Sailor's Chorus - Richard Wagner, The Flying Dutchman
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- Sailor's Chorus from Richard Wagner's The Flying Dutchman - Der fliegende Holländer, Steuerman laß dio Wacht!
Chor der Wiener Staatsoper
Chorus Master - Walter Hagen-Groll
Berliner Philharmoniker
Conducted by - Herbert von Karajan
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I have prepared the chorus for this opera twice in my career as Chorus Master- Indpls Opera.
I have no words for this overpowering music.
It was a great experience. Viele Dank-Herr Wagner
Yes, but it only works in German. The treatment of the different voices must be the accord. For solo it can be done in the human voice and the orchester to achieve the tri-accord. That is why concert performance of Wagner NEEDS the Orchester. A piano recital will inevitably be off-key.
Wagner,the greatest genius. We are still trying to comprehend.
My Drama teacher in high school, Vancouver, was chorus master for the VOA; that was in the 60s. I remember when he did this opera. Although Wagner was a horrrible, arrogant, IGNORANT (motifs had been used in art for at least three thousand years; he didn't invent them), little, little , little man, this is superb music (for Wagner, who wasn't a scratch on his hero, Beethoven). Had he lived for Nuremburg, he probably would have been hanged for inspiring nazism. He was a PIG (as his great-grandson, whose lecture I attended in Toronto, agrees). But thank you for your input, from the state once ruled by the Klan, HERR Schmid.
Louder, louder, always louder - Wagner's demand of the orchestra & singers. Michael Rhodes warned - Don't sing Wagner if you don't have a voice of steel - it'll kill ya. That instruction was for soloists, but I figure that you could get away w. a "lesser" voice in the chorus. This piece has "cohones." I love it.
But in decibel Verdi is actually louder!
cojones
Mon petit frère quand il était enfant avait appris ce choeur... il le chantait avec l'innocence de son enfance et il faisait rire mes parents, musiciens professionnels.
Repose en paix...
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
The German's have a great lot to be very proud of. Wagner is one of them.
@once a musician German people have nothing to feel ashamed about. They have taught the world a great deal.
@once a musician isn't Wagner and Bach just as "ancestral" and "collective" as the German atrocity of WWII? A brief glance at how Wagner was utilized in the Nazi rhetoric would show that being proud of the former would lead to guilt for the latter.
@@viskovandermerwe3947 Aesthetic greatness does not equate with ethical responsibility. Confusing those two leads to all sorts of pitfalls, including mass production of corpses in the name of nonexistent greatness. I've no doubt that Eichmann himself thought his actions to be a 'great deal' until the very end. Don't be delusional.
@@hosung6936 Germans can be proud of their history, their culture and their language. Wagner is the one of the greatest Germans. That's all. Don't be so hater of Germany.
What a painting!!
What a piece of music ! Powerful and energizing ! Wagner was certainly a passionate.
Very beautiful, including the artwork!
"Wagner's music is better than it sounds."-- Mark Twain
Yes, if You consider the German language, which probably in the subjunctive case has overtones a fifth above the base. That is why Wagner is close to intranslatable to English (or Italian - for that matter - especially Italian that has "clean" overtones an octave higher). English is so poor in tonality.
Thomas Borgsmidt very interesting comment.
Twain was actually quoting Edgar Wilson "Bill" Nye. - "and it took me some time to get myself educated up to the point where I could enjoy Wagner. I am satisfied if I get it in the proper doses but I do feel about it a good deal as Bill Nye said. He said he had heard that Wagner’s music was better than it sounds." - Mark Twain 1902
Yes I agree in terms of the caidence of the languages referenced. However in practical terms as far as what Samuel Clements had access to, one would have to raise the question of what actual performances he was able to hear back in his time, since there were no electronic reproductions. Of course if he was ever present in the audience of the Metropolitan Opera, he would have heard the worlds top most quality operatic presentations. We should be very proud of our Met because even in Mark Twain's day, the Met was considered an equal rival of anyting in Europe. In the current day language cadences, the UK's version of English has gotten so contorted that it is very difficult to sing UK English. That is the reason most British recording artists end up singing the American version of the English language.
@@allenjenkins7947 Just now seeing this, I didn't know. But wasn't Bill Nye the Science Guy?
Der Klang des Orchesters und Karajan - mehr geht nicht!
Richard Wagner, compôs óperas magnificas, com coros espetaculares. O coro dos marinheiros, é um desses coros.
He cantado esta maravilla de coro. Que recuerdos...
Richard Wagner materializou as lendas nórdicas como ninguém!!!!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
La musica alemana la mejor desde cualquier punto de vista...que majestuosidad...
Richard Wagner, der Unsterbliche, will uns mit seiner Musik wachrütteln, damit wir oft die himmlischen Gefilde aufsuchen, um zu erkennen, dass wir göttliche Wesen sind. Die Musik von Beethoven, Bach und anderer Komponisten bewirkt dasselbe......
The melody starting at 3:00...chills every time.
By far the best thing he wrote, sadly the briefest.
Oh yes!!!!!!!!
@@rogerpropes7129nahh not the best by far
Merveilleux
That drunkard's orchestra, it's unbeatable....and also the ghostly aftermath
Sublime
a big moment in this oper for the chorus
Das Habe ich GANZ GERN UND Das Musik GEFAELLT MIR GUT!
BenjaminSch53 Das music??? Oder die Musik........
One of old Wagner's greatest hits! I'm sure Gilbert and Sullivan were inspired by it.
So I'm not the only one who saw a small resemblance to Wagner in Arthur Sullivan's music? Perhaps Sullivan was inspired by Wagner.
Off topic. I have a German version set of CDs Pirates of Penzance. Piraten.
Wagner inspired many and certainly Gilbert and Sullivan.
Yes ... can sense similarities ( especally the violin section conjunction with the men's chorus ) with Pinafore. Sullivan was also influenced by the great Schubert.
Sullivan was parodying it.
Great, thank you so much!! I just called the theater and luckily i caught the pre-sale, where you can get the best deals and best seats. So I added The Flying Dutchman to my package. :))
GRATE MUSIC.........................FULL OF ENERGY, FORCE R VIQUEZ
Wunderbar
Majestoso!!!
Great stuff....
Bravo
Impresionante Coro marinero.
Operagirl81, I don't know about Detroit opera, but I saw this at Sydney Opera House on vacation, and I absolutely loved it.
Artist!
Esplêndido!
Quoi de neuf ? Karajan ! Une fois de plus tout est là , le tempo , le son de l orchestre et même la qualité de l enregistrement
C'était le plus talentueux !
RECORDANDO UNA MARAVILLA DE CORO
Yes, yes, yes! It's the best Wagner to see in the theatre, and written before Wagner went up his own you-know-what.
All Wagner is good to see and hear in the theater. I only have Rienzi to experience live.
@Oriental Jones I wrote that 7 years ago and can't believe that it's even me writing. I don't hold that view now.
Estoy de acuerdo..!
Unser Steuermann, nämlich Gott, lässt niemals die Wacht. Das ist gut zu wissen.
Ce voilier en mer représente bien cette musique tourmentée de r Wagner !
Este coro dos marinheiros é demais!
I've always felt that Gilbert & Sullivan were inspired or drew on this work for HMS among other. Wagner pieces. There's IMO at least a motif similarity if my ears betraying me.
I thought I was the only one who saw any resemblance to Wagner in Arthur Sullivan's music. Interesting!
superbe !!! très belle
illustration comme on l'imagine et son
Wagner céleste...
helas son mauvais sur mon portable pourtant performant...
AL escuchar esta musica me hace recordar la leyenda de El Caleuche, el buque fantasma que ronda cerca de la isla de Chiloe, al sur de Chile.
Fab music.
opening wagner-themed coffeeshop in amsterdam this fall. will you come visit me i am lonely...
:)
I will come to Amsterdam just to see this. PM me the name of the coffeeshop. I've been wanting another excuse to come to Amsterdam again. Greetings from Vienna Austria :)
@@pbrod4 same issue, same solution: let's go back to dam!
I just Saw this majestic piece performed in the Wien Volksoper 2 days ago. I was brought to tears.
Favolosa
Ja Benjamin - es ist ganz toll. Es gefällt mir auch!
Impressive...
A great shanty
welldone
La música de Wagner es de una magnificencia innegable...
Likes from Kenya
Who is this performing, their language and interpretation is spot on
Open the uploader's comment?
It's one of the old Vienna State Opera production recordings
Well dobe
Re tge artist: I thought either Joseph Turner the great English artist, or possibly c
Caspar David Friedrich...but I don't recognize it. The story is from a satirical novel by Heine, it is slightly ridiculous but I have always found this one of Wagner's most dynamic works. The idea is good. His main ideas were good. But he overdid things in other areas as has been mentioned and hence Nietzsche (once a big supporter) broke with him.
*** Et pour les + Wagnériens d'entre nous, de Richard Wagner "Le Hollandais volant, Der Fliegende Holländer, The Flying Dutchman... The Sailor's Chorus Grandiose !
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hOLY tomato! Sir, who painted this masterpiece? Tk you!
"flying dutchman" unknown artist
Iwan aiwasowski the sea Storm
Seriously? It's from the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise
Das beste Sauf- und Trinklied!
I Love 3:00
I'm not a real big fan of Wagner, I like the story of the Flying Dutchman though. Is it worth seeing in the theater? I need some help. I'm trying to decide to see it or not.... This season for the Detroit opera isn't the greatest. :P
It is. But go with someone who is a Wagnerian.
@@adfontesaquarum I don't think that's necessary. Flying Dutchman is very accessible.
Burschenschaft song.
With big jugs of beer.
KARAJAN YES
Anyone know the artist's name and the name of the painting?
Rob Russian painter, iwan aiwasowski
I Listen 2x speed 🎶🎶🎶
Karjan is King.
Ricorda tanto quando l'Austria era davvero un IMPERO.
Comandato da Ufficiali caparci e ingegnosi, con una popolazione di 60 milioni di abitanti.
Ora è uno staterello da 8 milioni di abitanti.
Questa è la storia.
Non so se dire per fortuna o purtroppo😁😄😅
Was hat diese Musik mit Eurem fiesen Gequatsche zu tun?
When Wagner wants to be like Rossini:
Who is pausing all these vews
Això es Wagner bén fet!
The ultimate question: this, or the chorus of the Hebrew slaves by Verdi?
Both!
Pilgrim's chorus
Why not both?
Va pensiero of course, unless we want to play intellectuals
This, always!
so wie Angela?
Die Steurmann Last Der Wacht
is it just me, or is this not a great song to smoke weed to ? yes. this is a great song to smoke weed to. yes.........
Johnny Yen, I prefer wine because THC dulls my senses in an unproductive way, the few times I have done it. Wine, on the other hand, does not seem to have the same effect on my brain.
So sorry, but I think someone else here mentioned it first and I was responding to them!!
Robbi496 thanks for the comment...Wagner was notoriously racist and anti Semite giving inspiration to crazy people... mentioning this is not about respect, is a fact!
Skrillex brought me here.
Germans surely have the best composers... of course, after all the Italians and half of the French ones.
this is old
I expected this to be more... sailory....
Yes Wagner was a big ego and a nortorious anti-semite, but this is a great story and the music is great too!
he was only calling a "spade" a "spade"
Il fatto che fosse antisemita lo rende meno GRANDE? Io dico di no!! Grande compositore
Aufforderungen zur Selbsttötung solltest lassen, wenn Du willst, dass Deine Argumente angehört werden.
Und vor nen Zug sollte man sowieso besser nicht springen. Es ist nämlich nicht lustig, wenn die Zugreisenden wegen so jemandem mit 2 Stunden Verspätung das Reiseziel erreichen. Ich rede da aus Erfahrung.
Indiefründendisheguenden.
Wagner is a paradox. He really was as morally ugly as man as you will ever hear of, with a mind full of hate and power fantasies. Yet some of the music is remarkably beautiful. This seems to be true from music throughout history -- several great rock musicians (I'm looking at you, John Lennon and Eric Clapton) have shown themselves to be real pieces of work off-stage.
When I was growing up, there was a common theme stating that if you would not welcome a person as a dinner guest, then you should not invite them into your homes via TV. Fortunately people paid no attention to these campaigns, because most people have only a small type they would be comfortable with as guests. And some of these rat-b***ards have produced truly extraordinary art.
There was no reason to mention the anti semitic part.. Have some respect please.
Respect for who? The notorious antisemite? He made great music, but I'm not going to respect him after what he wrote, and what he still represents to a lot of people.
that makes him even better
Meyerbeerian music by the anti-Semitic Wagner. Did Wagner took advantage of the generosity of his Master, Meyerbeer?
In reply to itsreno
His anti-semitism is still what many people remember Wagner for the most, so that is enough of a reason to mention it on a free speech forum. It has nothing to do with respect.
+Violetta Valery How many people remember Wagner as a person? Or do you mean they remember reading it somewhere? I don;t see any anti-semitic themes in his operas.. So yeah, why mention it?
It is commonly argued that negative characters in Wagner' s librettos (Mime in the "Ring", also the figure ?Beckmesser? in the "Meistersinger") are modelled after Jewish stereotypes (these sterotypes in fact often contain nearly any negative trait that could be thought of a human, in fact, in conspiracy theories etc nowadays negative figures in history are always claimed to be Jewish and vice versa - often with no evidence about the origins). Unfortunately, it seems that racist and anti-Jewish sentiments were mainstream views in the 19. and parts of the 20. century. Wagner, of course, held them, and in his essay about the Jews in the music, he claims that they are inferior, cherry picking and subjectively interpreting the capabilities of composers like Mendelssohn.
SI WAGNER AVAIT ÉTÉ SI ANTI -SÉMITE QUE CELA ARAIT-IL CONFIÉ LA CRÉATION DE « PARSIFAL » à HERMANN LÉVY ??? ! ! !
@@30290Hagen vous avez raison !la musique est universelle et sans opinion !
Karjan is King.