Have now played the prologue and chapter 1 myself and this game is a delight! My fellow players and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I cannot wait for our next session! This now also makes me want to pick up more legacy games! I think I now need the Pandemic one.
Wow, I honestly thought the alarm was a "death" sound effect... Nice timing, cosmos. ;) Also, the game looks really fun. Having a logical progression helps the narrative a lot.
I wonder about Player count variation between chapters. If we start the campaign with 3 players during the prologue and then move up to 5 players during the 1st and 2nd chapters only to lose those players around chapter 3 will that mess up the progression through the legacy deck? Is every chapter self contained in that regard where you decide what your player count is for the chapter on a case by case basis
@@iankelley4631 I'd recommend against that. Granted, I've never played a Legacy game but it seems to me that it's asking for trouble with players arguing things like "Someone else made this choice for me and that effects my experience. I wouldn't have done that!". Ideally, it seems like Legacy games are best played with the exact same players. That is, at least until all of the "Legacy" choices have been made. Even that seems troublesome though.
I would say that any intelligent player could join the Group if they wanted. And I would allow it. Perhaps they didn't make the choise that effects their game play, but that is what every game is about. The rules are usually not written by the players and you just play by the rules that are given. Or that is how I play. Perhaps others make up rules as they play to fit their play style, but that is certainly not how many board games works. Anyway - I think it looks interesting and I would love to play with withy my brothers, but when played on Christmas Eve it would take 14 years to play through all the scenarios which is why I might not buy it. I would probably want to buy a "complete" game that has already been played. Or if you could play non-story driven scenarios while playing I would play those with my brothers. And then find some other group to play the scenarios with.
My Betrayal Legacy came with only 4 figures in the opening of the box and one of the tiles was BLANK(All black)! We couldn’t refund and we were unhappy :( Ordered it on Amazon on June 20 2019
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if there's any significance to the clock on the box going to 15? If there is, please don't spoil it. I'm just asking if a reason exists, not what it is. That design choice seems odd to me considering that 15 isn't a number associated with anything weird or creepy to my knowledge. Also, there's only the prologue and 13 chapters so it's clearly not a reference to that.
@@michaelmatos7646 Are you sure? I took a screenshot and zoomed in on it. It still looks like a 15 to me. I checked with a friend and he said the same thing. Edit: You're not the designer or otherwise involved in making the game, are you? That would make this conversation a little awkward.
So- I have a question. Is this a totally different game from "betrayal on the house of the hill"? I bought that one (including the widow) and played it with so fun. So Is this game has new scenario or system? Someone plz let me know that.
Hi as someone who owns both the original game and the legacy game i can say that although they are very simalar the legacy game is almost like a prequil to the original with a story as to why the house is thw way that it is. Although ive only played the first few chapters i hiiiiighly recomend the legacy game!!!
If you want to play from scratch, yes you'd need to buy the whole game new. Most legacy games are like this - the only exception I can think of is Charterstone where you can buy a "recharge pack." But as Rob often says, most of the time getting a game to be played 14 times is an achievement in itself. It's definitely not a style of play for everyone, though! :)
I plan to bag certain “destroyed” cards and try to use as much spare paper as I can. I understand Legacy games, but I definitely don’t want to start destroying my game
KMichelle Argus OK so with this kind of stuff we should like have a notebook inside the box that will tell us all of the different information for each play through. because I know my family would want to play this game but they definitely would not want to play it that many times or be constantly buying the game over and over. But I know my friend interested in doing that campaign kind of things. So should I just have a notebook and write down everything that happened in the campaign in that notebook?
Am I the only person that thought of making dry erase cards and make the stickers removable and replaceable....Ive played games where the stickers can easily be peeled off but otherwise stay in place.... Could save a lot of people quite a bit and "destroy the card" instead you just put it aside
The whole point of a legacy game is to sort of force people to be more invested in the game by permanently changing the game. You could do what your saying, but it sort of changes the way you make decisions. It's sort of like playing an rpg with multiple saves vs single saves.
@@nigelbaboolal5072 well my idea is to follow all the rules but instead of destroying the game so you need to buy a new one you instead put those cards away...they dont come back into play in the same game...you make the same decisions because either way you have the same results
neggispringfeild people have done this with other legacy games, use sticky notes and so on so as to not modify the components. And yeah it works. But it defeats the purpose of a legacy game. A legacy game is meant to be modified. It is meant to be changed and altered. If you don’t want to modify the game in this way, yeah it’s fine you can figure out alternatives though they’d be too much work and I think it would take away the fun. But at the end of the day the spirit and purpose of legacy would be missed. Plus, once you’ve played thru the 14 campaign haunts you have access to 36 haunts that are played on your own customized game, slightly different from anyone else’s in the world. There’s tons of replay value. And most people that have played thru a legacy campaign don’t actually replay it again per the stats I’ve seen.
You can't play the 'campaign' multiple times, but you can continue to play the game itself after the campaign is done, using the changes you made throughout the campaign to make the game truly your own.
Not at all, it super simple. You can move your speed every turn (4 moves usually unless it changes) and then if you reveal a tile with a symbol you draw a card from the deck with that symbol. For everything else you just read things and so what it tell you “usually to roll a certain amount of dice. If you can read and aren’t dyslexic anyone can play this game.
Not at all. It genius. Creates a sense of ownership and surprise owithin the game. It’s like a main character dying in a story, it adds weight. Which creates emotion and connection. Creates a unique experience. Not to mention more people love it than hate it.
*claps* Thank you IGN for giving board games a spotlight.
I love how nonchalantly Rob just rips up the card. You can tell he's done it plenty of times before.
Rob might be the funniest designer to play games with
He is funny, quick witted and loves to play to the theme. And he just seems like a great guy overall
Have now played the prologue and chapter 1 myself and this game is a delight! My fellow players and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I cannot wait for our next session!
This now also makes me want to pick up more legacy games! I think I now need the Pandemic one.
Wow, I honestly thought the alarm was a "death" sound effect... Nice timing, cosmos. ;)
Also, the game looks really fun. Having a logical progression helps the narrative a lot.
I want this so badly!
Thanks super excited now to get this! You should do a play through of Arkham Horror 3rd Edition it comes out soon too
I wonder about Player count variation between chapters. If we start the campaign with 3 players during the prologue and then move up to 5 players during the 1st and 2nd chapters only to lose those players around chapter 3 will that mess up the progression through the legacy deck? Is every chapter self contained in that regard where you decide what your player count is for the chapter on a case by case basis
I feel this will be a game that you will need to plan sessions where everyone who started will be there to play every time.
@@Gailardia or at the very least the same amount of people
@@iankelley4631 I'd recommend against that. Granted, I've never played a Legacy game but it seems to me that it's asking for trouble with players arguing things like "Someone else made this choice for me and that effects my experience. I wouldn't have done that!".
Ideally, it seems like Legacy games are best played with the exact same players. That is, at least until all of the "Legacy" choices have been made. Even that seems troublesome though.
I would say that any intelligent player could join the Group if they wanted. And I would allow it. Perhaps they didn't make the choise that effects their game play, but that is what every game is about. The rules are usually not written by the players and you just play by the rules that are given. Or that is how I play. Perhaps others make up rules as they play to fit their play style, but that is certainly not how many board games works. Anyway - I think it looks interesting and I would love to play with withy my brothers, but when played on Christmas Eve it would take 14 years to play through all the scenarios which is why I might not buy it. I would probably want to buy a "complete" game that has already been played. Or if you could play non-story driven scenarios while playing I would play those with my brothers. And then find some other group to play the scenarios with.
Player count can change every session without screwing up anything, although it is fun to play with the same crew every time
So basically if Betrayal became a Telltale series.
:) Many Congrats for this superb and atmospheric board game !
Is it just me, or does this designer look like Alan Rickman?
My Betrayal Legacy came with only 4 figures in the opening of the box and one of the tiles was BLANK(All black)! We couldn’t refund and we were unhappy :( Ordered it on Amazon on June 20 2019
It has a little something for everyone
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if there's any significance to the clock on the box going to 15? If there is, please don't spoil it. I'm just asking if a reason exists, not what it is. That design choice seems odd to me considering that 15 isn't a number associated with anything weird or creepy to my knowledge. Also, there's only the prologue and 13 chapters so it's clearly not a reference to that.
Although it may look like a 15, that is actually the number 13.
It refers to the number of chapters in the game
@@michaelmatos7646 Are you sure? I took a screenshot and zoomed in on it. It still looks like a 15 to me. I checked with a friend and he said the same thing.
Edit: You're not the designer or otherwise involved in making the game, are you? That would make this conversation a little awkward.
@@michaelmatos7646 NVM. I zoomed in on a bigger image and see it now. Thanks.
I zoomed in on the image on Amazon and saw it there. It does look like a 15. And no I am not the designer.
So- I have a question. Is this a totally different game from "betrayal on the house of the hill"? I bought that one (including the widow) and played it with so fun. So Is this game has new scenario or system? Someone plz let me know that.
Hi as someone who owns both the original game and the legacy game i can say that although they are very simalar the legacy game is almost like a prequil to the original with a story as to why the house is thw way that it is. Although ive only played the first few chapters i hiiiiighly recomend the legacy game!!!
@@zombiekid1999 Thanks so much. Gonna go buy one for me soon :3
You guys must have a board games division !!
Is it posible this bardgame vil bekomme Norwegian editon too?
Nice to have a game designer involved in a gameplay. On a negative note why have an overhead camera if you can't get close enough to see anything?
Omg. I want this game, but the destruction of the cards. That hurts
But that's the most satisfying part about legacy games :P
I thought the same but then i thought about it as "there will be no need for this card ever again" and toss them all in a baggy of destroyed cards
The original Betrayal at House on the Hill might be better for you.
What did you guys use to write on the boards? What markers?
I'm guessing Fine Tip Sharpie Markers.
Sharpie markers work well for this and most Legacy games. We use them for this and Pandemic Legacy
He has the beard, but once again he is the worst viking.
names his character marty... :D
What happens if i want to play a second playthrough? Do i need to buy the whole game new, because you just destroyed a card and written on some
FirstMoon 2001 The game has a “free play” mode which is basically stock Betrayal but with all of the stuff you did to cards in the game
If you want to play from scratch, yes you'd need to buy the whole game new. Most legacy games are like this - the only exception I can think of is Charterstone where you can buy a "recharge pack." But as Rob often says, most of the time getting a game to be played 14 times is an achievement in itself. It's definitely not a style of play for everyone, though! :)
I plan to bag certain “destroyed” cards and try to use as much spare paper as I can. I understand Legacy games, but I definitely don’t want to start destroying my game
Just use post it notes or something to represent the cards
KMichelle Argus OK so with this kind of stuff we should like have a notebook inside the box that will tell us all of the different information for each play through.
because I know my family would want to play this game but they definitely would not want to play it that many times or be constantly buying the game over and over. But I know my friend interested in doing that campaign kind of things.
So should I just have a notebook and write down everything that happened in the campaign in that notebook?
Обычно люди в окошке, а игра на весь экран идет - здесь всё наоборот...дисс! =((
Stickers
Am I the only person that thought of making dry erase cards and make the stickers removable and replaceable....Ive played games where the stickers can easily be peeled off but otherwise stay in place.... Could save a lot of people quite a bit and "destroy the card" instead you just put it aside
The whole point of a legacy game is to sort of force people to be more invested in the game by permanently changing the game. You could do what your saying, but it sort of changes the way you make decisions. It's sort of like playing an rpg with multiple saves vs single saves.
@@nigelbaboolal5072 well my idea is to follow all the rules but instead of destroying the game so you need to buy a new one you instead put those cards away...they dont come back into play in the same game...you make the same decisions because either way you have the same results
neggispringfeild people have done this with other legacy games, use sticky notes and so on so as to not modify the components. And yeah it works. But it defeats the purpose of a legacy game. A legacy game is meant to be modified. It is meant to be changed and altered. If you don’t want to modify the game in this way, yeah it’s fine you can figure out alternatives though they’d be too much work and I think it would take away the fun. But at the end of the day the spirit and purpose of legacy would be missed.
Plus, once you’ve played thru the 14 campaign haunts you have access to 36 haunts that are played on your own customized game, slightly different from anyone else’s in the world. There’s tons of replay value. And most people that have played thru a legacy campaign don’t actually replay it again per the stats I’ve seen.
I wish there was a way so you can play this game multiple times
I get what youre saying but in a way rob made it so you could play the game over and over again after in free play unlike a lot of other legacy games
You can't play the 'campaign' multiple times, but you can continue to play the game itself after the campaign is done, using the changes you made throughout the campaign to make the game truly your own.
Just a FYI, Geek and Sundry does a better job in showing the cards and their results.
I will take this with the designer showing how the game is actually played. While G&S was entertaining they make a lot of rule mistakes.
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Love the footage but man... the audio is awful... so much distortion! IGN hire me already... I can fix this stuff...
This sounds so complicated
Not at all, it super simple.
You can move your speed every turn (4 moves usually unless it changes) and then if you reveal a tile with a symbol you draw a card from the deck with that symbol. For everything else you just read things and so what it tell you “usually to roll a certain amount of dice. If you can read and aren’t dyslexic anyone can play this game.
1st😛!
It’s inappropriate to have an ingame mechanic where cards get destroyed. Just bad practice.
Not at all. It genius. Creates a sense of ownership and surprise owithin the game. It’s like a main character dying in a story, it adds weight. Which creates emotion and connection. Creates a unique experience.
Not to mention more people love it than hate it.
I have a folder where "destroyed" pieces go. it makes a ton more sense.
I played this and no one was the witch. We al figured it out at the start though so it was kinda funny
Did you all just show each other’s card?
Seems like it would ruin it.
why do people want to be freaks and play children.
Thomas Whiteowl There’s only three adult figurines, so in a 4-5 player game at least one person has to play a child