Okinawa Karate Goju Ryu - Zenei Oshiro sensei
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- ⛩️ DVD Karate Goju-Ryu Okinawa avec Zenei Oshiro sensei
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Au programme : 10 katas - Bunkai - Kihon - Sanbon et Ippon Kumite
Zenei Oshiro sensei est 8e dan Karaté Goju Ryu et Kobudo - Expert fédéral de la FFKarate
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Sensei Oshiro is a very great Master.
GOJU RYU and shotokan are my favourite styles of Karate :D
This impressive watching this video is impressive martial arts can work painted how is performed and how you do well with it it all depends on the skill and technique as long as you do it right so long as you take command take control and most of the tick control you got to knock them down you got to try to hit them hard got to get them before they get you it's impressive an amazing what you can do with your body when you get the upper hand on your opponent and how you use your body is a tool of amazing power 🥋💪😉👍🥋
greetings to sensei oshiro. from dieter, switzerland
I ordered the DVD's out of curiosity. The DVD includes English and Spanish subtitles.
Most of the stuff is at a basic level, but well explained. Oshiro moves very well and is fun to watch.
The Goju DVD only goes through Seiunchin because he includes several Shodokan training kata in it.
Saifa and Seiunchin include basic bunkai and a few variations. Gekisais are also included. DVD covers basics, kakie (both types of hand movement), and some ideas on kumite. A section on Sanchin is included.
very nice
your right shito ryu is from shuri and naha te, and the point was raised cause there was a guy there from a shurite school, and the sensei at this particular dojo(no dojo mentioned)advised this guy that he should concentrate on one or the other, cause firstly there are so many kata to learn, shuri and naha kata, that youre missing out on the finer points of the kata, also the conditioning necesary to apply the moves effectively. i personally think this is a valid point.
I after see this video wished to train Goju-Ryu. Its amazing!!
I love Goju. Thats where kyokushin originated. Its very similar
@ronin752 youre right about the sport thing its a bloody mokery of real karate!!!
I cant believe that people have the time to argue on the internet?! Go train outside and maybe then you will learn something and then maybe your ego can then be happy and proud about something. PEACE TO ALL. Share knowledge not hatred.
Yes this looks like Goju. I noticed him doing washuki in a clip. Also noted his Mai Geri and jodan uke among other Goju techniques. Good martial art. Ive studied that and jui jitsu for about a year. We do kumite and also self defense which has not as much to do with formal Goju techniques. More a hybrid of the two styles.
@SteveFusionX Finally someone gets it real karate is for killing not sport. you explained it very well my man
yeah.that is the real goju ryu:D
this is my fight stlye:D
That's great!
impressive DVD
rigid stances... impressive work.. a lot of fluidity as well mix with power....too much circle ...nice one
Just wanted to add. Even though I'm in the US, the DVD's come in PAL format so must be viewed on a computer.
@IEKUKATAKA muy buena definición Sensei ...
cool!
Lyota Machita is the truth he is a str8 technician for those of you who dont know a thing about traditional karate, it hard to beat a striker an a real Martial artist, there is just to many people out there who say they know martial arts but dont, thats why there is so much confusion
@IEKUKATAKA You are right again but hear me out. You are phenomenal, you. The style is what defines you but it is not what controls you. You are the one doing the kicks, punches, throws. Not the style. The style is letters and words. The human being using it is what is special and unique. Someone using Tae Kwon Do can feel the same as you do without ever learning Karate. It's never been about a better style, just better techniques. I respect you though I am young, and thank you for the time.
true, to be an effective fighter, or to be able to defend yourself kata is not required, maybe its to preserve the tradition, maybe its curiosity about katas, theres so much research been done by people like morio higaonna, taira masaji, patrick mccarthy, theres got to be some kind of magisc that keeps people wanting to learn more about kata, to me as an individual i first got interested in goju ryu when i saw morio higaonna in way of the warrior, before that karate looked like a game of tag.
Some practitioners say karate doesn't work,looks effective to me
@IEKUKATAKA That was a fantastic explanation. Really, I have never heard someone put it that way. Yeah you are right with that one. The only problem I have with it is, what if the technique that you have as reflex now fails? It is a reaction that if fails, can put you in a very dangerous disadvantage point. You should always practice different scenarios and exit strategies live. Otherwise all of that muscle memory will end you instead of protect you
ok, i am agree with you, sorry for my wrong opinion. Ofcourse we can learn from each other.
when i was in okinawa recently, many people felt that you cant mix nahate and shurite, cause the emphasis is to different?
@deek77 I agree entirely. That should be the foundation of every serious school. However many assume that a technique with 12 different sets practiced over and over is enough to save their life. The technique doesn't do anything except help the person understand what he is capable of with knowledge. The person needs more then a technique to be capable in a fight. If anyone disagrees then they have never been tested properly.
@majin2912 Of course, it is Goju-Ryu, it becomes more than obvious by the kata he performs.
I never see any karate as fast as 0:59, any more videos of karate being done in real time?
i think more than 50 percent of the dojos throughout the world do not know real karate, they teach sport karate. the dojo i trained at in okinawa really opened my eyes to real practical karate training, most the emphasis at this dojo was power generation from a short range, the kata even looked different, it looked effective, not pretty like in tournaments.
i do know what you mean about the muscle memory thing, is this the reason you stopped doing kata, or have you found an alternative way?
@IEKUKATAKA
Take the negative comment, use its energy to improve your practice, and move on.
@bryanzellar Hey friend, been following your kata discussion. In my experience, real karate schools worth mentioning realize just hitting air is not enough. Many of the old masters strongly advocated supplemental training, or hojo undo, in karate training. That meant free weights, bodyweight exercise, running, jump rope, stretching, impact drills where either you hit something or something hits you, etc. Some schools neglect this, and sadly they tend to get the most attention.
Jiujutsu most likely comes from the same place as the Japanese writing and style of dress prior to the 15th century, China.
0:49 HADOUKEN XD
Hey the sensei have a little look like Takuma Sagazaki from king of fighters games
@IEKUKATAKA
I am a traditional karateka, like you. Why argue with them? I think because in may ways these MMA guys are striking at the truth (like my choice of words, hahaha). Practicing kata alone will not improve one's ability to fight. However, many good mma guys realize that practicing fighting alone will not improve one's chances on the street. These are all games. Some simulate different aspects of self-defense, but all fall short. The key is to see the common thread, and apply.
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shito ryu has all/most the kata from goju and shotokan, however these two styles have a different approach to fighting, the movements in goju are fluid with narrow stances, shotokan/shorin ryu have more wider stances and a more linear approach, so according to okinawans(no names mentioned)you cant mix the two from a combative point of view.
Way of the hard an soft baby thats how we do it
Well, first of all, that depends on what you mean by the word "like." I tend to look at the principles that bind arts, and not the seeds that divide them. Of course, the Naha kata have a more direct link to the Chinese arts. As far as the "hard" nature of karate, it, to me, resembles the Southern Shaolin arts. An example would be the connection between Tensho and the Sil lum tao of Wing Chun.
i dont know how its taught in shurite, as ive never practiced it, i was just passing on a goju senseis point of view, i think shito ryu has about 45 kata compared to goju ryus 12/13, then theres the hojo undo, the kakie, makiwara training, the bunkai, also the time taken to become proficient at all these practices, how would you do all this with 45 kata, seems like your becoming more of a dictionary of naha and shuri kata, rather than learning how to actually apply the technique within the kata.
@IEKUKATAKA Well it's good to see you agree with me. lol Yes Kumite is awesome. It helps build technique, limits injury, and gives you live combat feelings. what I have to disagree with is where you say; preparation, focus,attitude, and spirit are all in Okinawn Karate. That is false. They are withing the individual using the style, they are not in the style itself because man is living and always growing and evolving. a style remains a style nothing more. You use it not the other way around.
No wonder my father is good in self defense
Heihachi Mishima
Goju ryu..
@IEKUKATAKA Then exactly where do real Karate come from? I've heard that it came from both Jujitsu and Chinese Kung Fu being collaborated together to form Karate.
i do kyokushin n just curious, hows the style in goju ryu like?
@wushus16 Yeah, I can't remember the definition we used but it was just a set of movements learned to teach openings and fluidity, and flexibility, and strength, It helped our bodies and minds in various ways. But if someone punched us in the face, we would cover up and start fighting like a girl lol. Only after training and competing in our monthly kumite did we show confidence and proper technique in a fight situation.
Another would be the white crane systems and Sanchin.
Secondly, I am quite sure of my lineage, and I am sure it is directly from Okinawa. We could discuss it more, but I won't do so directly on this forum, as I think there is far too much division amongst Okinawan stylist. So, while Okinawan karate has its distinct charater, it is undeniably heavily influenced by China.
@IEKUKATAKA Yeah I know, but I'm going to keep saying he was really as amazing as the legend states because I am a huge fan. :) Besides, he of all people, should have existed. There is a lot to learn from his Myth that can better human beings. And my views are similar to Okinawan because my Sensei taught me well. He has been around the world and he knows his shit. Okinawan karate is not; when the kids are done, let's go get pizza; Karate. lol. Okinawan Karate is the real deal and I respect that.
As an Okinawan karateka I have to disagree. While there was originally Okinawan Ti, the codification of karate into kata was Chinese influence, as also were many principles of karate. The original name of karate was Todi, or China hand. Definitely China was a huge influence on karate. Jujutsu is one aspect of complete martial arts, which primarily focuses on Chin Na, Tuite, or joint control. The influence of both karate and jujustu is from China, hence the similarities.
@singhakabuttar
You are wrong about shorin ryu. Shorin has shorter stances and is not linear at all. The kata seem to be linear, so do goju for that matter, but they really are not. The unfortunate thing is that Okinawan karate, even in Okinawa, is being influenced by sport karate, which demands wide stances and linear movement.
Many Okinawans systems are hybrids of Naha, Shuri and Tomari kata. Not sure what Okinawan said that, but there wasn't any goju or shorin historically.
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@wushus16 Lol, that's ok. Well if you remember just tell me if you want. And I didn't exactly mean that it is unimportant. Just it has to be trained properly. I don't think doing thousands of precise movements in the air can replace hitting a bag, mitt work, or actual fighting. If a person only does kata without understanding real fighting then they might as well be learning how to dance. I think that is what I was saying or trying to at least.
@IEKUKATAKA And What I meant by Bruce Lee is that, he was young, rash, and had different thinking. a lot like Einstein, and he proved that knowing only one style or learning only certain techniques limits you and can also weaken you if the style chosen isn't a good fit for your body type. Somebody 250 lbs won't fight the same as somebody 150 lbs. My point is, katas are ineffective because attacking air isn't like attacking a person. And one style means one defense. It better be a perfect style.
@IEKUKATAKA So you're saying that jujitsu and kung fu are the product of okinawan karate?
Oshiro sensei belongs to which Association?
He is following the Okinawa Shodokan Goju-Ryu Association and keep on studying under KIYUNA Choyu sensei (disciple of HIGA Seiko sensei)
@IEKUKATAKA I don't care what the west thinks or what the east thinks. In my opinion, you are a good martial artist if you can walk away with your life when someone threatens it. For me, I'm not out for perfection I am out for protection. I'll agree though, the west is all about what looks good and what sells. It tarnishes all that is martial arts. The spirituality from them are all but lost in the West. And I think the Natives are divided out of hate for Musashi. He had that effect. haha
@IEKUKATAKA I heavily doubt that you have herd of him although he is very respected and wise. He is American, his name is Barry Bernsten. He is the only man that I have met in person and viewed as the "real deal" when it comes to Karate. A lot of phoneys out there.
@HermannTheGreat which comment are you responding to?
@IEKUKATAKA They called Musashi barbaric too, and the Spartans. Kinda funny how uneducated brutes can go down in history as the greatest warriors of all time. It's not about being macho. If I need to learn how to swim how am I going to practice? By staying on land? You don't have the psychological connection you need until you are experiencing the thing you are training. Yes life is very good. But your as good as dead if you can't perform technique due to fear.
@wushus16 What's your opinion man, I'm always up for discussion if you would like to share your thoughts.
It came from Ngo Cho Kun.
Goju-Ryu yeah yeah nice, but i prefer Ngo Cho Kun kung fu
Sry your kata's are based on fighting.... Kata's are just as important as learning to a punch or kick.
Okinawan looks kinda different than the real Japanese
@IEKUKATAKA I suppose Bruce Lee flip flopped then? Yeah your right, that will get you nowhere. Do repetitions a thousand times a day instead and never branch out from one style. Musashi was a brute as well who couldn't fight traditionally so your right. Had Musashi trained in one area he would have been so much better. Okinawan Karate is awesome, but kata improves very little. Live combat is what matters. Until you learn how to fight, you can't. Bruce was young too. Don't think that mattered.
@IEKUKATAKA If Musashi wasn't real then how does he have descendants of his style, and who might have killed all of those Swordsmen in his time and what about the book he wrote that I own. I'll agree, technique training is a must but kata? maybe you don't understand what I am speaking of. Practicing a technique over and over is good, dancing is not. And yes you can train real combat just wear proper protection. Have the guy attack you and then practice real reflex.
In defense of Kata, the mindless repetition of kata is not koryu or "old system" kata. The mindless repetition of kata is a modern invention, and done through heavily politicized forms of art. MOST kata done in the modern world is genbudo, or modern art. And you are right, it will get you nowhere.
Bruce's Jeet Kune Do follows the same mindset as Shu Ha Ri. The concept was around long before Bruce. Bruce just introducted practical Chinese concepts to the west.
@BluePittbull666 you obiously dont know anything, george st pierre is a karate man, and so is lyota machiita both ufc champions they mix it with brazilain jiu jitsu, but i have seen Lyota knock people out with a straight punch from the hip from his Karate
@BluePittbull666
I can't tell if your comment was supposed to be funny or not.
Why on earth would you do a kata in a "real fight" in the first place?
It's like saying "hitting a boxing bag is useless in a real fight" - each has their purpose.
and "pro MMA" is a competitive sport, not self defense - two different topics with completely different rules and dynamics.
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@IEKUKATAKA Spartans were real right? Sun Tzu what about him? Vikings? Indians? Ninjas? Look there is more evidence today that Musashi lived and he did it by dissecting styles. Just like Bruce Lee. Are you going to say Bruce didn't exist either? or are you going to say he was a lousy martial artist?