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I think EA needs to fix coaching hires. You are limited to like 5 candidates. There are so many other coaches you can see that got fired but they aren’t in your candidates.
I also hate that there is only ONE WEEK where you can fire your coaches and it becomes a gamble because you don't know what the candidate pool will even look like. So like, wtf kind of risk are you asking me to take??
& no coach ability reset is kinda crazy too
@ at the least you should you should be able to take purchases off if you bought a level too high
You should be able to “express interest” in a couple of jobs rumor to be opening up. If you are a national champion head coach and you expressed interest in a lower level job that’s coming open, they will hire you if they can afford it. This game coaching higher mechanics are just busted top to bottom
It should allow us to take other hc jobs that open up
3:38 490 coaching points when starting with a generated coach; 495 when starting with a custom coach from scratch (49 level ups + 5 points to start)
EA should have schools offer you skill points as money during "Coaching Search" to make you wanna come to their school. Smallers schools would offer between 50-100 skill points to leave your school. Bigger schools would offer 25-50 skill points to leave your school.
Genius
Genius give this man a job
This would be cool, especially as a way to keep building your coach.
@@PoodleGaming Facts
I like that idea bro
Master Recruiter, Motivator, CEO is the best combo for maxing out activeXP. Tactician is an artificial boost, doesn’t help their draft stock.
Tactician OL and DL all 4 tiers unlocked is cracked
This just shows why we need a higher level cap for our coaches
i was thinking the same
Honestly they should just double it. Once you hit around level 40 it takes a while to level up anyways so its not like we can get op super fast
Even though Ceo is expensive, I think it's better then program builder. Owning ceo you get extra xp for bowl/playoff wins, program building you only get xp if your school grade or prestige increase which depending on the school you might not get anything from it.
Ceo as poodle has said before has bundle discount which make upgrades cheaper if your coordinator owns said upgrade. There is also an upgrade in ceo that players get rid of some of their skill cap prior to their senior season.
CEO is also very clutch because of the dream school perk. I don’t think enough is made of how much this can help dominate recruiting. If you have 10-12 guys with you as the first options you can easily get 2-4 to insta commit in the preseason. Then through out the year the guys who have you second or third. Do not offer them a scholarship right away try to become their number one then offer scholarship and they may commit instantly which helps build the class and lets you reallocate recruiting points
@@Jake.E75 if you are basing them off their boost then you are doing it all wrong. Why would i care about the amount of xp i get when by the time you are buying ceo or program builder you are at level 40-50 anyways. If you wanna level your coach fast and thats what you care about go into motivator and make that stay your active and then you will get hella xp when players level like 3-4 levels in the first couple years during offseason training
@@cptswagger513 That only helps if you plan on playing dynasties as teams like lsu or bama doesn't help if you wanna build a program
How much cheaper do the abilities become when you have bundle discount? Do the abilities go from costing 5 points to 3 points? How much cheaper do they actually get?
@@dominicksottile1768 the ones that cost 5 go to 4 if one coach has it and 3 if both have it and the ones that cost 8 go to 7 and then 6.
two things that would make the recruiting/dynasty better is 1) the coach goes to 99 overall like the players 2) the redshirt option is at the beginning of the season like the encourage transfer
The redshirt option is available pre week 1
@ I know but you end up cutting decent players because you can’t redshirt freshman that aren’t going to play when you trying to get to 85 players
A big thing to remember is that your personal goal with the dynasty will effect how you build your coach. If you're in an online PVP dynasty, it's going to make recruiter more important. If you want your dynasty to last a long time and have a solid story, I recommend starting as a motivator or tactician and building your program to the point where recruits want to join you. I don't jump in the games myself often, I'll slow super sim to watch it play out and let ratings take priority. Yes you can turbo boost a team like Sam Houston or Kennesaw State within 5 years, that doesn't necessarily mean that it will leave you feeling satisfied with your dynasty once you're dominating.
Hey quick question how do u go about the play books im trying to slow sim Penn state to greatness
@@aidenrutt8896 I start based on my college and I switch it based on my OC/DC changes. With the DC, it's easy, just change to his scheme. With the OC, I found and corrected a google doc that had every school listed based on scheme, and I'll use a RNG to determine which playbook within a scheme that I use. That way, I can keep some core familiarity if I get lucky with OC schemes, but my coordinators matter for more than just their abilities.
Also I run 9 min/25 acc clock for fully slow simmed games. This is to align with the game's sim engine and get relatively close in play count, with some abnormal games going over/under. I used to run 10/25 but something happened with a recent update and I kept going over my target of 108-122 plays. The play count is based purely on run/pass attempts per team, so a heavy running game will go under and a game with a team that runs no huddle/accelerated offense will go over.
@@aidenrutt8896Well that will never happen so….
This is my coaching tier right now with 36 points to spend.
Recruiter - all tier 4 (except kicker) and all tier 1 in elite recruiter
Motivator - all tier 3 (except kicker)
Tactician - all tier 4
Program Builder - tier 1 roster retention, tier 2 in relationship builder & strong roots
CEO - tier 1 delay sunday, tier 1 dream school, tier 1 bundle discount (just because my elite recruiters were maxed out earlier and i needed to find new ones later).
what do you mean by my elite recruiters were maxed out earlier and i needed to find new ones later ? did you get different coordinators just wondering cause i haven't played DM yet
@dmx1721 i had 2 elite recruiters but the tier ones in elite recruiters some of the options weren't unlocked (IE: QB). The recruiter was already maxed out so I would've had to spend 7 points. I found another elite recruiter that had it unlocked so I only had to spend 6 points for it.
Bro y'all still sleeping on architect I guarantee it. More xp every 3 games winning streak is op I got a lot of guys maxed out sophomore year. And tactician gives more xp for every win you stack that with OC and DC your killing it
Sadly I suck too bad online to get 3 game winning streaks haha
@@CKGolf77inside zone , short passes cover 3 match / cover 3 blitz & you should win 2/3rd with that game plan
Architech never procs
Agreed, I took Hawaii and consistently turn out 92-95 rated teams after 2 seasons with Architect and landing 95% 3 stars (I have zero recruiting points for my caching abilities)..Architect ensure player stars don’t matter and can still get 99 rated players with 3 star players. My squad churning out 3-6 first round picks every year. Architect is where it’s at
if you want xp then motivator is the goal you get like 3-4 levels in one week of offseason training
a small tip I found is that if you save your points to get CEO and buy the discount perk you can hire staff that have the tree's you don't have and get those points back to get instant commit or other perks. this does take a while, and you can't spend to many points early.
@treydullnig It does work, but not always, especially for advanced trees.
It takes 48 points to gain CEO and the skill, and requires 100 points spent before that, meaning you are around 200-250 points in the hole before you start benefitting, and after a few years, finding coaches with advanced tree bonuses becomes closer and closer to impossible.
If you are doing it for base trees, it is worth it, but not as extensively as it seems, and if most of your build is in advanced trees, it becomes far more likely not worthwhile.
Friends & Family Discount and Bundle Discount are worth it, but usually only when benefiting from another coach having it to start your career (Georgia, North Carolina, Ole Miss, San Jose State).
@@CAPAE Let's not forget in an online dynasty, one team may be winning every year and you will never get it and sitting on points hoping.
I’ve been going tactician, motivator, architect and program builder. Just too easy to recruit with the recruiter tree. I think just boosting the pipelines and using whatever recruiting your coordinators have gives me a decent enough challenge without cheesing the game
Exactly my build, when I started easily bringing in 10+ 5 stars I had to make a change.
In the online dynasty that im in, i would highly recommend not doing this. We have 32 players, 5 of which tried the tactician route first. They were all fired by season 2. They couldn't bring in recruits to hold the program.
@@dukelynch6973yeah, Im in an online dynasty and recruiter is a must. I only go
tier 3 them focus on tier 3 motivator.
Now, I’m trying to figure my next move. Im thinking tactician, at least until I can unlock Architect.
Start as recruiter. Unlock all but specialist. Don’t go elite. Then spend 25 in motivator and tactician. U lock architect and unlock all those. Then unlock ceo and get instacommit. That’ll leave you with no wasted points
@@Bojang1es naw go T3 in recruiter and motivator then T3 in master motivator(clearly ignoring speciallist in all these) then program builder and all the pipeline boosts then it doesn't matter where you go you will still have a wealth of options to pick from in recruiting
Is instacommit worth it? Like I get 3 commits during preseason how many do you average?
@gescocamille1715 its worth it if you wanna play at programs like bama and georgia
One complaint I have with the 35 prospects is that you can actually pull your score down by bringing in lower players. More isn’t always better. There’s a balance between quantity and quality.
If you buildup your pipelines you will start the season way ahead of other teams on player interest
Pretty solid all-around build overall.
One thing I'd do, personally, is probably ignore that second tier of Elite Recruiter with the school grades and put some hours into Scheme Guru to get at least the first two tiers of Passing Game Offense and Ground & Pound Offense. The latter, especially, as tiring out defenders is great for later in games.
One thing I would like in the dynasty is more in season management with your roster. Like If you got a recruit based on a hard sell and you don’t live up to it, you run the risk of losing players in season.
For example. I promised a freshman playing time. If by a qtr into the season he hasn’t played, he can threaten to sit out, redshirt the rest of the season and enter the transfer portal. Maybe you can spend recruiting points to keep him happy. Or you can chose to start him and morale hit with your other players in the position group.
I agree, I would love more dynamic in season scenarios. Kinda like madden scenarios.
Program builder / ceo is elite if your playing over 50% of games per year. In my offline leagues it’s more of a sim so I don’t worry about program builder just ceo. But man that combo with all the composure buffs/protection. Basically can turn stadium strength off when on road, and offense comes out humming against rivals and top rank teams. Honestly kind of unfair from conf championship- national
I use a kinda interesting strategy. The run game is already broken and RBs are so common I only get the scouting for RB and that’s it. You’ll still get 1-2 a year and I just gem hunt. Doing my method saves u 31 points based on doing his method. I would recommend so you can get some more boosts for less common positions (QB, OL, DL) not that they’re uncommon just really good ones are
Good point….. I just love being a recruiting monster lol. It really depends on your league too, that’s why I said feel free to slightly teak based on your league and/or user preferences.
Yo thanks dude ive had cfb since its release but ive just started to get into it so this helps
I am currently in year 7 of playing every game of an online league and ill tell you now, you don't need a lot on recruiter at all. You could go without it if you wanted and knew how to recruit. I started with Georgia Southern and we've had the top 5 recruiting class the last 3 years. With that being said I will encourage you to get Relationship Builder maxed at least, and Strong Roots if want an extra boost but you can definitely do without the recruiting tree as a whole and use points elsewhere!
Ehh, I don’t like being at the mercy of taking whatever leftover recruits there are
I’ve done pretty well without using the elite recruiting tiers. I usually try to throw that into or talent developer.
I typically cap out on QB, OL, and DL! To me, they're the most important players.
The only time tier 4 recruiter really matters is if you get the Dream School package in the CEO tree so that more recruits tart with you as their top school.
Yup, exactly. I like this combination!
@@PoodleGaming I’ve seen a lot of builds that focus on getting the same packages you did, but they go after tier 3 master motivator for at least QB, WR/TE, OL, DL, and DB and basically ignore tactician altogether. If you’re consistently able to recruit 5-stars with high skill caps, do you feel like it’s better to focus on player XP so that they can get better abilities and reach their max potential overall? Or do you still feel like it’s better to just guarantee that every player gets X boost?
Poodle, you should include a portion of the video where you show the actual coaching tree in a dynasty.
The only problem with this build is if you want to move up the job ladder. For the most part you need Program Builder or CEO to get job offers from high prestige schools. Elite recruiter will only get you offers from Nebraska and Ole Miss while Program Builder will get you to the Penn State, Texas, Oklahoma, Notre Dame and CEO you’ll start getting Georgia, Bama, OSU, Oregon.
For offline dynasty the Elite Recruiter is too overpowered, you can basically pick any player and 90% they will sign with you. That takes the fun out of recruiting IMHO.
True it’s super easy
Architect is one of the best at tier 2
Can you do another version of this with starting at uga as a coordinator? Just to see the true max potential of the best build in the game? Great vid!
Don’t know if it’s already been covered or not but a coaching build with the perk to get discounts for you rcoordinators perks give you a discount if they already own seems like something to be explored a bit more
I never do the 4th RB one which is short route and catch. RB always open anyways and never once seen them drop the ball. QB I can live without.
you are massively discounting pipelines. Ive seen people make up massive differences with less points all because of pipeline.
It is not so much about overlooking them, it is just expensive. I agree it is strong, but Motivator T3 is too strong to ignore, so the only place left to take from is Tactician. That is very much a viable option, but it just depends on your values.
@@CAPAEI just don't bother with tactician, it's all about recruiting and motivation level three on both base.
@@xxthekingfish I tend to agree, but you will still need a few in Tactician to get Architect.
Yeah Program Builder with Invest in pipelines is OP and worth leaving of Elite Recruiter imo.. and I give up Master Motivator to ones I'm Program Builder/CEO to keep talent. I get the bare minimum in there but it is OP. I can talk 1st rounders into staying and before I had it I would have my whole starting lineup getting drafted and leaving for draft as RS So or JRs
@@dustineverhart4028 you get it. Once you're established keeping players is the most important thing.
That talent developer is pretty much motivator times 2, love that one
Yes, but it’s expensive
@ that’s why I do talent developer first, since my OC/DC won’t have it, then I’ll put points wherever
I had no idea ppl actually do online leagues and don’t make everyone start with a brand new coach build lol
Depends on the leagues, it’s very common though.
@ learned something new … I just assumed everyone started with new coaches on low tier teams since it’s about building a dynasty and let everyone start from scratch to even the playing field
You need to spend the extra 5 on starting interest. Trust me, it helps big time
Pipeline is the major factor 🤷🏿♂️ Ohio got that 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Idk, I’m still iffy on pipeline
Very helpful tip with bringing in 2 top 5 recruiting classes lol. I'm at #5 in season 2 with getting a top 5 class in season 1 and there is nothing left but 3 stars with 3 weeks in the season left and I have 23 scholarships agreed upon 🤔. Definitely getting home after work and going nuts with 3 ⭐️ to secure a top 5 this season lol.
Maybe not so much, 3 stars could actually lower your rating a bit as it is based on averages. It would behoove you to bring in a lot of 4-star transfers instead to fill out the roster.
Recruiter, Tactician, Motivator is all I use
"Friends and Family Discount: Cheaper archetypes if owned by another coach." Does this mean if my coaches own any ability its half off for me?
When I recruit in my dynasty those pipelines don’t mean shit. My school is Michigan and I have kids from Cali, Florida, Hawaii, all over the United States and I recruit 5 stars. I’m on my 12th season and on my current recruiting cycle I’ve recruited 15 5 stars
Variant Idea: If someone wants to pick something other than Tactician, this would be a great direction for CEO Senior Superlatives.
Tactician helps each of your players with ratings. Tactician is also primarily good for helping players that have capped out pushing their numbers past their caps. Another way to just improve players is to push those caps back entirely. A good chunk of players that will start year-over-year will be Seniors, thus arbitrarily increasing numbers by 1 point each (or more depending on coordinators), or giving them more room to increase their important ratings by approximately 5 points each is a good way to improve your more impactful players, and even possibly pushing those on the brink of draftability into being drafted, thus activating your Motivator packages to help your younger players.
This is definitely a force multiplier
Question/Possible idea for a video: I have two prospects with almost identical attributes at the same position. One is a four star gem, the other is a five star with no gem. Which one should I go after? I feel like the gem guy might have more upside, but a five star is still a five star.
Do not do 35 players a class. This is not needed. Can get a top 5 with a good recruiting calls of 20-25 players.
I took off tier 2 in elite recruiter and put it in program builder to max relationship builder and strong roots
Also took off tier 2 and 3 for HB and DB
That last one is from motivator
Miami hurricanes
For me, CEO -dream school is the least consistent out of all of builds for the money that is spent
Year 3 I had 15 recruit that were number one while only five instant committed
Year 4 I had 21 recruits that were number one and only two in instant committed
Year 5 I had 15 recruits that were number one and six of them instant committed
Year 6 I had 21 recruits that were number one and only two instant committed
It’s definitely not worth the points
That’s basically where I stand on it. It’s a fun perk, but it’s expensive and you can’t rely on it.
I basically abandoned tactician other then my QB and Oline section. I put the points I don’t use there into architect I build motivator and recruiting pretty much exact other then I don’t put anything into RBs since any thing over a 75 can be serviceable
This is the build I use and my teams are always rated between 92-95 overall.
I can't help but see any spending in recruiter as anything but a complete waste. It has the lowest profit and it's just not worth it other than being a requirement to unlock other skill trees. All three (recruiter, motivator, and taction) really do the same thing in three different ways: make it easier to win games. Recruiter does it by helping you build the roster, motivator by developing the roster, and tactician by in-game boosts to the roster. The biggest problem here is that recruiter will become more useless the longer you play while the others will always have value. You don't need any boosts to sign good classes. The single biggest factor in making recruiting good players easier is winning games (tactician with the immediate help says hi), as this will affect your school and coach ratings/prestige, which both unlocks more deal-breaker recruits, increases interest, and makes it easier to do hard sells. Each year, you are going to find it easier to recruit and better and better interested propects as you win and comptete for championships. Boosts you had from recruiter, which you didn't really need in the first place, will eventually become null. And those recruits will always be the same average overall ratings for their star class even after all those boosts to land them. Now motivator on the other hand, you'll see recruits getting 10-20 point overall jumps in the off-season, especially those with higher dev traits. That 73 rating DT freshman I redshirted is now a 91 and rated ahead of my star veteran you say? I'll take that. I have WRs, DBs, and RBs getting 10 point speed and acceleration bumps ( like low 90s to 99/99) at like a 33% chance (these ratings should barely ever move if the game was made correctly).
In a nutshell, the thing that gives the biggest bump to recruiting is winning games. Motivator and tactician make it far more easy to win games than recruiter. The elite recruiter perks are worthwhile, but you have to waste a bunch of points on recruiter to unlock it, and, by that time, your winning seasons should have steered in the direction of easier recruiting.
As long as I can get the best looking QB,WR,And ,HB I’m cool. I figured out how to get 3 and 4 stars defensive players with good upgrade dev trait
IF I WATCH ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR VIDEOS GIVING AWAY EXACTLY WHAT I'M DOING TO THE MASSES I'M GOING TO HAVE A HEART ATTACK
Lmao, I’m sorry
I feel like ea should start us with 100 points and/or increase the level to 100. On normal i ranked up to 50 in 4 seasons. On high its 2 seasons.
I stopped playing rtg because getting sp is impossible
I want that cross trainer. I want someone to win high on both sides of the ball.
We are so back
Did this help?
Real one bro did my vid idea✊🏾
Hey. I got two 5 stars and 17 four stars year one as Arizona State, and to end the year i filled it up with 3 Stars and i only got the 12th class. With a non powerhouse i think it's impossible to get a top 5 class...
Elite Recruiter 'Upsell' seems great if you are playing with a team like LSU, which you keep showing in your videos. What about if you are using a small low ranked team? Often times they have low grades, does this really help that situation? Some you can get up with success but some are limited based on static grades or being in a weaker conference that you don't want to just leave.
Perhaps I am misunderstanding but I feel like 'Upsell' only benefits power schools that have top grades.
I believe he alluded to this in another video, but if you are starting at a smaller school, Motivator packages matter more, because maximizing your talent with worse dev traits make more of a difference, but if/once you get to stronger schools where Everyone is recruiting better players with better Dev Traits, then Recruiter matters more so you can get more of the higher quality players in quantity.
Ok I'm back here after adding points up. What if my coordinator already has elite recruiter . Should I focus on motivator instead ?
Nope, you want elite recruiter on your HC. These bonuses stack.
Find oc's and dc's that already have elite recruiter.... then you'll never need it
Thanks!
No problem! Glad you like it.
If ur doing a. Dynasty where u limit urself to 5 four stars per year then what would u recommend?
Since 495 is the points cap and this cost 497, what one upgrade would you leave out to get under the points cap?
One of the tactician boosts
Would Strategist, Architect, or talent dev be worth it?
CEO is actually the most important thing to unlock to get your team to 99 OVR. You can’t without it. Once you unlock Delay Sunday & Second Chance Keeper you will be able to keep most of your players until they are seniors..even the very good players! I have a team at U of A now we are 99 OVR 99DEF 99OFF!! I lose around 15 players each season that’s the real key to building the best coach possible on NCAA 25
100%!! Once you get up there to be able to compete the most important thing is keeping talent
Unrealistic. Dudes be at major programs keeping all Americans all 4 years smh
You don’t like cross training WR & DB
where do people find online leagues to play in?
Reddit, Twitter, etc
Is this for just playing against the computer and simulating? I can’t figure out a consistent build, I end up building up a 95 overall team and will lost to lesser overall teams when simulating
This build is for online play, but also works for offline. 90% of my videos are aimed at online play, which will also work for offline.
Does this stack if I hire coordinators with elite recruiting?
No Architect?
Any tips for someone who just gets on the game and plays the game and lets the computer recruit for them?
How can I make the computer recruit better for me so I don’t have to?
They don’t do good at recruiting at all
I don’t get why I have points into recruiter and elite recruiter but my active perk is tactician 😐
What's the Dynasty information again I wanna hop on the league
Is it smart to do a new coach just join before playoff in year 4 I’m Georgia
Yes, I think redoing a coach is always smart
How would you modify this build to also get tier 1 talent developer for each position except K/P?
I’d have to take a deeper looker
@PoodleGaming ive found the starting interest matters way more in xfer portal than reg season recruiting. Especially in online leagues.
@PoodleGaming
Just did a test build doing this. I took from tactician as you had mentioned. So in tactician I took tiers 1-4 for QBs and DBs, tiers 1-2 for O-Line/D-Line. That left me with 7 points so I took tier for for QB in motivator.
Curious your thoughts?
What about architect has anyone tried breaking the skill caps ?
Why the guy on the thumbnail look like me
Is there a way to reset coaching abilities?
Nope, sadly
Poodle my guy!!
What’s up!
So you changed it up from the other video?
The game has evolved
Bingo. Game changes, new things are found to be effectivez
Boise State owns you
How about show yourself spending the points…
What happeneds to players when you cut them off your team, I had a pretty good junior TE I cut off my team after winning a national championship and went to look in roster spots to see if he was playing for somebody else and there was trace of him
I think unless they transfer on their own then they just disappear from the game because I can find players that leave but I have never found my players that I cut
I have found players that I cut but not all. Totally random and dumb imo. I cut a 94 ovr rb that disappeared. I've cut sophomore qbs and some pop up. I've even cut a wr that went to army and picked him up again in portal
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Fam are you in a race?? Why do you talk in 1.5x in every cot damn video. Slow it down.
I’m from New York
@@PoodleGamingI’m from DC so I get being from the east coast but breh… lol
@GeechiLuciano lol, even if i try to slowdown, I very quickly regain speed. It’s a lost cause