Poor Alicia, she was definitely feeling the pressure there... I mean, she did so well up until they arrived in Beijing.. Had she performed like she did during the rest of the year she definitely would have been a great asset to team USA..
Wait a minute she still is a great asset to the team no matter what happened. She is an amazing athlete and will always be one. That’s the problem there’s so much pressure put on this athletes. They can do perfectly well because they’ve done perfectly well previously but at the Olympics anything can happen you can be the worst in that moment and not having that support is about the worst thing ever.
@@gymnasmic7425 well I think it's still in the current code, and now we also have the front tumbling requirement😂. The code is getting more and more weird
right, but barring a truly epic disaster, the us would've made it into the top 8. i don't know, i just felt like the commentators were trying too hard to make everything more dramatic than it actually was :\
Okay the total deductions would be 1.3, but that's too harsh, so I'll take away the deepish landing deduction from the firts pass which I was iffy on, and the .1 hop back on layout, and .1 leg form on 2.5 for 1.1 deductions, bringing her to 14.9 approximately, plus .500 penalty for 14.400 close to what she got. But im no expert.
i don't understand why the commentators are so worried about having all four scores count; this is just qualifying, and all that really matters are the scores the three who compete on each apparatus in the TF get.
You'll have to be harsher than that. I know there are some deductions on the leaps/jumps too but im not sure what to take. OK: .3 stumble on spin .1 posture/deepish landing 1st pass .1 hop back on arabian .1 leg form on 2.5/off-direction as a result .5 tucking the layout .1 hop back uncontrolled layout .1 posture/deep ish landing on pike I got 5.9 SV, devalued the turn and the first split jump, meant to be 1.5 but got 1.25ish around,
ConcreteAngelx3 a half a point at the Olympics is a big deal. If she didn’t have that half a point deducted, she could have possibly made it into the floor final.
@ConcreteAngelx3 The difficulty is not out of a 10.0. The person who gave that info below isn't correct. The difficulty goes on, as hard as your routine is. The execution is out of ten. So, if you see a 15 on floor (which is rare in the new code), an example is that a gymnast had an 8.7 in execution, and a 6.3 in difficulty. Give or take some tenths.
@DuhustBus000 I do agree that I should have devalued the spin but not the first split jump. You also have to take into account the difficulty of the jumps, spins, tumbles, etc. I do agree that 14.900 seemed too high, but they were all the deductions I found.
Where is it that fat, I'm not seeing? She is very hot, most americamos think hot woman has to be lean and skinny legs well, she's the perfect body and super beautiful! While the presentation it seemed that this day she was very confused missed the presentation, plus who is not never been wrong? She is an excellent gymnast, Alicia strength!
She doomed US since the preliminaries. Memmel was injured. Damn badluck for the US. I mean if Memmel wasnt injured she should be doing the balance beam, uv and fx. Alicia only on vault. Alicia did error after error at fx and beam. Since the preliminaries going to finals. This could have change. Memmel was a former world medalist on uv, bb and aa. Alicia vault only and only won fx medal after olympics.
She had a rough go at the Olympics- not the first person to do so. Saying all this about her reveals how little respect you have for elite athletes in general. I truly hope you never make a single mistake at a critical moment ever in your life, because that will just prove you a hypocrite.
@iheartgymnastics555 ohh ok.. so does that mean 20.0 would be a perfect score?? ..I see a lot of 15's .. whats the average difficulty for gymnasts like alicia, shawn and nastia?
Considering Bela and Marta knowingly allowed gymnasts to be sexually assaulted by Larry Nasser, I’d say their opinion was pretty much a farce. She had a tough Olympics but that should never be a reason to be blackballed. I’m just glad she was able to have success after, including her vault gold in 2010. She should definitely feel proud of her achievements.
She choked this entire games. Some have said she was having ankle injuries but who can feel the pain when you're competing at an Olympics? Surprised she was let back onto the national team. Totally could have used her for 2012 but Martha was right to keep her off. She cost the team a gold medal. Russia has sent Pavlova packing and was smart to do so.
There was no reason to send her packing after 2008. Alicia was a HUGE asset to team USA from 2005 onward. Don't forget she is the 2010 world champ on vault and should have won a medal on beam in Rotterdam as well. I would love to see you compete on floor with an ankle injury. It messes with your head when you're injured. She just kinda lost her focus because she was nervous to make a mistake. Cut her some slack. Team USA wouldn't have even won the gold. China was too dominant on bars. So blaming her is ignorant
In my opinion, she didn't cost the gold medal. USA had no chance of winning at all to China who was so fucking overscored. Funny there is a thing called Home Team Advantage.
0.3 stumble on the spin. 0.1 Jump backwards on the double arabian. 0.1 leg not high enough in the ring leap. 0.2 bent legs within the front layout after the 2.5 twist. 0.5 landing of the tumble. A: 6.1 B: 8.8 SCORE: 14.900 I thought lol
No she didn’t. Even is she had not fallen twice in the team final the usa would still be second if you do the math. China won the team title by 2 and a half points ahead of the us so the gold still wouldn’t be possible. Stop putting the blame on her. She doesn’t deserve it.
@@barbie.ferreira I agree with you about the blame not needing to be on her. But for clarity's sake, I did the math. USA lost by 1.475. Get those two falls back and that's USA winning by .125 - a margin too close to even accurately call. She didn't lose them the gold, but with those falls back, it would have been REALLY REALLY close.
Poor Alicia, she was definitely feeling the pressure there... I mean, she did so well up until they arrived in Beijing.. Had she performed like she did during the rest of the year she definitely would have been a great asset to team USA..
Wait a minute she still is a great asset to the team no matter what happened. She is an amazing athlete and will always be one. That’s the problem there’s so much pressure put on this athletes. They can do perfectly well because they’ve done perfectly well previously but at the Olympics anything can happen you can be the worst in that moment and not having that support is about the worst thing ever.
I will never understand why they didn't just replace the 2.5 + front layout to a triple. She had problems with that pass for 2 years.
Because a pass with two summersaults is a requirement and if you don't have it it's a 0.5 deduction. But they definitely could've changed it
@@Triple_Y_turn I didn't realize that, thank you! The 06-08 code was weird.
@@gymnasmic7425 well I think it's still in the current code, and now we also have the front tumbling requirement😂. The code is getting more and more weird
@@Triple_Y_turn thank you, I forgot that requirement existed
She nailed that same pass many times. including trials, including podium training... so um... shhh.
Ela não estava bem psicologicamente nesta olimpíada e é bem nítido a pressão no o rosto.
right, but barring a truly epic disaster, the us would've made it into the top 8. i don't know, i just felt like the commentators were trying too hard to make everything more dramatic than it actually was :\
Okay the total deductions would be 1.3, but that's too harsh, so I'll take away the deepish landing deduction from the firts pass which I was iffy on, and the .1 hop back on layout, and .1 leg form on 2.5 for 1.1 deductions, bringing her to 14.9 approximately, plus .500 penalty for 14.400 close to what she got. But im no expert.
i don't understand why the commentators are so worried about having all four scores count; this is just qualifying, and all that really matters are the scores the three who compete on each apparatus in the TF get.
Probably because she could've made floor finals
Alicia was my favourite gringa gymnast
what's that
You'll have to be harsher than that. I know there are some deductions on the leaps/jumps too but im not sure what to take.
OK:
.3 stumble on spin
.1 posture/deepish landing 1st pass
.1 hop back on arabian
.1 leg form on 2.5/off-direction as a result
.5 tucking the layout
.1 hop back uncontrolled layout
.1 posture/deep ish landing on pike
I got 5.9 SV, devalued the turn and the first split jump, meant to be 1.5 but got 1.25ish around,
Eu amo essa música
before her mistake it looked like she was having n fun like she worked so hard to get there she should enjoy the expierience
half a point doesnt seem like a whole lot to me, but I don't really understand the whole score thing.
ConcreteAngelx3 a half a point at the Olympics is a big deal. If she didn’t have that half a point deducted, she could have possibly made it into the floor final.
@ConcreteAngelx3 The difficulty is not out of a 10.0. The person who gave that info below isn't correct. The difficulty goes on, as hard as your routine is. The execution is out of ten. So, if you see a 15 on floor (which is rare in the new code), an example is that a gymnast had an 8.7 in execution, and a 6.3 in difficulty. Give or take some tenths.
lmao, Elfi's uhooooh
The out of bounds messed it up😥😥😥
@DuhustBus000 I do agree that I should have devalued the spin but not the first split jump. You also have to take into account the difficulty of the jumps, spins, tumbles, etc. I do agree that 14.900 seemed too high, but they were all the deductions I found.
Where is it that fat, I'm not seeing? She is very hot, most americamos think hot woman has to be lean and skinny legs well, she's the perfect body and super beautiful! While the presentation it seemed that this day she was very confused missed the presentation, plus who is not never been wrong? She is an excellent gymnast, Alicia strength!
and her score please
14.425
She doomed US since the preliminaries. Memmel was injured. Damn badluck for the US. I mean if Memmel wasnt injured she should be doing the balance beam, uv and fx. Alicia only on vault. Alicia did error after error at fx and beam. Since the preliminaries going to finals. This could have change. Memmel was a former world medalist on uv, bb and aa. Alicia vault only and only won fx medal after olympics.
Alicia was FX world champion in 2005 and silver medalist in 2007. It was vault that she didn't win world gold on until after Beijing (2010 Worlds).
She had a rough go at the Olympics- not the first person to do so. Saying all this about her reveals how little respect you have for elite athletes in general. I truly hope you never make a single mistake at a critical moment ever in your life, because that will just prove you a hypocrite.
@WillyWonkaif if you think fat means having a six pack and going to the olympics then good luck
@iheartgymnastics555 ohh ok.. so does that mean 20.0 would be a perfect score?? ..I see a lot of 15's .. whats the average difficulty for gymnasts like alicia, shawn and nastia?
there's no such thing as a "perfect score" in the new scoring system.
Score???
14.425
Ella en verdad fue una gran verdadera decepción en la gimnasia en Beijing 2008 y es por eso que el propio Bela karolgy ya no la quiso en este deporte.
Considering Bela and Marta knowingly allowed gymnasts to be sexually assaulted by Larry Nasser, I’d say their opinion was pretty much a farce. She had a tough Olympics but that should never be a reason to be blackballed. I’m just glad she was able to have success after, including her vault gold in 2010. She should definitely feel proud of her achievements.
Used to be a 10 was perfect. They gave those even when it wasn't perfect. Anyway, who is calling Alicia fat? You can't flex fat.
@WillyWonkaS2 good luck
I hear this music and I just think bad news. The music just seems depressing.
@WillyWonkaS2 wow that actually made no sense
Score？
What was her score??
14.400
She choked this entire games. Some have said she was having ankle injuries but who can feel the pain when you're competing at an Olympics? Surprised she was let back onto the national team. Totally could have used her for 2012 but Martha was right to keep her off. She cost the team a gold medal. Russia has sent Pavlova packing and was smart to do so.
yes to everything, though Alicia is on of my all time favorite gymnasts.
There was no reason to send her packing after 2008. Alicia was a HUGE asset to team USA from 2005 onward. Don't forget she is the 2010 world champ on vault and should have won a medal on beam in Rotterdam as well. I would love to see you compete on floor with an ankle injury. It messes with your head when you're injured. She just kinda lost her focus because she was nervous to make a mistake. Cut her some slack. Team USA wouldn't have even won the gold. China was too dominant on bars. So blaming her is ignorant
Just because an athlete is not good at one competition does not mean that they are not consistent in general. Everyone is allowed an offday.
In my opinion, she didn't cost the gold medal. USA had no chance of winning at all to China who was so fucking overscored. Funny there is a thing called Home Team Advantage.
@@flexility3408 first and foremost the Chinese were the stronger team
0.3 stumble on the spin.
0.1 Jump backwards on the double arabian.
0.1 leg not high enough in the ring leap.
0.2 bent legs within the front layout after the 2.5 twist.
0.5 landing of the tumble.
A: 6.1
B: 8.8
SCORE: 14.900
I thought lol
No choreography, only splits.
Good, though she stepped out.
Ponor
...and she was never heard from again.
Ummm, yes she was. She was put on the US World Championships team for both 2010 and 2011 (injury notwithstanding).
She was the 2010 world vault champion. I’d say she was heard from again- duh.
@WillyWonkaS2 Yeah. So because she has so many fans, then she's fat! That makes sense.
Never got the hype about her, she was an average floor worker at best
And a world champion, world silver medalist on the event. Average is the IQ of the person writing this comment… below, that is.
Too bad her legacy would be destroyed a few days later.
judges were biased because it was in china. sure she made a couple errors, but still deserved the medal
no
She ruined Team Gold USA
No she didn’t. Even is she had not fallen twice in the team final the usa would still be second if you do the math. China won the team title by 2 and a half points ahead of the us so the gold still wouldn’t be possible. Stop putting the blame on her. She doesn’t deserve it.
the Chinese team was better in general. the US had only all arounders on the team which wasn't good
@@barbie.ferreira I agree with you about the blame not needing to be on her. But for clarity's sake, I did the math. USA lost by 1.475. Get those two falls back and that's USA winning by .125 - a margin too close to even accurately call.
She didn't lose them the gold, but with those falls back, it would have been REALLY REALLY close.
@@pettygryphon9285 China won by 2.375 actually
@@jacksonxu9901 you're right. Shoot I misread. China won QUALS by 1.475.