Canon RF 24-105 2.8 vs RF 28-70 F2 - Best Zoom for Portraits?

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    0:54 - 24mm vs 28mm
    1:47 - 35mm Compared
    2:24 - 50mm Compared
    2:49 - 70mm Compared
    3:14 - 70mm vs 85mm & 105mm
    4:36 - 70mm vs 105mm for Headshots
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  • @aperture8983
    @aperture8983 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Canon 24-105 F4 difference between f 2.8 is
    One ( 1 )stop difference
    But price difference is
    3 three stops 😂😅

    • @TheFilmCouple_
      @TheFilmCouple_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm selling my 24-105L f4, and buying the 28-70 2.0. The f4 is so bad in low light I can't get the quality I need. It's a very good value RF lens however, and quality is excellent in good light.

    • @iamdantephotography5565
      @iamdantephotography5565 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      You wouldn’t think f4 to 2.8 would be that bad until you’re shooting at 10,000 ISO when you could be at 5,000 ISO. Then you realize that at f2 you would be at 2,000 ISO 😂.

    • @AKSKMY
      @AKSKMY 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheFilmCouple_ in same position but i need the lens for gimbal work and not sure if it will have balancing issues for my RS3. The 24-105 F4L already has issues balancing.

  • @OhhhBugger
    @OhhhBugger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Is it just my imagination or do these lenses have very different color rendering? The F2.8 lens looks more on the red side, and the F2, more on the yellow/green side. I just think the rendering on the F2 is much better overall.

  • @photographybydaniellee
    @photographybydaniellee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    After hearing your thoughts, I’m still set using a RF 50mm 1.2L. I just don’t need to zoom that much. Thank you so much for sharing.

    • @dreamteamtokyo
      @dreamteamtokyo 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I remember when I was this new to photography 🤣 don't let the industry ruin that mentality Mr. Daniel Lee

  • @stew_redman
    @stew_redman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    I have both of these lenses. For Portraits, for me, the 28-70 f2 is the most versatile lens ever made. It's my most-used lens for studio work. The 24-105 is now pretty much glued to my R5 for outdoor shoots. These two lenses replace 4-5 prime lenses for me.

    • @kernzilla
      @kernzilla 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      how do you like the balance/length of the 24-105 for on-the-go outdoor shoots? looks pretty ergonomic, but always hard to tell until you spend some time with it.

    • @stew_redman
      @stew_redman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@kernzilla I hang my camera from a Peak Design Slide strap with a Falcom F38 shoulder strap, so the lens hangs down just behind my hip when I'm not shooting. Easy to bring up and shoot in an instant. I would hate to use a standard strap with a heavy/long lens. The lens is not top heavy at all, if you know how to handle it.

    • @kernzilla
      @kernzilla 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ah valid point, could see where it would be bit more cumbersome dangling off a strap. i'm on the spyder strap system and prob see similar results in the field. appreciate the info here sir, still on the fence about this thing but my gosh it's got sooo many upsides, thanks!
      @@stew_redman

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's an amazing set up. Would love to own both.

    • @MassMediaArtistry
      @MassMediaArtistry 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love the f2 but the 24-105 didn’t do good for my use maybe I got a lemon it would be my first your thoughts

  • @anthonyk27
    @anthonyk27 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I preferred the 28-70 on every image. Every image. I am always surprised that my opinions are so different than everyone else's. I don't own either of these lenses, but definitely looking to get the 28-70 f2.

  • @SEAME7
    @SEAME7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The King of portrait is the RF 85mm f1.2...nothing else !! ✌️

    • @eric.p.merlin3537
      @eric.p.merlin3537 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Is this because you happen to own it?
      Personally I much prefer 135mm..

  • @RudeRichDallas
    @RudeRichDallas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of the best reviews I have watched in a long, long time! You answered my questions and several that I didn't think to ask. Thanks!

  • @gilbertogranados6367
    @gilbertogranados6367 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Its funny, I do have both of these lenses along with the 24-70 F2.8 that I had previously bought before the 24-105 came out, and in all my testings the 28-70 pulled ahead in sharpness, not by much, but it is noticeable sharper, specially in close distances.

    • @TheFilmCouple_
      @TheFilmCouple_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes I think it does. This video has missed focus on some of the example shots unfortunately. Ie. 07:48 and 04:30 (focus is on her sleeve)

  • @aaronhan2536
    @aaronhan2536 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I personally decided to get the 28-70 f/2. 24-105 has such incredible versatility but considering I have two bodies, I have 28-70 + 70-200 as my setup and it covers just about everything for me from studio, events, general portraits, etc.

    • @TheFilmCouple_
      @TheFilmCouple_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Agreed with that decision. Also for certain shoots, it's very possible just to bring the 28-70 to cover it all with no need to carry extra gear

  • @shawnlabranche6852
    @shawnlabranche6852 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for the comparison, I was wondering which one would be best for my workflow. 28-70 is definitely my future go-to for photos. I was thinking the 24-105 2.8 would better suit my wedding videos. It feels like you just confirmed that in this video. I will rent it first to make sure of that. Thank you for all your hard work in putting this together.

  • @shonen84
    @shonen84 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love my 28-70. Just like you mentioned, the lens has a certain “look” and “character” to its photos. It’s glued to my R5. It’s even great for traveling, it seems like overkill but the street photography images are simply lovely. One use the 24-105 f2.8 would be better for me, is for events. The extra reach in lecture halls and extra width for group shots where space is limited can make a big difference in those circumstances. Thanks for the great video!

    • @TheFilmCouple_
      @TheFilmCouple_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There's also something magic about the lens for outdoor weddings and portraits

    • @shonen84
      @shonen84 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheFilmCouple_ totallyyyy

  • @jwong7316
    @jwong7316 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    you're one of the best in the business with your content, "look & feel" of your vids and your thoughtful approach to each video - great job on this comparison/review!

    • @jwong7316
      @jwong7316 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Forgot to add, that I own the 28-70 and was looking forward to the 24-105....like you, I was thinking it be so useful for events and portrait work....it's too bad the weight and handling make it so hard to use for longer shoots.

    • @77dris
      @77dris 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed! This channel is my favourite camera channel on TH-cam.

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much!

  • @thesawwing
    @thesawwing 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank for doing this! Sold my 28-70mm to get the 24-105 🎉 Hoping for a good fix for the vignetting 🎉

  • @cartertowner
    @cartertowner 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I was trying to make the same decision as well. The 24-105 2.8 sounded so versatile and would probably be awesome for video, but the 28-70 F2 is so highly reviewed.
    The 24-105 isn't immediately available where I am, and wont be until March for most camera stores, so that played into my consideration.
    Saw the 28-70 refurbished from canon for $2,200 and it felt like a deal I couldn't pass up. It comes tomorrow and I'm excited to put it to use

    • @mbrick
      @mbrick 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What do you think? I am torn about 24-70 or 28-70.

    • @cartertowner
      @cartertowner 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mbrick I don’t know how they compare optically, but so far I almost never shoot at F2
      That may change as my style/interst changes. But if that’s the determining factor for you I think you just have to decide if the bit of extra light is worth it

    • @mbrick
      @mbrick 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cartertowner Ok, good to know. I did rent a 24-70 and it was optically fantastic so I think I'll go that way. If you said you are almost always using the extra light I may have thought otherwise.

  • @ramonacosta7579
    @ramonacosta7579 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great videos! Love your comparisons!

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @EduardA-ks9xj
    @EduardA-ks9xj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Although this is not related to the topic of this video, I am very grateful to you for purchasing the RF 70-200/4, and I have been shooting with it for several months now. good luck to the channel

  • @DanYosua
    @DanYosua 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Two monsters! I doubt I'll ever get either, but really interesting to hear your take on handling.

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you Dan!

  • @cnGreathit
    @cnGreathit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks so much! I own 28-70 f2, your photos are pretty straightforward, f2 does make difference even compare with 105mm@2.8. Decide to keep my f2 lens.

  • @trollfalfa
    @trollfalfa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I love my 28-70 f2 and i will stay with it

  • @aaronhan2536
    @aaronhan2536 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Looks like the 24-105 2.8 renders more magenta?

  • @vimalneha
    @vimalneha 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good comparison, it was quite handy to compare.

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @markokompic7617
    @markokompic7617 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Such a great review! Many thanks! I have both, and I am not sure that the 2.8 zoom is much more difficult to work than 2.0 - for me, 2.0 zoom large diameter is making it difficult to hold in hand. On the other side, 2.8 zoom is absolutely too long and that is a problem since you have to hold your hand much more out from the body. I like 2.8 more due to better microcontrast.

  • @arjuntao
    @arjuntao 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Would you know why there is a slight colour difference between the two shots? I really prefer the f2 in all shots based on the image colours

    • @kemirsz
      @kemirsz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dołączam się do pytania, różnica jest ogromna, z czego wynika?. Bardzo dziękuję za ten test dla mnie jest bardzo bardzo przydatny

  • @Crush3r15
    @Crush3r15 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another amazing video full of useful facts ! You are people's go to when it comes to lenses and comparisons... You are amazing. Also, we are still waiting for your presets to be finally available. That will be an instant purchase.

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much!

  • @WavyFBaby
    @WavyFBaby หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m debating if I should get this lens or the new rf 24-105 f2.8. I’ll be using it for portraits and hopefully weddings. But I’m worried about the f2.8 vs the f2.0. Will that be a noticeable difference? Also, which lens did you end up choosing? Thank you.

  • @claysouzaofficial
    @claysouzaofficial หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for such a good review. I traded my 28-70 for the 24-105 f/2.8. As a wedding photographer, I was missing the extra 4mm, especially when doing bridal party group shots indoors. Also didn't like the weight. I didn't think the 2.0 X 2.8 tradeoff was worth it. I haven't used the 24-105 f/2.8 in a wedding yet but I believe it will be very versatile during ceremonies. Cheers.

  • @harrisedgar
    @harrisedgar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wonderful comparison...!!! Thank you...

  • @6200Shots
    @6200Shots 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What is a good shutter speed to get these results? Also iso?

  • @martinekwall4671
    @martinekwall4671 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice shots!! I think either lens requires a certain attitude, that quality is paramount and everything else comes second-hand. Hard to choose really which I would choose for a portrait shoot... Both deliver stunning renderings. I rented an RF 70-200 2.8L IS for an event shoot, I experienced it heavy after a while about the same weight or maybe a bit less as these lenses. My impression - If video is of importance then 24-105 is a great choice. Just for portrait then 28-70 I think is best, most faces looks better at 70mm than 85mm or longer.

  • @tom_k_d
    @tom_k_d 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks a lot James, for putting all the work in these comparisons. I was surpirsed to see such intese colour differences between the two lenes, so I uploaded some raw sample images from the previous video (THANKS for uploading these, I recently got an R5 after comparing some of your RAWs: these were a big help with decision making). My impression is that, apart from the slightest magenta tint (which is easy to correct), the 24-105 shows much better colour separation and intensity than the 28-70. Sharpness wise, it's no slouch, but certainly not a prime lens killer, either, at 45mm - especially on the R5's 45MP. At 105mm, your sample pic looks tack sharp, though. Colours are excellent with this lens - another sign it seems to have been designed with mainly video applications in mind?

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you Tom! Glad to hear the RAWs helped. It really is a great lens, if you can look past the heavy corrections and weight it really has no down sides. I’m hoping to put a video together using the lens for video as I think, especially for full frame users, this is a dream lens for video.

  • @leomedeirosrj
    @leomedeirosrj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tks for the video!

  • @DimitriosMegas
    @DimitriosMegas 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A M. AZ I N G comparison! Only the important, footage to see and compare, details provided. Pleasant to listen to. Love it! Thank you 💯🫶

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much!

  • @wolfgangwhyte5571
    @wolfgangwhyte5571 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've had the 28-70mm f2 for around a year now, and it's absolutely my #1 go-to lens for my Canon bodies. If you're still iffy on the 28-105mm, but you want a longer focal length than the 28-70, why not try out the RF 135mm f1.8? Bought it when it released, and it might be the solution you're looking for. And if you really want to telescope-in, pair it on an R7 for 216mm @ f1.8...

  • @justesmond
    @justesmond 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m very glad you did this comparison. I have the 28-70 and the f/4 version of the RF 24-105. I love both for different types of shoots. When the f/2.8 came out I’ve been considering selling the old 24-105 and getting the new one. Based on your review I’m not sure it’s the right move for me to get the 2.8 version. Outstanding review as usual, James!

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much! Really glad it helped.

    • @justesmond
      @justesmond 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JamesReader The length of the 24-105 f/2.8 has always been the sticking point for me. It just looks unwieldy with so much weight distributed to the front of the lens.
      Since I’m not in situation where I “need” the lens I feel like I can be picky for something that I know will annoy me. Your review helped me confirm my thoughts. I will still likely rent it out to see for myself, but I’m thinking that I won’t buy the f/2.8 version. The 24-105 f/4 is the perfect travel lens. Light, sharp and capable. Not sure I want to give them up for an unwieldy beast of a lens.

  • @techguru2259
    @techguru2259 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    did you use a strobe light or a LED light in this video?

  • @RWAquariumPages
    @RWAquariumPages 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great video and great comparison. I was considering a standard zoom in this range and these were my 2 choices. I did notice quite a bit of colour difference of the photos between the two lens? I'm guessing it's because it's SOOC or was it edited that way (probably not) love the final thoughts, it has me leaning more towards the 28-70 f2 for my style of shooting

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Both SOOC colours. The 24-105 was quite a bit warmer consistently. Easily corrected but I just left both at daylight kelvin in Lightroom to be fair as possible. It’s a hard choice, probably the two best standard zooms on the market!

    • @RWAquariumPages
      @RWAquariumPages 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i was also considering the 24-105/f but the f4 won't cut it for me, or so i think, in your video, you showed and mentioned f2 vs f2.8 at various lengths, although subtle, it's a big difference for me, i'm loving the f2@@JamesReader

  • @gustavoumeno
    @gustavoumeno 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you !

  • @thomasriera2030
    @thomasriera2030 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really nice comparison! Is it YT or did the 24-105 images have a slight reddish/magenta cast? It seemed more prominent with the first model.

  • @btecww
    @btecww 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have enjoyed using the 28-70mm. I realize I can’t shoot a f2 for everything. However the results have been amazing. I have adjusted for the weight. I also use the 24-70m which is the best all around lens.I don’t see the real value proposition of the 24-105 2.8. Great review. I also still live my 24-105 L F4. Super sharp stabilized and reasonably $$

  • @dimmockyun9908
    @dimmockyun9908 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for your comparison, I will choose 24-105 because most of my shooting location is outdoors.

  • @DanielFazzari
    @DanielFazzari 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice follow-up video, James! My comparisons between these two lenses were pretty much the same. I shared the same dilemma of which lens should I keep. If the 24-105 had a bunch of compromises, I would have kept the 28-70. But since it doesn't, I couldn't quite justify owning both of these, and I ended up selling my 28-70. I'm not doing too many portraits anymore, so the 24-105 does everything I need. However, if I do end up doing any portraits, that 85mm and especially 105mm at 2.8 can definitely make for some great portraits!
    *Edit: thought I was subscribed to your channel, but apparently wasn't, so I subscribed 😊

  • @ElMacho0423
    @ElMacho0423 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd love any of theses lenses but for now only the 15-35mm and the 50mm 1.2 combo makes sense for me. Its so temping!

  • @lourencomontibello
    @lourencomontibello 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video as always! If Canon is ever to open the RF mount, how do you think the Tamron 35-150 f/2-2.8 would stack up?

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Would love to do that comparison! That looks like an amazing lens. Kind of the best of both these lenses.

  • @Garbid
    @Garbid 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why not compare 28-70 f2 at crop mode on R5 it will give same result on longer end 105 f3 (in dof)?)

  • @armandot9137
    @armandot9137 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for your review. Funny I greatly prefer using internally zooming lenses over extending zooms because there is no weight shift and they are a lot quicker. However I shoot a lot of sports and the need is different there. For portrait session I prefer using primes anyway unless it is a very dynamic shoot. 50, 85 or 105 are the choices in general, I shoot with a 105/1.4 as much as I can for portraits :-)

  • @danielson_9211
    @danielson_9211 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Using the 15-35 2.8 looking into these 2 lenes or the 85 1.2 for portraits might have to rent them since they so close and using the R5 as well. I'm used to the 100-500 so the length doesn't bother me nor does the weight but portraiture is finicky.

  • @cpaturzo1959
    @cpaturzo1959 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the comparison. It is very informative. I would like you to do one, if possible, but instead of 28-70 F2, compare 24-105 F2.8 with 24-105 F4. Regards

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! It's definitely on my list to do

  • @panmaew
    @panmaew 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Depending on the usage. For portrait still photography, the 28-70 is more effective despite the shorter tele end IMO but for video it doesn't even get past my first test, focus breathing.

  • @Galeidan
    @Galeidan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    24-105 is more magenta? Did you use different camera / white balance? I do prefer 28-70 colours and rendering myself.

    • @kernzilla
      @kernzilla 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      noticed the same, crazy amout of color shift! looks like in the BTS shots he's got two bodies going. guessing one was awb while the other was set to specific color temp or something.

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Definitely a colour shift between the two lenses. The 24-105 consistently warmer. I preferred the 28-70 rendering too. Both R5s were set to Daylight WB.

  • @foto19881
    @foto19881 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there something wrong with your settings with the 28-70? I never had a soft image like the one at 7:50 in your Video.

    • @clever77love36
      @clever77love36 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I noticed that too,I think the image was cropped to get the same size figure

  • @johnneiberger7311
    @johnneiberger7311 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the idea of the 28-70 f/2, but I think the sharpness differences are enough to keep me on the primes. I have the RF 50mm f/1.2 and RF 85 f/1.2, as well as a Sigma 105 f/1.4 Art and Tamron 35 f/1.4. Those are some seriously gorgeous primes. It does bother me a little to switch lenses when I'm working with a model, but it doesn't bother me *that* much.

  • @AlSoPi
    @AlSoPi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:25 thanks for showing the difference between 24 and 28mm✌

  • @laurenupdyke8342
    @laurenupdyke8342 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What camera ?😊

  • @crxgator
    @crxgator 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I sold my 28-70 for the new 24-105 as I’m doing more sports. But, the 85-105 compression at 2.8 isn’t really making me miss the 28-70 at this point. However, I did like how the 28-70 felt in the hand compared to the 24-105.

  • @KeesJanSchilstra
    @KeesJanSchilstra 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've been using the 28-70 since the day it was on the market, I love it, also having the EF 85 1.2 for 7 years Iknow what I need for portaits the 105 mm I will never use because you'll have to find space in your studio ;-) I,m fond of the zoom on the 28-70 so I can make more wide angle shots.

  • @JonavennciDivad
    @JonavennciDivad 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The vignetting & color shift may be due to Canon not releasing a new firmware update for the Canon R5 with RF 24-105 2.8 lens support like they did for the Canon R5C in December 2023.

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You could be right !

  • @neostephens8980
    @neostephens8980 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have both of those lenses and the 28-70 is actually heavier than the 24-105 and to me, is more comfortable to hold than the 28-70. But to each their own.

  • @SliverCreations
    @SliverCreations 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So when using it for video will I get the uncorrected image or the corrected image?

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You’ll get the corrected image

    • @SliverCreations
      @SliverCreations 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JamesReader thank you for your response

  • @ThroughJoesLens
    @ThroughJoesLens 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I was surprised at how soft the 28-70mm looked on a large screen at 70mm in your test. I think mine is sharper wide open than what that one appeared to be. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @Severisj
      @Severisj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Focus is off. Lens is Sharp in 70mm

    • @ThroughJoesLens
      @ThroughJoesLens 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mine is like having f2 primes at the marked focal lengths and everywhere in between. I really prefer the more traditional 85-135mm range for portraits though so the 2.8 lens is a winner for at least getting into that range.

    • @thesawwing
      @thesawwing 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sold the 28-70mm due to this. Once you see it you can’t unsee it. Christopher Frost talked about it as well.

  • @ziggyonthelens3173
    @ziggyonthelens3173 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you have ibis on the camera? Might be the reason 28-70 is soft at longer focal length, it doesn’t have image stabilization as the 24-105

    • @summonedfist
      @summonedfist 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      motion blur and general softness are usually pretty discernible

    • @ziggyonthelens3173
      @ziggyonthelens3173 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@summonedfist I ask because I have used the lens to cover a wedding... its was very sharp on 70mm, and this was even the reception with people dancing. It was on the R5.

  • @jameskirk7805
    @jameskirk7805 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've had the 28-70mm now for a year and love the look, but it's heavy and no IS, I do both wedding video and photos, if I just did photos I wouldn't be tempted but for video I miss the IS and reach of my 24-105 f4. I've been waiting for canon to give in to third party and then tramron can release the 35-150mm f2-2.8 but we have been waiting a while now with little hope. This new lens looks like a dream for video but it cost so much, I got my 28-70m for 700 less then this. Might have to wait for it to show up used in a year's time.

  • @shichaosun3298
    @shichaosun3298 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    is the 28-70 focused well at 70mm? To me it looks more like out of focus thank not sharp

    • @mcmillanvideos
      @mcmillanvideos 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This stood out to me as well, my 28-70 is tack sharp at 70/f2.

  • @CurrenSheldon
    @CurrenSheldon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I definitely feel like the 24-105mm f2.8 was made for a yet unreleased RF cinema camera. Like the 18-80 T4.4 before it, this lens would be PERFECT for a C300-style cinema body. I agree that even on something like the C70, this lens is going to feel a bit too front heavy/long. But will buy it instantly once they release an RF cinema body to go with it. Going to be the ultimate documentary lens.

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think you could be right!

    • @CurrenSheldon
      @CurrenSheldon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also@@JamesReader the power zoom adapter comes out end of March, RIGHT before NAB. Hmmmmm...

  • @falxonPSN
    @falxonPSN 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For some reason, that 28-70 just doesn't look sharp anywhere in your first set of shots of the model on the chair. I expect a shallower DOF, but (assuming it's focusing on her eye) nothing is really tack sharp on the 28-70. Is it possible there was some sort of issue with that lens? I get that YT compression ruins everything, but there should be excellent center sharpness on the 28-70 based on other shots I have seen from it. I'm just feeling rather confused.

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Could be YT compression as it’s a very sharp lens. The only flaw in my copy was at 70mm, and even then it’s only next to the 24-105 that it looks “softer”. But in reality without that comparison I would never have complained. In fact 70mm on the 28-70 produced my favourite shots of the day.

    • @adventure9606
      @adventure9606 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If he had put the 28-70 at 2.8 you would have seen a difference in sharpness and he states that toward the end of the video.

  • @helloianzakharov
    @helloianzakharov 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know there are some differences in 28-70 copies. My copy has almost the same sharpness as my RF 85 f/1.2 L, (I made a test for that) while my friend's copy is tending to be on a softer side.

  • @MrLiborHlavaty
    @MrLiborHlavaty 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for very professional comparison!!!

  • @captaincook6283
    @captaincook6283 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting comparison, thank you for your effort. You do things really very detailed and tried to make the comparison as exact as possible. I appreciate. But wouldn’t you just go with your 24 to 70 f 2.8 lens since both lenses tested are very heavy and for me it seems that your 24 to 70 is the winner for portraits in order to hand holdable …?

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll definitely stick to the 24-70 for now, I just liked the idea of having the extended zoom range to 105mm at 2.8. I might end up picking up a 24-105 F4 to be honest.

  • @EliasLopez
    @EliasLopez 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    sticking to my beloved RF 85 1.2 and EF 35 1.4 II combo for everything I do, patiently waiting for that new RF 35 1.2 to upgrade but for now this works for me amazingly, great review covering pretty much everything I wanted to know, but I'm more of a prime guy, keep up the great work!

  • @rengen8736
    @rengen8736 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To make a camera with a large lens easier to hold, use a battery grip!

  • @CryptoJones
    @CryptoJones 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still have my OG 24-105 f/4L w/ IS from 2005.

  • @Maximilan20
    @Maximilan20 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would love to see a 24-105 f2.8 vs rf 24-70 f2.8

  • @mubarizahmadov7843
    @mubarizahmadov7843 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, James. Thank you for the comparison.
    I want to ask you a question.
    Which lens is best for full body portraits,
    Canon RF 50mm F/1.8 STM or Canon RF 28-70mm F/2 L USM ?
    Thanks in advance.

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! Both are great but the 28-70 is more versatile for full body. Personally I find 28-40mm a little more useful for full body shots over a fixed 50mm lens.

    • @mubarizahmadov7843
      @mubarizahmadov7843 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I want to correct my question. Which photo will be better,
      Canon RF 50mm F/1.8 STM or 50mm on Canon RF 28-70mm F/2 L USM ?

  • @MassMediaArtistry
    @MassMediaArtistry 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tried the canon RF 24-105 2.8 on my r3 at a Long Beach dub Allstars concert it was very dark and the 24-105 wouldn’t focuse at all the 28-70 f2 is my got along with the RF 70-200 2.8 I shoot 2 cameras both R3s with black rapid double my option this lens is a looser for me and I’m returning it

  • @chazM6116
    @chazM6116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why the colour difference on your images?

  • @Mintyseden
    @Mintyseden 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is the color difference from the lens?

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's right

  • @marcelrothmund2447
    @marcelrothmund2447 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi James, many thanks for this video - most interesting. However, I can absolutely not confirm, that my copy of the RF28-70mm would be visibly worse at 70mm than at eg. 50mm (100% Crop). Maybe you should test another copy for yourself. Best regards!

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you Marcel! I'll definitely try to get my hands on another copy

  • @leomedeirosrj
    @leomedeirosrj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No samples to download? I’m going to cry 😭

  • @stkuj
    @stkuj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 24-105 is so much more versatile. That said, it's really big and heavy. I would use the 24-105 more for video (there also looks like it's a bit more pink too).

  • @AbcDino843
    @AbcDino843 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Some of those 28-70 f2 shots looked slightly out of focus, so I can't really judge the difference in sharpness.

  • @joeyward2662
    @joeyward2662 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can't pay full attention these days because I have a two year old distracting me... Can someone tell me, were the corrections mentioned in camera corrections or corrections in post like photoshop or other software?

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These were the Lightroom profile corrections I showed when discussion corrections. The images are already well corrected SOOC in the jpegs for example. Hope that helps.

  • @kernzilla
    @kernzilla 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    wild seeing such a prominent color shift between these two lenses. it's so drastic, it makes me wonder if there was a setting between these comparisons that was not consistent?
    really shocked to see the 100% crops at 7:16 // 7:54, confirming there wasn't some motion blur on the 28-70? the IQ here just doesn't make sense. I've seen some great images out of that lens wide open, and something seems off here. 28-70 is kinda famous for being incredibly sharp wide open, and these shots imo would not be usable/submittable.
    sidenote: always love when creators include dropbox folder with some raw test shots for viewers to compare, def adds lot of value to a proper comparison like this.

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There was definitely color shift between the two. Generally the 24-105 is the warmer lens. They were both shot under consistent lighting and and daylight WB the only change was the lens it's self. I agree - I was fairly shocked too, there's always a chance the lens I hired isn't the best example of the 28-70 but I found this to be consistent at 70mm with this lens on the day.

    • @marcelrothmund2447
      @marcelrothmund2447 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I absolutely agree! My copy of the 28-70mm is absolutely sharp at 70mm, too.

    • @SigurdDecroos
      @SigurdDecroos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My 28-70 is also razor sharp at 70mm f/2

    • @Xirpzy
      @Xirpzy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mine is rather soft with pretty bad CA. Atleast compared to other lenses I own. Also useless for video with the loud focus motor, heavy focus breathing and no IS. F2 is nice but thats the only advantage it has. I would definitly go for the 24-70 mm instead if I had to choose.

  • @fg1110
    @fg1110 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the 28-70 but will sell for the 24-105

  • @steveolesen8033
    @steveolesen8033 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For me I like to use 80-85mm for my portraits so the 24-105 would be my goto lens

  • @marcusavanti902
    @marcusavanti902 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't like either. Zooms have they're place but fast primes are so much nicer at rendering spearation.

  • @draeknoxmedia
    @draeknoxmedia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    24-105 for the win

  • @henrynaulak1254
    @henrynaulak1254 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Next Canon lens 28-200mm f2😉

  • @pilot2002010
    @pilot2002010 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you did the 70mm vs the 105mm shot, it can be clearly seen that the f2 is super soft compared to the f2.8. Hands down, 24-105 is a way better lens.

  • @aperture8983
    @aperture8983 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Canon 24-105 f4 vs f2.8

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Definitely on my list to do !

    • @aperture8983
      @aperture8983 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you

    • @aperture8983
      @aperture8983 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JamesReader dear sir plz what color difference Nikon between Canon make video Nikon z6 Ii vs Canon r6 Ii plz which is bast color since

  • @baekmedier
    @baekmedier 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The real use for this 24-105 lens is video... :) i get that its awesom for photos also... but its declicked.. it has a zoom rocker that can be attached.. :)
    the only issue at the moment is that there is no RF full frame cinema cameras (that has build in ND filters as a cinama line camera should always have)
    But I guess we will see that very soon :) a few months maybe.. C500 mark 3 ? who knows..

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very true! I’m hoping to test it a little more for video soon. Very much hoping you’re right about the full frame RF cinema camera too.

    • @baekmedier
      @baekmedier 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And love your video btw 🤩👌

    • @baekmedier
      @baekmedier 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JamesReader I own and use the R5c with the ND adaptor and V Mount battery + battery grib.. the R3 with the regular adaptor for sports.. and then for coporate work i Got two speedbooster C70’s..
      The great Big issue is that if you want to use full frame glass on the C70 and use that Nice build in ND (and you def. Want to) it needs the speedbooster.. that makes it impossible to use the RF 24-105 f2.8 😅
      And if you go super 35 RF native Mount its not a wide lens any more because of the crop.. 🫣
      The R5C Can use it as the only “Cinema” camera in canons lineup… but then you dont have ND “build in” only by using the RF to EF adaptor you can get that..
      its just annoying.

  • @vivaldi06
    @vivaldi06 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Best lens for portraits ? Canon RF 85mm F1.2 of course !!!!!

  • @frankfeng2701
    @frankfeng2701 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    On Sony side, I can get Tamron 35-150 f/2-2.8 and adapt Sigma 24-35 f/2 at a cheaper cost than either one of these two.

  • @ajbroo
    @ajbroo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    28-70 /24-70 is alright and versatile
    50 never fails
    35mm is king.

  • @Azntrutek2012
    @Azntrutek2012 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you have deep pocket and strong backbone… Then RF28-70mm F2 and RF100-300mm F2.8 are the only 2 lenses you ever need.

  • @davideversaci5072
    @davideversaci5072 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    devi mettere esempi a 2,8 su entrambe le ottiche...

  • @BrandonColePhotography
    @BrandonColePhotography 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job bro

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you Brandon! 🙏

  • @ludovicgavory6759
    @ludovicgavory6759 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lequel t’as plus impressionné

  • @-MrEVIL-
    @-MrEVIL- 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The king of zoom portraits is the Tamron/Samyang 35-150 f2-2.8 ;))

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wish we could get it on RF!!

  • @anthonymoreno894
    @anthonymoreno894 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wished that you had stopped the f2 down to f2.8 when comparing sharpness. Since you didn’t it’s a little apples or oranges and unfair to declare one or the other a sharpness “winner”.

  • @lovetocrack3443
    @lovetocrack3443 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why is 24-105 pic more radish tone and 28-70 more yellowish in every comparison

    • @JamesReader
      @JamesReader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Was definitely a difference in colour shift between the two. Same camera and lighting so the only factor that changed was the lens.

  • @Gary_cn
    @Gary_cn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    From the samples it looks 28-70's quality is better than 24-105