The 24-105 F4 is the ONLY lens you need for travel! 5 reasons why (Canon RF 24-105 F4)
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- It’s really hard to beat a 24-105 F4 zoom lens for travel in my opinion, in this video I discuss a few of the reasons this could be the only lens you need to bring
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0:21 - Versatility
5:30 - Portraits
7:12 - Adaptability
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10:30 - Convenience
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The RF24-105 is a future hall-of-famer 👍👍👍
For sure! 👌
"Why travel hundreds of miles if your just going to blur out..." Great great point! Always appreciate your real world perspective and lens comparisons
I actually use this lens for practically everything on my R6 except very low light situations where I need to freeze fast action. This is coming from someone who has shot prime lenses for almost 20 years, with a complete arsenal of primes (EF 24L II, 35L, 50L, 85L 1.2 II, 100L, 135L, and RF 16 2.8, 24 1.8, 35 1.8, 50 1.8, 85 2). With high ISO being so good these days, I rarely use my primes now. Sometimes I miss the extremely shallow DOF look (such as on an 85L), but most of the time they tend to all look the same and do not given any context to where the subject is. It is much more fun composing with a deeper depth of field and while playing with foreground to background ratios on a zoom lens like this. At 105 and f4, you can still manage to get a similar look to primes if you know how to position your subject relative to the foreground and background elements. Also with Lightroom's new lens blur option, you have the option of making your backgrounds even blurrier while still achieving a credible image, which I suspect will only get better with time.
Right on the money!
Nailed it! Totally agree!
I'm so glad that I bought the 24-105 f4 L as my first ever RF lens back in 2019. It really is a great all-rounder that produces spectacular, tack sharp images. And on the R8 it's a powerhouse. Thanks for this video reminder! I'll definitely throw it into my kit bag the next time I take a trip!
Totally agree Jay! Great lens for the R8! Thank you for watching!
I agree that 24-105 is a versatile focal length. I usually travel with a G7 X mk iii (24-100mm equivalent) for portability, and I'll carry my RP with 35mm f/1.8 for low light and macros.
Love my 24-105. My next trip is the south of Spain. Your vid reassured me this the only I need. Cheers!
Spain is beautiful! I hope you enjoy your travels and capture some amazing memories 📸
Very nice video, James! I own the Canon R8 and I used in the last few months, with Canon RF 24-105mm f4-7.1 (the cheaper little brother). The focal range of 24-105 I found perfect for me as well, in my holidays so far. Just like you, I love to walk on old towns narrow streets, when 24mm (or around) is perfect, and also having the range of more than 75mm whenever you are on a vista point, having no worries about the rich. Even I recently added the Canon EF 70-200mm F4 L (with adaptor), I still take with me in every vacation the RF 24-105mm. I completely agree with you that being in a vacation it is worthless having the stress of changing lenses every time (prime/not prime, faster or not...).
I would add also another aspect - taking photos inside, interiors of a church, or cathedrals, when you have low light even during the day. Yes, even at f4 it could have high ISO. But, as you mentioned, modern cameras (and my Canon R8 included) handle very well the high ISO. I love how good the shots be at ISO 6400, 8000 or even more.
I end up saying that the Canon RF 24-105 F4 is one of my dream lens, but I don't know if really worth it comparing with mine 24-105mm f4-7.1 taking into consideration the price, as a travel lens, taking memories from holidays, and not making any money with it 😁
Thank you! You have made many great points, I completely agree! I think for travel the 24-105 f4-7.1 is great, no need to upgrade to the F4 version.
What id the difference between the 2?
@@benedictmoreno4729 Difference in price, in quality, or something else?
Bro, i dont even have a canon camera (im on the other side) and yet im watching your videos. Good video. Thank you for sharing and explaining the capabilities of this lens. Hoping you a happy and successful life brother!
Thank you so much!
Great video, i was thinking to change my lens and as your subscriber this video showed up and i loved your suggestion❤
Thank you so much Hossan!
I was surprised by this lens, initially it was a stop gap until I got the 24-70 or 28-70, but I used it for so many shoots, and for brand lifestyle you want a bit more context so F4 is fine. I have the 50 1.8 which is also so light, it ends up coming with me. It's like a perfect combo. I also like that I can punch in with the 1.6 crop in the camera to get even more reach, which is handy for composition rather than cropping after the fact - the file size is still decent enough for printing. Great video as always James. 🤙
Thank you for watching Tony! I actually brought the 50 1.8 along with me too. Perfect combo.
The video is well-done with the many examples of beautiful photographs.
Thank you so much!
Great review James! I’m glad I picked up the RF version back in January for my Mexican trip. Totally worth traveling light. I actually rarely use my 24-70 2.8 RF L and have thought about selling it. I use my 15-35 2.8 RF mostly for indoor shoots and talking heads.
Thank you Jared! It's a great little travel lens.
Very nice and cool Photos. I like your style and am often inspired by it!
Thank you so much!
@@JamesReaderI totally agree, the photos and composition are great. My wife and I are doing a lot of traveling now that we recently retired and both love photography. I showed her this video to look at the images to get ideas for our photography.
@@martyptx Thats amazing! Thank you so much. Enjoy your travels
I'm glad you're so positive about this combination, as I own the Canon r6 II with the Canon RF 24-105 F4 and the Nisi ND. It's very useful and the stabilization is really helpful. However, I'd like a light, small, high-performance AF lens for gimbal video and bokaliciousness. But I'm certainly reluctant to buy the huge F2 version or even the F2.8, which has less range and much more weight and bulk.
I wish we had the Sigma 28-70 on RF mount, seems like that would be a great light weight zoom for gimbal work
I had the trinity of RF lenses, RF70--200mm f2.8, RF24-70mm f2.8 and the RF14-35mm f4 (instead of the 15-35mm f2.8). Of those lenses, I eventually sold both the 70-200mm and the 24-70mm and got the RF 24-105mm f2.8 instead, as I preferred that focal length (and loved my RF24-105mm f4) but still need the f2.8 for some of my work. I don't really know why the 24-70mm is so popular, as I never really liked it, it's just a weird in-between lens, and I'd rather shoot on a 35mm or 50mm prime if I'm already limiting myself to a fairly average focal length. I sometimes miss the 70-200mm f2.8 but I didn't use it often professionally and my RF 100-400mm generally has me covered if I need the range and is super lightweight as an added bonus.
Great shots! Given some of Canon's odd/cool ranges on new lenses, it would be cool if they ever put out a version starting at 22mm or 20mm, all other aspects generally equal.
Thank you Dan! Totally agree. I hope we see more standard zooms start at 20mm over the next few years.
I had nowt but a 28mm f/1.7 for six weeks in France and Italy last year and was very happy with that choice. I then used 20-70/4 for two weeks in Aotearoa and found that to be a better fit for my needs than the 24-105/4 that remained at home.
Not lens related, but I was pleasantly surprised to see Kotor and Perast in the video.
I used to play in a orchestra there at a summer festival for 6 consecutive years (2011-2016) and that's where the romance with my wife started 13 years ago :)....she was also an orchestra member.
I haven't skipped bringing my camera even once, so I have tons of images from there, which are some of my favorite memories. The entire bay and the small old towns are a photography gold-mine.
That’s beautiful! Thanks so much for sharing that. I really fell in love with Kotor and the whole region. Amazing people and scenery and as you say, a dream for photographers.
i use it to cover events, party in general, amazing!
My favourite workhorse lens. Primes are for fun, this lens is incredible for work. Though I did take it to Malaysia on holiday and it was perfect
Your photo composition is 👌
Thank you so much!
Such a nice video again, really love your content! Do you know if the RF 24-105 f4-7.1 STM has similar results regarding sharpness and overall capabilities? (Ofc besides the slower apt ☺️)
Yes. I'd be very interested in your thoughts about a 24-105 for portraiture. I think it's great for creating a diverse set of images taken on location, especially for editorial use.
Totally agree! Will definitely put together a video on that topic soon!
Great vid thanks! Subbed.
Thank you!
I even use a 24-120 lens for my travel photography
Totally agree 👍🏼 but accompanied by a 35mm 1.8 for low light scenarios.
Great combo! I took the 50 1.8 alongside it
Couldn't agree more! I have a 14-140mm MFT lens from Lumix (28-280mm Equivalent) and it is easily my favourite to travel with, I do wish is was a touch wider like 10-100mm, but still don't find myself switching lenses often at all!!
I brought this with my R6II during my vacation in Japan. Weather sealing came in handy since I was practically shooting in the rain in one of our destinations.
I love this lens so much that I have the 2 EF versions and the RF. 😅
Do you see a difference between the EF and RF versions?
@@PhilippeDHooghe IQ wise RF is the best but not a significant improvement from Mk2. My copy of the MK1 is quite soft on the long end. Mk2 solved all IQ issues but I like MK1's weight and form factor.
MK1 has the slowest AF speed and has audible IS sounds. Mk2 significantly faster and quieter. RF has much faster AF and better overall IS.
But in all honesty, I would have stuck with the MK2 if it were not such a chonky lens. 😂
Great point regarding the weather sealing I completely forgot to mention! Hoping to visit Japan soon and this will surely be my lens of choice.
@@JamesReader My camera and lens was soaking wet and held up fine. If I was using my RF primes, it would have been impossible to shoot in the rain.
I agree. I had both the EF and RF 24-105mm lenses and they were amazing for travel.
Did you have the EF II or the original one? I'm thinking if it would be more reasonable, if I was to get one, to go with the EF II, because apparently the optics are similar, and since I have the EF 35/2 and the 85/1.4 L EF, I'd rather not remove the EF-RF adapter.
@@Mikri90 I had all three. The EF II version is long so adapted it might be too long for you. I though the RF was the best one of the three.
@@classic.cameras Oh thank you that's great info.
I am actually mostly considering the EF 24-70/2.8 II (RF 2.8 is beyond my budget) because I need a workhorse lens and I would definitely benefit from that extra stop but dang it if the size/weight and portability of the RF 24-105 isn't appealing.
Indeed the adapted 24-105 kind of kills the main benefits of having one, I was just curious if they were similar optically.
So I guess I will either go with the EF 24-70 or the RF 24-105, and they're about the same price in my area.
@@Mikri90 The EF 24-70mm f2.8L II worked amazing on my R6 with the ibis. I would buy that lens out of any of the other EF lenses
@@classic.cameras thank you, I guess it's gonna be that one then.
I do already have the EF 35/2 IS and the EF 85/1.4 L IS so sticking to the EF lenses will make it easier as the adapter can stay on the body permanently.
Wow, this is Kotor! Such nostalgia! In 2020 we were there on our honeymoon! A beautiful city in which you want to photograph literally everything!
Some of your photos are almost like mine =)
By the way, I also use NISI true color, very good variable density filters
That’s amazing! I absolutely fell in love with Kotor. What an incredible place to honeymoon.
Really well done 👏Next up, a video on 70-200mm f4 vs f2.8 vs 85mm 1.8 for product photography and lifestyle casual portrait 🥰
he's already done 70-200f4 vs f2.8 vs 85mm f1.2, check his channel out!
Thank you!
Lots of great points here. Heading to Paris next year and plan on R6 with the 24-105 f4 as my main lens and this video helps me feel good about that choice. Will also have the 16 2.8 and 35 1.8. Couldn't help noticing your Luma 18L bag - how do you like it? Was thinking of getting that as my transport bag and maybe a sling for everyday.
I think you’ll love the 24-105! Paris is amazing too. I’m actually really liking the Luma 18. Really great for travel. Love the top access and side access.
Got this on my 80d yes it's crop but I got it used for £300 in brand new condition. It's awesome. I'm glad I purchased it. So versatile you can take any type of shot you want. I use ny canon g7x ii most of the time but when going out on trips i take the 80d strapped with this lens.
Yeah, love this lens 🥹
200% Agree with you! I have had the EF 24-105 f/4 L Mark I since May 2009 for my 40D. I bought it for portraits, coverage of network events. Today it is the lens that is glued to my R8, with the RF adapter of course. This combo nails every shot I have ever tried to make, it is amazing.
It is not sharp enough for the R7 and Chris Frost showed that on the R7 the RF-S 18-150 has the same IQ. Also, f/4 is not big enough for the R7, that will miss autofocus all the time in lower light. I used the R7 with this lens for portraits on family gatherings and it was pretty frustrating. I used it in Madeira as a travel lens on the R7 and because of the brighter light outside, the combo fares a lot better. Most shots were good with great colors, better than the RF-S 18-150 which is not an L. The FOV of the 24-105 on an APS-C is not good enough on the wide side of things. For travel, I'll therefore tend to use the RF-S 18-150 on the R7 and yes... the RF-S 18-150 is also amazing on the R8 in crop mode. If you do not need the detail... the range of focal lengths is even more amazing! 10 Mpix is like my 40D used to be! And in similar low light conditions, the R8 shots are brighter, with less noise and with better color than on the R7, they look so much better on the R8.
So for travel, I've also been using the R8 + RF-S 18-150. Light and convenient! But missed resolution on occasions. Still, I shot the moon sitting on a bar terrace in Madeira this January with that combo and I was amazed with the result. The 24-105 f/4 L beats it on a Full Frame as the R8, but it is a bit more cumbersome to tow around.
I loved Rachel's outfit, the hat in particular. My regards to her too!
Thank you so much Philippe! I hope you are well. RFS 18-150 must be an incredible focal range for travel. Glad to hear you are still enjoying the R8, if you get chance to try the 24-105 f4 you might be surprised how light in the hands the combo feels! I will pass on your kind comments to Rachel too, thank you as always!
@@JamesReaderTrying 24-105 on R8, I guess you mean the RF? The EF with adaptor is a bit bigger indeed, I use nothing else for portrait / family occasions.
the first version of ef 24-105/4 was so poor, pls invest money and purchase the rf version, you will be so surpriced!!!
May bring this on my next trip. Usually bring my 85 and 50 but never this. Might bring the 50 1.8 as a night time lens
Give it a try! 24-105 with the 50mm 1.8 is a fantastic combo.
Same path of decision here. 100mm is a great focal length for me because I like to photograph my selective perception of things & people. But I am trying to include more of the environment so I am starting like wider focal lengths too. Quality on 24 MPix is gorgeous and this lens has some pop because of its high contrast.
Image sharpness at close focus isn't that great at f/4 but it is some kind of dreamy - @f/8 all these aberrations are gone and in most cases f/8 gives enough depth of field to give more info about the subject.
One additional remark about versatility: On an R7 it mutates to an equivalent of ~ 40 ...170mm which allows for moderately wide shots but also allows more tele like focal lengths.
Add the RF 1.8/35 and we have an available light lens at reasonable cost, small footprint and low weight including image stabilization and 1:2 reproduction ratio.
For my trip to Taiwan and Japan last year I chose the 24-105 on my Sony A7IV. Combined it with a Tamron 17-28 f/2.8 and Sigma 35 f/1.4
The Sigma was so good at night shots in Japan. Sometimes I thought 24-70 f/2.8 could be better for night walking around shots. I think I didn’t need 105mm often. When I need a zoom a 70-200 or 100-400 would be more handy.
For the trip to Laos and Thailand than I swapped the 24-105 with my Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 and also switch from sigma 35 f/1.4 to the Sony 35 f/1.8 for less weight.
Sounds like a great setup, wish we had that small 28-75 Tamron on RF mount
Yes. Please. 24-105 portrait video !!!!!!🎉
Coming soon!
@@JamesReader thank you 🙏
These travel advantages and more are exceeded with the Canon rf-s18 - 150 mm (29 - 240 efov) on my 1.6x crop sensor R7. This lens isn't the fastest or widest aperature for sure, but it works extremely well for me in my travels, and is much smaller, lighter and less expensive than the 24 - 105 mm f/4.
100% agreed. If you want less noise and better colors in low light, try it on the R8 in crop mode. You lose detail, but if you don't need the detail, the images this combo takes are very good. Chris Frost has also compared the lenses and his conclusion was to not spend money on the 24-105 if you only have the R7 body. The RF-S is as good.
Another strange thing is that the R7 seems to miss less AF in low light with the RF-S on the wide end vs. the 24-105. The RF-S's max aperture is 3.5, marginally more light than an f/4, but in my experience it seems to matter. I would not have expected that. With f/2.8 max aperture the R7 AF works pretty reliably. When using the 28mm f/2.8 pancake on the R7 in Berlin, it nailed every shot. The poor performance of the R7 AF in low light with the 24-105 got me frustrated. James Reader convinced me the R8 is a lot better for portrait and that is why I bought the R8 body. James was VERY right. On the R8, the 24-105 f/4 is transformed... I never took pictures that good with this lens.
I never wanted to have 2 bodies, but the R7 did not live up to my broken 40D for family and portrait. The 40D was a lot better. Buying the R7 was a mistake on my part. The R8 was not out yet when I bought the R7. So the choice was: a better lens or the R8. I am happy I chose the R8. The R7 I only use for wildlife, the R8 cannot touch the R7 for wildlife.
I really need to check out that lens, I'm hearing lots of great things about it.
My last trip abroad was to Japan, and all I took along was my 5D Mk III and 24-70mm 2.8L. I felt like that was all I needed. Not long after that trip, the 24-70 died (err 01) so I sold the 5D and bought an R8 and 24-105mm. The weigh difference alone was a game changer, and it's nice having the extra reach of the 105. I have found that the R8 benefits from the grip extender, otherwise bigger lenses like these feel unbalanced and you can't even set the camera down on a flat surface without it being on a wonky angle.
Glad to hear you are liking the 24-105 Matt! How was Japan? It’s definitely somewhere I want to visit soon.
@@JamesReader Japan was fantastic -- lots of things to photograph, interesting places to visit, a unique culture, and delicious food. I can't wait to go back!
nice video mate! Gonna grab my Nikon 24-120 for the upcoming vacation, after your video I definitely feel inspired.
Thank you!
I disagree, making a youtube video about travels with my prime Fujifilm 35mm f 1.4 . But agree you have some good points and your video is 10 times better made than mine so far :) Keep up the good work
A 50mm prime is really fun to travel with! Look forward to seeing your video
what lens do you use for your talking head shots? looks like background separation is something like 2.8 or even 1.8 on 35mm? thank you in advance, great shots, great video
Thank you! This video I used the Sigma 28-70 2.8 at 28mm (at 2.8). In other videos I've used the Sigma 28mm at F2 or 1.4 also.
I use the Tamron 28-200 as it is an even more versatile optic, I do miss the 24-28 range a little and it also is unstabilised but I don't find it too much of a compromise, I had and loved the Rf24-105 F4L when I had the Canon RP, I believe it to be better than the Sony equivalent....
The 24-105 is a good lens, I have, but Canon missed the boat by not making RF18-135mm, They only made the 135mm prime which I also have. Very sharpe lens. It weights a ton.
I used to think this way. That I must capture this scene and that scene and I need to zoom in here and there. If I’m travelling for fun I like the prime so I’m light and small. Capturing things I can otherwise not worrying.
Although if I’m going on a trip that has lots of landscapes etc. I borrow a Nikon 24-200 Z.
Primes are definitely fun for travel. Also the restriction on focal length can be good for sharpening your composition skills.
Sony a7R5 gives 26mp in crop mode it gives my 24-70gm ii 105 focal length and it’s similar or shorter than the RF24-105 😊. Best of both worlds
Besides the lens, the location is awesome
Montenegro is incredible!
I’ve owed both EF versions and the RF version on multiple bodies and it’s def ONE of my go to lenses so agree it’s a one and done lens… however I sold it and replaced it with the RF 70-200 F4 and 14-35 F4 and for just a touch more space taken up in the bag I think it’s 💯 worth it for the versatility. I thought 24 was wide but at 14 it really changes the scene to something way different and unique imo. Sure you have the added hassle of changing lenses but for the coverage I. Think it’s worth the extra kit.
Two of my favourite RF lenses. Canon did a great job with those lenses and that’s a great two lens kit. I often think of swapping out my RF 70-200 2.8 for the F4 version as it would probably get more use.
I e owned the II and III Version of the EF 70-200 2.8 and I LOVED those lenses too on my 1Dxii but just the size is such a negative. The RF F4 version is literally the same size as the 14-35 or I think even smaller than the 24-105 or same size why not zoomed. It’s soooo small compared to the longer 2.8 version or EF. You have to see it in your hands and on the body. I’m perfectly happy with the IQ and separation of the F4 esp at 200mm with good background depth that for what I shoot you can hardly tell a difference. Now 85mm at f4 compared to 85mm 1.2 is a whole different story. Or even 50mm 1.2. I have the RF 50mm 1.8 nifty 50 as that middle bridge between the two and it helps keep the kit small compared to an 50/80 1.2 and I still love the images coming out of it plus makes the set up super compact. I’ve debated a 50 or 85mm 1.2 but for the price and bulk it’s just not needed
Do you sell the preset you used? The colors are incredible!
Thank you! Working on some to be released soon
I love mine. Half the size and about 1/3 the cost of the 24-105 f/2.8 (which I want but I can’t justify spending $3k for one stop of light while there are still holes in my lens lineup).
Completely agree!
"For shooting people..." daym. I just bought this lens to accomodate my 70-200mm. I seldom shoot under f/4 anyways. First of all i prefer contrast bnw art photography, and f/5.6 is the go to for this. And f/4 is great for press photography too.
Love the colours, do you sell presets ?
Thank you! Working on some to be released soon hopefully.
@@JamesReader I noticed the color style, very moody. It sends the message "HOT!". Artistic. I liked it. For this video.
24-105 is my default but I very rarely travel without the whole 11-400 range in my camera bag. Sure its heavy but, in Amsterdam for a few days, without an ultra-wide, so many great opportunities would have been lost and the trip slightly spoiled. The same with church interiors throughout Italy. You can't fix these issues in processing
I'm currently at Bandung, Indonesia with this lens but with R7 body. It's isn't wide enough at 24mm since r7 is a crop body. I wish I also bring my r8 for this trip. 😭
So for me it’s very tough choice between this and 24-70 😭
the tone just like fuji's tone XD nice photos btw
Thank you!
I was going to say this same thing! The tone in your photos is incredible. Are you achieving that in-body or in Lightroom? Would love to know your settings! Thanks so much for this video
@@andreboudreaux2043 thank you Andre! This look is pretty much entirely achieved in Lightroom and a lot of it comes from the tone curve. I plan on making a video soon with a bit of a guide to achieving this look. But in the meantime if you want to email me I can go into more detail regarding the Lightroom settings I used.
Thanks so much, James! I just sent you an email to your work address. Looking forward to following your channel!
Looks like Montenegro. Beautiful place.
I still happy with 6D2 and 24-70/4 which has macro capability... anyway it's quite big, so for some situation 40/2.8 pancake is better... 24-105 is almost everything range, but does not solve special needs like interiers, macro, low-light... but not needed in trips
I would recommend the Tamron 35-150mm f/2-2.8 if you shoot Sony or Nikon. But I would choose the 24-105 over the 24-70.
I really hope we see that lens in Canon RF soon. It looks amazing!
24-105 is fine but I would still add at least one prime. 24/35/50/85 f 1.8 primes are usually light / small-ish and work much better in low light / dark indoor places when f4 just won't cut it.
How does this lens compare to RF 24-105mm F2.8 L IS USM Z lens sharpness wise? Equal or is one much better?
The 24-105 f/4 is just fine in low light with the sensor in the R6 MkII or the R8 I have (same sensor). This sensor has a 1.5 stop wider dynamic range than previous gen sensors, almost as good as Sony's BSI sensors. Nobody knows what Canon did to nail this tech feat - except Canon engineers, obviously - so on the R6 Mk II that also boasts IBIS, this f/4 is plenty.
Further on resolution, it is not the greatest out there. Resolution and detail is why I'd use a prime for travel, not the aperture. Anything more than 24 Mpix FF pixel density will show its weakness. On the R7 - equivalent to 80+ Mpix FF - it falls apart in the corners of the image, with some pretty bad CA. Note: mine is a EF Mark I version, the RF may be better on CA in the corners. I'd expect the f/2.8 to do better, but I never tested it, so I really don't know. On the 45 Mpix R5, this 24-105 lens may not cut it.
I do agree, the 50 1.8 along with this lens may truly be the best combo. I did bring the 50 on this trip but only used it once or twice for quite niche uses cases. I haven’t had the chance to use both lenses side by side, I have no issues with the sharpness of the 24-105 F4 but the 2.8 version really is one of the sharpest RF lenses I have tried so I would guess it performs a little better. Very big lens though!
@@JamesReaderwhen I bought mine, I noticed considerable sample variation … maybe that got better now?
It should be paired with a 2.8 or faster wide zoom (10-24) or a wide prime 16mm 1.4 or 24mm 1.8 for night photography.
I paired it with the 50 1.8 for those “just in case” moments.
Hi. I use RF24-105 F4-7.1, I found the view is wider when I shoot a photo than video. Is it same for 24-105 F4 lens? Sometimes I feel I need a wide view lens for big building.
I had the original canon one for years, I much prefer having 105 compared to 70, even if loosing a stop. However, it was so poor at the wide end that I considered it a 35-105 for the most part, so always brought my old 17-40 too. I have the Sony one now, but whilst much better than the Canon, it’s a bit weak at 24mm unless stopped well down. So I’d still like something wider, but if it was better it would be the ideal one travel lens.
On what body? The 24-105 I got from the shop was less sharp than my EF-S 17-85. Sample variation. I complained and got another one, much sharper.
My ideal travel lens would probably be a 20-105 zoom. Hope to see something like that soon.
@@JamesReader That would have to be an update of the 24 - 105. I guess the package would stay the same. 18-150 FF would have to be f/5.6 on the long end to keep it “haulable” for travel.
I was telling my intern the other day. Picking a 24-105f4 over a 24-70f2.8 is a sign of maturity as a photographer. Unless you shoot a ton of indoor low light.
Really ? Jee...I was mature from day one then 😀
I always carry a 24-70 and a 100-400 with me, because a smartphone will never offer a 400mm equivalent. That lens is large and heavy, but as long as I am able to carry it, I will.
I agree with you, the background should not be blurred too much. You can always blur it later, but you can't sharpen it later. I think the extreme toneh originated in a time when photographers wanted to show off their fast"professional" lens or eben their medium format camera. Only expensive gear achieved that extreme background blur. Since fake blur was invented, toneh is nothing special any more. Personally I only use f/2.8 when I do not have much light. Otherwise I use f/8 or f/11.
Totally agree. Hoping to try that 100-400 soon, looks like a really fun lens. The 24-70 is one of my favourite RF lenses too. Incredible.
@@JamesReader The RF 100-400 is quite small and light. I use a DSLR though. So I had to buy the EF 100-400 Ii.
I agree with you James but cannot source an adapter to then justify buying an R6 mk2. I have a set of EFLs that also work on my 5D mk3 including the original 24 to 105mm and don’t want to spend lots of money on duplicate R lenses as I still use the 5D and 7D. Boy is the 5D and 24-105mm EF heavy.
I see what you mean. I would be like you: if it works, keep using it. I went for the R7 (WRONG!!!) only 2 years after my 40D died. But I got frustrated. Pocket shooters and smartphones... not always what you need. The R7 with 24-105... not good for portraits, it misses AF all the time. I spent another 1400 € on the R8 and use my EF 24-105 f/4 L Mk I on an adapter. That was worth it in my opinion. The R8 with 24-105 is pro quality for a bargain price.
Are you struggling to find an adapter in stock? Your EF L lenses will perform really well on the R6 II - you might even see some performance increase so I would hang on to them!
Elsewhere in this discussion you will find someone who owns all three versions, the two EFs and the RF. Performance wise they are closely matched. Gordon Laing did a complete comparison on them. He says there is no reason to go to the RF version unless you have the mirrorless body and want a more compact package. If you have the EF version, keep it, use it. Whenever you feel you need to replace the DSLR bodies, the lens will be there to use on a converter.
@@JamesReader I’ve been looking for the adapter for many months. A well know London camera shop thinks Canon are purposefully holding them back to up sales of R lenses.
Make the video shooting only portraits
I am traveling in 2 weeks and I was thinking of taking RF 70-200 F4 + RF 35 and I was thinking of selling the RF 24-105 F4 but watching the video I regretted it 😂
That’s a good combo to be fair! Love the 70-200 f4.
What camera did you use to film this while you were shooting the r6?
The Lumix S5 MK II X! Hope that helps
@@JamesReader you should always include that info. IMO and tell when the photos are edited/unedited. Also not sure if u shot in 60fps on the lumix but it looks un-natural. Did canon sponsor this video for that lens btw?
@@ae364nope it’s all 25fps. I think I share enough info, camera settings and even RAW files. And I always answer questions, including yours, but I appreciate the feedback. I pretty much never post unedited shots on my channel. Not sponsored by Canon (never have been), never received anything from Canon either. I hired the lens with my own money. Thank you for watching!
Would you recommend the Canon RD 24-105mm F2.8?
Absolutely. A bit too big and heavy for travel personally but definitely one of the best lenses Canon has ever made optically.
thank you James. I've just buyer a rf 24-105 f4 with a Eos r6 mark ii and I'm in loving with the results.
Amazing setup! Glad to hear you are loving it
What do you think about travel kit: rf 14-35 + 70-200 f4 or just 24-105 only? 🤔
That’s a great kit! Two of my favourite RF lenses.
@@JamesReader I've heard 14-35 great for video also. True?
@@borabora1695 yeah it’s great for video! Super sharp and the lens stabilisation is great. What camera would you use it with? The only negative on the video side is that a lot of the Canon bodies with IBIS will suffer from some corner wobble when shooting below say 24mm.
@@JamesReader I'm with the Fuji now. Never get the FF before. I'm trying to find out it's worth to change for Canon or not 🤔. Canon looks like more.... Universal. Wish they will open bayonet for Sigma and Tamron soon.
@@borabora1695 Fuji is great for travel too! I hope we see the full frame Sigma/Tamron lenses come to RF soon too, hopefully the APSC lenses are the start of that process!
Is this lens a good fit for the Canon EOS R8 camera?
Yeah it’s a great fit on the R8!
Portrait with 24 105 please 😊
Coming soon!
@@JamesReader Looking forward!
What is the slowest shutter speed you set in your ISO-settings using the R6m2?
I shoot fully manual but will often go as low as 1/10 for static scenes.
@@JamesReaderNo auto ISO?
@@PhilippeDHooghe nope, I just alter it manually. I’m not sure why, I should probably try auto ISO sometime.
@@JamesReader Simon d'Entremont has a vid on this. That is what I do. It ensures your "creativity" because you get to pin down sharpness and DOF with aperture selection and avoids "moved" images with shutter speed selection. The camera corrects exposure with ISO. With the older sensors, that was probably not recommended, hence your habit. But with the new sensors like the R6MkII and denoise software, this is now a useful strategy. I put ISO limits, for the R6 or R8 sensor I use 10k top side. You need to watch exposure though. I expect future cameras will have a new setting "AI Auto" and we won't need to discuss these things any longer.
I think the only lens or camera what you need is what you have. Everything else is a perspective and perception.
Very true!
the 24-105 is a good lens, I have, but Canon missed the boat by not making RF18-135mm
That would be a great focal range! To be fair I would even take 20-105mm
what camera did you use to record this video?
A mix between the Canon R6 II and the Lumix S5 II X. If I am in the frame it’s my wife filming me on the Lumix. Thank you for watching!
@@JamesReader Rachel did a great job!
@@JamesReader How do you find the quality of video between the two? I'm torn between investing in either/or. The r6ii look here has the edge, but perhaps more effort has gone into it. You really have a way with colour, particularly your portraits.
@@KingfisherSeventhank you so much! I really like the image from both. The S5 has a little more flexibility in terms of exposure and dynamic range. The Canon however has a great look and is very easy to achieve that finished look. The biggest plus for the Lumix is the video tools. Wave form, luminance spot meter and shutter angle are really helpful. Lumix is maybe a touch over sharpened out of camera too and sometimes moire is an issue. I can upload some files from both cameras if you want to have a play with them.
@@JamesReader That would be incredibly helpful, if you can manage it. Thank you. Either way, the guidance here is appreciated. There are a lot of reasons not to go back to Canon, but the images can't be argued with... It's a tough call.
well I went with rf 70 200 2.8 instead
I love that lens!
I built my entire TH-cam channel with Canon RP and 24-105 F4 😎
Great combo!!
Kotor ❤
How about fr 24-240?
Would love to give this one a try! Quite a bit heavier though I think?
The 24-240 is about the same weight as the 24-105 (0.15 pounds heavier) and actually about a half inch shorter. The 24-240 is very impressive for its image quality and of course is a great option for outdoor use. Inside, you would need to stay at the wides focal lengths to get the wider aperture needed. I have the EF 24-105 ii lens as well and would say the image quality between the 2 of them is very similar with the edge often going to the 24-240. I have used them both on the R, R5 and R6ii with great results.
One last item to consider, for video the EF can be used with the Meike EF to RF adapter which can be ordered with a drop in variable ND filter. It works great and is a bargain in comparison to Canon’s offering.
How is this better than 28-70 2L
For travel? Smaller, lighter, more range (far and wide), stabilised and cheaper. I love the 28-70 though
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The 24-105L is really not a great quality lens. Get the 24mm 1.8 or 35mm 1.8, then pair it with the 70-200f f4 L if you want sharp corners.
I’ve found mine to be pretty sharp but those are all great lenses for sure 👍
I don’t know man. This thing has minimum focus distance of 45cm 🤦🏻♂️ so imagine vlogging with this, you need to keep always this or greater distance from your face plus also cannot do any macro then
Ah I didn’t notice that! That’s a bit of a shame. The RF 24-70 has a pretty good minimum focus distance I think, especially at 24mm.
@@JamesReader Yes, hehe I also notice it just accidentally somewhere in specifications. It shows it’s also good to read detailed specifications hehe before purchase. I’m leaning more towards 24-70. I know it’s heavier, bulkier and 35mm less reach but still… 24-105 it’s also not cheap 🤔 very tough decision actually between the two hehe
Kotor
Kotor blew me away! Amazing place.
24-105 f2.0 IS L FTW 😏
a 5kg lens... no thank you. This video is about a lens for travel. I doubt it would even be possible to hold in hand for long. This is a tripod thing.
It's a crappy lens. Tamron 35-150mm for flexibility and topnotch image quality