@glass of h8rade i only care when someone brings up a negative comment of a brand i love!!all watches bought are as per individual liking!i only care to the extent of trying to correct a perception and i dont care what one thinks about what am wearing!!
You bought it, because you love it, period! I bought too, one PANERAI LUMINOR LOGO, the actual base model, 44mm, PAM01084, two years ago, for daily use, and so far so good, I actually love it. Any complain until now,Thank you.
Great video. Seeing so much negative stuff from TH-camrs lately. I really enjoyed your views. I've seen so many people say 'they just use eta movements they are not worth the cost.' Yet they have close to 15 in-house movements now with many complications, 8 and 10 day power reserves, sealed ceramic bearings, complex skeletonised workings and mini rotors. Very few brands actually make such a diverse range of high quality pieces. I've owned a lot of them over the last decade and wear my 323 now all the time as its my favourite out of the 15 ive owned. Love them.
I've owned two, 111 and the 372. Can't say enough about both the watches. I enjoyed the 111 for many years and now am in love with the 372. 372's vintage appeal is off the charts. Fantastic brand that brings a smile on my face each time I look at my wrist.
I love the Rolex Sub and Breitling Navitimer (both worn by Sean Connery the best Bond) but the astronomical prices the Subs go for these days has turned my off Rolex for good. The Navitimer is a grail watch but Panerai is the only brand that makes me giddy with excitement, I love all the models.
ACTUALLY... Sean Connery (the man, not the Bond character) wore a PAM 190. There are many photos of him wearing this fabulous reference. I have a 190, and it is a small part of the appeal to owning it.
Never say never! I started out with a 1960s gold plated Oris manual wind. I moved onto a couple of Christopher Wards and eventually sold them and put the money towards a Seamaster Coaxial. I then went on to buy a Speedmaster Triple Date and later chopped that in for a Speedy Moonwatch! I have the SeaMaster and Speedmaster in my collection and have since bought a Rolex DateJust, Tudor Hydronaut II, vintage Girard Perregaux HF, Cartier Santos XL, Seiko Alpinist, Omega Day Date tuning fork (hummer) and a PAM0014. I’ve also bought and sold vintage Omegas, Girard Perregaux and Jaeger LeCoultre’s along the way!
Yes, I actually own the 1351 and the 662 and feel very fortunate to have both in my collection. Always loved Panerai but now more than ever. Thanks for educating others about all the great options still available today! Great video!
I've seen a lot of your video's man, but never sub'd. This one tipped me over! I've been seriously burnt financially by PAM's I've previously owned and sold, but F me, I love these watches!! Currently own a 564 and it steals a tonne of wrist time from my 5 Rolex's. One thing though - I'd never wind my 564 while the lever is locked down. Don't do that! :-)
I still don't really feel the Panerai look to be honest, but i really do like how you have slowly come around after years to purchase/review and love them. It's refreshing to see honest growth and passion for watches
I love my PAM 164, (like the 104 but with numbers) I bought it 10 yers ago and it very rarely leaves my wrist. The Aligator strap needs changing but i can't bring myself to spend the £300 ( $500) at the moment.... but the watch is superb no question, love it more than my Explorer II. (prob due to my eyes and age ;-)
Very overpriced and they are addicted to limited edition without any special features. Loses value immediately after retail purchase. I like them but there are a lot of downside.
I have a pam 005 and l love it every wear l go get compliments the history the way they look is a classic and its a different looking watch. Panerai brand is under valued u getting every penny worth of your hard earning money must buy. Rolex made cases and movements for panerai. I have a rolex submariner ceramic date and Huer monaco calibre 11 steeve mcqueen too am fussy with my watches l do loads of research before l buy. For me l take a panerai over bretling.
Breitling, Panerai and some of the others will be back. Real problem is all of these little watch companies starting up everywhere. There just assembling a watch and throwing a ETA movement in them. Selling them for under a grand. People think these watches are just like Panerai, Breitling, Omega and all the other staples that have been around forever. The Rolex bubble will eventually burst. Every jerkoff with a little money right now wants a steel sports Rolex. In a few years everyone will have one. Then it's Game over red rover. A $20,000 GMT master II will be back to 7 to 10 grand US. Better yet a real financial crisis like the one in 2008 happens and you will pick up Subs, Gmt's, for 2 to 3 grand
Old Panerai is good. When the new CEO took over he made it the Aldi of Watch brands. 1. Push pins on some models 2. Snap case backs on some models 3. Low water resistance on some models 4. Quality issues (I had a roller bearing get stuck and the crown would scratched by the push level when closing and opening) 5. Worst bezels on the market for their submersibles. 6. The 682 42mm sub is the last one with the 90110 movement. They raised prices and cheapened it by using a non in house movements 7. Only one strap comes worth most models now The company is cutting corners left and right.
The Panerai Luminor Due is marketed as a DRESS WATCH with panerai design cues..nothing wrong with having 30m WR on a dress watch.. Even the Breitling Navitimer has 30m WR..and that is a SPORTS WATCH... This false criticism is just coming from hysterical rolex fangirls
Watch Aficionado base logo has 330ft water resistance and used to be 1000ft. Your whole comment is idiotic and I didn't mention the duo at all..... so you can't really read either !!
Pam111 has always been my favourite. Simplistic yet elegant. The thin case is much easier to wear. And the manual wind adds a personal feel to the watch that automatic doesn’t do for me.
Had the 312. Lost it wakeboarding. Wore a Rolex ever since. Always missed the Pam. Got a 372 a month ago. The Rolex was put away ever since. The Pam is such a fun watch to wear. It's "rebellious". And so best worn when it's going against the trend. A rebellious watch that is in trend is an oxymoron. Love the vid. Thank you.
I love the brand but I don't think the quality is always there. The crown guard on mine fell off and I was very disappointed by the quality of the crown itself. But I do keep coming back to them - love the history and the iconic masculine designs. They have made some serious mistakes but so have many brands
Panerai's crown guards don't "fall off" just like that. It is made off stainless steel and is tightly attached with two screws on the watch. Some serious force is needed to the crownguard to "fall off" the watch. Same for the crown. The crown on my Panerai watch is very solid. Unless you had a fake.
Why Sly Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Jason Statham wear Panera’s. They are masculine looking watches. Why I love them too. I want to get the PAM 1438 next. All ceramic. Beautiful.
The reason i hated panerai first was because they used very basic movememts and charged almost. 3.5k for it. Now they make still overpriced watches but this time they are very hot with great movements. Secondhand they are very wirth it
@@lettuce1305 hublot also sucks ultra major ass. but IWC modifies the shit out of their movements and the finishing is on a very high standard. panerai have meh finishing and only are cosc certified. IWC have their own certificates and those are waaay tougher to get.
I believe that Panerai collectors would be better served by offering a broader range of both classic and contemporary timepieces. Additionally, incorporating a variety of colorful rubber straps could provide an engaging way for collectors to experiment with personalization. A good example would be matching a bright red rubber strap with a PAM 24. It is crucial to avoid having an entire collection of watches that all appear similar in design.
Just found this today... you say 'beautifully finished movement'. A buddy of mine is a watchmaker and services panerai. He has shown me that Panny only finishes movement parts that are visible thru the display back. Otherwise, no finishing which IMO is shameful for that price point. JLC for example finishes all parts front and back that only the watchmaker will see, but that to me is a big difference in quality and why panerai kinda cuts corners where they can while charging a premium.
Panerai doesn’t do in-house movements. They are made by ValFleurier, i.e. same group but not in-house. They are just marketed as such. Getting an ETA is better anyway. Robust, cheap and easy to have serviced anywhere and accurate.
My buddy has a Panerai, great watch for guys with big wrists. The issue for me is that it's a bit niche and so because my buddy has one, I feel like if I got one it would look like I'm copying him. Imagine the horror if we show up to the bar wearing the same watch?!?!?!?
Panerai is my favorite watch. Has been. I love how uncommon they are. Not cliche like Rolex. Every time I wear mine I get compliments. Because it’s a rarely seen watch.
Great brand! Finally took the plunge with a Pam00560 and I love it. Looking for a 1305 or 1389 too. Definitely undervalued and your channel helped me get acquainted and make my choice. Cheers
Vlog was so boring……… I did notice all the watches had dark dials the white dial shows off the watch better. Like the Rolex explorer 2 with the white dial but do agree panerai is an understated brand to many Rolex’s around and if you don’t want your arm ripped off this is the brand to have.
Looked over the Panerai Store in Singapore. The Ceramica with the black ceramic band is beautiful. But the band alone cost as much as the watch with the leather strap. Liked the Radiomir Black Seal (it's cheaper than my Black/Orange Omega 600M), but not a fan of the green glow. I like the brown/yellow glow much better. The submersibles were cool, but the blue second hand feels 'out of place' to me. So I went upstairs to IWC and got my Big Pilot in black so fast it would make your head spin. LOL. Still super happy with the decision. Cost as much as a full Ceramica, but I like it more. Paneria is a good brand, love the 45mm sizes. it just seems too easy to find something else you'd rather buy right now.
Yeah, i was at the Panerai Singapore on 22 December 2019. A foreigner with his wife was asking about the ceramica strap. It cost SGD5000. I bought a rubber strap with the big "officine panerai" wordings on it for my pam1389.
Just recently got my first Panerai. They didn't have any of the Luminor ref i wanted to see, so i asked to see a Radiomir. And walked out with a 753. I know its a cheap entry level model that some wouldn't even glance at but its absolutely beautiful and i haven't taken it off my wrist since. Thank you for this video even though my comment is years late
Fuck if its cheap... its a panerai. Panerai is great because they are available both within the budget of us mortal people but also through AD'S. Im buying my first pam. In a month or so, I feel confident with a 904 but im not completely sure yet😎
My favorite brand. The historical lines are the way to go like the 372, 232 etc. The history of how Rolex created the cases and Panerai created the dials. Fascinating history once you get into it.
Thanks for sharing J. Totally agree. Cool pieces. I think you can also say that along with being underrated and underappreciated, Panerai is misunderstood. These were originally Rolex watches in the 1930's to 1950's. Panerai only made the dial. These are the coolest Rolex watches ever made IMHO.
I have a Pam61, 199 and a 91. All purchased new at the time. Looking at buying a 372, probably used. I agree at the moment very underrated - but no doubt will come back in a big way! Great video 👍 cheers
Think you were looking for they have a "je ne sais quoi". Have to say I'm personally not a fan of their styling. But like basically everything it's all about personal taste. Most watch brands deserve a lot more respect than some people give them. Great video thanks
Crap, i thought I edited that out lol...I do these in one take and have no idea why I mispronounced it...I know better and thought I deleted that part lol
Panerai is a dive watch company. Overpriced, overhyped. You continue to offer Pams twice the value on your company's website. Drop your prices and the watches will move.
Once upon a time I was to decide PAM or "basic" Rolex? So I took .... Luminor Marina titanium 177. Manual winding, no any options. And I ❤ love it. And every year out of 10 passed I read many "professional" analytics how Panerai overestimated and prices will drop. Ha-ha. So, thank you for positive view 😊
I had Panerai Luminor Marina 328 before and now Radiomir 992, I prefer the Radiomir 992, it's light and comfortable to wear on the wrist compared to the 328.
I just bought a Panerai 320 GMT in 44 mm recently on 30th August 2020,....I LOVE BIG Size watches in 44 mm and 47 mm, a Centralized hour and minute hand is a MUST.....I don't like small moon separate hour and minute hand, as many complicated watches nowadays have NOT a centralized hour and minute hands.........28,800 VPH (Vibration per hour) in 4 Hz is also a must for an accuracy which is Panerai pam 320 having 28,800 vph movement......previously, I have 3 Hz watches and always NOT Accurate..........Panerai 320 GMT has an IN House watch movement with a 3 Days Power Reserved in the back side watch movement in automatic..........IN HOUSE movement is also a MUST in watches nowadays.........Customers are becoming more choosy and always demand the best mechanical watches with NO Battery on the watch movement......Automatic and Hand Winding are my choice of watches.......Beside Panerai pam 320 GMT in 44 mm, I also have a Panerai 297 GMT in 44 mm as well as popular Panerai 372 in 47 mm in Plexiglass........Italiano certainly knew how to design a good BIG SIZE Watches........Luminor is my favorite.......Radiomir, Submersible.....are NOT my favorite in Panerai.......44 mm and 47 mm are my favorite BIG Size watches.........so I guess I am a Paneristi.......watch collector....Thanks for reading...O:))
Underrated? They are not underrated. On the contrary - I think they get more attention than they deserve. WE are talking about a company which sells the least watch for the money. Some people like how they look and that is ok but to spend 5K just for a look and get nothing from the watch itself. For 5000 EUR (which is an average price for entry level Panerai watches ) the buyer gets BRONZE CASE FOR GOD'S SAKE. Not Gold, NOt Silver, NOT EVEN STEEL. The quality of materials is meh , the movements were 300 EUR ETA until recently when Panerai started their own in house movements which are WORSE than even ETAS. 5k for a Bronze case watch with a 100% machined parts and 0% hand decorations. No wonder they are running out of customers and have a bad rep. THEY ARE HUGELY OVERPRICED. A basic no date manual winding BRONZE Panerai's real price is around 1000-1500 EUR and that is thanks to them using in house movement. IF they still used ETA - the real price would be 700EUR.
I used to love Panerai because of it's looks and history - until I found out that they are not well put together and age badly. Fx. chrome falls off hands, and the 15, 30 and 45 markers turn around and fall off. The crown-lock and the bezel also can be tricky and it costs ridiculous amounts of money to have the smallest repair done. Too much luxury (pricing) and NOT the tough tool watch it used to be in the last century. That's why Panerai isn't cool anymore IMHO.
Underrated? Come on Pams are overrated dude. Which clearly explains the huge depreciation if buy new. In Singapore a 11K brand new will sell for 7K used sparingly for less then 1 year. Still have 6 year warranty left.
To be honest I have grown a little tired of the massive bulk of my Panerai (I have a model 177, which is a 44mm manual-wind Luminor Marina). I am constantly bonking it on door frames, etc. Possibly I'll trade it in for a 40mm model, but those aren't really as iconic and the only ones I'm aware of are automatics, which only adds to the height. I bought a little Sinn #856 used and it's a much more reasonable size and seems to be the one I wear 90% of the time now.
I love my PAM00320 For a number of reasons Power Reserve Return to Zero Seconds Movement appears so smooth compared to other brands Crystal Caseback Crown is easy to put back in after setting date/time Changeable Straps You dont see many people wearing Panerai in London I also love my Rolex Explorer 114270 but it does not have these things. It doesn't bother me if others dont think its hot who wants to be like everyone else.
IMO, a Panerai should not have a date window. When I view their current range, so many are untouchable because of the date window. The submersible 42mm models are quite handsome, but again, made untouchable by the ugly date windows unbalancing the dials.
Panerai f#cked itself with ridiculous “limited editions” and way overpriced production pieces...the latest epic fail is the use of spring bars and snap-on casebacks....absolutely ridiculous...no wonder the brand is in a tail spin. #epicfail
From an aesthetic perspective Panerai is definitely unique and fun. And given their prices on the secondary market, definitely worth a try. The only concern is whether or not these will be considered unfashionable in five years time.
thing is the luminor design has been around for quite some time and panerai was quite popular in the last decade, i think panerai's design has its niche
Just purchased the GMT only complaint is the stated obvious 'Power Reserve' prefer this was not typed on face to keep it more simple. Be nice if they sold with options!
I love my 1392 in-house. I really don't care about collectors telling me it's not "hot" anymore. I bought it to wear it, not re-sell it.
I hv the 312 with the green lume and I care a squat for what anyone says as I just love the watch
@glass of h8rade i only care when someone brings up a negative comment of a brand i love!!all watches bought are as per individual liking!i only care to the extent of trying to correct a perception and i dont care what one thinks about what am wearing!!
After Angelo B. was gone, it went downhill. I do have a PAM left though lol
I’ve got a 1392 coming in a few days. Really excited😛.
You bought it, because you love it, period! I bought too, one PANERAI LUMINOR LOGO, the actual base model, 44mm, PAM01084, two years ago, for daily use, and so far so good, I actually love it. Any complain until now,Thank you.
Their appeal multiplies exponentially as the in crowd begin to lose interest..
Agree 100%
Love this brand!
Panerai is still one of my favorite brands.
Great video. Seeing so much negative stuff from TH-camrs lately. I really enjoyed your views. I've seen so many people say 'they just use eta movements they are not worth the cost.' Yet they have close to 15 in-house movements now with many complications, 8 and 10 day power reserves, sealed ceramic bearings, complex skeletonised workings and mini rotors. Very few brands actually make such a diverse range of high quality pieces. I've owned a lot of them over the last decade and wear my 323 now all the time as its my favourite out of the 15 ive owned. Love them.
They make a tourbillon, for God's sake...lol...so you are very right.
I've owned two, 111 and the 372. Can't say enough about both the watches. I enjoyed the 111 for many years and now am in love with the 372. 372's vintage appeal is off the charts. Fantastic brand that brings a smile on my face each time I look at my wrist.
I love the Rolex Sub and Breitling Navitimer (both worn by Sean Connery the best Bond) but the astronomical prices the Subs go for these days has turned my off Rolex for good. The Navitimer is a grail watch but Panerai is the only brand that makes me giddy with excitement, I love all the models.
Think connery wore a breitling top time, not a navitimer.
ACTUALLY... Sean Connery (the man, not the Bond character) wore a PAM 190. There are many photos of him wearing this fabulous reference. I have a 190, and it is a small part of the appeal to owning it.
The more i watch , the more I want one, the Old case Base my favorite, simplicity is a beauty
These are truly unobtainable for me, but they are the Holy Grail. Great content J!
Never say never!
I started out with a 1960s gold plated Oris manual wind. I moved onto a couple of Christopher Wards and eventually sold them and put the money towards a Seamaster Coaxial. I then went on to buy a Speedmaster Triple Date and later chopped that in for a Speedy Moonwatch! I have the SeaMaster and Speedmaster in my collection and have since bought a Rolex DateJust, Tudor Hydronaut II, vintage Girard Perregaux HF, Cartier Santos XL, Seiko Alpinist, Omega Day Date tuning fork (hummer) and a PAM0014.
I’ve also bought and sold vintage Omegas, Girard Perregaux and Jaeger LeCoultre’s along the way!
Buy homage.....
@@markboland2545 never ever will a homage have the same feel 😄
But I hear you 👍🏼
My PAM329 from 2012 is lovely. Small seconds, date window, GMT function on a steel bracelet. PAMguard authenticated. Very lovely watch.
As someone on the market for a PAM 423, I hope this video doesn't raise any asking prices
I really love Panerai..soo happy that they are much cheaper in the secondary market now...can even get a reasonable discount on them brand new..
Beautiful watches, thanks for sharing!
I actually needed to see this vid to help with my decision. Was leaning towards 312, but will now give the 1351 a looksee.
jive turkey I love my 1351! It’s light, and slimmer looking. Great choice if you decide to get one.
JIVE👍👍👍
Grande scelta
You had two introductions, content didn't start until 3 minutes in
Yes, I actually own the 1351 and the 662 and feel very fortunate to have both in my collection. Always loved Panerai but now more than ever. Thanks for educating others about all the great options still available today!
Great video!
I still really like vintage Panerai that has T Dial.
It looks great with patina.
I've seen a lot of your video's man, but never sub'd. This one tipped me over! I've been seriously burnt financially by PAM's I've previously owned and sold, but F me, I love these watches!! Currently own a 564 and it steals a tonne of wrist time from my 5 Rolex's. One thing though - I'd never wind my 564 while the lever is locked down. Don't do that! :-)
Thanks, I appreciate you subbing and your feedback
I still don't really feel the Panerai look to be honest, but i really do like how you have slowly come around after years to purchase/review and love them. It's refreshing to see honest growth and passion for watches
I love my PAM 164, (like the 104 but with numbers) I bought it 10 yers ago and it very rarely leaves my wrist. The Aligator strap needs changing but i can't bring myself to spend the £300 ( $500) at the moment.... but the watch is superb no question, love it more than my Explorer II. (prob due to my eyes and age ;-)
Very overpriced and they are addicted to limited edition without any special features. Loses value immediately after retail purchase. I like them but there are a lot of downside.
They aren't investments. We buy because we like this brand of watches.
Pam 233 is my fav
I love my pam388 and the p9000 in-house movement is just gorgeous.
I have a pam 005 and l love it every wear l go get compliments the history the way they look is a classic and its a different looking watch. Panerai brand is under valued u getting every penny worth of your hard earning money must buy. Rolex made cases and movements for panerai.
I have a rolex submariner ceramic date and Huer monaco calibre 11 steeve mcqueen too am fussy with my watches l do loads of research before l buy. For me l take a panerai over bretling.
Breitling, Panerai and some of the others will be back. Real problem is all of these little watch companies starting up everywhere. There just assembling a watch and throwing a ETA movement in them. Selling them for under a grand. People think these watches are just like Panerai, Breitling, Omega and all the other staples that have been around forever. The Rolex bubble will eventually burst. Every jerkoff with a little money right now wants a steel sports Rolex. In a few years everyone will have one. Then it's Game over red rover. A $20,000 GMT master II will be back to 7 to 10 grand US. Better yet a real financial crisis like the one in 2008 happens and you will pick up Subs, Gmt's, for 2 to 3 grand
Old Panerai is good. When the new CEO took over he made it the Aldi of Watch brands.
1. Push pins on some models
2. Snap case backs on some models
3. Low water resistance on some models
4. Quality issues (I had a roller bearing get stuck and the crown would scratched by the push level when closing and opening)
5. Worst bezels on the market for their submersibles.
6. The 682 42mm sub is the last one with the 90110 movement. They raised prices and cheapened it by using a non in house movements
7. Only one strap comes worth most models now
The company is cutting corners left and right.
The Panerai Luminor Due is marketed as a DRESS WATCH with panerai design cues..nothing wrong with having 30m WR on a dress watch.. Even the Breitling Navitimer has 30m WR..and that is a SPORTS WATCH... This false criticism is just coming from hysterical rolex fangirls
Watch Aficionado base logo has 330ft water resistance and used to be 1000ft. Your whole comment is idiotic and I didn't mention the duo at all..... so you can't really read either !!
Honestly how often does anyone go deeper than 10 feet??People get crazy over Water resistance.I highly doubt you’ll ever dive 300ft.
I have always wanted the Pam 111. I think it’s beautiful
Pam111 has always been my favourite.
Simplistic yet elegant.
The thin case is much easier to wear. And the manual wind adds a personal feel to the watch that automatic doesn’t do for me.
Had the 312. Lost it wakeboarding. Wore a Rolex ever since. Always missed the Pam. Got a 372 a month ago. The Rolex was put away ever since. The Pam is such a fun watch to wear. It's "rebellious". And so best worn when it's going against the trend. A rebellious watch that is in trend is an oxymoron.
Love the vid. Thank you.
just bought one and love the luminor gmt 3 day reserve, may look at buying another one.
@j.anthony were all those luminors 44mm?
They all look the same and are way overpriced
I love the brand but I don't think the quality is always there. The crown guard on mine fell off and I was very disappointed by the quality of the crown itself. But I do keep coming back to them - love the history and the iconic masculine designs. They have made some serious mistakes but so have many brands
Panerai's crown guards don't "fall off" just like that. It is made off stainless steel and is tightly attached with two screws on the watch. Some serious force is needed to the crownguard to "fall off" the watch. Same for the crown. The crown on my Panerai watch is very solid. Unless you had a fake.
if that's a genuine panerai and the crown guard fell off, your finger must have fallen off too
Why Sly Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Jason Statham wear Panera’s. They are masculine looking watches. Why I love them too. I want to get the PAM 1438 next. All ceramic. Beautiful.
I used to love watches. Now I love Panerai! 💘. 025, 449, 372, 670.
The reason i hated panerai first was because they used very basic movememts and charged almost. 3.5k for it. Now they make still overpriced watches but this time they are very hot with great movements. Secondhand they are very wirth it
if you're complaining about panerai using eta and charging 4k for it. What about iwc and hublot? tudor used to do that too.
@@lettuce1305 hublot also sucks ultra major ass. but IWC modifies the shit out of their movements and the finishing is on a very high standard. panerai have meh finishing and only are cosc certified. IWC have their own certificates and those are waaay tougher to get.
I believe that Panerai collectors would be better served by offering a broader range of both classic and contemporary timepieces. Additionally, incorporating a variety of colorful rubber straps could provide an engaging way for collectors to experiment with personalization. A good example would be matching a bright red rubber strap with a PAM 24. It is crucial to avoid having an entire collection of watches that all appear similar in design.
Just found this today... you say 'beautifully finished movement'. A buddy of mine is a watchmaker and services panerai. He has shown me that Panny only finishes movement parts that are visible thru the display back. Otherwise, no finishing which IMO is shameful for that price point. JLC for example finishes all parts front and back that only the watchmaker will see, but that to me is a big difference in quality and why panerai kinda cuts corners where they can while charging a premium.
Panerai doesn’t do in-house movements. They are made by ValFleurier, i.e. same group but not in-house. They are just marketed as such. Getting an ETA is better anyway. Robust, cheap and easy to have serviced anywhere and accurate.
My buddy has a Panerai, great watch for guys with big wrists. The issue for me is that it's a bit niche and so because my buddy has one, I feel like if I got one it would look like I'm copying him. Imagine the horror if we show up to the bar wearing the same watch?!?!?!?
Still have 3 in my collection. A pam005, 63 and 190. Might have to get them out again. Loved the straps as much as the watches
Panerai is my favorite watch. Has been. I love how uncommon they are. Not cliche like Rolex. Every time I wear mine I get compliments. Because it’s a rarely seen watch.
What about their GMT’’s?
outstanding video sir as usual I do enjoy some Panerai
Great brand! Finally took the plunge with a Pam00560 and I love it. Looking for a 1305 or 1389 too. Definitely undervalued and your channel helped me get acquainted and make my choice. Cheers
Vlog was so boring……… I did notice all the watches had dark dials the white dial shows off the watch better.
Like the Rolex explorer 2 with the white dial but do agree panerai is an understated brand to many Rolex’s around and if you don’t want your arm ripped off this is the brand to have.
Love my PAM00243 Submersible. The submersibles are the style not mentioned in this review. Love the style and history of Panerai. Good video.
*Glad you're making videos dude, going to enjoy my binge on these!*
Excellent video. Would have subscribed however it has been 3 years since you last posted.
Didn't IWC also use the 7750 sans de chronographing set?
If you have a small wrist, you can't wear them.
Being associated with morons like you is another reason to avoid the brand.
That why there are special the are like ferrari italian the do it better ...
there are 38-42mm panerais, just fyi
Proud owner of the new PAM995!!!
I am a fan of Panerai; they are unique and an important brand with history, style and sturdiness.
In the moment you where winding up the watch still locked crown, I was out!
Damm, i hope there prices come down so i can buy another one. I love them.
Great video. I will definitely subscribe.
I love Panerai but Those p-series in-house movements are shit
What are your issues with the movements
So glad you did this video! I'm in the market for one!
Looked over the Panerai Store in Singapore. The Ceramica with the black ceramic band is beautiful. But the band alone cost as much as the watch with the leather strap. Liked the Radiomir Black Seal (it's cheaper than my Black/Orange Omega 600M), but not a fan of the green glow. I like the brown/yellow glow much better. The submersibles were cool, but the blue second hand feels 'out of place' to me. So I went upstairs to IWC and got my Big Pilot in black so fast it would make your head spin. LOL. Still super happy with the decision. Cost as much as a full Ceramica, but I like it more. Paneria is a good brand, love the 45mm sizes. it just seems too easy to find something else you'd rather buy right now.
I get your love for the big pilot
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Hi. I have the 441 which is the ceramica with a leather band. I’d consider selling it as I have my heart set on something else at the moment
Yeah, i was at the Panerai Singapore on 22 December 2019. A foreigner with his wife was asking about the ceramica strap. It cost SGD5000. I bought a rubber strap with the big "officine panerai" wordings on it for my pam1389.
Just recently got my first Panerai. They didn't have any of the Luminor ref i wanted to see, so i asked to see a Radiomir. And walked out with a 753. I know its a cheap entry level model that some wouldn't even glance at but its absolutely beautiful and i haven't taken it off my wrist since. Thank you for this video even though my comment is years late
Fuck if its cheap... its a panerai. Panerai is great because they are available both within the budget of us mortal people but also through AD'S.
Im buying my first pam. In a month or so, I feel confident with a 904 but im not completely sure yet😎
No such thing as a cheap PAM I sold pretty much my entire collection after I got my first Panerai and now mostly have Panerai.
I thought Panerai was the most overrated and overpriced 😅😅😅
Panerai underrated ??? 😂😂 this is a fucking joke
Very nice review, thank you.
Panerais are nice, massively overpriced fashion watches.
Keep up the good work. Regards, Giorgia Mondani.
My favorite brand. The historical lines are the way to go like the 372, 232 etc. The history of how Rolex created the cases and Panerai created the dials. Fascinating history once you get into it.
Rolex supplied the movments from 1935 to 1945.
Love my PAM005 on my 195 wrist.
All it takes is the right sports person or movie star to wear one and boom, panerai could be more popular than Rolex.
Never gonna recover their reputation after the PAM318 fiasco!
Thanks for sharing J. Totally agree. Cool pieces. I think you can also say that along with being underrated and underappreciated, Panerai is misunderstood. These were originally Rolex watches in the 1930's to 1950's. Panerai only made the dial. These are the coolest Rolex watches ever made IMHO.
Yeah, love the Rolex history
Why do you think it’s underrated? The costs are in line with Rolex, if not more than that of Rolex’s of similar functions.
I have a Pam61, 199 and a 91. All purchased new at the time. Looking at buying a 372, probably used. I agree at the moment very underrated - but no doubt will come back in a big way! Great video 👍 cheers
Think you were looking for they have a "je ne sais quoi". Have to say I'm personally not a fan of their styling. But like basically everything it's all about personal taste. Most watch brands deserve a lot more respect than some people give them. Great video thanks
Crap, i thought I edited that out lol...I do these in one take and have no idea why I mispronounced it...I know better and thought I deleted that part lol
Panerai is a dive watch company. Overpriced, overhyped. You continue to offer Pams twice the value on your company's website. Drop your prices and the watches will move.
No submersible?
Panerai watches are just incredible looking....I'm on my second one
PAM 320 baby!!!!!!!!!!
I wear my 673 more than anything else in my collection despite it being the least hot with collectors
Once upon a time I was to decide PAM or "basic" Rolex? So I took .... Luminor Marina titanium 177. Manual winding, no any options. And I ❤ love it. And every year out of 10 passed I read many "professional" analytics how Panerai overestimated and prices will drop. Ha-ha. So, thank you for positive view 😊
I had Panerai Luminor Marina 328 before and now Radiomir 992, I prefer the Radiomir 992, it's light and comfortable to wear on the wrist compared to the 328.
What is the difference between a Pam 1351 and 1312?
ray h. Thanks for the insight. You were a huge help
The correct spelling in Italian is: -- P"A"merica "NE"mesis "RI"gh -- Hearing the name of brand from english people is fun but incorrect! :D
I just bought a Panerai 320 GMT in 44 mm recently on 30th August 2020,....I LOVE BIG Size watches in 44 mm and 47 mm, a Centralized hour and minute hand is a MUST.....I don't like small moon separate hour and minute hand, as many complicated watches nowadays have NOT a centralized hour and minute hands.........28,800 VPH (Vibration per hour) in 4 Hz is also a must for an accuracy which is Panerai pam 320 having 28,800 vph movement......previously, I have 3 Hz watches and always NOT Accurate..........Panerai 320 GMT has an IN House watch movement with a 3 Days Power Reserved in the back side watch movement in automatic..........IN HOUSE movement is also a MUST in watches nowadays.........Customers are becoming more choosy and always demand the best mechanical watches with NO Battery on the watch movement......Automatic and Hand Winding are my choice of watches.......Beside Panerai pam 320 GMT in 44 mm, I also have a Panerai 297 GMT in 44 mm as well as popular Panerai 372 in 47 mm in Plexiglass........Italiano certainly knew how to design a good BIG SIZE Watches........Luminor is my favorite.......Radiomir, Submersible.....are NOT my favorite in Panerai.......44 mm and 47 mm are my favorite BIG Size watches.........so I guess I am a Paneristi.......watch collector....Thanks for reading...O:))
Underrated? They are not underrated. On the contrary - I think they get more attention than they deserve.
WE are talking about a company which sells the least watch for the money. Some people like how they look and that is ok but to spend 5K just for a look and get nothing from the watch itself.
For 5000 EUR (which is an average price for entry level Panerai watches ) the buyer gets BRONZE CASE FOR GOD'S SAKE. Not Gold, NOt Silver, NOT EVEN STEEL. The quality of materials is meh , the movements were 300 EUR ETA until recently when Panerai started their own in house movements which are WORSE than even ETAS.
5k for a Bronze case watch with a 100% machined parts and 0% hand decorations. No wonder they are running out of customers and have a bad rep.
THEY ARE HUGELY OVERPRICED. A basic no date manual winding BRONZE Panerai's real price is around 1000-1500 EUR and that is thanks to them using in house movement.
IF they still used ETA - the real price would be 700EUR.
The Pam case is very addictive
Love Panerai got four of them...
The 1033 is a classic example of how underrated Panerai is. Blue dial. Gmt. Open case back. Visual power reserve. In house movement. Under 10k.
Panerai...😍
I used to love Panerai because of it's looks and history - until I found out that they are not well put together and age badly. Fx. chrome falls off hands, and the 15, 30 and 45 markers turn around and fall off. The crown-lock and the bezel also can be tricky and it costs ridiculous amounts of money to have the smallest repair done. Too much luxury (pricing) and NOT the tough tool watch it used to be in the last century. That's why Panerai isn't cool anymore IMHO.
Underrated? Come on Pams are overrated dude.
Which clearly explains the huge depreciation if buy new.
In Singapore a 11K brand new will sell for 7K used sparingly for less then 1 year. Still have 6 year warranty left.
To be honest I have grown a little tired of the massive bulk of my Panerai (I have a model 177, which is a 44mm manual-wind Luminor Marina). I am constantly bonking it on door frames, etc. Possibly I'll trade it in for a 40mm model, but those aren't really as iconic and the only ones I'm aware of are automatics, which only adds to the height. I bought a little Sinn #856 used and it's a much more reasonable size and seems to be the one I wear 90% of the time now.
I found one on the street is a luminor marina Panerai automatic how much cost this watch madel pb519494 op6567
I love my PAM00320
For a number of reasons
Power Reserve
Return to Zero Seconds
Movement appears so smooth compared to other brands
Crystal Caseback
Crown is easy to put back in after setting date/time
Changeable Straps
You dont see many people wearing Panerai in London
I also love my Rolex Explorer 114270 but it does not have these things.
It doesn't bother me if others dont think its hot who wants to be like everyone else.
IMO, a Panerai should not have a date window. When I view their current range, so many are untouchable because of the date window. The submersible 42mm models are quite handsome, but again, made untouchable by the ugly date windows unbalancing the dials.
I think they are overrated and I have one.
Panerai f#cked itself with ridiculous “limited editions” and way overpriced production pieces...the latest epic fail is the use of spring bars and snap-on casebacks....absolutely ridiculous...no wonder the brand is in a tail spin. #epicfail
Just bought a pam00118 . Please let me know more about it … as it seems very rare and can’t find many reviews
Its simple, I have 6-7k budget…. Tudor Black Bay, Breitling Avenger etc etc… Panerai starts at 10k… Why?
Panerai starts at $5000... but i suggest looking at 2015 or older, they are better imo than the current line up
Great collection....
From an aesthetic perspective Panerai is definitely unique and fun. And given their prices on the secondary market, definitely worth a try. The only concern is whether or not these will be considered unfashionable in five years time.
thing is the luminor design has been around for quite some time and panerai was quite popular in the last decade, i think panerai's design has its niche
I never liked them, but recent years have softened my opinion. Now, I want one. Funny how tastes change.
Just purchased the GMT only complaint is the stated obvious 'Power Reserve' prefer this was not typed on face to keep it more simple. Be nice if they sold with options!
Very very nice collection!
I havent touched my watches since the pandemic, until now. I missed wearing my pam 590, now i cant take it out of my wrist!