@@jimmyvelasco1570 Pig is the best for technical analysis, Tastosis is the best for chemistry, Zombiegrub is pure Fire and Hype, everyone else is very solid but they dont have an edge like the others. Was actually impressed with Tasteless commentary the through this though, expected bit more laziness out of him but he really stepped up since Artosis left GSL.
@@Jeff-fc7nf LMAO you are obviously biased if you expected laziness from Tasteless. Best casting is always going to be Tastosis in all fronts, regardless of what haters think.
@@MrDdz Not a hater at all. Been watching starcraft for ever. Used to tune in everyday to Day9 and watch GomTV on the internet when live. I love Tastosis, but personally I felt he was a bit lazy as a caster. You compare him, as a stand alone, to PIG, and PIGs strategical game knowledge in unmatched by and single caster. Tastless analysis is very low level, and rarely delves into ultra meta game theory with advanced game mechanical analysis. Tastless never even goes there and he doesnt have to, thats not his schtick as a caster, he goofy, funny, lovable and knowledgeable but hes been mostly the same for over a decade. Still talking to his audience like they are watching SC for the very first time. Bro is been like 15 years, 80% of the audience has been watching for 10 years minimum. Tastless cast games for Gold league players, Artosis elevated that to Diamond and they have a amazing chemistry. Pig on the other hand cast games for Gold through Grand Masters. He actively plays the game a lot and can bang with the best of them. He could coach most players in the top 20 and advise them on ways to improve mechanically and technically. I am never going to learn anything from watching tastless, but that doesnt take away from his talent and entertainment, but PIG often enhances my thinking about the game in a way no other caster does. PIG is like DAY9 with super powers, he is what I think Day9 would have evolved to had he maintained his SC2 content. I want to know how the coach and the big brains are strategizing about the game, how are players attempting to take advantages of players strengths and weaknesses. Its a stylistic and entertainment preference, not a bias. One is not better than the other. But Tastless lack of development as a commentator/caster has not really evolved much for 10 years and I think its lazy. He stepped up on his knowledge or either just addressing more in depth strategy strategy in this recent tournament when compared to how he normally commentates in GSL. I know because I watch most GSL matches, I could tell he was give more than he normally does. Never said "theres not much going on" in this tournament or similar statements like he normally does in early games. There is always unlimited things to discuss about a single match even in the first 2 minutes, there is always nuance, there is always history and map balance, common strategies and the meta around them for each match that is specific to each match up. Normally he is being goofy unless there is engagement between the players.
Honestly Time looked like Maru in the games he won. Endless stream of perfect micro backed up by uninterrupted macro for 20-30 minutes, if you cover the nametag I'm definitely saying Maru. Typically nobody else can do it.
It is amazing that how oliveria able to defense so well almost every single game despite being outnumber with less worker, this guy's defensive skill is unreal. And that 80 avg score on big screen is kinda a joke after this series end.
In game 4 when overlords started dropping lings in to oliveira's base and reynor was up 30 supply I was positive that the series was over. Oliveira showed the heart of a champion and never quit!
This is Time's most impressive series ever, even better than the finals or semifinals as Reynor proved to be, by quite a margin, his toughest opponent in the playoffs. Who would've thougth that he'd end up actually becoming world champion? This is e-sports history right here.
@@alexluna1835Sorry, didn't know it was going to get so many likes and be near the top. Not my intention to spoil anyone, will tag the next time I make a comment like this for sure.
The most epic game in IEM 2023, better than the finals cuz it was this BO5 match where Oliveira underwent a complete transformation. In the second game, he lost but almost completely got into his groove in the latter half, just like a microcosm of the entire rhythm of the series. And Reynor's postures in the final moments were rarely seen. He was mentally crushed by Time's continuous pressure.
Ok, let's not get ahead of ourselves... One tournament win doesn't make you best in the world. If we held another world championship next week he would not be the favourite, although he definitely shot up several places in the rankings. I agree that he's probably better than Clem now.
EMMMMM, In fact, we in the Chinese community refer to Time as Korean Terran because when we at TvT see Time producing Raven we joke that we Korean Terrans all produce Raven.
@@space_orphan there's best at the moment, then there's best of all time. nothing wrong with calling him the best right now. If he got lucky match ups all the way, then I'd agree with what you said, but olivera pretty much fought through all the players that had a shot at winning this year.
@@superdahoho there's the best at the moment, then there's the guy who won the tournament. Winning the tournament doesn't make you the best at the moment. You really think he would be the favourite if another world championship was held this weekend? A big reason underdog stories like this happen is because other players don't prepare much against him. How many hours do you think hero and Reynor spent studying his games and play style and figuring out how to counter it, compared to, say, Serral and Maru? Oliveira did a great job taking advantage of this lack of preparation in this tournament, but other players will be more prepared next time. And do I need to remind you how close Oliveira was to not making it out of the group stage? Maru had an overall better map score throughout the tournament, even with his 4-1 loss in the final. I personally would be shocked if Oliveira could repeat anything close to this feat, but hey, I'd love to be proven wrong.
Oliveira showed incrible preseverance throughout this series. Only champion terrans could survive such aggression from Reynor. The multitusk zerg plays in Game 4 was flooding in terran's base but Oliveira somehow managed to hang in there, come back with great execution and robot-like discipline. Really well played!
This series was good, but if you haven't seen the 2021 Katowice semi-final between Reynor and Maru then you ain't seen NOTHIN. That's the best series ever IMO.
The engagement at 41:20 that ends game 3. Reynor mistimes his flank. The zerglings from the back are all dead by the time the banelines roll forwards so Oliveira can split his marines back. If he delayed the ling flank he wins this engagement hard. Then he's likely just won the series 3-0.
Oliveira also spoke about this in his recent stream and surprised that Reynor made such mistake. You can see percisely at 41:24, banelings at the bottom were blocked by one queen, and Reynor had to move that queen to the side thus wasting lots of time
I didn't believe the player(s) in the finals so now I'm looking at what happened earlier :P Damn, that 2nd game was way closer than it ever should have been. I wonder if it tilted Reynor because hot damn, that was not meant to be such a struggle. Backseat gaming the third game, Reynor destroyed Time's eco and had 5 bases. I was expecting him to sacrifice his 3rd by moving his drones to one of the other bases but he decided to engage early instead of waiting for more lings to pop. That said, he had a lot of banes so I can see why he thought he could take the fight but it turned out to be a greedy decision. 4th game was a surprise. Looks like more Terrans are now capable of playing split map late game TvZ at the highest level. The push on the 4th in the last game was another surprise. Time sniped sooo many banelings for free. Quite impressed Time won so handily, given how potent ling counter attacks are on the third and how much Reynor loves that tactic. I wonder how much map knowledge comes into the equation. Zerg is a defensive race and it takes time to understand which places on the map you should take your engagements and contest to prevent your opponent from taking.
Reynor's game would have work against most other Terrans, or even Time in the past. But somehow, he's evolved into Oliveira and he is playing some crazy high level of sc2. Reynor didn't play bad, he was so close to breaking Oliveira so many times in the 4th game, but Oliveira just held on so brilliantly and made very little mistakes under such intense pressure. Most other Terran players would have cracked and lost against Reynor's push. A well deserved win for Oliveira.
MAP Knowledge definately had a factor in some games, I think alot of people underestimated the new map pool , I saw numerous slip ups in lots of matches, and the grand final winning battle itself was won because maru pathed half of his army the wrong way around the pillars/walls. Reynor also not breaking the rocks meaning his hydra reinforcements were cut off sealed his fate. Movement and control is so important, and knowing the pathings and optimal routes is just as critical.
This was a guy who was seeded so far down the rankings in terms of championship level, on a good day, Hero Maru and Reynor would have probably stomped Time completely, but as he wrote on his chinese stream discussing the matches, he won the Mental Battle, his calmness and patience paid off in spades. Alot of the games, check serral ragnarok, there was a running trend from the top players - Impatience. Alot of early timing attacks and attempts to get damage done because they were not mentally set up to deal with certain scenarios, so it led to wonky trades leading up for huge game ending counterattacks. This game is a prime example and probably the best game of the competition, Some how reynor just some how lost his typical composure and was not playing to his usual standard such as floating eco and missing bane speed and messing around with his build orders, needing Kevin to give him some help is sort of re focusing, whatever was going on, the players seemed to put an extraordinary amount of pressure on themselves, Creator and his emotional distress at the end of the Dark game. Dunno, maybe it was everyone feeling the strain, the rumblings of the upcoming implosion of the Sc2 tournament funding , but this was a VERY emotionally charged tournament, and Oliviera just stuck to his guns and kept his composure and his calmness as everyone around him was losing theirs and making vastly uncharacteristic mistakes over and over again. A true Case study for mental health topics and Esports alike. Fantastic series.
Usually I have nothing but praise for Reynor, but he got what he deserved in Game 4. I don't know why he didn't transition to infestor / broodlord sooner. I would also have made more static defenses like spine crawlers as well, which could have shut down some of the counter-aggression from Oliveira. Reynor just threw away wave after wave of ling/ultra. I don't have a lot of respect for ultras when your opponent has a mass of ghosts. At least with (burrowed) infestors there's the chance of a money shot no the ghost clump. On the other hand, I'm so damned proud of Oliveira, who was on the ropes for a while but hung in there and just calmly dealt with each problem one at a time. That kind of perseverance and determination is what champions are made of!
Yeah, it's well known his late game ZvT is shit. Doesn't know how to close a game besides headbutting in repeatedly with ultras or lurkers, and that doesn't work against a Terran with good defense.
I see a man who has learned from his losses VS. a cocky kid who gets his ass handed back to him. When Oliveira lost game #2 he simply smiled and moved on to possibly his last match. Reynor, however, proved he is still a kid by continuously showing all that frustration.
and now look at the state of the game, Oliviera is now back down to rock bottom of the pro scene getting consistently destroyed by people who are not even championship level and hasn't beaten a top pro post Katowice once in a series, getting destroyed by Maru 4-0, reynor 3-0 several times, maxpax, byun solar clem etc and the games were not ever remotely close, whereas Reynor is back to his virtually invincible form, taking out Gamers8 in the highest most competitive form from every single player there. It is called a cinderella run for a reason, oliviera was the best on the day, but every other day since he is just really bad form.
@@pg8835 your long paragraph is out of context. He decided not to be so devoted now as he was before, as he said in an interview days after receiving the championship, because he wanted to focus more on other things in life.
@@skinnypigiii516 well he isn't going to touch the top 20 players in tournaments so he might as well now . It is still a pretty irrefutable fact that Oliveira is a great player but is massively outclassed by almost every other top pro on the circuit now and just had a single good dream run where he played the tournament of his life. I mean Nico Rosberg retired after winning the F1 title for example. You were trying to make out reynor was just a cocky kid who got his butt handed to him. Reynor got flustered, and messed up his late game as he some times tends to do in ultra late game, but he has shown that when he is in championship mode and focused, he is almost as untouchable as serral is. Oliviera has just had only one single strong showing, and has been irrelevant before and afterwards in every competition whereas Reynor consistently finishes up the top.
I humbly ask: why did Reynor choose not to go Infestors against Ghosts and their snipe? I'm a mediocre player, but I see Ghosts and I build Infestors: there must be a reason why Reynor did not go that way, could somebody please explain me? Thank you in advance
emp out range everything infestor does. Only option is to do it like dark, burrow neural and emp the ghosts themselves when the terran is not looking. But even dark rarely pulls that one successfully
Reynor thinks that because he's a bit faster than other pros he can bludgeon them to death by trying to stress their multi-tasking instead of playing a better strategy. Serral would win from the same position 9 out of 10 times, same with Rogue
Its a double edge sword, if you get EMP on a cluster of your infestors its basically over. Or if you fungal or counter EMP with neural you also basically win. I think Reynor took Oliveira too lightly and went for the constant ling bane pressure. Most other Terran or even Time in the past would have cracked under such pressure, but some how he's evolved into Oliveira and is playing some of the sharpest and highest level of sc2 in his life. Even Reynor's continuous ling drops in the main, lings runby with burrow and ling bane pressure from the front couldn't crack Oliveira. Gotta give it to him, its a well deserved win. Dude even went on to beat her0 and Maru in convincing fashion, goes to show its not a fluke. I hope he continues to play like a mad man and take every chance he sees in the future. If he goes back to his old Time self, playing passive and giving too much respect to his opponents i'd be disappointed.
@@skychaos87 Thank you as well for the reply. To clarify: I also think Oliveira's win was really deserved, hats off to him (and I'm ITA, so seeing Reynor lose hurts me, but I acknowledge every great Oliveira skill)! I just couldn't understand the lack of Infestors from Reynor's side, and your replies are helping me to understand :)
@@alucardlord9032 Maybe it has to do with SC2 not longer being a thing in China from now on. Blizzard lost his contract with NetEase so no more Blizzard games for chinese people, at least in the close future.
@@ACSMEX well who cares about chinese server, hes still playing and competing so i think it doesnt really matter And for now, being the champion of the largest tournament a year? I think everyone wants him now
Had everything, the best plays the best result the best casting. SC2 what a game.
well best casting is always tastosis
@@jimmyvelasco1570 Pig is the best for technical analysis, Tastosis is the best for chemistry, Zombiegrub is pure Fire and Hype, everyone else is very solid but they dont have an edge like the others. Was actually impressed with Tasteless commentary the through this though, expected bit more laziness out of him but he really stepped up since Artosis left GSL.
@@Jeff-fc7nf LMAO you are obviously biased if you expected laziness from Tasteless. Best casting is always going to be Tastosis in all fronts, regardless of what haters think.
@@MrDdz Not a hater at all. Been watching starcraft for ever. Used to tune in everyday to Day9 and watch GomTV on the internet when live. I love Tastosis, but personally I felt he was a bit lazy as a caster. You compare him, as a stand alone, to PIG, and PIGs strategical game knowledge in unmatched by and single caster. Tastless analysis is very low level, and rarely delves into ultra meta game theory with advanced game mechanical analysis. Tastless never even goes there and he doesnt have to, thats not his schtick as a caster, he goofy, funny, lovable and knowledgeable but hes been mostly the same for over a decade. Still talking to his audience like they are watching SC for the very first time. Bro is been like 15 years, 80% of the audience has been watching for 10 years minimum.
Tastless cast games for Gold league players, Artosis elevated that to Diamond and they have a amazing chemistry. Pig on the other hand cast games for Gold through Grand Masters. He actively plays the game a lot and can bang with the best of them. He could coach most players in the top 20 and advise them on ways to improve mechanically and technically. I am never going to learn anything from watching tastless, but that doesnt take away from his talent and entertainment, but PIG often enhances my thinking about the game in a way no other caster does.
PIG is like DAY9 with super powers, he is what I think Day9 would have evolved to had he maintained his SC2 content. I want to know how the coach and the big brains are strategizing about the game, how are players attempting to take advantages of players strengths and weaknesses.
Its a stylistic and entertainment preference, not a bias. One is not better than the other. But Tastless lack of development as a commentator/caster has not really evolved much for 10 years and I think its lazy. He stepped up on his knowledge or either just addressing more in depth strategy strategy in this recent tournament when compared to how he normally commentates in GSL. I know because I watch most GSL matches, I could tell he was give more than he normally does. Never said "theres not much going on" in this tournament or similar statements like he normally does in early games. There is always unlimited things to discuss about a single match even in the first 2 minutes, there is always nuance, there is always history and map balance, common strategies and the meta around them for each match that is specific to each match up. Normally he is being goofy unless there is engagement between the players.
@@Jeff-fc7nf ok you win the argument just for bothering to write that much.
Oliveira is playing so damn sharp, all those baneling snipes are so on point. Dude must have practiced so hard to get to where he is today.
He said he was practicing 12-14hrs every single day in the past 1yr to get to this point !
While watching Oliveira playing, it gives me a feeling of Taeja and Polt.
wrr
Baneling snipe is one of the best i ever see in this game
Oliveira seems to transform into a different player during the second game, after that he was simply unstoppable.
Honestly Time looked like Maru in the games he won. Endless stream of perfect micro backed up by uninterrupted macro for 20-30 minutes, if you cover the nametag I'm definitely saying Maru. Typically nobody else can do it.
Game 4, that was not a game, that was a life lesson, showing you what to do when you are down. You fight back.
It is amazing that how oliveria able to defense so well almost every single game despite being outnumber with less worker, this guy's defensive skill is unreal. And that 80 avg score on big screen is kinda a joke after this series end.
The scorecards was just light fun, not to be taken literal.
In game 4 when overlords started dropping lings in to oliveira's base and reynor was up 30 supply I was positive that the series was over. Oliveira showed the heart of a champion and never quit!
sick series. hats off to Time. Maru had an easy run till the finals but Time had to battle out the best players to reach finals. truly deserved
What a cast for ZG. Amazing ! It was so exciting! Game 2 OMG just loved it
nonstop words
totally agree.
she kinda ruined it for me, too much screeching
Literally came here to say exactly that. Gave me goosebumps, what good casting!!
Best games ever from this brilliant Chinese player. Wish him the best of luck for the rest of the games.
Little did we know 😆 amazing run. Best I've ever seen in any sports imo.
Historical reverse sweep. Good job Raynor, congrats to Oliveira.
This is Time's most impressive series ever, even better than the finals or semifinals as Reynor proved to be, by quite a margin, his toughest opponent in the playoffs. Who would've thougth that he'd end up actually becoming world champion? This is e-sports history right here.
Could you at least label your comment as a spoiler for people who watch these in order@ cmon man
@@alexluna1835Sorry, didn't know it was going to get so many likes and be near the top. Not my intention to spoil anyone, will tag the next time I make a comment like this for sure.
Big congrats to 李少! So well deserved!
Hell yeah!! World class performance at THEE world tournament, absolutely brilliant. Love from England
Lets hope we have more Chinese players break through internationally, it is good to see.
wr
李少开酒！
@@TheSuperappelflapno. Their government is going to enslave the world. Keep them down and in check.
THIS GAME WAS EPIC!! OLIVEIRA PLAYED SO WELL!! GGWP
This is your TIME to shine!
The fourth game is Oliveira's best game, he waited, he endured and when he had a chance he went all out for the game and won, incredible!
Incredible series. What a performance from TIME, feel for Reynor but he was simply outplayed here. GGs!
What a cast for ZG. Amazing ! It was so exciting! Game 2 OMG just loved it
So intense. You don't see someone put Reynor in to an almost panic often. Time is such a special story.
After game 2, Oliveira went full god mode: 10-2 in a map score vs the best Terran, best Protoss, and arguably best Zerg in the world.
It was like a movie. This story had everything a great underdog triumph needs.
SPOILER:
Oliviera becomes world champion!
Really epic moment in game no. 2 from 24:28. Watch the banelings!
The most epic game in IEM 2023, better than the finals cuz it was this BO5 match where Oliveira underwent a complete transformation. In the second game, he lost but almost completely got into his groove in the latter half, just like a microcosm of the entire rhythm of the series. And Reynor's postures in the final moments were rarely seen. He was mentally crushed by Time's continuous pressure.
good casting makes this 1000% more enjoyable - great job!
24:11 on, Zombie grub is chilling my bones. Commentary with so much passion man. What Oliveira did is amazing ofc. Great series
"Is Time the second best non-korean Terran?"
Nope, he's the best player in the world.
Ok, let's not get ahead of ourselves... One tournament win doesn't make you best in the world. If we held another world championship next week he would not be the favourite, although he definitely shot up several places in the rankings. I agree that he's probably better than Clem now.
EMMMMM, In fact, we in the Chinese community refer to Time as Korean Terran because when we at TvT see Time producing Raven we joke that we Korean Terrans all produce Raven.
@@erichye7214 Time trained a lot with Byun and TY in 2019-2020. Not suprising if Time plays like Korean Terran.
@@space_orphan there's best at the moment, then there's best of all time. nothing wrong with calling him the best right now. If he got lucky match ups all the way, then I'd agree with what you said, but olivera pretty much fought through all the players that had a shot at winning this year.
@@superdahoho there's the best at the moment, then there's the guy who won the tournament. Winning the tournament doesn't make you the best at the moment. You really think he would be the favourite if another world championship was held this weekend? A big reason underdog stories like this happen is because other players don't prepare much against him. How many hours do you think hero and Reynor spent studying his games and play style and figuring out how to counter it, compared to, say, Serral and Maru? Oliveira did a great job taking advantage of this lack of preparation in this tournament, but other players will be more prepared next time. And do I need to remind you how close Oliveira was to not making it out of the group stage? Maru had an overall better map score throughout the tournament, even with his 4-1 loss in the final. I personally would be shocked if Oliveira could repeat anything close to this feat, but hey, I'd love to be proven wrong.
This is where the dream started for Oliveira! I'm here for the second time.
Oliveira showed incrible preseverance throughout this series. Only champion terrans could survive such aggression from Reynor. The multitusk zerg plays in Game 4 was flooding in terran's base but Oliveira somehow managed to hang in there, come back with great execution and robot-like discipline. Really well played!
1:29:00 I was moved by the emotional response of these two players!
Yeah, but it kinda feels like Reynor lost the mental game in this series. Always so heartbreaking to watch him lose. He needs a win.
His tactics are so good once he starts to feel confident.
Amazing games, huge congrats!
I watched this series a few times, so fun to watch, amazing reverse sweep, really well play.
OH. MY. GOD. These games were probably the best Starcraft games I've ever seen. LITERALLY INSANE. SO DESERVED.
Terran fuck sniping everything with ghost. So much skill. 😂
@@critical-thinker666 I said nothing about skill. Pure entertainment value, and I'm the wrong person to complain about balance to. 😆
Wow, that some of the most epic games! What an Amazing comeback! Down 2-0 and comes back 3 set straight with so many hard frought battles.
wow, Oliveira's fist-pumping is so energetic, just like his gameplay~ He knows when to take risks, and is willing to take risks. So enjoyable
What a series, what a cast, ZG you are the best!
That was crazy, Was not expecting Time to get to finals
Game 4 was amazing! Bravo for Oli!
第4场比赛 看了2遍，非常精彩。Reynor实终是没有办法打进去，抓头发
those beautiful blue flames
how did Oliveira manage to defend in game 4? totally blew my mind. what a game.
Holy shit I'm now a fan of Oliveira, the female caster was really good as well
This should be the final game...Both player played so well..Those micros and macros..Holy
Dude ZG's excitement in the end of game 2 was chef's kiss -- she's become such a good caster over the years.
Amazing cast. Big gz to ZG and FearDragon and production in general, keep it up!
Probably one of the best series I've ever seen.
This series was good, but if you haven't seen the 2021 Katowice semi-final between Reynor and Maru then you ain't seen NOTHIN. That's the best series ever IMO.
I loved seral playstyle but it's Oliveira's time ggs . Most awesome match I watch
Why did they have to cut off the interview :(
oliveira bullied everybody today lord
Don't spoil it. Man. Yup he was amazing.
@@walden6272 dont look at the comment section
So patient, so methodical. Superb playing
1:12:00 Reynor: Timba Harstem:______
SPOILER:
Crazy games, amazing for Oliveira to hold his own and then dominate against one of the best zergs right now
Sorry but Reynor is not even top10 zerg right now
@@danicule8671 Lol I would maybe understand if you said top 3 but outside of top 10 is just factually wrong.
Thanks for spoiler
@@danicule8671 I’m sorry are you brain dead?
@@danicule8671 could you name not more 5 zergs that are better than Reynor?
BEST MATCH I have ever seen!!!!
The engagement at 41:20 that ends game 3. Reynor mistimes his flank. The zerglings from the back are all dead by the time the banelines roll forwards so Oliveira can split his marines back. If he delayed the ling flank he wins this engagement hard. Then he's likely just won the series 3-0.
Oliveira also spoke about this in his recent stream and surprised that Reynor made such mistake. You can see percisely at 41:24, banelings at the bottom were blocked by one queen, and Reynor had to move that queen to the side thus wasting lots of time
this is better than the final match. tvz is awesome.
Game 2 was so crazy. These players are insane
A historical moment: Reynor is submitting an Imbalance Report live, right after ESL match
27:04 Reynor felt pretty good about his chances
lol cute kid growing up into macho intaliano
Time went to the toilet and got Reynor lose the momentum🤣
I love ZG casts, her humor/ jokes really hit me hard.
I didn't believe the player(s) in the finals so now I'm looking at what happened earlier :P Damn, that 2nd game was way closer than it ever should have been. I wonder if it tilted Reynor because hot damn, that was not meant to be such a struggle.
Backseat gaming the third game, Reynor destroyed Time's eco and had 5 bases. I was expecting him to sacrifice his 3rd by moving his drones to one of the other bases but he decided to engage early instead of waiting for more lings to pop. That said, he had a lot of banes so I can see why he thought he could take the fight but it turned out to be a greedy decision.
4th game was a surprise. Looks like more Terrans are now capable of playing split map late game TvZ at the highest level. The push on the 4th in the last game was another surprise. Time sniped sooo many banelings for free.
Quite impressed Time won so handily, given how potent ling counter attacks are on the third and how much Reynor loves that tactic. I wonder how much map knowledge comes into the equation. Zerg is a defensive race and it takes time to understand which places on the map you should take your engagements and contest to prevent your opponent from taking.
Oliveira just played better, bro
Reynor's game would have work against most other Terrans, or even Time in the past. But somehow, he's evolved into Oliveira and he is playing some crazy high level of sc2. Reynor didn't play bad, he was so close to breaking Oliveira so many times in the 4th game, but Oliveira just held on so brilliantly and made very little mistakes under such intense pressure. Most other Terran players would have cracked and lost against Reynor's push. A well deserved win for Oliveira.
MAP Knowledge definately had a factor in some games, I think alot of people underestimated the new map pool , I saw numerous slip ups in lots of matches, and the grand final winning battle itself was won because maru pathed half of his army the wrong way around the pillars/walls. Reynor also not breaking the rocks meaning his hydra reinforcements were cut off sealed his fate.
Movement and control is so important, and knowing the pathings and optimal routes is just as critical.
you should see his series vs HerO, there’s one specific moment in it that really set him apart for me. His risk assessment is on POINT
The final match was absolutely a Patton moment.
“Reynor, you magnificent son-of-a-#%$&@… I READ YOUR BOOK!”
it's truly amazing that the Terren player could beat Reynor like this.
Ghost troops in Oliverira hands just like ghosts from God.
Watching reynor squirm is a bit nice after watching him walk over many of my favorite players many many times.
squirm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
That stat card though.. what a big "FU" to Time, and the dude threw it right back.
2024 and still amazing
This was a guy who was seeded so far down the rankings in terms of championship level, on a good day, Hero Maru and Reynor would have probably stomped Time completely, but as he wrote on his chinese stream discussing the matches, he won the Mental Battle, his calmness and patience paid off in spades.
Alot of the games, check serral ragnarok, there was a running trend from the top players - Impatience. Alot of early timing attacks and attempts to get damage done because they were not mentally set up to deal with certain scenarios, so it led to wonky trades leading up for huge game ending counterattacks. This game is a prime example and probably the best game of the competition, Some how reynor just some how lost his typical composure and was not playing to his usual standard such as floating eco and missing bane speed and messing around with his build orders, needing Kevin to give him some help is sort of re focusing, whatever was going on, the players seemed to put an extraordinary amount of pressure on themselves, Creator and his emotional distress at the end of the Dark game.
Dunno, maybe it was everyone feeling the strain, the rumblings of the upcoming implosion of the Sc2 tournament funding , but this was a VERY emotionally charged tournament, and Oliviera just stuck to his guns and kept his composure and his calmness as everyone around him was losing theirs and making vastly uncharacteristic mistakes over and over again.
A true Case study for mental health topics and Esports alike. Fantastic series.
1:12:00 Captain captaining
That was such an upset!!! Brutal!
The best series ever!
27:30 Reynor looks invincible at this point! But I think I heard something about this match...
Usually I have nothing but praise for Reynor, but he got what he deserved in Game 4. I don't know why he didn't transition to infestor / broodlord sooner. I would also have made more static defenses like spine crawlers as well, which could have shut down some of the counter-aggression from Oliveira. Reynor just threw away wave after wave of ling/ultra. I don't have a lot of respect for ultras when your opponent has a mass of ghosts. At least with (burrowed) infestors there's the chance of a money shot no the ghost clump.
On the other hand, I'm so damned proud of Oliveira, who was on the ropes for a while but hung in there and just calmly dealt with each problem one at a time. That kind of perseverance and determination is what champions are made of!
On stage, game five, we witness the five stages of grief by Reynor. How appropriate.
They did reynor dirty with all those cam switches lol
I normally hate terran, but this, this was so well played jesus freakin' christ Oliveira looked unbreakable in that final game
Well Terran is broken ASF. Took retarded Terran cunts only decade to realize.
Who is this guy at 1:11:41 ? Is he trying to help Reynor?
it's finally the TIME!
Oliveira was insane in game 3 and 4. Crazy games
Reynor had game 3 in the bag and basically gave it away.
Yeah, it's well known his late game ZvT is shit. Doesn't know how to close a game besides headbutting in repeatedly with ultras or lurkers, and that doesn't work against a Terran with good defense.
@@space_orphan only maru knows how to play lategame vs zerg.
the moment when he started believe :-)
1:01:00 Ghosts so sick against Ultras (if you can micro the snipes, of course)
I see a man who has learned from his losses VS. a cocky kid who gets his ass handed back to him. When Oliveira lost game #2 he simply smiled and moved on to possibly his last match. Reynor, however, proved he is still a kid by continuously showing all that frustration.
and now look at the state of the game, Oliviera is now back down to rock bottom of the pro scene getting consistently destroyed by people who are not even championship level and hasn't beaten a top pro post Katowice once in a series, getting destroyed by Maru 4-0, reynor 3-0 several times, maxpax, byun solar clem etc and the games were not ever remotely close, whereas Reynor is back to his virtually invincible form, taking out Gamers8 in the highest most competitive form from every single player there. It is called a cinderella run for a reason, oliviera was the best on the day, but every other day since he is just really bad form.
@@pg8835 your long paragraph is out of context. He decided not to be so devoted now as he was before, as he said in an interview days after receiving the championship, because he wanted to focus more on other things in life.
@@skinnypigiii516 well he isn't going to touch the top 20 players in tournaments so he might as well now . It is still a pretty irrefutable fact that Oliveira is a great player but is massively outclassed by almost every other top pro on the circuit now and just had a single good dream run where he played the tournament of his life. I mean Nico Rosberg retired after winning the F1 title for example. You were trying to make out reynor was just a cocky kid who got his butt handed to him. Reynor got flustered, and messed up his late game as he some times tends to do in ultra late game, but he has shown that when he is in championship mode and focused, he is almost as untouchable as serral is. Oliviera has just had only one single strong showing, and has been irrelevant before and afterwards in every competition whereas Reynor consistently finishes up the top.
they underestimated him ,they did not show him respect as a player .
What a come back!! NB
second game is so amazing
WOW !!!! WOW !!! WOW !!!
Amazing baneling snipes
That second game....wow
4th game is amazing from Oliveria
Just good to see Zerg going down for once.
Damn I've seen this game three times
Legit Marines are the best single unit in the game and it's not even close.
Oh man oliveira in game 2, like fucking marine control on crack
I humbly ask: why did Reynor choose not to go Infestors against Ghosts and their snipe?
I'm a mediocre player, but I see Ghosts and I build Infestors: there must be a reason why Reynor did not go that way, could somebody please explain me?
Thank you in advance
emp out range everything infestor does. Only option is to do it like dark, burrow neural and emp the ghosts themselves when the terran is not looking. But even dark rarely pulls that one successfully
Reynor thinks that because he's a bit faster than other pros he can bludgeon them to death by trying to stress their multi-tasking instead of playing a better strategy. Serral would win from the same position 9 out of 10 times, same with Rogue
@@chengcao418 Thank you
Its a double edge sword, if you get EMP on a cluster of your infestors its basically over. Or if you fungal or counter EMP with neural you also basically win. I think Reynor took Oliveira too lightly and went for the constant ling bane pressure. Most other Terran or even Time in the past would have cracked under such pressure, but some how he's evolved into Oliveira and is playing some of the sharpest and highest level of sc2 in his life. Even Reynor's continuous ling drops in the main, lings runby with burrow and ling bane pressure from the front couldn't crack Oliveira. Gotta give it to him, its a well deserved win. Dude even went on to beat her0 and Maru in convincing fashion, goes to show its not a fluke.
I hope he continues to play like a mad man and take every chance he sees in the future. If he goes back to his old Time self, playing passive and giving too much respect to his opponents i'd be disappointed.
@@skychaos87 Thank you as well for the reply.
To clarify: I also think Oliveira's win was really deserved, hats off to him (and I'm ITA, so seeing Reynor lose hurts me, but I acknowledge every great Oliveira skill)!
I just couldn't understand the lack of Infestors from Reynor's side, and your replies are helping me to understand :)
看得我熱血沸騰
What a comeback!
the best game ever
24:55
When Harstem happens you know something is wrong and possibly beyond fix.
time/oliveira wasn't on my radar before but he is now
This is his last show though. He's retiring after this.
@@JSs586 maybe not after this
@@JSs586 retire when he is only 22? His time is way too far, he can become the GoaT dethroning serral
@@alucardlord9032 Maybe it has to do with SC2 not longer being a thing in China from now on. Blizzard lost his contract with NetEase so no more Blizzard games for chinese people, at least in the close future.
@@ACSMEX well who cares about chinese server, hes still playing and competing so i think it doesnt really matter
And for now, being the champion of the largest tournament a year? I think everyone wants him now
Suggestion. Why not "Olly" for short? Oliveriera is just a mouthful.
I didn't know who it was at first. With that name, I thought he was from Italy.
Camera really doesn't like showing Oliveira's spinning stat card, keeps training on Reynor's. 😂
who was the announcers? they players?
oliveras army at the end of game 4 is a terrans dream army