Evolution, FIXED THIS BUG.
      But Square-Enix adamantly refuses to bring over any ports of this remake, unlike the first game's, Star Ocean: First Departure R.
      The ONLY way to play Second Evolution is to get yourself an actual PSP. Or go to Japan, where it WAS released on PS4, entirely in Japanese of course.

    • @bobsaturday5840
      @bobsaturday5840 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coldsnap5742 how the... they managed to sell game in such state?

    • @coldsnap5742
      @coldsnap5742 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobsaturday5840 I have no idea if the Japanese version had this bug.
      It also doesn't happen every time--I played the PS1 original for upwards of 500 hours back in the day. Sometimes you'll just get super unlucky and it'll crash. But it's 100% avoidable if you can somehow keep from pressing buttons until the voice clips end.
      Maybe it had to do with differing file sizes going from Japanese to English for each voiceline, thus messing with the necessary loading.
      But it says a lot that it's still considered one of the best RPGs on the system, and the best game in the Star Ocean franchise.
      Play the PSP game if you can. It really is that good, and it fixes this bug.
      And get First Departure R on Switch! Seriously, it's great too!

    • @bobsaturday5840
      @bobsaturday5840 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coldsnap5742 I'm not big fan of rpg( In most cases you need to grind exp, and that's what I hate. Plus sometimes world just too big to handle

  • @Astinsan
    @Astinsan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I did beat that game without a hint guide. It took me about a year to beat. The manual did help because it had a story.to help with hints in the game because you knew what to listen about and what to discard

  • @ion-shivs
    @ion-shivs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This was the first game I got with my Tandy 1000 SX in 1987. I will always love this game, even though I had to buy a hint book to finish it. Seeing these speed runs is pretty incredible.

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got a Tandy 1000TL, and also had this game. I also had to buy a hint book to finish it. I must have died 1000 times before I got it.

    • @ion-shivs
      @ion-shivs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@5roundsrapid263 I couldn’t find the key on top of the wardrobe in the Manannan’s bedroom. That’s where I got stuck…

  • @littlegamer8006
    @littlegamer8006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm baffled at how entertaining this video was, I was planning to just watch the interesting part but got really hooked thanks to your way of presenting it. Good job !

  • @GregFromMinnesota
    @GregFromMinnesota 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So glad I found this channel! Sierra is one of my favorite developers of all time.
    BTW, Love that Santa Claus sounds kind of like Ving Rhames! Sounds like, at any time, he's going to bust out and say "we have the meats!" 🤣

  • @VintageMidiMusic
    @VintageMidiMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    This was my first King's Quest game I owned back in 1989. Never even thought about speedrunning in relation to Sierra games. Time to do a deep dive. Great work!

    • @MrTrombonebandgeek
      @MrTrombonebandgeek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Knowing the legend of Sierra/LucasArts/adventure game of the time, they seem like very counter to speed running

    • @VintageMidiMusic
      @VintageMidiMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrTrombonebandgeek my thoughts exactly.

    • @buddyguy4723
      @buddyguy4723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ever play police quest man

    • @VintageMidiMusic
      @VintageMidiMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@buddyguy4723 hell yeah man, police quest 1 was a lot of fun, or at least it was back when I was 9. It's been a while.

  • @teddyboukagain9985
    @teddyboukagain9985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It’s funny and heartwarming to see people speed running these old DOS games.

  • @tverdyznaqs
    @tverdyznaqs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No but the thought of Santa Claus beng a gamer and a speedrunner in his free time is hilarious. I mean, what would you be doing with a 364-day weekend each year?

  • @PenniniFroze
    @PenniniFroze ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for including the runner who said during the 14 minute unskippable waiting period he'd sometimes do laundry. I needed to swap mine over. Life saver
    Great video

  • @Ideabot_69
    @Ideabot_69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Very interesting video, even though the only reason I've even heard of King's Quest is because the Brothers Chaps, of Homestar Runner fame, made a parody of it called Peasant's Quest.
    I particularly liked Santa voice-overs, both of them. The abrupt shift from excellent Santa voice to text-to-speech was simply amazing.

    • @nerdnasty6628
      @nerdnasty6628 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah yes, Peasant's Quest. I remember me and my friend used to call each other on our phones and spend hours trying to figure that game out.

  • @mrjohnnyk
    @mrjohnnyk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Well now I know what Santa does with all his time off, speedruns of old DOS games.

  • @lucikruxapache9034
    @lucikruxapache9034 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow that voice actor you hired is really skilled. Hopefully this video gives them some lovely exposure!

  • @polygon586
    @polygon586 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sub-20 is a thing now, with invisibility skip. We still can't skip the 14-minute wait, though...
    Robb actually found a way to set the wait timer to zero, but that only makes things *worse*, since the timer being zero means it never expires.

  • @Bearbytez
    @Bearbytez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    3 is my favorite. The only one I've spent as much time playing is probably 8. My parents ran a BBS server for this game when I was born.
    I never even considered it as a candidate for a speedrun... But I've beaten it pretty damn quickly. Now I'm locked in to this video to inform my decision making about whether I should try it out.

  • @Asalieri2
    @Asalieri2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now all we need is a video about KQ2 and KQ4 speedruns!

  • @Mantis47
    @Mantis47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've loved adventure games since I was a kid, and it never occurred to me that there could be a speedrunning scene for them. I've been binging through all the videos in the channel, and I look forward to more!

  • @morticrows
    @morticrows ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love watching random speedrunning videos about games I've never heard of before. This video was super entertaining to boot, so I'll for sure be checking out more of your videos!

  • @Pezmage1
    @Pezmage1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Man, what a good video! How do you take something like King's Quest 3 speedruns and make it this entertaining? All of your videos have been amazing, looking forward to what you do next!

    • @OneShortEye
      @OneShortEye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      "How do you take something like King's Quest 3 speedruns and make it this entertaining?" By not really focusing on the speedruns. ;)
      Seriously, the runners' skill is nothing to scoff at, but the idea of the run is just so absurd to me, that's where the story is.

  • @christophclear1438
    @christophclear1438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    What a great video. Having only ever played the 5th and 6th installments, this makes me feel like I've now experienced all there is about the 3rd part. And boy does it look frustrating.

    • @OneShortEye
      @OneShortEye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I would actually recommend AGD Interactive's King's Quest III Redux. It updates the graphics, adds voice acting, and is an all-around pleasant experience compared to the original.

    • @christophclear1438
      @christophclear1438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OneShortEye thank you for the recommendation, I'll look into it!

  • @conedx
    @conedx ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i've never in my life attempted to speed run ANY game but...man, do i absolutely love these kind of videos. summoning salt is the channel that turned me on to how frickin' cool this stuff is and i've branched out from there. makes me wanna try to speedrun something but i just don't know if i've got the skill for it.

    • @OneShortEye
      @OneShortEye  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you have any interest in it, you ought to at least try! There are many speedruns that don't take much skill at all to get started.

  • @CaptainJLinebeck
    @CaptainJLinebeck 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video appeared in my recommendations, and I've binged all your videos today. Love your approach to doing speedrun history by including clips from the runners themselves.

  • @recino2
    @recino2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I feel so blessed finding this in my recommended vids. Love watching speed runs and King's Quest is such a nostalgic series for me.

  • @Skitlless
    @Skitlless 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This channel is criminally underrated. Great video!

  • @yukizboy3046
    @yukizboy3046 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    KQ3 was impossibly hard, but IMO was the first KQ game that felt like a true adventure game... the first time you make it down the mountain and go exploring is quite exhilarating.

  • @liamliam6
    @liamliam6 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just binged all of your videos after seeing this on my recommended. I've never played any of these games but your ability to explain everything so clearly, the interviews, the pacing - really good content. Look forward to seeing more.

  • @duttfisch
    @duttfisch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A comment for the almighty algorithm 😁 I really enjoyed this! My favorite part was probably when everyone was talking about what they were doing during the downtime (Lumo doing laundry was a mood lmao) Also the Santa voiceover was great ^^ Keep it up!

    • @OneShortEye
      @OneShortEye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for feeding the TH-cam machine! Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @thepopemichael
    @thepopemichael 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You're one of the most underrated speed running history channels on TH-cam. Your production value is better than those channels 10x bigger than yours.
    Thank you for all of your hard work!

  • @AdamoFC
    @AdamoFC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just found this video and binged all of your other ones... You are a phenomenal TH-camr.. I have never played ANY of these games, let alone any adventure game in this style, and yet I was captivated for every minute of all of your videos. I am so excited to see what other videos you make in the future!

  • @gamerwizard69
    @gamerwizard69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    my man, this was beyond well made and i was astonished you only had a handful of videos when i went to go binge your channel. amazing work and i look forward to what you produce in the future

  • @amberhernandez
    @amberhernandez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Never seen or heard of this game, but watching the struggle to get through RNG hell gives me a new respect for the dedication these people I've never heard of before!

  • @retrotks
    @retrotks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another awesome video from the king of point and click documentaries. Loved it!

  • @JamesOKeefe-US
    @JamesOKeefe-US 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wildly interesting. Really well done! 👍 I played Kings Quest when it first came out and fell in love. Can't wait to watch the rest of your videos. Thanks!!

  • @TheMkabird
    @TheMkabird 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved the voice over!!
    Thank you for these videos, nothing is better than the dramatic tension of "no one could possibly get faster than this.... UNTIL"

  • @WannabeMarysue
    @WannabeMarysue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I think its nice for the game to include a wellness break.

    • @OneShortEye
      @OneShortEye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank goodness for thoughtful devs.

  • @barry-allenthe-flash8396
    @barry-allenthe-flash8396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I just discovered this channel, and I was really enjoying it as-is. High quality stuff. But hiring a Santa Claus soundalike puts this in, like, top tier retro gaming channels forever, lmao. This video was awesome; if this is the type of content you're serving up, well, I wish I could like the video and sub more than once, dude! 😀
    Can't wait to binge-watch the other King's Quest speedrun videos you've put together! Gonna be a fun night!

  • @Overfletch
    @Overfletch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy the youtube algorithm finally recommended me this channel! I'd never heard of King's Quest until this video popped up in my recommended a few days ago, but I've been enjoying going through your other uploads and learning more about the games. Looking forward to future videos

  • @JoseHerrerawl
    @JoseHerrerawl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, I’ve always been curious about these games. You were able to provide great intro and narrative of the speed running history.

  • @tristanwegner
    @tristanwegner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The quirks of the same seemed to be designed to either allow replayability or at least make walkthroughs less useful. Very nice presentation in this video

  • @Fiends4
    @Fiends4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You did the whole Santa thing perfectly, love it!

  • @TrevorGomes
    @TrevorGomes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The switch to pixelated Santa is inspired. So awesome that this video is getting the recognition it deserves. Good stuff, man.

  • @Ojja78
    @Ojja78 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I played this game a lot when I was a kid and I don't think I ever beat it because we didn't have a guide. These early Sierra games are really brutal with their near pixel perfect moving around on the mountains and through different mazes like they had in space quest games where if you touch something you die or if you fall off a mountain you die. Dying in these games is so easy and happened so often. That said, we had so much fun as a family playing them.

  • @Eduard_Moraru
    @Eduard_Moraru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm not too big on watching speedruns but speedrun lore is amazing, especially the way you do it! I hope the algos promote your videos to more people!

    • @ramondiamond6152
      @ramondiamond6152 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      On the same boat as you. I have no idea how a person such as myself, who rarely watches actual speedruns, can find speedrun lore videos so utterly fascinating.

  • @WillisPStyles1
    @WillisPStyles1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wholeheartedly approve of adding Ween to any and all speedruns.

  • @sameaston9587
    @sameaston9587 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    00's kids: Man, Majora's Mask time system is stressful!
    80's elders: Oh, dear, sweet, summer, child...

  • @Natimaguitar
    @Natimaguitar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It looks like Santa got his WR time down to less than 18 minutes at 17:59 and also appears to hold WR 1st place runs in the rest of the Kings Quest games as well as a few other Quest style games!

  • @rickgreer7203
    @rickgreer7203 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And just today, yet another new time: SantaClaus 18m 56s ...damn.

  • @TonkarzOfSolSystem
    @TonkarzOfSolSystem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Are the speed runners aware of the feelies that came with the original game that explained a decent amount of stuff? I only ask because in the King's Quest video they didn't know that the shield protected you from the giant.

    • @OneShortEye
      @OneShortEye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think it depends. For a lot of us, yes, speedrunners are aware of that material. Others, who didn't play the games until later, are only familiar with the digital distributions. Regardless of that, sometimes it's just easy to miss something obvious when there aren't many people to bounce ideas off of.

  • @sox2000
    @sox2000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Think the sea voyage is annoyingly long? Imagine playing the game back then while you had to wait for the computer to load most screens outside the house, especially when you had to insert the necessary disk (I think it was 3.5 in. for III). Oh? Going back to the screen you just left? Put that disk back in. And then, picture yourself rolling your eyes while you hear a Tandy 1000 process each time, making noises like it was powering through constipation. lol ah, the good ol' days.
    But for real, though, this game gave me so much joy as a kid (and yes, agonizing frustration at times haha), but mostly joy and wonder and laughs and awe. Case in point, nearly 4 decades after it was released, I still randomly think about it, remember it fondly, and relive that joy in this TH-cam video. Roberta, Ken, and Team...thank you so much for making a kid who was often bored in childhood so happy. KIng's Quest III was and remains a masterpiece.

  • @Urpuss
    @Urpuss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very interesting and fun to see a different spin on the speedrun history concept. Hope there are more like these in the pipeline! :D

  • @BadWallaby
    @BadWallaby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Santa Claus voice actor is super underrated haha eloquent performance 👏🏼

  • @TehAwesomer
    @TehAwesomer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    paying the actor to voiceover santa is 👌

    • @OneShortEye
      @OneShortEye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When the top runner's name is Santa Claus, you can't leave that opportunity on the table.

  • @RoseTintedSpectrum
    @RoseTintedSpectrum ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a great watch, glad it popped up on my home page! Really well put together and super interesting.

  • @felixc543
    @felixc543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love finding a new video game docs channel
    Awesome vid! Super high quality
    I defs expect this channel to blow up but either way, great job