Thanks. I'm about the make the plunge and I really appreciate your comments. I have 9.99 fingers, the .01 loss, though pretty minor, made me immediately sell my old saw and I'm in the market. I will settle only for one of the Saw Stops. It is just which one. Thanks.
Wow!! Great explanation and detailed differences between the two saws. I’ve always had my eye on the saw stop jobsite and this new model the Pro job site really hits a home run I’ll probably go out and get one here in the next week or so. Thanks again for a fantastic review it really convinced me I’m making the right purchase. Excited to get that saw home and start cutting some wood!!
Hey Ron. Those extra stand legs on the side are very useful for staging material to cut, or that has just been cut, or cut off scraps, or your battery blower (for dusting off yourself or the saw or material). I have a dewalt saw with built in stand and it has a spot like this on each side. Very handy for me.
Hi Ron. Thanks for the video. I do intend to buy this saw within the next couple of months. I’d like to point out though, that the improvements, though welcome, do not represent “better value for money”. The “Pro” ( in Australia) costs Au$300 more than the original - you get the extras, but you pay for them.
Ron, how soon can we expect your review of the SawStop Jobsite Pro? I am planning to buy it unless Festool announces on Wednesday their component table saw will become available in the US!
1) Those extra bars you talk about at @1:24 also work as handles to wheel the setup saw around without needing to break it down. 2) How do you deal with the quick raise when doing joinery? I find it hard to make small adjustments due to the aggressive gearing.
I read on SawStop website that the JSS Pro arbor will accommodate a dado which is useful occasionally. Also, I am assuming the carriage for your station bench holds the JSS Pro??
Hey Ron I really like your setup and videos. I'm partial to Festool track saws and I'm looking at a SS JSS. However I'm concerned about the power will it be able to handle 8/4 maple and walnut etc.
I'm currently using a Bosch 4100 (with their stand). Its OK. I really do want the safety features and better ergonomics of the Sawstop, but what I really REALLY want is better dust collection. How is the dust collection on the Pro? I'm using a fein.
2nd hand comment, but there is a video by Black Swamp Carpentry that shows a dual setup with a Y-connector by Festool that also is said to work with a Fein. It looks like it works very well.
@@jackh.4016 Thanks! I bought the sawstop, and have played with lots of Y connectors and dust collection. For some cuts it can be pretty good, for others it isn't, but tbf those are the kind where your blade really wants to throw it out the front. However, the fence drives me nuts. It is so hard to bump just a little
Hi Paul.. I am particular about table flatness. Have you checked your Saw Stop top with a straight edge and feeler gauges, side to side and front to back. My first consideration in buying a portable saw is flatness and accuracy and secondarily, and a bonus worth the additional price... the brake. Thanks.
Great review. They look identical to the untrained eye. Thanks for pointing out the differences. Would you say this is worth the extra expense? Understanding that having all my fingers is priceless; beyond that this saw is more robust than other contractor saws? It appears to be a bigger and a more robust saw but still portable.
The saw itself is the best portable saw I have ever seen or used. I have owned multiple DeWalt, Bosch, and Makita and would choose the SS hands down for 3 reasons: Fence, 1 turn blade height adjustment, blase angle adjustment. BUT! even if all saws were equal, I personally would not own a portable table saw without the BRAKE. The brake closes the deal for me.
I really enjoy your videos. I have built your total station. It’s very handy. I’m thinking about buying the Sawstop Pro table-saw. What’s the cut quality like? I would like it to be completely smooth. You know, no blade marks. Thanks
Great video. Question, considering the jobsite pro and have built your PSS and cradle, Is the size and weight of the sawstop (113 lbs) too large to cradle and hang off table like many of us have done with smaller dewalts, etc.
@@chrislewin19 The Smart Cradle plans are in the store. They are specifically for the small Dewalt, but I have a video showing how to use the plans and adjust the to work with any bench top tool. I used the plans to build not only for Dewalt, but SawStop JSP, SS CTS, Kreg Jig, Ridgid sander and more
Hi Ron , Any issues with the movement in the fence on this saw , I went to purchase one today and was concerned about fence movement ,now im thinking of getting the contractor saw with the cast top and different fence as it seemed solid in comparsion ,a bit tricky to bring to ste though given the weight .
I have had no issues with fence deflection. In real world daily use I would gain no benefit from a heaver saw, but would not be willing to deal with moving a heavier saw around. Comparing the fences makes no real world differences in the production and quality of my finished projects. When it comes to the big stuff like plywood, it is time to pull out the track saw which outperforms any table saw unless you have a sliding saw with 10' stroke. These are my personal views based on my daily use in home construction and remodeling. If I were a wood worker with a static shop, I would have a different set of needs and tools to solve them. Hope this helps, Ron
Hey Ron, thanks for all your great videos! Have you found using metric and measuring to the blade rather than using the imperial scale, a bit annoying at times? When I’m measuring to the blade with my metric tape and go to lock the fence, it will square up and change my measurement. I’m wondering if you know of a way to have the fence sit square when unlocked so this doesn’t happen. I’ve talked to SS about this but they haven’t been too helpful.
Sawstop now includes in their instructions to pull the fence toward you , then lock the fence while maintaining that pull. this supposedly stops that problem. I haven't actually tried that yet, since my JSS PRO only arrived today.
I have about 60 or so filled and 50 empty. We are in transition currently renting a furnished 1 bedroom apartment. Everything we own is in our 1000' shop with room for the Smart Woodshop Trailer, F-150, and our Prius. For Americans, I think we have less stuff than 99% of the population.
Ron Paulk I’ve just never seen that many. Question about your workshop. I move my workshop between my basement and detached garage depending on the season. Is the workshop in your trailer adaptable to a basement. Most important to me at this point is maneuverability, dust collection (I have several Festools) and safety (thinking about adding a job site saw). Thanks in advance.
@@TheSmartWoodshop Thanks Ron, I have also read about the fence issue and seen a sloppy fence at my local dealer. I watched your video on fence adjustment for the older model. If its the same process I'll go ahead and pull the trigger on this saw. Thanks for taking the time to provide all of the information on your channel
You can't really say the included blade guard that comes with the PRO saw is "free" if you're paying hundreds of dollars more for the PRO saw compared to the original jobsite saw. That's apples vs oranges.
I would watch more of your videos if I didn't have to suffer though through your self-aggrandizement at the beginning of each one. Why not put them at the end like Stumpy Nubs so that those have seen it many times can move on. Unless we are really stupid, we can remember your plans are available and that you have a store to support the channel.
He likely does this because many times folks are watching his channel for the first time. It is also a way for him to support his business and video production. You can easily skip it by double tapping the right side of the video three times.
Thanks. I'm about the make the plunge and I really appreciate your comments. I have 9.99 fingers, the .01 loss, though pretty minor, made me immediately sell my old saw and I'm in the market. I will settle only for one of the Saw Stops. It is just which one. Thanks.
Wow!! Great explanation and detailed differences between the two saws.
I’ve always had my eye on the saw stop jobsite and this new model the Pro job site really hits a home run I’ll probably go out and get one here in the next week or so.
Thanks again for a fantastic review it really convinced me I’m making the right purchase.
Excited to get that saw home and start cutting some wood!!
Hey Ron. Those extra stand legs on the side are very useful for staging material to cut, or that has just been cut, or cut off scraps, or your battery blower (for dusting off yourself or the saw or material). I have a dewalt saw with built in stand and it has a spot like this on each side. Very handy for me.
Great job showing us the new features of the Saw Stop Pro, Ron. I used your link to add it to my farm shop list of upcoming items. Thanks!
Interesting. I have the old Sawstop but it's on the newer stand. The price of the Pro is also the price of the old saw plus the dust-collecting guard.
Hi Ron, looks like that old saw is taking up valuable shop space... I'll take it off your hands for ya :)
Hi Ron. Thanks for the video.
I do intend to buy this saw within the next couple of months.
I’d like to point out though, that the improvements, though welcome, do not represent “better value for money”. The “Pro” ( in Australia) costs Au$300 more than the original - you get the extras, but you pay for them.
In the US, the Pro saw the price is the same at the original so it is a better value.
You provide great and informative videos. And you give me hair envy.
Just a note on the stand. I have a newer Jobsite - non pro model and it has the extra stand legs.
Ron, how soon can we expect your review of the SawStop Jobsite Pro? I am planning to buy it unless Festool announces on Wednesday their component table saw will become available in the US!
You didn't mention that the fence will slice your finger wide open, pretty funny for a saw that's biggest selling point is you cannot be cut!!!!🤣🤣🤣
Do you use a database for all the bins stacked against the wall?
1) Those extra bars you talk about at @1:24 also work as handles to wheel the setup saw around without needing to break it down.
2) How do you deal with the quick raise when doing joinery? I find it hard to make small adjustments due to the aggressive gearing.
I read on SawStop website that the JSS Pro arbor will accommodate a dado which is useful occasionally. Also, I am assuming the carriage for your station bench holds the JSS Pro??
It does. Many of my videos demonstrate it.
Hey Ron I really like your setup and videos. I'm partial to Festool track saws and I'm looking at a SS JSS. However I'm concerned about the power will it be able to handle 8/4 maple and walnut etc.
I'm currently using a Bosch 4100 (with their stand). Its OK. I really do want the safety features and better ergonomics of the Sawstop, but what I really REALLY want is better dust collection.
How is the dust collection on the Pro? I'm using a fein.
2nd hand comment, but there is a video by Black Swamp Carpentry that shows a dual setup with a Y-connector by Festool that also is said to work with a Fein. It looks like it works very well.
@@jackh.4016 Thanks! I bought the sawstop, and have played with lots of Y connectors and dust collection. For some cuts it can be pretty good, for others it isn't, but tbf those are the kind where your blade really wants to throw it out the front. However, the fence drives me nuts. It is so hard to bump just a little
Hi Paul.. I am particular about table flatness. Have you checked your Saw Stop top with a straight edge and feeler
gauges, side to side and front to back. My first consideration in buying a portable saw is flatness and accuracy and secondarily, and a bonus worth the additional price... the brake. Thanks.
Great review. They look identical to the untrained eye. Thanks for pointing out the differences. Would you say this is worth the extra expense? Understanding that having all my fingers is priceless; beyond that this saw is more robust than other contractor saws? It appears to be a bigger and a more robust saw but still portable.
The saw itself is the best portable saw I have ever seen or used. I have owned multiple DeWalt, Bosch, and Makita and would choose the SS hands down for 3 reasons: Fence, 1 turn blade height adjustment, blase angle adjustment. BUT! even if all saws were equal, I personally would not own a portable table saw without the BRAKE. The brake closes the deal for me.
I really enjoy your videos. I have built your total station. It’s very handy. I’m thinking about buying the Sawstop Pro table-saw. What’s the cut quality like? I would like it to be completely smooth. You know, no blade marks.
Thanks
Great video. Question, considering the jobsite pro and have built your PSS and cradle, Is the size and weight of the sawstop (113 lbs) too large to cradle and hang off table like many of us have done with smaller dewalts, etc.
Ha! Chris I have many videos, in fact, all videos the past two years using the JSPro in a cradle😎🤙
@@TheSmartWoodshop thx, happy and embarrassed though. Do you have cradle dimensions, plans that are sharable for the pro, would gladly pay for them?
@@chrislewin19 The Smart Cradle plans are in the store. They are specifically for the small Dewalt, but I have a video showing how to use the plans and adjust the to work with any bench top tool. I used the plans to build not only for Dewalt, but SawStop JSP, SS CTS, Kreg Jig, Ridgid sander and more
You should do comparison from the original kapex to the reb kapex mitersaw
That would be great, but my OLD Kapex is still going strong 10 years in and don't need to update. Maybe FT will loan me one?
Nice review! Who makes the shorts? Thx
Hi Ron , Any issues with the movement in the fence on this saw , I went to purchase one today and was concerned about fence movement ,now im thinking of getting the contractor saw with the cast top and different fence as it seemed solid in comparsion ,a bit tricky to bring to ste though given the weight .
I have had no issues with fence deflection. In real world daily use I would gain no benefit from a heaver saw, but would not be willing to deal with moving a heavier saw around. Comparing the fences makes no real world differences in the production and quality of my finished projects. When it comes to the big stuff like plywood, it is time to pull out the track saw which outperforms any table saw unless you have a sliding saw with 10' stroke. These are my personal views based on my daily use in home construction and remodeling. If I were a wood worker with a static shop, I would have a different set of needs and tools to solve them. Hope this helps, Ron
@@TheSmartWoodshop Thank you Ron, very well explained . Keep up the good work 👍
Will a bit of rain on the blade trip the brake?
Is the table smooth or textured? How easily does the wood slide across table?
Is the table made from plastic? Looking at purchasing one of these or the Festool TKS80. Can't decide between the two.
The table is aluminum. The TKS80 isn't available in the USA so I have no experience with it.
😎🤙
@@TheSmartWoodshop Thanks Ron, it's much appreciated. I ended up going with the TKS80 because the SawStop Job Site Pro can't fit in my car :(
Hey Ron, thanks for all your great videos! Have you found using metric and measuring to the blade rather than using the imperial scale, a bit annoying at times? When I’m measuring to the blade with my metric tape and go to lock the fence, it will square up and change my measurement. I’m wondering if you know of a way to have the fence sit square when unlocked so this doesn’t happen. I’ve talked to SS about this but they haven’t been too helpful.
Sawstop now includes in their instructions to pull the fence toward you , then lock the fence while maintaining that pull. this supposedly stops that problem. I haven't actually tried that yet, since my JSS PRO only arrived today.
Good Lord!! How many bins do you have in that garage?!
I have about 60 or so filled and 50 empty. We are in transition currently renting a furnished 1 bedroom apartment. Everything we own is in our 1000' shop with room for the Smart Woodshop Trailer, F-150, and our Prius. For Americans, I think we have less stuff than 99% of the population.
Ron Paulk I’ve just never seen that many. Question about your workshop. I move my workshop between my basement and detached garage depending on the season. Is the workshop in your trailer adaptable to a basement. Most important to me at this point is maneuverability, dust collection (I have several Festools) and safety (thinking about adding a job site saw). Thanks in advance.
Those handles stick out quite a ways... do they fold away?
They don't fold nor do the stick out!
Ron, I recall the original saw having flex or deflection in the fence front to rear. Has that been resolved?
My SawStop Pro doesn't have any deflection, but neither does my original saw and I had two of those.
@@TheSmartWoodshop Thanks Ron, I have also read about the fence issue and seen a sloppy fence at my local dealer. I watched your video on fence adjustment for the older model. If its the same process I'll go ahead and pull the trigger on this saw. Thanks for taking the time to provide all of the information on your channel
Sold the rv and Element?
Did I buy the right one
Either is a great saw.
holy crop dude i hope you never need anything in the bottom clear totes at the start of your vid
How do you get companies to send you tools?
Get enough views and demonstrate a knowledge of how to use them OR be a woman.
You can't really say the included blade guard that comes with the PRO saw is "free" if you're paying hundreds of dollars more for the PRO saw compared to the original jobsite saw. That's apples vs oranges.
The pro is the same price as the original saw, so apples to apples.
And what Ron meant was “included”. This is what companies really mean when advertising something as a “free” bonus.
you are little bit far away sir...
I would watch more of your videos if I didn't have to suffer though through your self-aggrandizement at the beginning of each one. Why not put them at the end like Stumpy Nubs so that those have seen it many times can move on. Unless we are really stupid, we can remember your plans are available and that you have a store to support the channel.
He likely does this because many times folks are watching his channel for the first time. It is also a way for him to support his business and video production. You can easily skip it by double tapping the right side of the video three times.
Ever heard of fast forward? That is what I do with advertising.