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the fastest way to level is to start as a motivator and in the offseason training you get like anywhere from like 9k-20k expreience as a coach. Makes leveling faster
So start as a motivator oc at Georgia and do the same thing in the vid?
@@stkbloc9717 it actually better to go to UNC. The majority of abilities the Georgia coaches have that you get a discount on aren’t worth it. The packages at UNC are better. And it makes more sense to starts as a DC if you are wanting those offensive abilities.
I have experimented with this quite a bit.
With this method it is best to hold your points and wait until the other coordinators buys what you want so you can get it cheaper. If you really want to max out your coach build a CPU coach up to what you win two natty’s and unlock the ceo bundle you want then retire and become their coordinator and get all of those same traits at a discount. It gave me more the 60+ points with the second coach.
Some tips would be start off at SJSU and just unlock the archetypes because that coach has it discounted for you then promote to a CEO coach. If you are just trying to max out and thats all you care about then take on a team like Cincy or Boston college, they have the most rivals and speeds up the points.
Also the building a coach and retiring him to build off of only works on CPU coach’s user generated coach’s disappear. I just take the lowest rank coach i can and build him how i want it. I suggest Coastal Carolina OC as he has the elite recruiter already unlocked.
So win two nattys as a head coach first, then join Georgia as their dc?
@@Mr-Spood simple rule is cpu coaches you can rank up and make them cpu again and their points stay user created disappear.
And what did was ranked up a lower ranked CPU coach just how I wanted and then won two nattys with him as a coordinator. Moved him to an HC job unlocked CEO finished adding points till he was 50. Than I fired his coordinator retired and accepted the coordinator job with a coach I started two years prior at that school. Now everything you unlock is discounted.
Also I recently found out iBonus is to also fire the other coordinator. When you have that perk unlocked they will mimic the HC tree and give you another point off so instead of like 5 it’s 3. I think I got more than 100 extra.
If this wasn’t clear feel free to ask it can be somewhat confusing
Ole Miss is easier, better team and you can get towards elite recruiter faster
@@Thetangibletim could you potentially make a video showing how you do it?
i also learned you can get your points back from CEO and Program builder if you grab another job as a coordinator job
Imagine if Saban never retired he would be incredible for cheesing
He would be insane lol.
Important to know that both the HC and the other coordinator need to have the tier unlocked for it to be 3 pts. If only one has it, it's 4 pts
Yes, I should have mentioned this. That’s why I had mentioned you could just get the CEO and then leave and hire coordinators to your liking to get what you want otherwise.
Georgia has the discount and the higher chance at insta-commit. With insta commit you can cheese recruiting to easily get top 5 draft classes.
UNC doesn’t have the insta commit, and Clemson doesn’t have the discounts.
Good points, this is helpful from the recruiting side of it!
@@PoodleGaming Love your vids. Goal is to get to lvl 50 with as efficient point spending as possible, then hop onto the team I want to play legit.
Paid 100$ for the game, want to be able to actually use the coach perks and play the way I want instead of grind, I’m just a casual 😂
This is what I did a few days ago. And yeah Georgia is by far the best team to use as a "leech" for this method. I started a custom D Coord on GA, simmed two seasons, and since we won two Natties in those seasons, I'm already a level 50 Def coord and haven't spent a single point. Now my plan is to stick around until I'm offered a HC at whatever school I feel like going to. In this case, I'm waiting for Hawaii to come asking for me. Then I'll spend my points to build myself however I want and then take the HC job and turn them into a god tier school.
This method is ridiculous, especially if you go around leeching other packages with your own CEO bundle package after the fact. Can easily end up with a coach that’s Almsot twice as good as a level 50 coach.
@@PoodleGaming It's the best way to cheese the system for sure!!!
does it matter what coach xp speed you have set?
You can open another User as the Hawaii Head Coach at the start of the season and then accept a job elsewhere at the end .. therefore you force the opening
@rell108 Lmao of all the gimmicks I've been doing, I never actually thought about that one 😅
Clemson doesn't have the bundle discount. NC has the most discounts if you pick DC. Georgia you get more discounts overall as DC but it costs 4. You pick OC and you get less discounts overall but it costs 3.
You could probably get the other coordinator fired so you can maximize the discounts before you move on.
Idk why I thought Clemson had the package. Are there anyone else besides Georgia and NC?
@@PoodleGamingno only coaches who have won two national titles as HC, Mack Brown (UNC) & Kirby Smart (UGA). Honestly it should include Dabo 🤔..
@@PoodleGamingit’s because you just watched another TH-camrs video and copied what they said. #Fender
@@REDSavage369 I was thinking the same thing. I watched his stream when he was figuring the whole thing out.
It's important to note that when you are force winning stuff if you aren't the helmet on the right you are not the home team.. I lost the natty even tho it said vs which usually means you are the home team but apparently not lost 2 games to the bullshit
Yup, I was confused by this early on in the CFB season. But I’ve since learned.
So I learned that every time you go from HC to OC or DC you get points back that you spent in Program Builder and CEO. They should have just made it where If you go to a new school you have the option of starting over with the coach build out entirely
That would have been cool, and a nice way to reset your tree.
I basically use the the force win cheese for 3 seasons HC w/ motivator … he usually maxes out with the offseason so boost like they said.
But I use a team builder team with 99ovr so nati auto anyway.. only thing needed is recruit for 5 weeks to get the top classes while sim the seasons that’s hella easy with the hard sell cheese to
Did this as well with OC which is think is the better option if you want to make your short term easier too since the DC and HC align skill set wise. A lot of options that only cost 3 points because of it.
That’s a great point, I didn’t really take a deep into the packages.
I didn’t want to have to resort to this but ea caps your head coach abilities way too low. You can only unlock about 20% of the abilities if you do it the normal way. I’m ok with having a more realistic approach and get that every coach can’t be Saban, but dammit I want to make Saban in one of my dynasty’s.
Lol I feel this. There’s so many great abilities and combinations and I hate being capped.
I would do this if I could really control what school I end up going to as HC after the first couple years. Sucks you cant choose all opening to show interest in.
You could always just bounce around until you get to the school you want.
you could force lose all the games of your desired school and they would have the spot opened for you once job offers come in. I did it with USC, and they offered the HC job right away.
@@mikeycrosskings6865I simulated 10 years and never got the school I wanted even though they fired their coach every year
This isn't the first time it was discovered how to maximize a coach. You also get 495 points at level 50, not 490 (5 points which doesn't really equal out to but one extra skill)
My first year as a OC at Liberty I got a 1st round QB and a 3rd round RB. Took a HC job at UAB.
That’s a nice come up!
@@PoodleGaming yeah but this UAB OL is trash apparently. On paper it’s better than what I had at Liberty but it doesn’t show at all on the field.
I’m here for the recruiting tips keep it up Bro
Will do! Thanks for showing early support on the new post!
Tip #1 Always be cruitin’
Can you do a video on getting top 5 in recruiting classes can’t get it
Here is a complete breakdown of dominant coaching traits for Every default coach in the game:
There are 3 CEO head coaches [Georgia, Clemson, and North Carolina (All 3 active head coaches with a National Championship)];
26 Program Builder Head Coaches;
12 Recruiter head coaches and coordinators;
77 Elite Recruiter coaches and coordinators;
17 Motivators;
114 Master Motivators;
21 Tacticians;
107 Scheme Gurus;
11 Strategists;
10 Architects;
and finally 4 Talent Developers (Alabama, Syracuse, Temple, and Toledo)
This is one nice info, where did you get this from.
@PoodleGaming I catalogued the entire default coaching attributes myself. I sent you Twitter message a few days ago (under my real name). I can send you the Google Sheets database I made for the community if you want.
About this video: only Georgia HC comes with the Family Discount CEO ability unlocked from start. It is best spend 100 points at Georgia first, THEN leave so you can use Georgia's Family Discount, then buy your own Family Discount CEO ability when you leave.
Are you Chaz arman on twitter?
Or, if you have a Discord, I can share the Community Copy Sheets link I made there.
I don’t have a community discord but may not be a bad idea.
Next level would be going to San Jose State as DC, their HC has Family and friends discount granting you free motivator and tactician unlock.
Then rolling the season til you get an offer at UGA or UNC.
Wouldn’t recommend it unless you’re allergic to grass.
Lmao, this is very extreme.
Or you can just unlock the ability with Georgia's coach then retire and create your own player as a coordinator
Great vid kid!!!! Keep grinding.
Wouldn’t it make sense that if you wanted better offensive players you would pick defensive coordinator? This way you would be able to copy the offensive coordinators abilities who is more likely to have offensive abilities.
I’ve only done it as OC, so I’m not sure. But this should work.
@@PoodleGaming
I guess my point is that the discount given is -1 credit cost per coach who owns it. So if you’re wanting offensive based perks more, the OC is more likely to have those which you won’t have access to if you replace him.
@@acb9318damn this is smart I’m going to try as a dc for Georgia
Man I’ve been struggling with getting top 5 classes done it’s mad annoying
Can you find coordinators with CEO packages to make your CEO abilities cheaper? Otherwise, if I’ve already spent the 30 points to unlock CEO, I’d want to get dream school ASAP to potentially help my recruiting classes
I used normal xp leveling tho. I little to grind. I left GA after 2 seasons with every archetype unlockable except elite recruiter. (Damn that last class.) I took the Colorado Buffs job. 2 99 speed recievers but not Defense at all. Should be really fun
Your videos are SO much more helpful than everyone else's! Quick question: When upgrading the coach abilities that cost 8 in one category and 5 in another, does the game count the amount you spent or the number of abilities you purchased to determine your active archetype?
I believe they are always active, but probably the amount of abilities. Thanks for the support!
Used your method, could only take the four jobs offered, smaller schools were shaded out and would not let me accept . Had maxed out at level 50 and then lose games to get fired, just to be able to get another job. Does taking the 5 year extention keep you from leaving an OC position? Could not figure how else to leave for another job?
The extension may have locked you, but I’m not quite sure. I haven’t had issues with taking a job offer.
Does this discount only work as a coordinator? Or is this also applied with a head coach?
There is a bit of realism here, since you start as coordinator and then get offered a head coach opportunity, compared to just starting off a random joe blow head coach of a whole school!
I do agree with this. Makes for a cool story line.
Do the "non-user" coaches ever rank up/gain new abilities? I'm trying to get abilities for 3 pts but the other two coaches don't have what I'm looking for.
I think they do, that would make the most sense.
Has anyone ever used a coordinator thats already created that has national pipeline? Curious how thats worked out
So what is the best
Abilities to have
Im OC for Georgia, and the HC never upgraded anything...Was hoping he would buy more abilities, but I dont want automatic coach progession on because I want to control what my coach upgrades..
Yeah, in that case just save the points and go to a new program after buying the bundle for yourself and keep rotating coordinators till you get what you want.
Only thing I say change is you should be a DC not a OC if you want OC skills. The OC buys them and then get discount. If your OC then the other coach focuses DC abilities and you don’t get what you want
I am the u ,utsa and Oregon st and oh my goddess the disparency . 13 players for the u 5 top 30 players 6 top 40 and Oregon st has signed 1 person. Ruff
lol yeah, school choices changes a lot.
I get top 5 classes back to back without the Georgia cheese
How can you improve your coach after level 50?
That’s the cap.
Think this would work to leech off Ohio state?
Anyone else not getting their coin after leveling up? After I levelled up past 30 every other level I do not get my coins for leveling up, plus I had to re unlock my motivator talent, super annoying, that 45 coins I've missed out on.
I just tried to do this and it took me till 2030 to get to level 50. And now the school i want to transfer to isnt offering me a job
It should have only taken like 3/4 seasons if your force won to the national championship
There's a toggle button in coach abilities. You have the option to turn them on/off. When you turn them on, all their abilities map cover each other like a spider web.
Is that all the button is for?
When i leave or move to other coach it goes back to default.. Im nervous my other coaches skill aren't working if it doesn't stay on.
No, it’s just so you can see all your coaches packages at once, gives you a good did of where you are building towards/ how well rounded they are.
@@PoodleGaming thanks
I'm halfway through my second season as offensive coordinator at Georgia. You get more useful skills at the discount on defense, but you'll want them either way as a hc. I easily got the best class in the nation year 1, and the second class looks better as my recruiting skills are better. I did the minimums in tactician and motivator, and already have a good bit of architect unlocked. It's gonna be gg for the NCAA next year lol, or maybe my second season as hc.
lol, yeah this setup is insane. The coaching combinations are insane once you are set up.
Great video thanks!!
Glad I could help. Enjoy!
I stumbled upon a problem yesterday while starting a new season. You can't change the position of your incoming recruit class. All of the ath just get defaulted to their best positions. And likewise you can't change any positions of other incoming freshman or maybe transfers in general. Just an fyi. I was pretty sad.
This is an issue that’s been occurring since the recent patch.
This is only an issue with offline leagues. Idk why, but EA decided to quick patch it for online leagues but not for offline. So if you’re a plus member or whatever if you play on something else, just do online leagues by yourself
@tristencopper8039 just run an online league by yourself, ea fixes the bugs on online dynasties faster the offline
Thank for the information but I'm already 6 seasons into my offline and not looking forward to starting a new one. But it seems like that may have to be the route I go.
You have to go edit player position under the roster tab. I want mass substitute back in game.
If I leave the school do I get to keep my items
I got so bummed out playing the other day i was doing great in recruiting and had great young players on my dline. And three of them left because my pro potiential went from A to D- because none of my players went pro even though i did well with them. Wish they would fix that so the players that are actually good leave early and stats should matter for going pro. Wish there was a coaching ability that helped players go pro early.
I wish it was stat based as well, overall based seems kind of dumb to me.
Should also be noted if you take an OC/DC job after thee HC job the points are refunded from the elite Archetypes
Fr? I didn’t know this.
@@PoodleGaming yup Fendler mentioned in his live stream the other day
@Beaumont99 he said it, but have yet to actually see it...... I lost mine, and then had to rebuy them.... didn't get the refund.... but that was also the first week of the game before any patches
@@jeremysandbothe1419 I didn’t lose mine. It was refunded are you back to being an OC/DC ?
@Beaumont99 I'm on a new dynasty..... I'll be testing it out later though, just haven't gotten to it yet
After forcing wins, do you sim the season or go game-by-game? Do you leave "Auto-Recruitimg" on?
I sim to playoffs, bc you then need to apply force wins for the playoffs. Auto recruiting should be turned on, if you have the time tho recruiting is useful bc you can secure a top 5 class and unlock better stuff for your coach
@@PoodleGaming Got it😎👍🏿
Anyone know how to stop my best players from leaving for the draft after their junior szn?
Coaching packages, persuasion
This is the Harvard of CFB video game.
🌹🌸💐🌺🌷🌻🥀
Imma give u ur flowers while ur still active
Thank you!
question, can you buy the coins on ncaa 25?
Coach coins? No.
Boston College Eagles won their first game of the season, now let's see if they win their next game.
lol, fsu fan?
This video is amazing
I’m glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for showing support in the vid!
So after level 50 you can’t get anymore points to spend either?
Nope, 50 is the max.
Is this why as a custom HC I feel capped and maybe get only 32 more points a year trying to pick other skills to dev? (Wanted to leave after I won two nattys but I didn’t realize my contract other generated to extension
Yeah, otherwise it’s a long grind and you won’t be able to max most things.
Ya when you take you HC job and buy the bundle ability. You can just hire and fire cord base on abilities you want to buy.
That’s the best way to really maximize your coach, may just require a little patience.
That is not how to make the best coach.... that's how you make the second best coah...
Best coach is to start as the hc, I prefer unc as they are lower level, pick the stock coach, run the first season, unlock the perk to unlock cheaper trees under program builder, then unlock the trees you want on your custom coach as well as specific perks you want..... at the end of the season fire the coordinators and hire the ones with the best stuff unlocked you can find.... go into the next season (could even do 2 seasons to max out the hc)..... before you start that season go over to retire, pick create new character, pick any team and stock coach (say texas), then go back to retire and click create new character, this time pick the oc or DC from the original school (whichever was weaker from when you hired them) and create a new coach, now you get motivated and tactician unlocked for free after you pick recruiter as your base, all the free 3 point perks, then win 2 nattys with that team and bounce.....
Now this is next level cheese
@jakebrown2336 I mean if you are going to do it, go all out
@@jeremysandbothe1419 I’m right there with you! Certainly will do this on my next build.
@jakebrown2336 you have to make sure you use all your points on your custom coach before the next coach round table..... the original hc will stay with your changes until then, then he leaves for the nfl or retires or whatever......... it might be better to make your coach before the first season playoffs is done, so as soon as you hire the new coordinators for the next year, then make your coach, you will get points for the playoffs and national championship, plus the credit for a top recruiting class if you have one.......
@@jeremysandbothe1419 that’s what’s up. Thanks!
I am pissed. I have been the OC for Georgia for 4 years with for winning the NC all four years, my dream job at USC opens up for HC but i couldn't get it since the school logo was locked out. How do you hire to become a HC at another college??
The school was locked out?
The more i farm this method the more i believe your Alma Mater and Pipeline play some roll inn the jobs you get offer. It is hard to explain but their definatly seems to be a correlation between job amd your character build bio. I have farmed this method using multiple existing and created coach and trying to create an overpowered staff to power level all the perks I wanted at 3 points each. it is doable but very time consuming.
@@outlawmustangs6969I would agree with that. For example(I'm Georgia DC) my Alma. Is Coastal Carolina and I've had HC offers from Unc, Tennessee, App st and more from similar schools.
Ok your the second person I’ve seen Clemson say is valid but when I tried it the head coach has the ceo category open but he doesn’t own the discount skill so not a good choice
Yeah, idk why but I really thought Clemson had it.
not being able to leave after your first season is so dumb
It would be dumb to leave before then. Could easily take 5+ years to unlock Elite Recruiter and CEO anywhere else.
How do I force win? I don’t see that available
Go to team schedule
Did 5 seasons with Georgia, never got a 2nd top 5 class 🤔
Manually recruit for the top 5 class.
Hard sell is your friend and it's easy at Georgia.
@@dyoung5690I’m guessing to get 2nd too 5 class I need to recruit the ones interested in my school?
Do y'all turn on auto recruiting doing this? Every time I sim they don't get to 5 recruiting class
I tried and it doesn’t work if auto to get a top 5. So it would be best to do it yourself if you can.
If you need the top 5, then you will need to manually do it.
How the hell does UNC have the CEO package? They’ve never come close to winning a title
The coach himself has it, not the program
My coach is level 50… I can’t upgrade anymore no matter how much XP I have
So you telling me that’s the max!? I understand the max level 50 But wow I can’t buy anymore upgrades for my coaches cause my Level is it supposed to do that ?
50 is the max unfortunately
I got a top five class with ucla before
How many 5 stars did you bring in?
already level 46 one more season till level 50. Alabama just tried to hire 😂
How many years?
Damn that’s tough to ignore the Bama offer lol.
@@bori1986 I didn't look 😂 I wanna take a small program and build them up.
@@PoodleGaming Yeah it was very hard.
How do I unlock the 2nd tier in recruiting I can’t seem to get it
Upgrade ur badge
@@brentonhawkinsPBG I have to sign 2 top 5 recruiting classes idek what that means
@@Ybn_Kev25 bro u have motivator scheme guru etc u can upgrade it for 15 points and it give you the 2 tier stuff
No
You need to get a top five recruiting class
is there a way to unlock architect for a team builder team
You can unlock anything just need to hit the requirements.
@@PoodleGaming yeah for arch it’s rival games and idk how you get that with a team builder
I am only speculating here, but if this game is like 14 whatever team you replaced with your Team builder, you adopted their rivalries with the new team.
@@outlawmustangs6969 I remember that, however ken state doesn't have an in game rival and after research I tried both teams that are their "rivals" and it doesn't count
I wish the level would be past 50
How do we unlock elite recruiter ?
Two top 5 recruit classes with your coach.
@@PoodleGaming I can’t do TS to save my life 😂
Does this work in online dynasty
Yes it should but it would take too long since most members call it quits after a few seasons
I think, forcing wins is bugged
It’s had weird moments but it mostly works.
It's not broke,if your team is on top your home the away team is on bottom
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What is this thing you keep doing lol
40%less
Ima level 51 coach .
I'm a lvl 50 in an online dynasty. Is there a way to use this method still? I believe I could retire and be invited back and start over.
Have to start your career with it
Yeah, you would need to start fresh with your coach.
Can you still earn C points if you max at 50 to still upgrade your coach
No
No
@@GoldenBoyJake damn now I gotta restart my coaching career I bought a lot of bs 😭 dominating with James Madison
@@SirBogan_ I did the same thing I feel your pain. Hoping they can change it, at least for offline dynasty
Yeah screw the computer and the devs they made the game this way that we have to cheese it to get the experience we want level 50 coach and not being able to reset our skill tree is stupid as hell!!!
I agree lmao. I wish they at least had a reset skill tree option, that way we could experiment with what we like.
I like it because can coaches in real life hit reset 🤔 IMO it makes you think (a lot of ppl hate that) and strategize. I don’t want an easy button 🤷🏾♂️
@@DJfatboy32bc in theory they continue to develop past 50. if there is a cap, we should be able to reset.
@@SplashDe23 name a coach that is great in every aspect? 🤔 that’s the point of it.
@DJfatboy32 is this real life or a video game? Why play a video game if you want it to be real life go find a real coaching job in real life then
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lol thanksz
Anyone else capped at level 50?
That’s the cap in CFB 25
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lol what?
Sooo basic just go to the best school, force yourself to win every season lol
I started as head coach. I hit level 50 and then i just accrued 100, 000 points after several nattys. But, coordinators never got a point. Had to retire coach and lost my dynasty
Weird. My coordinators leveled up quite a bit during my Texas dynasty. Not as fast as my created HC, but they did level up.
@@thevoxdeus the grade changed alot but never gained a point. I used the coins from HC to upgrade them
@@typrettyboi1 Weird
That’s odd, hasn’t happened to me yet.
My game won't let me level up anymore I've been stuck at lvl 50 and I have over 100k in XP points
Level 50 is the max bro
@@bscoggs ummm what lol
@@Bigbook-zi4tbya he said it a little weird I got you. Level 50 is the max bro.
@@z34567890123456 thanks but I haven't completely got a full trait done & I got 110k lol
Level 50 is the max.
I did this
How did it work out?
First Poodle!
Aye!!! Thanks bro!
No we're not subbing get to the point so we can leave
Pure hater 😂 imagine waking up and choosing to hate
Looks pretty similar to Fendler’s video. Maybe shout him out after stealing his video
You clearly didn’t watch the whole video, where I shout out fendler in the video. Watch fully before commenting.
Why? It's wasn't Fendler's idea.
This was posted to Reddit weeks ago.
I am so sick of ppl crying about other creators making similar content, I dont even know who Fendler is so i would have never learned of this process without THIS video. why are so many ppl obsessed with being a KAREN.
So once your maxed out, you can't get anymore points or coins right.