I'd like to see the finished rectangular stone. I was taught to use a triangular or square-shaped file with corners to score the silver in the corners of the square bezel and then solder it along a flat side. This keeps your corners sharp and you maintain the softness of the fine silver bezel in the corners. It is time consuming and takes some precision filing, but the corners look nice on the finished piece. However- this method would be way easier, and I'd love to try it if the end result looks good.
Really, two "L" shapes to make a square with the solder points at the edges. Wow, I can't imagine this every working. But I did like the use of the pliers to help with the curves. Thus, thank you for that.
I dont know if you are still answering questions from this video, but ill ask anyway... At 14.21 you show a square stone in the bezel and the corners are sticking out,they dont look like they follow the shape of the stone, is that how it is going to be left? Also I don't know if I missed the reason why you do the square bezel in 2 parts? I actually just came to see how you set the tear drop shaped stone as im wanting to try that with silver and an opal ive cut. So thanks for sharing.
You're welcome. Often on a square shaped bezel the corners are filed down slightly near the top of the stone so that when they are folded in there are no creases/overlap. Hope that makes sense? Also, you don't have to create the square bezel in two parts, its just a technique for getting sharper corners. x
The bezel strip is soldered to the base. You can learn how to do this in this course learn.jewellersacademy.com/p/intermediate-silver-and-shaped-cabochons x
i'm trying to find 9k gold bezel. not easy...it's not gold filled, is it? maybe in the US? i LOVE the idea of using that bezel strip to keep things affordable but interesting. great video!!!!!
So glad you enjoyed the tutorial. If you are looking for 9k bezel strip you should find that somewhere like Cookson Gold www.cooksongold.com/Strip-Bezel-and-Gallery/9ct-Yellow-DF-Bezel-Strip-3.0mm-X--0.3mm,-100-Recycled-Gold-prcode-DAA-415&add=n x
So many places to buy gemstones! Check out our handy suppliers list to get started, we have a good list of gemstone suppliers there - www.jewellersacademy.com/jewellery-supplies With love Jess x
Hi there, bezel strip most commonly is found in 3mm or 5mm wide strips and is 0.3mm thick (I think possibly 8/9 gauge?). You wouldn't really want to go much thicker than 0.4mm/0.5mm thick if you were creating your own bezel strip. Otherwise it will be too tricky to work with when stone setting. Hope that makes sense! x
Thank you for making this video. I've never tried the L shape idea (too scared to solder square bezels they are never the right size!) so this was a great tip. Do you think you could get away with using Hard solder for both the closing of the bezel and the soldering of the bezel to the backplate? Second question.. do you have a source for those hexagon stones? They are lovely!
Hello Annie, yes absolutely I use hard solder for the bezel and the backplate, it isn't as tricky as it seems so don't be afraid to give it a try. I brought the hexagon stones on Etsy, just searched for hexagon cabochons and gemstones they change stock all the time so it is always interesting to see what they have. Jess
Normally the entire setting will be made out of the one metal, so either all sterling silver or all gold. You will need the bezel strip which comes in either 3mm or 5mm, plus silver sheet for the base of the bezel. This is normally about 0.5mm or 0.8mm thick. If you're keen to learn the full process, why not take a look at our Intermediate Silver & Setting Shaped Cabochons course which will guide you through each of the steps needed to make a bezel setting. learn.jewellersacademy.com/p/intermediate-silver-and-shaped-cabochons x
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No specific torch needed for hard solder, the size of the torch/flame/heat depends more on what you are working on. Delicate work requires a small, precise flame, whereas jewellery that's a little more substantial - say a chunky bracelet or ring might need a slightly more powerful torch with a bigger flame. Hope that helps x
I have a ring like this, in a sealed setting. Now I notice that some dust got into the bottom of the gem. Since it's a clear moonstone, it looks vert obvious. Do you have any suggestion for cleaning it?
It sounds like you need to potentially re-set the stone - which can be done if you take care when removing the stone from the bezel - not to damage the stone or setting. If you are able to remove the stone, you should be able to clean the setting and then replace and set the stone again. x
Hey there, this tutorial only shows the process of shaping the bezel strip. Once its formed it needs to be soldered closed, and then soldered onto a base plate for setting. If you would like to learn the whole process of stone setting and making silver jewellery check out our online courses on the links below: The Silver Jewellery Workshop (for beginners) jewelleryschoolonline.teachable.com/p/silver-jewellery-making-for-absolute-beginners-free-course The Soldering Masterclass (Beg/Int) jewelleryschoolonline.teachable.com/p/the-soldering-masterclass Stone Setting in Silver (Beg/Int) jewelleryschoolonline.teachable.com/p/stone-setting-in-silver Intermediate Silver & Setting Shaped Cabochons (Int) jewelleryschoolonline.teachable.com/p/intermediate-silver-and-shaped-cabochons Hope that helps! x
Hi Jessica! Thank you for the video! I contacted my supplier but they don't have those bezel setting strips. So then I have to wals and saw it myself but that is a lot of work! Do you know where I can get those silver and gold strips? And also, what is the thickness, about 0,5 mm? Thank you!
One source for bezel strip is RioGrande Jewelry Supply: www.riogrande.com. The second is one I just found on Etsy. I have contacted them regarding some copper bezel and they also have sterling, vermeil and might have gold of other karats. I am not sure about the gold, but perhaps you can contact them directly through their site? ZDP Findings Manufacturing. www.zdp-findings.com/shop-by-material/sterling-silver-925/gallery-wire.html?p=3 -LennyW- (I am reviving old skills through online classes and was looking for a source for these metals and searching stones. I bought $149 worth today!)
Sorry to hear that Wendy. Whereabouts are you based? Have you seen our handy list of suppliers? www.jewellersacademy.com/jewellery-supplies Cookson Gold have a good supply of silver and gold bezel strips. Bezel strip comes in a variety of thicknesses, but it starts at about 0.3mm thick. Hope that helps, with love Jess x
Thanks for watching guys - I hope you find this video helpful if you have any questions let me know in the comments. Jess x
AWESOME video - one of the best I've seen! Thank you so much!
Glad you enjoyed it! x
Great tips.
Always having clean and tight fits on the join
Its saves work.
Yes it does! x
Thanks, good tips for making bezels with different shapes ❤
Glad it was helpful! x
Yay! Finally a useful and well-done update! So grateful!
You're welcome! x
I'd like to see the finished rectangular stone. I was taught to use a triangular or square-shaped file with corners to score the silver in the corners of the square bezel and then solder it along a flat side. This keeps your corners sharp and you maintain the softness of the fine silver bezel in the corners. It is time consuming and takes some precision filing, but the corners look nice on the finished piece. However- this method would be way easier, and I'd love to try it if the end result looks good.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge Andrea - great advice. I will have to put a rectangular bezel setting on the list of tutorials to make! Jess x
I’m wondering, can you set a cab on a bezel without a backing? If yes is it possible to make a video? Thanks so much for all the videos. More power.
Yes kind of. You can always cut out a section or shape from the base plate after creating the bezel setting. x
Really, two "L" shapes to make a square with the solder points at the edges. Wow, I can't imagine this every working. But I did like the use of the pliers to help with the curves. Thus, thank you for that.
It works really well Catherine, give it a try. And yes the pliers are a lifesaver! Thanks for watching. Jess
Nice job keep up
Thanks, will do! x
I dont know if you are still answering questions from this video, but ill ask anyway... At 14.21 you show a square stone in the bezel and the corners are sticking out,they dont look like they follow the shape of the stone, is that how it is going to be left? Also I don't know if I missed the reason why you do the square bezel in 2 parts?
I actually just came to see how you set the tear drop shaped stone as im wanting to try that with silver and an opal ive cut. So thanks for sharing.
You're welcome. Often on a square shaped bezel the corners are filed down slightly near the top of the stone so that when they are folded in there are no creases/overlap. Hope that makes sense?
Also, you don't have to create the square bezel in two parts, its just a technique for getting sharper corners. x
@JewellersAcademy ok thanks you for replying and clarifying it for me
Can you show how you connected the metal strip to the metal base to complete the bezel creation?
The bezel strip is soldered to the base. You can learn how to do this in this course learn.jewellersacademy.com/p/intermediate-silver-and-shaped-cabochons x
i'm trying to find 9k gold bezel. not easy...it's not gold filled, is it? maybe in the US? i LOVE the idea of using that bezel strip to keep things affordable but interesting. great video!!!!!
So glad you enjoyed the tutorial. If you are looking for 9k bezel strip you should find that somewhere like Cookson Gold www.cooksongold.com/Strip-Bezel-and-Gallery/9ct-Yellow-DF-Bezel-Strip-3.0mm-X--0.3mm,-100-Recycled-Gold-prcode-DAA-415&add=n x
How does your wire bend so easily ? I have 28g bezel wire and I find even that doesn’t wrap as easy .. does it always have to be annealed first ?
Bezel strip should only be about 0.3mm thick and fully annealed - perhaps your strip needs to be annealed. x
Thanks for this helpful video. I wonder where do you get these beautiful stones??
So many places to buy gemstones! Check out our handy suppliers list to get started, we have a good list of gemstone suppliers there - www.jewellersacademy.com/jewellery-supplies With love Jess x
Hello, what gauge bezel strip are you using for those size stones? I see someone said thickness but they may have meant gauge as well. Thx
Hi there, bezel strip most commonly is found in 3mm or 5mm wide strips and is 0.3mm thick (I think possibly 8/9 gauge?). You wouldn't really want to go much thicker than 0.4mm/0.5mm thick if you were creating your own bezel strip. Otherwise it will be too tricky to work with when stone setting. Hope that makes sense! x
From PANAMÁ thank you
Hey! Welcome! x
Hi! How do you make the bezel for the hexagonal? Did you create 2 pieces and soldered? Thanks!
Exactly the same process as the others, one strip of bezel shaped around the stone to fit x
Thank you for making this video. I've never tried the L shape idea (too scared to solder square bezels they are never the right size!) so this was a great tip. Do you think you could get away with using Hard solder for both the closing of the bezel and the soldering of the bezel to the backplate? Second question.. do you have a source for those hexagon stones? They are lovely!
Hello Annie, yes absolutely I use hard solder for the bezel and the backplate, it isn't as tricky as it seems so don't be afraid to give it a try. I brought the hexagon stones on Etsy, just searched for hexagon cabochons and gemstones they change stock all the time so it is always interesting to see what they have. Jess
What metal is used for the backing? How do you cut and manipulate that part?
Normally the entire setting will be made out of the one metal, so either all sterling silver or all gold. You will need the bezel strip which comes in either 3mm or 5mm, plus silver sheet for the base of the bezel. This is normally about 0.5mm or 0.8mm thick.
If you're keen to learn the full process, why not take a look at our Intermediate Silver & Setting Shaped Cabochons course which will guide you through each of the steps needed to make a bezel setting.
learn.jewellersacademy.com/p/intermediate-silver-and-shaped-cabochons
x
We are going to show you how to walk. But just with one foot. If you want to really know how to walk, check out my cost course on how to use the other foot. If you want to walk you must pay! Or watch any of a hundred other excellent and free videos by generous teachers on TH-cam!
What kind of torch do you use for hard solder?
No specific torch needed for hard solder, the size of the torch/flame/heat depends more on what you are working on.
Delicate work requires a small, precise flame, whereas jewellery that's a little more substantial - say a chunky bracelet or ring might need a slightly more powerful torch with a bigger flame.
Hope that helps x
I have a ring like this, in a sealed setting. Now I notice that some dust got into the bottom of the gem. Since it's a clear moonstone, it looks vert obvious. Do you have any suggestion for cleaning it?
It sounds like you need to potentially re-set the stone - which can be done if you take care when removing the stone from the bezel - not to damage the stone or setting. If you are able to remove the stone, you should be able to clean the setting and then replace and set the stone again. x
@@JewellersAcademy Thank you for your reply
Where did you get that stepped mandrel?
Various places sell these wire work stepped mandrels, www.amazon.co.uk/Quality-Wrapping-Mandrel-Jewelry-Tools/dp/B01I8RAVVY
How many gauges of bezel wire do you use?
There is only really one gauge of bezel wire which is 0.3mm thick x
How do you get it to stay on the stone?
Hey there, this tutorial only shows the process of shaping the bezel strip. Once its formed it needs to be soldered closed, and then soldered onto a base plate for setting.
If you would like to learn the whole process of stone setting and making silver jewellery check out our online courses on the links below:
The Silver Jewellery Workshop (for beginners)
jewelleryschoolonline.teachable.com/p/silver-jewellery-making-for-absolute-beginners-free-course
The Soldering Masterclass (Beg/Int)
jewelleryschoolonline.teachable.com/p/the-soldering-masterclass
Stone Setting in Silver (Beg/Int)
jewelleryschoolonline.teachable.com/p/stone-setting-in-silver
Intermediate Silver & Setting Shaped Cabochons (Int)
jewelleryschoolonline.teachable.com/p/intermediate-silver-and-shaped-cabochons
Hope that helps! x
Great
Glad you enjoyed the tutorial x
Hi Jessica!
Thank you for the video!
I contacted my supplier but they don't have those bezel setting strips. So then I have to wals and saw it myself but that is a lot of work! Do you know where I can get those silver and gold strips? And also, what is the thickness, about 0,5 mm?
Thank you!
One source for bezel strip is RioGrande Jewelry Supply: www.riogrande.com. The second is one I just found on Etsy. I have contacted them regarding some copper bezel and they also have sterling, vermeil and might have gold of other karats. I am not sure about the gold, but perhaps you can contact them directly through their site? ZDP Findings Manufacturing. www.zdp-findings.com/shop-by-material/sterling-silver-925/gallery-wire.html?p=3 -LennyW- (I am reviving old skills through online classes and was looking for a source for these metals and searching stones. I bought $149 worth today!)
Sorry to hear that Wendy. Whereabouts are you based? Have you seen our handy list of suppliers? www.jewellersacademy.com/jewellery-supplies Cookson Gold have a good supply of silver and gold bezel strips. Bezel strip comes in a variety of thicknesses, but it starts at about 0.3mm thick. Hope that helps, with love Jess x
@Wendy Verkooijen Just order 0.4 or 0.5mm silver sheet already cut to the size you need. 🙂
@@the-fiddling-fox Thank you, that's an idea👍☺️
Hi mam which glue is best jewellery making normal fancy item
you NEVER use glue when you bezel set stones.
Never ever!
3 mm thick???? Creo que te equivocas
Yes the bezel strip is 3mm wide x