She had injuries between the 06 and 07 seasons… I really wonder if she had stayed injury free, she definitely could have made that amanar a real possibility
Alicia should have gotten the bronze medal instead of Cheng Fei. I never understood the scoring on this. Cheng fell on one of her landings but got the bronze and Alicia had two clean landings but got fourth? I’m still confused by it.
This is the way I like to think about it: Fei had a 9 tenth advantage over Alicia. Fei gave up 8 tenths due to the fall, resulting in a net 1-tenth advantage over Alicia. On top of the net 1-tenth advantage, Fei essentially has the advantage of not counting any landing deductions on her second vault, as the landing deduction is already factored into the net 1-tenth advantage. What this means is that Alicia had to be at least 1-tenth cleaner excluding the fall. Both are two of the cleanest vaulters in history, so it was close. Alicia's landings definitely cost her. While my intuition (and many others') tells me that Alicia did better, the CoP of that time tells a different story. FIG seems to agree with my intuition, as they're cracked down on poor technique and low vaults more and more throughout the years (and also decreased the net gain for going for more difficult vaults). Alicia definitely would've beaten Fei in any of the following quadrenniums. The real injustice, if you asked me, is Oksana Chusovitina beating Alicia. Oksana only had a 2 tenth advantage over Alicia and I think Alicia was at least a tenth cleaner on each vault...
...why can I NOT, for the life of me, find any videos of the event finals in these Olympics showing any more than just 1 gymnasts performance, or just the Gold, or just the top 3- for ANY of the women's 4 apparatus finals?! I want to watch all 8 doing each event final, but noooooo... guess NOT!? WTF.... some crappy ass olympic coverage of a pretty darn popular sport, if u ask me!!!!
Just a 1.5 but her legs were so squeezed perfectly together it’s hard to count but she did a very nicely executed front handspring 1.5 twist maybe you will se on the slow mo
She could never hold a vault landing, she was always bouncing everywhere. I'd be upset about her not winning bronze if she hadn't told Maroney to shut up when she told her teammates that Nassar was molesting her.
@@yooowhatsgood It's speculation, but the facts line up. Alicia was a much older teammate to McKayla & Aly at the 2011 Worlds. Nassar probably didn't go after Alicia bc she was older, and he knew she would fuck him up if he did that to her.
@@auspicious93 I think Anna Li was one of the older girls as well, could’ve been her too. Also I agree, Alicia has always been so outspoken and carefree in her interviews, if Nassar tried to touch her or any girl with parents as their coaches, he would’ve been locked up wayyy sooner
What the hell she came 4th that’s so unfair cheng fell on her 2nd vault how did she not medal. 🙄😠Like In the beam final cheng had multiple errors and Anna only had one little one. 😩 🙄They so favourited China.
In vault Cheng had a much higher total start value than Alicia, and so the fall only negated some of that. Alicia would have gotten bronze if she could have landed two clean vaults- she didn’t. In beam final Cheng had many checks and balance breaks, but Anna COMPLETELY MISSED AN ENTIRE ELEMENT! She also had several checks herself including the dismount. She also didn’t have quite as much start value as Cheng did. Both results were fair and justified, get over it.
I’ve seen you comment this same comment a couple times on different videos. You should charge Alicia rent. Cause she’s currently living rent free inside your head hun
the US lost by 2.4 points. Alicia's falls counted for only 1.6. She is not the reason at all. Falls or not, the US would have gotten silver. And other than the falls, her routines were incredible.
@@doughtyluke Plus if we are not going to count Alicia's falls then we shouldn't count Cheng Fei's fall on beam. And that would even further the distance between those teams. Plus imo it was all Marta's fault for 1) not naming the full team right after the Olympic trials, 2) overworking Chellsie and Sam leading them to injuries after showing their worth time and time again and 3) turning Alicia into a head case by making her compete at the ranch to get her spot at the Olympics after the Olympic trials(even though there was no reason for Marta not to take her - she was a lock for the team bc she was the only one who could medal on vault and also medal on floor plus her experience) and pressuring her too much. Also, it was later revealed that Alicia was dealing with an injury the whole 2008.
@@josiefa5852 Don't deny it, I've seen your comment many times hating Alicia. Maybe you should charge Alicia a rent coz she stucked on your mind poor clout🤡
I appreciate how elfie subtly mentions how decorated Alicia is to quiet the haters after team finals.
Still she hammered her talking about her low SV
I've always wondered why Alicia never upgraded to an Amanar, she technically has enough power to do one
She struggled with the dty she’s said before
I think she could never get past the mental block of a front landing on vault.
She had injuries between the 06 and 07 seasons… I really wonder if she had stayed injury free, she definitely could have made that amanar a real possibility
whats an anamar???
@@albertciarpelli6563 2.5 twisting yurchenko
Alicia is a favorite. I enjoy her music on floor routines.
Alicia should have gotten the bronze medal instead of Cheng Fei. I never understood the scoring on this. Cheng fell on one of her landings but got the bronze and Alicia had two clean landings but got fourth? I’m still confused by it.
probably because Cheng's vaults had higher start values.
at the beginning they say her start value is lower than Fei's
This is the way I like to think about it:
Fei had a 9 tenth advantage over Alicia. Fei gave up 8 tenths due to the fall, resulting in a net 1-tenth advantage over Alicia. On top of the net 1-tenth advantage, Fei essentially has the advantage of not counting any landing deductions on her second vault, as the landing deduction is already factored into the net 1-tenth advantage. What this means is that Alicia had to be at least 1-tenth cleaner excluding the fall. Both are two of the cleanest vaulters in history, so it was close. Alicia's landings definitely cost her.
While my intuition (and many others') tells me that Alicia did better, the CoP of that time tells a different story. FIG seems to agree with my intuition, as they're cracked down on poor technique and low vaults more and more throughout the years (and also decreased the net gain for going for more difficult vaults). Alicia definitely would've beaten Fei in any of the following quadrenniums.
The real injustice, if you asked me, is Oksana Chusovitina beating Alicia. Oksana only had a 2 tenth advantage over Alicia and I think Alicia was at least a tenth cleaner on each vault...
Because Chinese Olympic Committee bribed the judges. FIG has been corrupted always.
Albert Wilkes you think USA didnt attempt?
Beautifully great she is from her leo with skills that it would be great if she won Bronze, Silver, or Gold.
...why can I NOT, for the life of me, find any videos of the event finals in these Olympics showing any more than just 1 gymnasts performance, or just the Gold, or just the top 3- for ANY of the women's 4 apparatus finals?! I want to watch all 8 doing each event final, but noooooo... guess NOT!? WTF.... some crappy ass olympic coverage of a pretty darn popular sport, if u ask me!!!!
Actually there are the complete vault, bars and beam finals. Only floor final hasn't been uploaded yet
Same! I've been searching too, glad it's not just me. :D Well.not glad, as shows it probably doesn't exist:(
@@gabhunter4333 With commentary?
No one:
Me tryna figure out if the first vault was a 2.5 twist or a 1.5 twist: 🧐
Just a 1.5 but her legs were so squeezed perfectly together it’s hard to count but she did a very nicely executed front handspring 1.5 twist maybe you will se on the slow mo
She was a brilliant vaulter!
She could never hold a vault landing, she was always bouncing everywhere.
I'd be upset about her not winning bronze if she hadn't told Maroney to shut up when she told her teammates that Nassar was molesting her.
@@shawk2832 yup.
@@2345678902345671 proof??
Source?
@@yooowhatsgood It's speculation, but the facts line up. Alicia was a much older teammate to McKayla & Aly at the 2011 Worlds. Nassar probably didn't go after Alicia bc she was older, and he knew she would fuck him up if he did that to her.
@@auspicious93 I think Anna Li was one of the older girls as well, could’ve been her too. Also I agree, Alicia has always been so outspoken and carefree in her interviews, if Nassar tried to touch her or any girl with parents as their coaches, he would’ve been locked up wayyy sooner
If necks could get awards
should have won silver
Le dan mucho puntaje a la china.
I can’t stand Tim Daggett. Whose side are you on anyway?
What the hell she came 4th that’s so unfair cheng fell on her 2nd vault how did she not medal. 🙄😠Like In the beam final cheng had multiple errors and Anna only had one little one. 😩 🙄They so favourited China.
In vault Cheng had a much higher total start value than Alicia, and so the fall only negated some of that. Alicia would have gotten bronze if she could have landed two clean vaults- she didn’t.
In beam final Cheng had many checks and balance breaks, but Anna COMPLETELY MISSED AN ENTIRE ELEMENT! She also had several checks herself including the dismount. She also didn’t have quite as much start value as Cheng did. Both results were fair and justified, get over it.
Did this girl contribute at all for the silver medal at all? I feel like she’s the reason US lost the gold. She hurt the team more than she helped it.
I’ve seen you comment this same comment a couple times on different videos. You should charge Alicia rent. Cause she’s currently living rent free inside your head hun
@@prophecygirl93 not really. I only commented this once or twice maybe.
the US lost by 2.4 points. Alicia's falls counted for only 1.6. She is not the reason at all. Falls or not, the US would have gotten silver. And other than the falls, her routines were incredible.
@@doughtyluke Plus if we are not going to count Alicia's falls then we shouldn't count Cheng Fei's fall on beam. And that would even further the distance between those teams. Plus imo it was all Marta's fault for 1) not naming the full team right after the Olympic trials, 2) overworking Chellsie and Sam leading them to injuries after showing their worth time and time again and 3) turning Alicia into a head case by making her compete at the ranch to get her spot at the Olympics after the Olympic trials(even though there was no reason for Marta not to take her - she was a lock for the team bc she was the only one who could medal on vault and also medal on floor plus her experience) and pressuring her too much. Also, it was later revealed that Alicia was dealing with an injury the whole 2008.
@@josiefa5852 Don't deny it, I've seen your comment many times hating Alicia. Maybe you should charge Alicia a rent coz she stucked on your mind poor clout🤡