I just realized I said Psalm 23! I meant Psalm 22. Here it is! “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me? Why are You so far from helping Me, And from the words of My groaning? O My God, I cry in the daytime, but You do not hear; And in the night season, and am not silent. But You are holy, Enthroned in the praises of Israel. Our fathers trusted in You; They trusted, and You delivered them. They cried to You, and were delivered; They trusted in You, and were not ashamed. But I am a worm, and no man; A reproach of men, and despised by the people. All those who see Me ridicule Me; They shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, “He trusted in the Lord, let Him rescue Him; Let Him deliver Him, since He delights in Him!” But You are He who took Me out of the womb; You made Me trust while on My mother’s breasts. I was cast upon You from birth. From My mother’s womb You have been My God. Be not far from Me, For trouble is near; For there is none to help. Many bulls have surrounded Me; Strong bulls of Bashan have encircled Me. They gape at Me with their mouths, Like a raging and roaring lion. I am poured out like water, And all My bones are out of joint; My heart is like wax; It has melted within Me. My strength is dried up like a potsherd, And My tongue clings to My jaws; You have brought Me to the dust of death. For dogs have surrounded Me; The congregation of the wicked has enclosed Me. They pierced My hands and My feet; I can count all My bones. They look and stare at Me. They divide My garments among them, And for My clothing they cast lots. But You, O Lord, do not be far from Me; O My Strength, hasten to help Me! Deliver Me from the sword, My precious life from the power of the dog. Save Me from the lion’s mouth And from the horns of the wild oxen! You have answered Me. I will declare Your name to My brethren; In the midst of the assembly I will praise You. You who fear the Lord, praise Him! All you descendants of Jacob, glorify Him, And fear Him, all you offspring of Israel! For He has not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; Nor has He hidden His face from Him; But when He cried to Him, He heard. My praise shall be of You in the great assembly; I will pay My vows before those who fear Him. The poor shall eat and be satisfied; Those who seek Him will praise the Lord. Let your heart live forever! All the ends of the world Shall remember and turn to the Lord, And all the families of the nations Shall worship before You. For the kingdom is the Lord’s, And He rules over the nations. All the prosperous of the earth Shall eat and worship; All those who go down to the dust Shall bow before Him, Even he who cannot keep himself alive. A posterity shall serve Him. It will be recounted of the Lord to the next generation, They will come and declare His righteousness to a people who will be born, That He has done this.” Psalms 22:1-31 NKJV
Thanks for taking time to share this important episode/word about how Jesus is indeed God 😊🙏🏽✨ I actually just finished reading the book of John last week and it definitely describes how Jesus really was. John Verse 20 truly hit home for me. I'm currently reading the entire book of Matthew. Then I'll read Luke as you mentioned. Also don't the camera quality isn't a problem for me. I'm more focused on the word you ladies are sharing. So keep going and don't let anything discourage you. May God continue to watch over you both!
Also thanks for sharing those reference videos and the saying that Jesus is one in being and one in spirit. I like how you showed many examples of who Jesus was using his word. Nothing can beat scripture 🔥
The approach of "a religious claim is true because people have believed it" lacks a clear or consistent method for determining who qualifies as a god. Instead, it leads to accepting all deity claims as equally valid, without providing a way to reach consensus on evaluating the wide variety of beliefs. Rather than being entirely convincing, your presentation highlights why there has been, and continues to be, such diversity in beliefs about deities. It effectively explains why some believe Jesus is God, while others do not. You make the case for what you don't intend.
@@Kenoticrunner Witnesses who walked alongside Jesus, wrote down testimonies that corroborate each other, and even went so far as to choose death for what they claimed to be the ultimate truth? That can’t just be disregarded. There’s blind belief and then there’s valid belief. 500 people claiming to see Jesus and being okay with death for that claim is not a joke. No one dies for something they know isn’t true
@@Kenoticrunner Jesus isn’t true because of the belief of the disciples. It’s because there is evidence that the disciples were not lying. Similar to how a case is proven or disproven in court? Lawyers interview witnesses and a jury / judge comes to a conclusion based on that? That’s how everything works in life…? Weird to think that that wouldn’t be a viable method of finding truth. There are plenty of people who believe lies, it’s not about their belief, it’s about whether or not they are telling the truth.
@@WhenWeAbide All you've shown is that the early believers believed. It's similar to other faith traditions' claims. Disciples weren't liars; they were believers. Whether what they believed was true has little bearing on how belief is formed or shared. Then, or now. This religion, or that.
@@RagerTheStruggler ... Nothing in Jewish tradition or prophesy imagined that, once their messiah had arrived, he'd be killed and later return. That story was an invention of grieving Jesus believers. Paul argued that the eschaton had begun with what he called a "risen Jesus", and that soon all the dead would be rising from their graves in their spirit-bodies.
@@apotropoxyz6685 That’s not true. There’s many Old Testament prophecies specifically talking about the torture and death that the Messiah would endure, but that He would rise again. Even God says in Genesis to Satan, “You shall bruise His heel, but He shall bruise your head.” In other words, Satan will hurt Jesus, but Jesus will triumph over him.
@@apotropoxyz6685 You need to go into a deeper analysis of the Torah. Go into it with a willingness to learn for yourself. With an open mind and open heart, not controlled by your culture. Everything in the Torah points to a coming Messiah and that Messiah being the Lord Jesus Christ.
@@RagerTheStruggler ... If that were true then the Jews would have converted to Christianism. As it turned out, two generations after Jesus' death, virtually the entire growth of the Jesus movement was in the non-Jewish populations.
@@samsonn94 not all Muslims believe hadith , i Believe in Quran and Quran doesn't say anything like that , don't create fantasy that a man would come and judge lol why did he die then ? He died for your sin Then why are so waiting for him . That's kinda bulshit
@@riz4584Hows that bullshit? He died for our sins so that we may have eternal life through him. Where is that bullshit? He will then come back to judge both us and the non believers again how is that bullshit? If I say to you obey my word in my house because I will return and you say you do but your actions show otherwise and when I return you say “look I obeyed your word”. Will I not need to judge you based on your actions and not what your mouth said?
I just realized I said Psalm 23! I meant Psalm 22. Here it is!
“My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me? Why are You so far from helping Me, And from the words of My groaning? O My God, I cry in the daytime, but You do not hear; And in the night season, and am not silent. But You are holy, Enthroned in the praises of Israel. Our fathers trusted in You; They trusted, and You delivered them. They cried to You, and were delivered; They trusted in You, and were not ashamed. But I am a worm, and no man; A reproach of men, and despised by the people. All those who see Me ridicule Me; They shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, “He trusted in the Lord, let Him rescue Him; Let Him deliver Him, since He delights in Him!” But You are He who took Me out of the womb; You made Me trust while on My mother’s breasts. I was cast upon You from birth. From My mother’s womb You have been My God. Be not far from Me, For trouble is near; For there is none to help. Many bulls have surrounded Me; Strong bulls of Bashan have encircled Me. They gape at Me with their mouths, Like a raging and roaring lion. I am poured out like water, And all My bones are out of joint; My heart is like wax; It has melted within Me. My strength is dried up like a potsherd, And My tongue clings to My jaws; You have brought Me to the dust of death. For dogs have surrounded Me; The congregation of the wicked has enclosed Me. They pierced My hands and My feet; I can count all My bones. They look and stare at Me. They divide My garments among them, And for My clothing they cast lots. But You, O Lord, do not be far from Me; O My Strength, hasten to help Me! Deliver Me from the sword, My precious life from the power of the dog. Save Me from the lion’s mouth And from the horns of the wild oxen! You have answered Me. I will declare Your name to My brethren; In the midst of the assembly I will praise You. You who fear the Lord, praise Him! All you descendants of Jacob, glorify Him, And fear Him, all you offspring of Israel! For He has not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; Nor has He hidden His face from Him; But when He cried to Him, He heard. My praise shall be of You in the great assembly; I will pay My vows before those who fear Him. The poor shall eat and be satisfied; Those who seek Him will praise the Lord. Let your heart live forever! All the ends of the world Shall remember and turn to the Lord, And all the families of the nations Shall worship before You. For the kingdom is the Lord’s, And He rules over the nations. All the prosperous of the earth Shall eat and worship; All those who go down to the dust Shall bow before Him, Even he who cannot keep himself alive. A posterity shall serve Him. It will be recounted of the Lord to the next generation, They will come and declare His righteousness to a people who will be born, That He has done this.”
Psalms 22:1-31 NKJV
Thanks for taking time to share this important episode/word about how Jesus is indeed God 😊🙏🏽✨ I actually just finished reading the book of John last week and it definitely describes how Jesus really was. John Verse 20 truly hit home for me. I'm currently reading the entire book of Matthew. Then I'll read Luke as you mentioned. Also don't the camera quality isn't a problem for me. I'm more focused on the word you ladies are sharing. So keep going and don't let anything discourage you. May God continue to watch over you both!
Also thanks for sharing those reference videos and the saying that Jesus is one in being and one in spirit. I like how you showed many examples of who Jesus was using his word. Nothing can beat scripture 🔥
@@GEORGIOARCADE amen! God bless you brother 🙏🏻
Great episode y’all!
@@TheSingleManPodcast thank you!
Such a good video. Thank u
@@UNIRockLIVE thank you 🙏🏻
❤
The approach of "a religious claim is true because people have believed it" lacks a clear or consistent method for determining who qualifies as a god. Instead, it leads to accepting all deity claims as equally valid, without providing a way to reach consensus on evaluating the wide variety of beliefs. Rather than being entirely convincing, your presentation highlights why there has been, and continues to be, such diversity in beliefs about deities. It effectively explains why some believe Jesus is God, while others do not. You make the case for what you don't intend.
@@Kenoticrunner we never said or implied it’s true because people have believed it.
@@WhenWeAbide Then I guess the Gospel writers can be dismissed.
@@Kenoticrunner Witnesses who walked alongside Jesus, wrote down testimonies that corroborate each other, and even went so far as to choose death for what they claimed to be the ultimate truth? That can’t just be disregarded. There’s blind belief and then there’s valid belief. 500 people claiming to see Jesus and being okay with death for that claim is not a joke. No one dies for something they know isn’t true
@@Kenoticrunner Jesus isn’t true because of the belief of the disciples. It’s because there is evidence that the disciples were not lying. Similar to how a case is proven or disproven in court? Lawyers interview witnesses and a jury / judge comes to a conclusion based on that? That’s how everything works in life…? Weird to think that that wouldn’t be a viable method of finding truth. There are plenty of people who believe lies, it’s not about their belief, it’s about whether or not they are telling the truth.
@@WhenWeAbide All you've shown is that the early believers believed. It's similar to other faith traditions' claims. Disciples weren't liars; they were believers. Whether what they believed was true has little bearing on how belief is formed or shared. Then, or now. This religion, or that.
If Jesus is almighty god, why does he need to return to finish the job he started 2,000 years ago?
The Messiah was already destined to come. Jesus fulfilled those prophecies.
@@RagerTheStruggler ... Nothing in Jewish tradition or prophesy imagined that, once their messiah had arrived, he'd be killed and later return. That story was an invention of grieving Jesus believers. Paul argued that the eschaton had begun with what he called a "risen Jesus", and that soon all the dead would be rising from their graves in their spirit-bodies.
@@apotropoxyz6685 That’s not true. There’s many Old Testament prophecies specifically talking about the torture and death that the Messiah would endure, but that He would rise again. Even God says in Genesis to Satan, “You shall bruise His heel, but He shall bruise your head.” In other words, Satan will hurt Jesus, but Jesus will triumph over him.
@@apotropoxyz6685 You need to go into a deeper analysis of the Torah.
Go into it with a willingness to learn for yourself. With an open mind and open heart, not controlled by your culture.
Everything in the Torah points to a coming Messiah and that Messiah being the Lord Jesus Christ.
@@RagerTheStruggler ... If that were true then the Jews would have converted to Christianism. As it turned out, two generations after Jesus' death, virtually the entire growth of the Jesus movement was in the non-Jewish populations.
Title should be why the jesus is not the son of God.
You say he isnt God but you believe he is going to come back and judge all humans one day, who can judge except for God?
@@samsonn94 he's not gonna come , Only God Almighty will judge us.
@@riz4584 it's in your hadith that he is going to come, you don't even know your own religion
@@samsonn94 not all Muslims believe hadith , i Believe in Quran and Quran doesn't say anything like that , don't create fantasy that a man would come and judge lol why did he die then ? He died for your sin
Then why are so waiting for him .
That's kinda bulshit
@@riz4584Hows that bullshit? He died for our sins so that we may have eternal life through him. Where is that bullshit? He will then come back to judge both us and the non believers again how is that bullshit?
If I say to you obey my word in my house because I will return and you say you do but your actions show otherwise and when I return you say “look I obeyed your word”. Will I not need to judge you based on your actions and not what your mouth said?