Is SawStop Actually Safer?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 เม.ย. 2023
- Fleshing sensing technology that stops a table saw's blade on contact sounds great! But it definitely has its critics that feel it's moreso a false sense of security that can lead to a greater chance of injury. After 18 months with my SawStop, here's my take on the key arguments against it.
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The "sawstops make you complacent" argument has always annoyed me. You can get complacent at any saw. The best of us can have a moment of distraction easily at any time. Might as well have the safety device there just in case. Of course it's all theoretical for me, no way I could afford a sawstop right now 😂
Because I’m concerned about becoming complacent, I got rid of my Sawstop. I also removed the seatbelts from my car. God knows I don’t want to be caught being complacent behind the wheel of a car. Btw - I also removed the bannisters from all of the staircases in my house. Can’t be too careful there.
I went to a voc tec high school in the 1960s. I will never forget when a fellow student was ripping a 1"x18"x18" piece of birds eye maple. The board raised on the blade (no riving knife) and flew back about 20-feet at high speed, hitting Anthony N. across the top of skull. Oh my did that head wound bleed! He needed more than a hundred stitches and was hospitalized for a couple weeks. This was a bone chilling lesson that I will never forget!
I own a PCS175 and I bought mine second hand. I am a weekend warrior woodworker and owned a cabinet saw and contractor saw prior to owning this saw. The Sawstop is a well built machine and is a joy to use. I am likely more careful than I ever was cause I just dont want to trip that brake and join the "club". It gives me peace of mind knowing that if ever I get complacent or do have an accident, the injury should be minimal. I am also aware that the saw won't save me from a bad kickback, although the riving knife, proper alignment and good technique reduce the chance of kickback. I still respect the saw, just as I do all of my tools. And when I did not have the financial resources to buy the saw, I came up with reasons to not buy one, and once I saved up for the saw, I found reasons why I should own one! I always knew deep down that this was the right saw for me.
Another good and informative video. Keep up the good work Caleb. Stay safe.
I knew the Sawstop was a good idea from the original press release, but already had a table saw. Then I started working on a canoe. For a year, the saw was shoved in a corner and I used a hand saw a lot. When I could use it again, I just was not as comfortable with it. Your spouse/partner/mom wants you to have a Sawstop too. BTW, if you do stick your hand in the blade they'll send you a new cartridge. Just not for an accidental trip like cutting into an aluminum miter gauge.
I kept going to bed with lit candles really close to my drapes and one day I thought, "this needs to end" so I threw away my smoke detector and now I'm much better with fire safety.
I upgraded to a PCS a couple weeks ago after using an old jobsite saw for a few months after getting into the hobby. The cost of a losing a finger is more than just the medical bills. It impacts your livelihood. My work would severely be impacted until I could replace decades of muscle memory if I lost even a single finger.
you hit all the points so fully and eloquently. I too, in the opportunity to use a different brand of table saw, almost feel terrified to do so, or at least like an alarm is going off in my head the entire time I'm using it. I have had a Sawstop for over 7 years now, and I have a second one now for jobsite and secondary shop work. I still have to be cautious while using the saw because you can still get injured and I have before (contacted the blade 3 times in 7 years, but two of those were just silly goofs). I think its more humble to realize I am imperfect and able to screw up no matter how experienced I am as a professional. Heck, there is always that infamous "one last cut" on friday afternoon that ends up going very badly. Besides cost, I've never heard a non-punkish reason to not get a Sawstop. I dropped $3600 on mine when I was poor and starting my business, but it was worth every penny immediately. And it gives my wife peace of mind too!
Great video with great information. I've never understood how ANYone could ever recommend to NOT get a Sawstop (if able).
I have had my saw stop for about a year and I have not found my technique change really at all. I don’t want the brake the kick off and always try to assume it’s not there. It’s insurance not part of your workflow. Saying it makes you complacent is like saying having airbags on cars makes people more likely to run into things. My new saw also added a riving knife and much better blade guard so that was a huge plus in addition to the flesh sensor. Kickback can still happen but the sawstop design minimizes it to a much higher degree than my old 20 year old saw. I looked at many 3 to 5hp saws and in the end decided the Sawstop was the best choice for me. I have not regretted my decision at all and the sting of spending extra on the saw is long gone while the joy and insurance of using it lives on.
Great video! 👏🏻
I think for most people, particularly those making comments on youtube videos or online forums, it comes down to simple cost. Sawstops are expensive. Yes, they are great saws outside of the safety feature, but that actually is part of the issue. It's my understanding that one of the reasons why Sawstops are so well built is because they need to be in order to deal with the inertia from the safety feature engaging. That's a lot of kinetic energy that needs to be absorbed by the saw in a fraction of a second, so you need heavy duty components to be able to survive and continue working once you install a new brake/blade.
One day I'll have one! Very end of video was what I really needed. 😂
If you think the safety mechanism lets you ignore safety and get closer to the blade, that's a "you" problem, not a SawStop problem.
I just bought my first table saw for professional use. I have some experience with a table saw, but due to a fear of injuries I have been using a plunge saw instead. I’ll be returning my table saw and buying one with a sawstop feature (festool since Im from Europe). A moment of carelessness shouldn’t result in a few less digits, so it’s worth the money. Im a sceptic individual, hence I don’t trust the sawstop feature and will use it as so.
Really good points.
If you are out of the way of any potential kickback, does it matter if you stand to the right or left of the blade?
I know this is 11 months old, but I’m considering buying a cabinet saw and I was wondering if there is reduced risk of kickback with dense wood with a 3 hp saw over a 1.75 hp. I know technique and attention to detail are the biggest factors, but does a more powerful motor help clear everything better and leave a larger/cleaner path than a motor that may get bogged down?
This all makes perfect sense. Thanks.