Crew cab short bed 97 f250hd diesel should be 16 gallon metal front tank and the 19 gallon metal rear tank. I need to remove my filler necks and mod them for better flow I can barely get any fuel in the truck right now. Also need to replace the selector valve. I'm considering a universal filler neck kit because all of the filler necks I can find say they are for the gas engine. Why are there so many combinations on these trucks. 3 different cabs 2 different beds like 5 different gas tanks and sending unit setups 😂 it's out of control.
Someone had too much free time at the engineering desk. Haha. I’ve seen the inside fill hose break off and it won’t let fuel go in because the air coming out makes an air bubble. If that’s the case, it’s “repairable” depending on where the inner hose is broken. Buy an OEM valve. It’s worth it. The aftermarket ones are cheaper, but fail quickly.
@@GarrettsOBSGarage will do on the OEM valve. Appreciate that advice. I'll be stoked if I can fix the filler necks. I'll take them out and remove that outter hose to see where the hold up is. While they're out I saw this dude drilled out his fill port vent area with additional venting holes and he was very happy with the results.
Sending units will be soon after I get the refueling sorted out but no need to drop the tanks for this first step of exploratory surgery. Appreciate the advice again brother thank you!!
Hey Garrett, I can offer a little insight into the question of the 23 gallon tank. I have a 93 single cab long bed F250 that was originally a 4wd manual gas truck. I swapped my truck with the drive train from a 96 auto/4wd diesel and ran into the issue of the original 19 gallon tank not fitting. I didnt know about the 23 gallon tank at the time so I ended up swapping in a 16 gallon tank (I didn't know about the differences in the sending unit between 16 and 19 either so that explains why I keep having fuel starvation issues at 1/4 tank on the front one lol). I posted on a forum where a helpful user gave me some pics of his truck and some service manual diagrams. Best I can figure is that the 4wd single cab long bed trucks have clearance issues with the transfer case (especially the 96-97 BW 4407). Im not sure but it could be that the auto trans is longer than the manual, so it may have only been equipped in auto transmission single cab 4wd long bed trucks.
I’ve seen 1356 and 4407 trucks with this tank. As well as manual and auto. Ironically, the manual truck was a 4407. And the auto was a 1356. However, there is more space between the front of the tank to the transfer case with a plastic tank. It’s physically shorter. 1/4 tank issues are usually the fuel siphon hat being broken off. But the wrong sender can definitely mess up some things.
Great video Garrett, definitely lays it out clearly. They definitely have all sorts of tank combinations. My 86 f150 4x4 is front tank only, 94 f150 is dual tank but small tank in the front, and my 97 f250 is the normal long bed combo. The tanks can definitely get confusing
I'd think the poly front tank just goes back to 1994, since the sender listing is 1994-97 and that's the only application for it. Some ghetto bricknose trucks were rear tank only, a friend had a 89 F150XL 2wd long bed like that. Weird. Not even like it was a shortbed and they were saving to have two different bed side configurations for a single tank.
My 1996 f250 4wd with a 5.8l and e40d rated at over 8600 lbs. Has a 16 gallon saddle tank. Some tank reolacement companys has this as the proper tank for a 5.8l only.
You can contact patriot welding in Kentucky. I know he’s made tanks for the C&C trucks before. I mentioned him in my one video on the 1995 F250 exterior.
Being 1994.5 year was the beginning of the computerized diesel, id gess that was the beginning of diesels with in tank pumps. And the poly tanks. . As all 1994 and older diesels are strictly a suction fuel supply to the side of the engine. There sure are more tank sizes listed in the owners manual though.
All diesels in the OBS era are suction style with external fuel pumps. The tanks listed in the owners manual cover “safe” capacity refill. That’s why you’re seeing so many. Ford lists the 16 gallon as 16.5 gallon in the owners manual but when parts searching in their systems, It’s listed as a 16 gallon. The 19 gallon tanks are listed as 18.2, 19, and 20. All are referred to as 19 gallon in parts searching. The 23 gallon is listed as 22 in the manual. But also in parts systems it’s listed as 23. These tanks all carry the same part numbers in amongst themselves in my research. So it was easier to call them out as they are found in parts systems. It’s much less confusing and a lot easier for the end user to buy parts. For what it’s worth, it doesn’t list the poly tank in a 5 speed, but I’ve seen trucks with them.
I don’t have one off hand, however, I’ve tried finding one for my truck which is the same, and was unable to. I’ll try and do more digging, but I came up short last time sadly.
@@GarrettsOBSGarage lol my wiring harness was already butchered, it’s just 2 wire with bullet connectors, and as far as I know, only one was plugged in, and my fuel gauge still worked
Depends on who's got it. If someone knows what it is, and has all the bits 100-150. If someone just wants it gone, probably 20-50, but if someone is proud of it, I can only imagine...
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I just needed to figure out what I have so I can get sending units ordered 🎉 nice thank you man
Awesome! Glad it helped you out.
Crew cab short bed 97 f250hd diesel should be 16 gallon metal front tank and the 19 gallon metal rear tank. I need to remove my filler necks and mod them for better flow I can barely get any fuel in the truck right now. Also need to replace the selector valve. I'm considering a universal filler neck kit because all of the filler necks I can find say they are for the gas engine. Why are there so many combinations on these trucks. 3 different cabs 2 different beds like 5 different gas tanks and sending unit setups 😂 it's out of control.
Someone had too much free time at the engineering desk. Haha. I’ve seen the inside fill hose break off and it won’t let fuel go in because the air coming out makes an air bubble. If that’s the case, it’s “repairable” depending on where the inner hose is broken.
Buy an OEM valve. It’s worth it. The aftermarket ones are cheaper, but fail quickly.
@@GarrettsOBSGarage will do on the OEM valve. Appreciate that advice. I'll be stoked if I can fix the filler necks. I'll take them out and remove that outter hose to see where the hold up is. While they're out I saw this dude drilled out his fill port vent area with additional venting holes and he was very happy with the results.
Sending units will be soon after I get the refueling sorted out but no need to drop the tanks for this first step of exploratory surgery. Appreciate the advice again brother thank you!!
Hey Garrett, I can offer a little insight into the question of the 23 gallon tank. I have a 93 single cab long bed F250 that was originally a 4wd manual gas truck. I swapped my truck with the drive train from a 96 auto/4wd diesel and ran into the issue of the original 19 gallon tank not fitting. I didnt know about the 23 gallon tank at the time so I ended up swapping in a 16 gallon tank (I didn't know about the differences in the sending unit between 16 and 19 either so that explains why I keep having fuel starvation issues at 1/4 tank on the front one lol). I posted on a forum where a helpful user gave me some pics of his truck and some service manual diagrams. Best I can figure is that the 4wd single cab long bed trucks have clearance issues with the transfer case (especially the 96-97 BW 4407). Im not sure but it could be that the auto trans is longer than the manual, so it may have only been equipped in auto transmission single cab 4wd long bed trucks.
I’ve seen 1356 and 4407 trucks with this tank. As well as manual and auto.
Ironically, the manual truck was a 4407. And the auto was a 1356.
However, there is more space between the front of the tank to the transfer case with a plastic tank. It’s physically shorter.
1/4 tank issues are usually the fuel siphon hat being broken off. But the wrong sender can definitely mess up some things.
Great video Garrett, definitely lays it out clearly. They definitely have all sorts of tank combinations. My 86 f150 4x4 is front tank only, 94 f150 is dual tank but small tank in the front, and my 97 f250 is the normal long bed combo. The tanks can definitely get confusing
Yeah. It’s very confusing for some. And some guys over complicate it.
I'd think the poly front tank just goes back to 1994, since the sender listing is 1994-97 and that's the only application for it.
Some ghetto bricknose trucks were rear tank only, a friend had a 89 F150XL 2wd long bed like that. Weird. Not even like it was a shortbed and they were saving to have two different bed side configurations for a single tank.
I’ve never looked the sender part number up.
And yeah, Ford had some interesting ideas on the tanks over the years.
My 1996 f250 4wd with a 5.8l and e40d rated at over 8600 lbs. Has a 16 gallon saddle tank. Some tank reolacement companys has this as the proper tank for a 5.8l only.
I had a long bed 5.8 with the 16 gallon tank as well. Never figured out why they thought that was a good idea.
Had a glimmer of hope id get an idea other than fabbing a custom tank for ny cab & chassis but regardless good info
Sadly. That is the only good option.
You can contact patriot welding in Kentucky. I know he’s made tanks for the C&C trucks before. I mentioned him in my one video on the 1995 F250 exterior.
Being 1994.5 year was the beginning of the computerized diesel, id gess that was the beginning of diesels with in tank pumps. And the poly tanks.
.
As all 1994 and older diesels are strictly a suction fuel supply to the side of the engine.
There sure are more tank sizes listed in the owners manual though.
All diesels in the OBS era are suction style with external fuel pumps.
The tanks listed in the owners manual cover “safe” capacity refill. That’s why you’re seeing so many. Ford lists the 16 gallon as 16.5 gallon in the owners manual but when parts searching in their systems, It’s listed as a 16 gallon. The 19 gallon tanks are listed as 18.2, 19, and 20. All are referred to as 19 gallon in parts searching. The 23 gallon is listed as 22 in the manual. But also in parts systems it’s listed as 23. These tanks all carry the same part numbers in amongst themselves in my research. So it was easier to call them out as they are found in parts systems. It’s much less confusing and a lot easier for the end user to buy parts.
For what it’s worth, it doesn’t list the poly tank in a 5 speed, but I’ve seen trucks with them.
I have a cab and chassis 97,with the rear poly tank.Would you have a part number for the pump and sending unit. Thanks so much for the information
I don’t have one off hand, however, I’ve tried finding one for my truck which is the same, and was unable to. I’ll try and do more digging, but I came up short last time sadly.
So, the 95 F Superduty cab and chassis uses the narrow poly 19 gallon rear tank and the steel 19 gallon front tank? Just confirming...
That is correct.
I have a plastic rear tank in my 1985 f350 cab chassis, trying to find a sending unit
That could be very difficult. I don’t think they changed the hole size for the poly tanks. But finding one that’ll plug in will be a challenge.
@@GarrettsOBSGarage lol my wiring harness was already butchered, it’s just 2 wire with bullet connectors, and as far as I know, only one was plugged in, and my fuel gauge still worked
At that point. I don’t really have any suggestions for you. Never know what some people have done to a truck before you’ve gotten it!
Hey Garrett what would you think a plastic front tank like that would cost if one could be found?
Depends on who's got it. If someone knows what it is, and has all the bits 100-150. If someone just wants it gone, probably 20-50, but if someone is proud of it, I can only imagine...
That’s why it dies at 1/4 tank!
Every time! The pickup is a common issue.