The LEAST Evil Sith Lords to Exist In Star Wars
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Darth Marr had *every* right to be first on this list. He valued not only survival, strength, and his enemies enough to extend cooperation against Zakuul, he valued his beliefs in such an unshakable way, that I would argue in a certain way, he held to these beliefs and his strength in a similar manner a Jedi would their serenity, and centered focus.
Other Sith: I want to conquer and destroy the universe! Hahahahahaha!
Darth Vectivus: I died in my bed and loved. Apprentice slay me.
Apprentice: i will never forget you, as I do not hate but I despise you for gaining what all want but few achieve!
Sith don’t want to destroy the universe dude
@@hydra8845tell that to Vitiate
Darth Vectivus - I choose FREEDOM. Not being a slave of my emotions and dark side. DARK SIDE is just a tool. Nothing more... Anyway i go play monopoly.
I think Darth Marr has the most badass looking combat armor next to Malgus and Vader
Dude died and spent years argueing with jedi ghost about the force 😂 badass in life scholar in death
Revan has the most badass looking gear imo, Marr is up there tho
Yeah maybe if you're an edgy 12 year old
@@skorpion3993 is reven outfit good or do you just a jedi with a mando helmet? I liked vitiate outfit and old repbuloc jedi masters better
Don't forget Darth bane
Darth Vectivus and Darth Marr are my two favourite least evil Sith.
Ahh Swtor, ironic it has now become a shadow of its former self.
Thanks Lucasarts.
Ah, Stupendous! What a terrific listing of “goodish” Sith! I’m a big fan of Marr and Vectivus myself. Marr is more of a DBag than an evil dude, and Vectivus just wanted to study and be left alone. Good list!
The Sith Master who took on Vectivus must have been lazy as hell and didn't want to do any more looking.
he just set up a profile on Sabr and called it a day.
"This is just Madness, which is exactly what happened with Gravid."
Sounds a lot like what happened to Abeloth too... Did any of the Rule of Two sith ever have any awareness of or encounters with her?
I absolutely love playing a light side Sith on SWTOR; the dialogue and reactions are priceless.
Other sith: try to become immortal.
Darth marr:( taking off protective armor besides mask) looks like someone selected the easy difficulty
Lord Ur wasn't just executed. He was erased. The Sith of his era viewed his ideas not only as blasphemous, but dangerous. I remember the NPC who sent you to seal the tombs (why did welding the hinges shut stop a Spectre?) Saying something about stopping his ideals from spreading.
Perhaps they were scared more Sith would see the Light.
Brief though it was, I thought at the time he was proof that Light-side Sith COULD exist.
Wow! This has more views than the Acolyte.
Need some ancient Jedi content
Just thought I haven´t seen a Vectivus video in a while yesterday.
This is very nice list. I like Darth Marr. Smart,good Sith. I know how it sounds😊Darth Vectivus is very nice person too. Very good man. Go in peace Stupendous,may the Force be with you,thanks for the holocron and have a great day😀
I asked and now received. Thanks!!
It's a short list, so possibly not ranking high enough, but Darth Bane's origin begins with his embrace of an already "dog eat dog" world. New here, will check for mentions of Bane. Hope I find one!
This is so cool.
Vectivus, Marr and Ur are really interesting.
Well this just proves that there’s simply the force how it’s use is determined by the wielder
What do you say is the best lightsaber form? And if you were to make a perfect lightsaber, what crystal, design, and material would make the lightsaber?
Form 5 Djem So
Thanks for replying, but I want to hear the answer from TheStupendousWave.
@@Starline9212then you would only get a subjective answer that, while it might sound intriguing for the reasons he may give, keep in mind that it is his preference not exactly an objective answer.
You _could_ ask every Star Wars TH-camr (from Stupendous Wave and Generation Tech to Papito Quinn and 100% Star Wars) and you would get various answers
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@@tweso1499 I know that, but there is reason behind the answers, so I want a good answer with a good reason.
Darth Marr was amazing, I just wish that SWTOR was being managed by competent people 😩
Interesting choices! Would it be possible to add Darth Nox to the list? And if not necessarily Nox, one of their parallel selves like Imperious and Occulus? I know they still did some “questionable” things too, but even so, I’d think it was more out of necessity to escape destiny as a slave than anything. But that’s just my biased opinion. Would love to know yours though!
The story of Vectivus is very cool, but I always feel like the internal logic of it never really leaves me feeling fully satisfied. We hear time and time again that the dark side is a corrupting force, and that trying to use it for even benign or positive purposes ultimately leads to your downfall, especially if you become powerful in the dark side which Vectivus obviously was. I guess I just don't completely buy the reasoning that he was able to avoid full-on dark side corruption because he had a strong code of ethics and a strong support network. For me, those aren't enough to stave off dark-side corruption. Like, Luke had plenty of support and a clear, righteous purpose when he sided with Palpatine in legends, and even he could not prevent his fall to the dark side.
Lana beniko is the most approachable
Yes
I've long thought Dark Side is more about selfishness, not evil. Killing and evil are just more expedient route to many selfish goals and selfish Force user would not care who he hurt while getting what they want.
But if those goals don't include ruling status and that kind of things, to me selfish would still rather want community around them to have positive(or at least neutral) stand towards them. One can do good things for selfish reasons.
But that won't make epic stories so it's obvious why Dark Side characters need to be predominantly evil and wanting to rule the Galaxy. I do think Disney should blend the lines - make a Star Wars story with Sith character that isn't evil. Probably not on protagonist's side but rather on the sidelines, creating plot twist when protagonists need to get over their bigotry.
You forgot Lana beniko again
Wasn't he a bit gay
These are reuploads 😂
Interesting
Sith are like onions
care to elaborate or do i just meditate on this
@@Evren_ they’ve got layers - dark emperor shrek
I can't believe that Darth sidous wasn't on this list
He must have just missed the cut. Lol.
It is a shame that we will never get the full lineage of the legends Banite Sith. Vectivus was an interesting dark lord, but as you said, there is no such thing as an entirely good Sith. Even if he didn't commit any atrocities himself, his wealth and connections would have been passed on to his apprentice, at least those that formerly belonged to the Sith Order. Can a man be called good if his knowledge is used to commit evil acts later. If the accounts he set up and contacts he forged are used to cause suffering? More importantly, as a Sith, he would know that they would be used for that, so...could he truly be called good? Sidious looked at good and evil as simply a point of view, perhaps Vectivus shared that belief.
Darth Marr
Where’s Darth Irin-Noonien Singh? Or Darth Eurse
Kaleth Ur was literally a Jedi an Sith clothing... Honestly can anyone "Evil" or "Dark" be considered that anymore when they start acting an speaking like he did??
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Didn't you already do this video a few months ago?
I think real problem of the Sith are reason why they are evil is the Darkside and really their code itself if the Sith fallowed the light side but still fallow same code won’t be enemies of the Jedi maybe not friends. Light side of Sith inquisitor and warrior of SWTOR are evidence this point even if they are not Legends Canon
It is hard to say what would happen if the Infinite Empire never found the original Sith race but it might be possible they might be come a more aggressively neutral in the Force by the time of the originals. Though is one of my best positive theories so it is possible but probably not likely
I recall in a support convo with Ashara and the Sith Inquisitor, he explains to her how the Sith Code is expressed in the Empire and she compares it (either she compares it or the SI does, I forget) to being more a set of guidelines than an actual Code or tenet.
Do you ever done Warhammer 40k
Nah
Sith Lords are sexy.
Hmmm
Peace is a lie.
Day 536 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
today's gonna be the day he sees this lil bro! don't give up!
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The Sith did nothing wrong.
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Disney star wars is is poorly written inconsistent and with alot of continuity problems
Yes yes yes. Unfortunately EU had it’s share of flaws. But you’re right.
@jarjarbelliii5054 the EU was far more consistent and didn't caused alot of continuity problems like Disney star wars
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 That’s true.
They hired people who don't know about star wars to write and film movies so yeah it was horrible.
I think if there's one thing that has become clear, and is usually the case, the books are superior to all the films Lucasfilm or Disney. Books are usually allowed to delve deeper into character and plot. Look at any IP that has books and film and the books are 97% of the time better than the film.
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Well so the number one spot is someone that is by his teachings no longer a sith.. I think that you have to acknowledge that nothing good can come from pure selfishness which is the code of the sith.. so lets face it. While sith look cool they are shallow and after all slaves of their corrupted ideas
And Jedi aren't shallow?
To not be on the list your sure showing a lot of count dooku
the sith doctrine and mantra are not the problem with the sith dude. its the culture. the sith code has literally nothing evil or bad about it. its a code of self empowerment and freedom. you have a very black and white view of things with the star wars universe and everything in both canon and legends say that you are wrong. things are not black and white. the jedi are not all heroes, and the sith are not all villains. quit being a boomer.
I too agree that Sith culture is their main problem (I think about Thrawn's trials in the Empire firstly, and the decline of quality in its troops compared to the clones as evidence for the culture is the problem). I'd like some help though, what does the Sith code say, and who said it?
@@ggpt9641 the sith code is: peace is a lie, there is only passion. through passion i gain strength, through strength i gain power, through power i gain victory, through victory my chains are broken, the force shall free me. and it was first stated in the original knights of the old republic video game, but has since been put into a lot of other media. its a mirror of the jedi code. and the jedi code is the evil one imo. it denies everything thats important to being a sentient being and says that the ideal is if you are an emotionless robot. droids have more emotion than ki adi mundi for example. jedi are not heroes. they are liars and are every bit as manipulative as the sith. and are guilty of genocide and corrupting cultures just like the sith are. the mandalorians for example. the new mandalorians wouldnt have ever existed if not for jedi interference. and the mandalorians never would have gone through the mandalorian purge as a result.
@@KagaiYami Thanks for getting back with me. While I find myself disagreeing with the first line of the Sith code (though it'd have to be clear what the code means by peace, and if duration matters) the rest of the Sith code follows truly. Through passion all the way to being freed by the Force follows logically.
@@ggpt9641 no problem dude. ive always looked at the very first line as being somewhat metaphorical. but yeah that one line isnt great. there are a few different schools of thought on that line, but the one i ultimately land on is that peace is a lie because peace is a trap. it leads to stagnation. on a societal level and on a personal level. if you are at peace on a personal level. then you are satisfied with where you are at. you are no longer moving forward and trying to better yourself. you grow stagnant. and then as far as on a societal level goes. no one will ever want to admit it but war brings with it technological advancement. it does so nearly every time too. not to mention war has inspired great works of art, great pieces of music, and great books. then you look at nature. a peaceful place, is a stagnant place. a place filled with death and decay. while any vibrant and healthy ecological environment is in near constant conflict. peace is nice for short periods of time. it even has its proper place in the grand scheme of things. but long term peace. lasting peace. weather it be personal, natural, or societal. just ultimately leads to stagnation and death. but thats ultimately just my take on the whole thing and i think it fits with the general outlook that most ancient sith had outside of the toxic culture of backstabbing and paranoia and betrayal.
@@KagaiYami My last post to you. We wrestled a bit (that conflict breeding growth), and if a person can "win people over" then you've done it for me. Some peace and rest is required to let the fruits of conflict settle in, it'd seem to me that "always war, always peace" isn't quite the way to navigate life, shown by the shortcomings of both Sith and Jedi.
So I see you still reupload videos and act like you don’t recycle content
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Legends Bane never struck me as black and white evil. The beatings he took from his father really make you want to justify his actions. His pragmatism and foresight would have made him a tremendous Jedi had he been discovered from birth. Possibly grandmaster material. My personal favorite Sith Lord.