It's nice to see you working the way most people have to, no lift and laying on the floor. Goes the show you don't need fancy equipment to do high quality custom work.
Honestly as a diesel mechanic working on semi trucks I don't know many shops that actually have truck lyfts. Everything I do is on the floor clutches differential reseal engine over hauls brakes suspension. I'm talking semi trucks like Peterbuilt kenworth freightliner. Honestly working on the ground is actually easier then a stupid lyft. it's also faster then a lyft anyone that thinks mechanics working in a shop is easy is clearly inexperienced. I mean most mechanics do side jobs on the weekends and when me as a diesel mechanic I do road calls out of a tiny truck meaning I fix the trucks that break down on the side of the road. Most mechanics while doing side jobs generally don't have air compressor or a lyft we do it the same way as any other person just trying to get their car running the difference is we have much more knowledge on how to work without fancy shit I mean primitive tools. There was a time when lyfts didn't exist ND u just worked on the cars cus it's fun
@@alfredoibarra9825 Same.. Mine were on my head under my colorado im ls swapping and a random waterfall of fuel came out of the feed line into my eye hahaha
Im glad you explain in detail the trials and tribulations, the decision making process etc. great video. Im working towards 80e and AWD swapping my own 03 RCSB 4x4 and watching your videos gives me a little what to expect when i dig into my own project. Thanks man
@banginracing awesome. I didn't know if the manual tcase front differential was any different from the electric tcase. Was hoping I would just need the nvg149 and the front driveshaft. Not the front differential
It's the bcm. You should be able to unplug everything 4wd, yank every 4wd fuse, including the front diff fuse, and disconnect the battery for 10 min. When it powers back on and sees nothing from 4wd it then ignores it from then on. Same deal with the 2500 burbs auto ride. It's fully electric, not air, and has to have a ton unplugged, removed, etc. If you don't do the bat reset it goes into theft mode.
all joking aside you know this for a fact? does it also disable all the 4wd codes that will be thrown or does it actually disable the entire system alltogether and the ecm and bcm just play along and not store codes for missing modules, actuator codes etc etc? and what years is this verified on? seriously interested. is this like the 10,10,10 trick to "reprogram" gm ecus from the junkyards into another car without having to get the key programmed,vin number and all that jazz? i also heard you can do the 10,10,10 trick and as soon as you start the car/truck for the very first time and you yank the bcm plugs really quickly and it basically just turns off security alltogether .. havent verified that last one yet but i did hear something like that.
@@gregthemechanicman I know it for a fact. I've done it for the 2500 suburbans on 5 2000 to 2002s. First one I did went into theft mode. You can also reprogram the bcm with the rpo codes using a tech 2 and you don't need to worry about the trick. However the trick only works for deleting things, if you add something to the system it has to be programmed in or all hell breaks loose. I was explained by a gm tech it was designed as a failsafe mode that when all signals are lost from an onboard system, if in an emergency, you can do this to get it home.
@@davemcdaniel4856 Yup! I’m a GM tech too. When things are taken out that the bum is programmed for, it doesn’t like it. Some of the older bcms, you can use the tech 2 to unselect options thus fixing any issues from removing or unplugging components.
LT, I really miss the real Power Block and all you guys doing the projects, I looked forward to it every Saturday. I am stoked I found your channel and have been a faithful fan ever since. One of my favorite projects was Project Red Tide, this truck is a perfect homage to it! Cant wait to see how you do at LS Fest, Keep up the great work!
I'm actually happy to see you working on your back, under the truck like normies. The vloggers that buy lifts and say, "See, you can do it to", are just so uninspiring. What you're doing is truly inspiring even if one doesn't have a garage.
This reminds me of a truck GM High Tech Horespower mag did in the early 2000's. It was a plain white truck and hurt a lot of feelings. The transfer case was the awd/denali style.
I had a 2004 SSS and loved that truck. I always felt GM missed an opportunity when they did not make a SCSB SSS. I excited for you over this build it hold a special fondness for me! Good luck and I hope the transfer case goes on as easy when you get your 4L80 swap in.
@tjmoneybags hes saying 2004 SSS ( It's Silverado SS) they were Awd. General motors missed the chance to produce a SCSB (Single Cab Short Bed) SSS ( Silverado SS).
Love the fact you are still laying on your back and doing work like 85 % of us are good stuff should be killer ,I have a 93 gen 4 I've thought would be killer all wheel drive
My pro charged Silverado SS AWD is amazing. First AWD truck I have had. I put Nokian snows on it and it is a rally car in snow while hauling my sled in the bed.
This truck is slowly but surely becoming bad ass. This channel should be way bigger than it is, mabey a collaboration with other TH-camrs would get it out there🇺🇲🏁
I've been wanting to get a Tech 2 myself. I heard the Chinese ones are just as good as the name brand ones. I have enough GM vehicles that it's worth owning one. Also, I've found that key on(10 mins), key off (10 mins), key on (10 mins) then off and start sometimes will clear security issues that I can't work around with HP Tuners!
When I did my manual transfer case swap in my 2000 Silverado, I grabbed the harness from the fuse box to the transfer case from the donor truck. Then you don't have all the plugs possibly wrapping up in the front shaft and/or ugly zip ties
About 11 minutes in... I can remember similar struggles with the transfer case remove and replace I did on my 2003 Silverado SS. Arm up over the frame brace, saying "OK,,,, rrrrrppppp eeeeeppppp oooooorrrrrgggghhhh, WHEW!" It was like watching myself back in time LOL! Have fun!!!
Gotta love the random security light on those years. Seems like all the warning messsages are on a random pattern to make it seem like it’s actually thinking, or it’s just the top notch electronics sensors randomly “working”.
I never questioned why as for a long time I've wanted to create a modern Typhoon out of a Blazer Xtreme as I never thought I'd have gotten an actual Typhoon. Swapping the 2wd frame for a 4x4 Blazer Zr2 frame and converting to AWD, turbo'ing the 4.3L V6 and even try using the GMC Jimmy headlights and grill with the Xtreme bumper. Although now I have my Typhoon.
Salúdame, Te conocí por PowerNation en Español 🤭 en especial por el vídeo del Viper vs F-150 ambas Tuneadas, Me encanta tu programa (en español) porque aprendes de automóviles pero bien explicado paso a paso, Otro ejemplo cuando construyeron el Camaro 92, Muy buenos programas, El que más me encantó fue el de la Ram 3500 modificada porque no cualquiera le mete mano a un Diesel para correrlo en competición para meterle 1000 hp
2500/3500 frames are only missing a couple front mounting brackets. Converting from auto to manual is very easy. Already got 4 conversions done and still on the road. Yes cruise still works
@@sethh8892 NV4500, it can bolt up to the 6.0L/ 5.3: engine block. This same transmission also bolts up to the die hard Cummins 5.9L. Very easy to self rebuild the transmission. You just need to make sure you get a NV4500 that is setup for GM applications. Also make sure to get the cross member for the manual. T56 is good if your aim is a fast cruiser/ burnout maker.
@Lawrence LT Tolman @@sethh8892 with these years the gear ratios 4L80E compared to NV4500. 4L80E ratios : 1: 2.482 2: 1.482 3: 1.00 4: 0.75 R: 2.077 NV4500 gear ratios 1st = 5.61 2nd = 3.04 3rd = 1.67 4th = 1.00 5th = 0.75 R = 5.04 Manual can work with heavier loads than automatics. With a manual trans the system can operate without issue just running 110amp alternator. Automatic systems need 130amp+ alternators. Engine will also run cooler as it is not having to cool the trans as well. Compared to automatic no power is lost between engine and the tires. You don't have to worry about automatic doing the shift panic when you are between gear hauling going uphill. If you plan on staying with the 4L80E then do every cooling upgrade you can. Two to four quart extra capacity aluminum deep dish pan for transmission. These upgrades work for me; Tru-cool model# 47391 , Cool Case model # GMT569A , TSI model# 4L80DPK-A .
@@frostybandit1 I'm pretty sure there is power lost between the engine and the rear tires regardless of what style of transmission your you use, this is simply due to basic laws of thermodynamics. There is always heat generated from the transmission and therefore that means there is energy transfer, which means there is energy lost from the load of the trans. But I can definitely see a manual transmission being more efficient, as it's not relying on fluids, only direct gearing.
@@frostybandit1 Also, this is going to be for a race application. I've never heard of the NV4500, do GM vehicles have these stock? Or are they just conversion kits?
On the security problem. Depending on what the computer seen. You have to go through so many valid key operations. Basically just use the factory key multiple times starting and driving it. But this is the coolest truck being built on the net right now. Good job on it.
When you were replacing the 4x4 switch with that little opening, I was wondering if you may have forced an issue by unplugging while the key was on. Not sure at all, but that's what I was thinking.
I believe you can set that light to no error reported with VATs disabled and the security light should go off. Maybe I am misremembering but I think that is how I did that. I assume you pulled the battery cables for a couple hours?
red tide inspired me to do a AWD conversion on my 98 k1500. sourced a escalade fron carrier assembly and escalade tfr case cheap. question, could i just swap the passenger side axle carrier for the one off the 4x4 tfr case so i dont need to build a custom mount?
@@LawrenceTolman An update. Swapping the axle housing worked! Just got the install finished today with an NP149 i found cheap. Front shaft came from an escalade donor. Needed the shifting bracket bent to clear but it seems to work well. Thanks for all the information!
Awesome! That’s probrably my next phase . Belltech sway bars ( for the ss) we’re a huge improvement on my 4x4 crew cab I think with the 800 lbs less weight of your truck they would be a good bit better
with that GM communications network if I remember right, there is a start and an end. I think some networks loop, but anyways with that if you delete a module from the network depending on where it is in the network you might end up deleting another modules communication to the network or even several modules by accident then also some modules need to be reflashed to no longer communicate with the module you have deleted. all modules still connected to the network will set codes saying they have lost communication with the modules disconnected and the modules disconnected will not communicate because they no longer have a path to the data link connector. it sounds like you have a broken link in your communication chain and that may be fine for what your doing or you might run into communication issues. pull up a diagram of the communication network and see if anything has to pass through the 4x4 module.
If I have a 4x4 with a floor shift and 5speed manual trans, if I were to do this conversion would I be able to shift from 2/Rwd to Awd with the floor shifter..??
dumb question: is the advantage of AWD vs 4WD because the front wheels can rotate at different speeds while turning when you use AWD? I always wondered why a 4WD drive truck binds up like that when you go to make a turn? thanks for making these cool videos
No such thing as dumb questions, but yes, the primary advantage of awd if that the front and rear wheels can move at different speeds which means no binding on dry pavement
4wd tcases are always 50/50, even if a 4wd has an open diff, it can still bind. That's why awd systems that can do 50/50 only do it when needed, like STi's, Evo's, Lambos. The front wheels on an awd are more or less overdriven, so to speak. That's how the Christini dirtbike works, and why it's awd, and not 2wd, like a Rokon.
Most likely something going on in the bcm on the passenger side, did you check hpt to see if there's any function to disable 4x4 settings? Semi easy fix might be to swap the bcm and ignition of of the same year non 4x4 or awd truck
Do you know if the AWD donor happened to have the same wire harness as the 4WD? I want to go the opposite route and swap a 2 speed transfer case, switch, etc into a 2007 AWD Denali. I’m hoping GM used the same harness and just left the wires taped up behind the dash. Maybe swap the tccm and some reprogramming.
I think the procedure to relearn key is key on for 10 mins then cycle switch to off repeat 3 times. The truck prob saw 3 successful key cycles then reset its self. Ignition switches are kinda finiky. Awesome swap! My wife loves her 03 Denali 6.0 awd
That's a bit of heavy lifting from the floor 💪 😳 ouch. But worth every but of effort put into the project once done. 4:30 ratio is pretty good for the 4l60e. Not sure what 1st gear is for 4l80 but I bet it's a good ratio. Have a good week !
Did you figure out how to get the security light to go off? I got a truck from my buddy that has this issue. Turned off the the vats with hp tuners but like you I still have that security light on. It drains my battery if I don't use the truck every day. I don't have any key fobs for it. I've been just disconnecting the battery every night.
You losing your hair is a side effect of being a god dammn genius you are a legend LT . this single cab build was epic bro that root supercharger sounds so freaking mean I love that wind
Hello Sir. Love your channel. Is it possible to run front diffential with the mloc like you did on the the c10 with awd transfer case for a 2014 silverado 1500 5.3L z71 lt.
If it has keyless entry, close the doors, push the lock button in the fob. Then push the unlock button. Open the door put the key in and allow it to read the chip 30 seconds or so. Then start it. I’ve used this to help a few people with GM vehicles with the security lights.
Wow still has the original front rotors i see. Only last a few years up here in the northeast. I would replace those bearings in the AWD front diff and check the threaded adjustment locks. They always go bad in the AWD vehicles somewhere after 100k and ruin a case half when they spin out.
Are you going to be able to control the power or Torque ratio for front and rear diffs. Like 40% in the front diff and 60% in the rear? What generation Denali did you get the awd parts from?
Are there a lot of folks swapping to AWD? My mom has an ‘04 AWD Burb. 3rd/4th went out of the 4L60E. Engine runs great. 155k and I know the full history on it. Planning to rob it for my ‘88 K5. Trying to figure out what I want to waste time parting out. I’m assuming swapping to AWD is a way too complex of a process to even think about for a straight axle rig. Would I be in good shape to have the 4l60 built while it’s our or plan to try to secure an 80e? Wanting reliable. Decent cruiser, that can navigate a hunting logging road once in a while. Not a crawler or speed demon by no means. It’ll remain by babied K5. Exploring a Cummins 6BT swap in my ‘85 CUCV (M1009) Blazer and ditching the 6.2 Detroit. It has a turbo 400 but I’m wanting to go overdrive auto. So I’m leaning toward a 4L80e for it too, to use with a controller. Any feedback would be appreciated! Enjoy your channel 👊🏼 Recap: •Is there a market for me to sell my AWD hardware off? •Build up the 60e to go back behind the 5.3 going into K5 (currently TBI), or find a 4L80e? • secure a second 4L80e for the Cummins swap from 6.2Diesel.
So I had seen one of your previous videos where you stated what vehicles had the right t case. I found, and aquired the t case from an 05 escalade. Planing to put it in my 2000 silverado behind a 4l80e (I know that requires some modification) . But the t case I got is actually a bw4481. Will this still work like the nv149? Or am I better off calling it a loss and paying alot more for an nv149?
the 4481 isn't as good as the NV149, it will work exactly like an open diff in a rear axle. there is a chance it will send all the power to the front or back at some points.
So i now know you could swap that out, is it possible to swap a single cab n bed to a cadillac escalde frame with the all with AWD setup.? I been wondering if it possible or not.
More than likely your theft deterrent problem is due to you moving the column to remove the 4wd switch. There are 3 small wires that plug into the sensor at the lock cylinder case and they will cause issues. You MAY be able to find the issue at the terminals where they go into the connectors, check both ends. Honestly I never actually FOUND the issue, I would just always replace the ignition switch which comes with that harness.
The coupler in that transfer case is a bear to find. I had mine rebuilt by a guy on ebay and it has been working perfectly for the past 5 years since the rebuild. It only needed rebuild because the chains had stretched and needed replaced.
Did I see one of your Silverado videos where you deleted the Front axle 4WD actuator instead of replacing the front differential? Uses a plug of some type? Thanks
yup, on Truck Tech we showed an option using something called a 4x4 Perm Lock (or something like that). Basically, it locks in the shift collar to keep the passenger side axle locked in place, effectively doing the same thing.
Hey LT. Long time listener, first time caller. Hey man quick question about the AWD conversion. When you swapped the front diff and transfer case, it looks like there would be a few wire connectors that are unused in the new setup. What did you do with the leftover wire connections? Currently doing the exact same conversion on my 03 Tahoe LT
Haha well I watched again and see where you answered it in the vid. Sorry. But there were 2 vss connections on the transfer case that would be unused. You just kinda tucking that wiring away up there or?
That pocket that you put in there would be a great place to put the stock 01-02 escalade traction control button... use it as a momentary switch with a latching relay for a scramble button or something.
I have an 88 Chevy Stepside I want to air ride lay frame and go all wheel drive. I bought a 94 Z71 I'm stripping for the frame. The main issue is making the driveline work. I am also swapping the rear suspension to an independent suspension. The reason for the IRS is suspension travel without having to add the large hump in my bed. This will make the bed appear stock while still allowing the truck the lay low and even lay out at the show. I also have a 98 Dually that wont stay running. All it will do is start then die in a second. The engine and transmission was swapped from another truck.
FYI If the transfer case has any kind of clutch pack in it it probably uses ATF for oil. If it’s purely gears and or chains it will likely use gear oil same as a differential. Putting atf in both types probably won’t do any harm as long as you change it quickly enough but putting gear oil in an ATF type might kill the clutch packs. Also some additives will kill the clutches.
Luckily on the NV149, there are no clutches, the awd is controlled by a sealed viscous coupler. It uses a silicone based fluid to operate but is not serviceable and does not interact with the lube inside the transfer case.
This FYI was just a heads up to everyone to be careful and not mistakenly kill their transfer case. Similar advice applies to diffs and gearboxes especially CVTs.
It is even possible that moving things around in the dash to get the switch damaged the wiring to the antitheft. So it may not even be a program issue, the truck is of legal drinking age you know.
@@LawrenceTolman , id still take it over a 08 and newer. I have two 06s and love them to death. Hell the Silverado 5.3 has 400k miles on it and runs like a dream
It's nice to see you working the way most people have to, no lift and laying on the floor. Goes the show you don't need fancy equipment to do high quality custom work.
Without safety glasses too! Always regret it when the odd piece of debris makes it’s way into my eye/s but still don’t wear them. 😆
Honestly as a diesel mechanic working on semi trucks I don't know many shops that actually have truck lyfts. Everything I do is on the floor clutches differential reseal engine over hauls brakes suspension. I'm talking semi trucks like Peterbuilt kenworth freightliner. Honestly working on the ground is actually easier then a stupid lyft. it's also faster then a lyft anyone that thinks mechanics working in a shop is easy is clearly inexperienced. I mean most mechanics do side jobs on the weekends and when me as a diesel mechanic I do road calls out of a tiny truck meaning I fix the trucks that break down on the side of the road. Most mechanics while doing side jobs generally don't have air compressor or a lyft we do it the same way as any other person just trying to get their car running the difference is we have much more knowledge on how to work without fancy shit I mean primitive tools. There was a time when lyfts didn't exist ND u just worked on the cars cus it's fun
Other than the expensive scan tool he doesn't have to diagnose and fix the electronic issue...
@@alfredoibarra9825 Same.. Mine were on my head under my colorado im ls swapping and a random waterfall of fuel came out of the feed line into my eye hahaha
Like they work in India. The oil contaminating the water system. Eventually, it all ends up in the water system.
so glad the AWD conversion is finally done. Who all is going to LS Fest in Vegas next week?
Ill be there
Im glad you explain in detail the trials and tribulations, the decision making process etc. great video.
Im working towards 80e and AWD swapping my own 03 RCSB 4x4 and watching your videos gives me a little what to expect when i dig into my own project.
Thanks man
If the transfer case is manual with stick on the floor can the original 4x4 front differential work?
@@Pitman556 yea that would be the oem set up, floor shift t case is meant for a 4WD front diff
@banginracing awesome. I didn't know if the manual tcase front differential was any different from the electric tcase. Was hoping I would just need the nvg149 and the front driveshaft. Not the front differential
It's the bcm. You should be able to unplug everything 4wd, yank every 4wd fuse, including the front diff fuse, and disconnect the battery for 10 min. When it powers back on and sees nothing from 4wd it then ignores it from then on. Same deal with the 2500 burbs auto ride. It's fully electric, not air, and has to have a ton unplugged, removed, etc. If you don't do the bat reset it goes into theft mode.
all joking aside you know this for a fact? does it also disable all the 4wd codes that will be thrown or does it actually disable the entire system alltogether and the ecm and bcm just play along and not store codes for missing modules, actuator codes etc etc? and what years is this verified on? seriously interested.
is this like the 10,10,10 trick to "reprogram" gm ecus from the junkyards into another car without having to get the key programmed,vin number and all that jazz?
i also heard you can do the 10,10,10 trick and as soon as you start the car/truck for the very first time and you yank the bcm plugs really quickly and it basically just turns off security alltogether .. havent verified that last one yet but i did hear something like that.
@@gregthemechanicman I know it for a fact. I've done it for the 2500 suburbans on 5 2000 to 2002s. First one I did went into theft mode. You can also reprogram the bcm with the rpo codes using a tech 2 and you don't need to worry about the trick. However the trick only works for deleting things, if you add something to the system it has to be programmed in or all hell breaks loose. I was explained by a gm tech it was designed as a failsafe mode that when all signals are lost from an onboard system, if in an emergency, you can do this to get it home.
@@davemcdaniel4856 Yup! I’m a GM tech too. When things are taken out that the bum is programmed for, it doesn’t like it. Some of the older bcms, you can use the tech 2 to unselect options thus fixing any issues from removing or unplugging components.
LT, I really miss the real Power Block and all you guys doing the projects, I looked forward to it every Saturday. I am stoked I found your channel and have been a faithful fan ever since. One of my favorite projects was Project Red Tide, this truck is a perfect homage to it! Cant wait to see how you do at LS Fest, Keep up the great work!
Wow I just realized he was on powerblock with Stacey
They have a channel on Roku
@@lawabidingdad I don't think he actually worked with Stacey. Stacey left in the mid00s, right before Jesse and Ian started Extreme 4x4.
Correct, never worked with Stacey, but heard plenty of stories!
I chuckled at the "Don't spill" when you nearly flipped the drain pain over.
I'm actually happy to see you working on your back, under the truck like normies. The vloggers that buy lifts and say, "See, you can do it to", are just so uninspiring. What you're doing is truly inspiring even if one doesn't have a garage.
Man, I can't wait to see this thing rip! That is an ideal build for a mini truck. Hope the times clean up with the AWD Swap!
There was a channel like two years ago that did an awd and manual swap on an s10. You can get a lsd for those, too.
I'm excited to see how many neutrals the 4l60 comes home with. Lol
As long as I can make one or two good passes down the quarter mile, I can winch it on the trailer for all I care
@@LawrenceTolman full send is what I like to hear!! Good luck 👍
It'll probably have pnnnn.
My bet is on PNN3N1 for gears. The sun shell is a known weakness.
This reminds me of a truck GM High Tech Horespower mag did in the early 2000's. It was a plain white truck and hurt a lot of feelings. The transfer case was the awd/denali style.
I had a 2004 SSS and loved that truck. I always felt GM missed an opportunity when they did not make a SCSB SSS. I excited for you over this build it hold a special fondness for me! Good luck and I hope the transfer case goes on as easy when you get your 4L80 swap in.
I don't understand your abbreviations. Can you explain?
@tjmoneybags hes saying 2004 SSS ( It's Silverado SS) they were Awd. General motors missed the chance to produce a SCSB (Single Cab Short Bed) SSS ( Silverado SS).
Love the fact you are still laying on your back and doing work like 85 % of us are good stuff should be killer ,I have a 93 gen 4 I've thought would be killer all wheel drive
Guys this guy mean business no joke and most of his job is better than buying new parts when he make his own parts
I know it sucks not to have any shop ninjas finish certain things,but I like seeing all the little parts helps me with my own conversion. Thanks LT.
My pro charged Silverado SS AWD is amazing. First AWD truck I have had. I put Nokian snows on it and it is a rally car in snow while hauling my sled in the bed.
My arms are shoulders are sore just watching you. Good work👍🏿
I had never even heard of the viscous coupler AWD transfer case till I looked it up to see how it works. Fascinating stuff.
I'm attempting to do this exact swap now. It's there any reason to not leave the gearing as 373?
This truck is slowly but surely becoming bad ass. This channel should be way bigger than it is, mabey a collaboration with other TH-camrs would get it out there🇺🇲🏁
Very cool LT can’t wait to see how it is with that conversion and the new wrap
Killer build! I've been watching every episode of it
I've been wanting to get a Tech 2 myself. I heard the Chinese ones are just as good as the name brand ones. I have enough GM vehicles that it's worth owning one.
Also, I've found that key on(10 mins), key off (10 mins), key on (10 mins) then off and start sometimes will clear security issues that I can't work around with HP Tuners!
You’re really good on camera. It’s like you have experience… wait a minute! 😂😂😂
When I did my manual transfer case swap in my 2000 Silverado, I grabbed the harness from the fuse box to the transfer case from the donor truck. Then you don't have all the plugs possibly wrapping up in the front shaft and/or ugly zip ties
I'm popping popcorn to read all the posts from the know it all's.
Great work LT I know how you feel wrestling the TC out I did the same on the ground to fix pump rub on my 246... great effort
Great video, by the way, what is the number of that extra capacity (long) AC oil filter ?
Great job, LT....and nice truck! You make things look very simple.
About 11 minutes in... I can remember similar struggles with the transfer case remove and replace I did on my 2003 Silverado SS. Arm up over the frame brace, saying "OK,,,, rrrrrppppp eeeeeppppp oooooorrrrrgggghhhh, WHEW!" It was like watching myself back in time LOL! Have fun!!!
I figure those 4.30s were a good call, it's a good compromise with an overdrive. Sounds in a happy place there.
Yup, I’m loving the 4.30s
So funny to see a'guy do all that work to a truck and be all kinds of upset about a security light 😂
Out hooning and interact with a Utah LEO and explain it... Drive it like you
This actually isnt the first one out there, maybe as a stepside bed model, but I've seen a few. And its the best idea ever...
You throwing that much power at that 4L60 with no tire slipping as a cushion IS GOING TO GRENADE FAST!!
if it does, it goes. We've got a 4l80 ready to replace it!
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Great video LT! Looking forward to seeing the wrap next!!
Coming soon!
Gotta love the random security light on those years. Seems like all the warning messsages are on a random pattern to make it seem like it’s actually thinking, or it’s just the top notch electronics sensors randomly “working”.
I never questioned why as for a long time I've wanted to create a modern Typhoon out of a Blazer Xtreme as I never thought I'd have gotten an actual Typhoon. Swapping the 2wd frame for a 4x4 Blazer Zr2 frame and converting to AWD, turbo'ing the 4.3L V6 and even try using the GMC Jimmy headlights and grill with the Xtreme bumper. Although now I have my Typhoon.
Man, LT, I love this kind of stuff. I'd love to someday turbo charge my 2014 Tacoma. Maybe someday..... Keep up the great work man.
I still like calling it the "Tyclone". Cool build though!
Salúdame, Te conocí por PowerNation en Español 🤭 en especial por el vídeo del Viper vs F-150 ambas Tuneadas, Me encanta tu programa (en español) porque aprendes de automóviles pero bien explicado paso a paso, Otro ejemplo cuando construyeron el Camaro 92, Muy buenos programas, El que más me encantó fue el de la Ram 3500 modificada porque no cualquiera le mete mano a un Diesel para correrlo en competición para meterle 1000 hp
thank you for watching, I loved building the Ram 3500 Cummins diesel truck, that was one of my favorite trucks!
Can't wait to see the COPO at LS fest! Stoked for you.
Can’t wait to hear about your LS Fest and how well your truck did good luck!
2500/3500 frames are only missing a couple front mounting brackets. Converting from auto to manual is very easy. Already got 4 conversions done and still on the road. Yes cruise still works
What transmission would you use for a manual swap? With the T56 transmission found in the Corvettes work?
@@sethh8892 NV4500, it can bolt up to the 6.0L/ 5.3: engine block. This same transmission also bolts up to the die hard Cummins 5.9L. Very easy to self rebuild the transmission. You just need to make sure you get a NV4500 that is setup for GM applications. Also make sure to get the cross member for the manual. T56 is good if your aim is a fast cruiser/ burnout maker.
@Lawrence LT Tolman @@sethh8892 with these years the gear ratios 4L80E compared to NV4500. 4L80E ratios :
1: 2.482
2: 1.482
3: 1.00
4: 0.75
R: 2.077
NV4500 gear ratios
1st = 5.61
2nd = 3.04
3rd = 1.67
4th = 1.00
5th = 0.75
R = 5.04
Manual can work with heavier loads than automatics. With a manual trans the system can operate without issue just running 110amp alternator. Automatic systems need 130amp+ alternators. Engine will also run cooler as it is not having to cool the trans as well. Compared to automatic no power is lost between engine and the tires. You don't have to worry about automatic doing the shift panic when you are between gear hauling going uphill.
If you plan on staying with the 4L80E then do every cooling upgrade you can. Two to four quart extra capacity aluminum deep dish pan for transmission. These upgrades work for me; Tru-cool model# 47391 , Cool Case model # GMT569A , TSI model# 4L80DPK-A .
@@frostybandit1 I'm pretty sure there is power lost between the engine and the rear tires regardless of what style of transmission your you use, this is simply due to basic laws of thermodynamics. There is always heat generated from the transmission and therefore that means there is energy transfer, which means there is energy lost from the load of the trans. But I can definitely see a manual transmission being more efficient, as it's not relying on fluids, only direct gearing.
@@frostybandit1 Also, this is going to be for a race application. I've never heard of the NV4500, do GM vehicles have these stock? Or are they just conversion kits?
On the security problem. Depending on what the computer seen. You have to go through so many valid key operations. Basically just use the factory key multiple times starting and driving it.
But this is the coolest truck being built on the net right now. Good job on it.
That looked like so much fun pressing that diff in place! I was waiting for the rust to drop into your eyes, sorry.😝
When you were replacing the 4x4 switch with that little opening, I was wondering if you may have forced an issue by unplugging while the key was on. Not sure at all, but that's what I was thinking.
that did occur to me after the fact, it probably didn't help. I should've disconnect the battery before doing anything
I believe you can set that light to no error reported with VATs disabled and the security light should go off. Maybe I am misremembering but I think that is how I did that.
I assume you pulled the battery cables for a couple hours?
props for doing this work without the benefit of a car lift!
Glad it that security light is off.. keep up the good work I will keep watching
Looking forward to some AWD donuts!
me too!
Did you go in to system on hp tuners. Special options. And then get rid of break talk. Traction control. Whatever else you have on there?
So glad I found you, look forward to more content. Best wishes!
Thanks so much!
LT sorry if you’ve answered the question already, but why did you do the 4.30 gears? I’m doing my conversion now, and this caught my attention
I love how you still use matco tools, reminds me of you in power nation
LT would more weight in the rear of the truck bed keep the wheels from spinning so easily?
6:20
"Hey Farva what's that place you like to eat at with all the goofy s*** on the walls?"
Do you think the awd buttons would be usable?
red tide inspired me to do a AWD conversion on my 98 k1500. sourced a escalade fron carrier assembly and escalade tfr case cheap. question, could i just swap the passenger side axle carrier for the one off the 4x4 tfr case so i dont need to build a custom mount?
I’m almost positive you can do that. It would save a ton of effort for sure.
@@LawrenceTolman An update. Swapping the axle housing worked! Just got the install finished today with an NP149 i found cheap. Front shaft came from an escalade donor. Needed the shifting bracket bent to clear but it seems to work well. Thanks for all the information!
Dude , you need belltech sway bars and street performance shocks at the very least .
Or atomic fabrication coilover conversion for the front
I actually already have the atomic fab coil over setup, just haven’t installed it yet
Awesome! That’s probrably my next phase . Belltech sway bars ( for the ss) we’re a huge improvement on my 4x4 crew cab I think with the 800 lbs less weight of your truck they would be a good bit better
with that GM communications network if I remember right, there is a start and an end. I think some networks loop, but anyways with that if you delete a module from the network depending on where it is in the network you might end up deleting another modules communication to the network or even several modules by accident then also some modules need to be reflashed to no longer communicate with the module you have deleted. all modules still connected to the network will set codes saying they have lost communication with the modules disconnected and the modules disconnected will not communicate because they no longer have a path to the data link connector. it sounds like you have a broken link in your communication chain and that may be fine for what your doing or you might run into communication issues. pull up a diagram of the communication network and see if anything has to pass through the 4x4 module.
Respect doing all of this by yourself.
thanks!
If I have a 4x4 with a floor shift and 5speed manual trans, if I were to do this conversion would I be able to shift from 2/Rwd to Awd with the floor shifter..??
Why do this? Because you're the man damn it! You're killin it! Fantastic idea and thank you for sharing!
dumb question: is the advantage of AWD vs 4WD because the front wheels can rotate at different speeds while turning when you use AWD? I always wondered why a 4WD drive truck binds up like that when you go to make a turn? thanks for making these cool videos
No such thing as dumb questions, but yes, the primary advantage of awd if that the front and rear wheels can move at different speeds which means no binding on dry pavement
4wd tcases are always 50/50, even if a 4wd has an open diff, it can still bind. That's why awd systems that can do 50/50 only do it when needed, like STi's, Evo's, Lambos. The front wheels on an awd are more or less overdriven, so to speak. That's how the Christini dirtbike works, and why it's awd, and not 2wd, like a Rokon.
Most likely something going on in the bcm on the passenger side, did you check hpt to see if there's any function to disable 4x4 settings? Semi easy fix might be to swap the bcm and ignition of of the same year non 4x4 or awd truck
Edit: just saw the last clip of the video at the end lol
Do you know if the AWD donor happened to have the same wire harness as the 4WD? I want to go the opposite route and swap a 2 speed transfer case, switch, etc into a 2007 AWD Denali. I’m hoping GM used the same harness and just left the wires taped up behind the dash. Maybe swap the tccm and some reprogramming.
I think the procedure to relearn key is key on for 10 mins then cycle switch to off repeat 3 times. The truck prob saw 3 successful key cycles then reset its self. Ignition switches are kinda finiky. Awesome swap! My wife loves her 03 Denali 6.0 awd
If you are already tuning the vehicle with HP tuners then why not just disable the VATS?
@@beetlebuilder5882 who steals gm junk anyways lmao!
That's a bit of heavy lifting from the floor 💪 😳 ouch. But worth every but of effort put into the project once done.
4:30 ratio is pretty good for the 4l60e. Not sure what 1st gear is for 4l80 but I bet it's a good ratio.
Have a good week !
1st gear ratio is 2.482, for the 4l80E.
Did you figure out how to get the security light to go off? I got a truck from my buddy that has this issue. Turned off the the vats with hp tuners but like you I still have that security light on. It drains my battery if I don't use the truck every day. I don't have any key fobs for it. I've been just disconnecting the battery every night.
Set to no report, in hp tuner's for the VATs system.
@@allanb3222 I'll have to give that a try. Thanks
Built an 01 SCSB stepside AWD Turbo truck back in 2012, fun truck.
I love your videos! I have a 2004 awd suburban I am wanting to lsa swap. Not sure how my tcase will hold up since it is the (nr4)
You losing your hair is a side effect of being a god dammn genius you are a legend LT . this single cab build was epic bro that root supercharger sounds so freaking mean I love that wind
hey if that's the reason, I guess I'm ok with losing a little hair
Hello Sir. Love your channel. Is it possible to run front diffential with the mloc like you did on the the c10 with awd transfer case for a 2014 silverado 1500 5.3L z71 lt.
If it has keyless entry, close the doors, push the lock button in the fob. Then push the unlock button. Open the door put the key in and allow it to read the chip 30 seconds or so. Then start it.
I’ve used this to help a few people with GM vehicles with the security lights.
He disabled VATs with HP tuners. So he doesn't have to worry about the 🗝️ anymore.
Wow still has the original front rotors i see. Only last a few years up here in the northeast. I would replace those bearings in the AWD front diff and check the threaded adjustment locks. They always go bad in the AWD vehicles somewhere after 100k and ruin a case half when they spin out.
Are you going to be able to control the power or Torque ratio for front and rear diffs. Like 40% in the front diff and 60% in the rear? What generation Denali did you get the awd parts from?
What color are the wires that you connected to transfer case for the spedometer
Love the build! Keep it up, man!
"Nice time to get a cramp" hahaha been there!
Are there a lot of folks swapping to AWD? My mom has an ‘04 AWD Burb. 3rd/4th went out of the 4L60E. Engine runs great. 155k and I know the full history on it. Planning to rob it for my ‘88 K5. Trying to figure out what I want to waste time parting out.
I’m assuming swapping to AWD is a way too complex of a process to even think about for a straight axle rig.
Would I be in good shape to have the 4l60 built while it’s our or plan to try to secure an 80e? Wanting reliable. Decent cruiser, that can navigate a hunting logging road once in a while. Not a crawler or speed demon by no means. It’ll remain by babied K5.
Exploring a Cummins 6BT swap in my ‘85 CUCV (M1009) Blazer and ditching the 6.2 Detroit. It has a turbo 400 but I’m wanting to go overdrive auto. So I’m leaning toward a 4L80e for it too, to use with a controller.
Any feedback would be appreciated! Enjoy your channel 👊🏼
Recap:
•Is there a market for me to sell my AWD hardware off?
•Build up the 60e to go back behind the 5.3 going into K5 (currently TBI), or find a 4L80e?
• secure a second 4L80e for the Cummins swap from 6.2Diesel.
So I had seen one of your previous videos where you stated what vehicles had the right t case. I found, and aquired the t case from an 05 escalade. Planing to put it in my 2000 silverado behind a 4l80e (I know that requires some modification) . But the t case I got is actually a bw4481. Will this still work like the nv149? Or am I better off calling it a loss and paying alot more for an nv149?
the 4481 isn't as good as the NV149, it will work exactly like an open diff in a rear axle. there is a chance it will send all the power to the front or back at some points.
So i now know you could swap that out, is it possible to swap a single cab n bed to a cadillac escalde frame with the all with AWD setup.? I been wondering if it possible or not.
More than likely your theft deterrent problem is due to you moving the column to remove the 4wd switch. There are 3 small wires that plug into the sensor at the lock cylinder case and they will cause issues. You MAY be able to find the issue at the terminals where they go into the connectors, check both ends. Honestly I never actually FOUND the issue, I would just always replace the ignition switch which comes with that harness.
Take the bulb out of the security light 😂
It's not really alight it's a small message screen.
@@michaelsimpkins631 oh damnit I forgot those had the message screens. I’m stuck in the 90s with my car lol 😂
The coupler in that transfer case is a bear to find. I had mine rebuilt by a guy on ebay and it has been working perfectly for the past 5 years since the rebuild. It only needed rebuild because the chains had stretched and needed replaced.
i got a question i have a manual shift transfercase 261 can i put a awd front diff and use the 261 transfercase as selectable awd?
Cyclone reborn, Good shit. can't wait to see her rip.
Did I see one of your Silverado videos where you deleted the Front axle 4WD actuator instead of replacing the front differential? Uses a plug of some type? Thanks
yup, on Truck Tech we showed an option using something called a 4x4 Perm Lock (or something like that). Basically, it locks in the shift collar to keep the passenger side axle locked in place, effectively doing the same thing.
@@LawrenceTolman thanks!
Where did you get the 4.30s for the front diff? Interested in rehearing my self on my 4wd
from Nitro gear
Hey LT. Long time listener, first time caller. Hey man quick question about the AWD conversion. When you swapped the front diff and transfer case, it looks like there would be a few wire connectors that are unused in the new setup. What did you do with the leftover wire connections? Currently doing the exact same conversion on my 03 Tahoe LT
Haha well I watched again and see where you answered it in the vid. Sorry. But there were 2 vss connections on the transfer case that would be unused. You just kinda tucking that wiring away up there or?
Might be time to look into the QuickJack. You can get them up for to 7000lbs and are half the price of a full lift.
Do you have any oil pan clearance issues with this swap? Or does the four-wheel-drive truck already address that?
The front axle is essentially the same aa a 4x4... except it doesn't have a 4x4 actuator on the passenger's side stub shaft. It's live all the time.
Yeah, because it’s already a 4wd truck, there’s plenty of room for everything
Will this conversion work on a 2002 Silverado that has a manual 4x4 transfer case?
That pocket that you put in there would be a great place to put the stock 01-02 escalade traction control button... use it as a momentary switch with a latching relay for a scramble button or something.
Need help with speed sensors what color did you use and which one
I have an 88 Chevy Stepside I want to air ride lay frame and go all wheel drive. I bought a 94 Z71 I'm stripping for the frame. The main issue is making the driveline work. I am also swapping the rear suspension to an independent suspension. The reason for the IRS is suspension travel without having to add the large hump in my bed. This will make the bed appear stock while still allowing the truck the lay low and even lay out at the show.
I also have a 98 Dually that wont stay running. All it will do is start then die in a second. The engine and transmission was swapped from another truck.
FYI
If the transfer case has any kind of clutch pack in it it probably uses ATF for oil.
If it’s purely gears and or chains it will likely use gear oil same as a differential.
Putting atf in both types probably won’t do any harm as long as you change it quickly enough but putting gear oil in an ATF type might kill the clutch packs.
Also some additives will kill the clutches.
Luckily on the NV149, there are no clutches, the awd is controlled by a sealed viscous coupler. It uses a silicone based fluid to operate but is not serviceable and does not interact with the lube inside the transfer case.
I have a 2005 Duramax. I use Mobile1 Senthetic 5w30 in my 263XHD
This FYI was just a heads up to everyone to be careful and not mistakenly kill their transfer case.
Similar advice applies to diffs and gearboxes especially CVTs.
Arent all these 'awd'? My dads had auto 4x4, is that not the same?
I did this w
Same swap
Having trouble with no speed sensor reading.
So my trans is not shifting.
Am I missing something?
Need help.
That would drive me nuts to. Easy to hide it or dc bulb but id still lay awake wondering why??
It is even possible that moving things around in the dash to get the switch damaged the wiring to the antitheft. So it may not even be a program issue, the truck is of legal drinking age you know.
yeah, she's getting a bit older
@@LawrenceTolman , id still take it over a 08 and newer. I have two 06s and love them to death. Hell the Silverado 5.3 has 400k miles on it and runs like a dream