Zeroing The AK
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In this video I discuss how the iron sights on the AK family series of weapons work and how to zero them, regardless of if your AK is an AKM, an AK74 or something else entirely.
We all know why this video was made LOL. Good ole field adjustable AK irons.
They didnt get the memo. The kid who openly cheats at shooting comps and dad runs a literal cult said you cant zero ak irons.
The interwebs in it's infinite memeory will always remember.
I'm out of the loop, what is this referencing?
@@Omnomnomabom douche nozzle at T-Rex ran his mouth about the AK being impossible to zero, and had instant regret.
@@OmnomnomabomBecause dinosaurs don't know how to zero an AK.
I wish this video had been around 15+ years ago when I bought my first AK pattern rifle. Thank you! :)
Which one did you buy and did you keep it
The 7.62x39 AKM leaf sight is calibrated for 7.9 gram (122 grains) bullet flying 715 m/s (2346 ft/s).
To check if your ammo is compatible with the leaf, shoot 4+ shot groups with every leaf setting at 100 m (109.4 yards) with the same point of aim. Measure the distance from point of aim to average point of impact of every group. It should be as follows:
1 - 0 cm, 2 - 10 cm (3.9 in), 3/П - 25 cm (9.8 in), 4 - 44 cm (17.3 in), 5 - 68 cm (26.8 in)
To have better idea about the trajectory google "таблица превышений акм" (table of elevations above sights line for akm)
The 5.45 AK-74 leaf sight is calibrated for 3.4 gram (54.5 grains) bullet flying 900 m/s (2953 ft/s).
1 - 0 cm, 2 - 5 cm (1.97 in), 3 - 13 cm (5.1 in), 4/П - 24 cm (9.45 in), 5 - 37 cm (14.6 in)
Nice
Whatttttttt?
@@1s1k97 If your ammo is close enough to the one that the leaf was calibrated for, with 7,62x39 AKM for torso sized target you set the leaf on 3 and you can hit it at any distance from 0 to 300 meters (328 yd) with belt buckle point of aim, because point of impact will not get higher than 31 cm (12.2") above point of aim.
For head sized target you can set the leaf on 2 and hit it at any distance from 0 to 200 meters (219 yd) with chin/mouth point of aim because trajectory doesnt go higher than 10 cm (3.9") above point of aim.
"Table of elevations" (google "таблица превышений акм") state how high the POI will be above POA at certain distance on certain leaf setting.
If you shoot groups at 100m with different leaf settings and have the same elevations above POA as stated in the table, your ammo is compatible with the leaf and you can choose a leaf setting for given target size and hit it reliably.
This video explains things well and clearly.
Thanks Karl for explaining the little intricansies for zeroing this type of carbine.
Thanks, Karl. Like the French, the Soviets approach the task a bit differently than Americans or Brits do. Solid info.
Thanks for these zeroing videos Karl... the A2 and now the AK style... keep it going
This couldn't come at a better time. I just got done shooting my AK with a buddy of mine last week, and I noticed it was shooting WAY too high! Thanks for this video, man!👍
Good tool. Bought one after watching Rob's AK zeroing video on AKOU. Got a 1.75 inch group with irons at 100 meters with my Vepr aka "The Beast" using lacquered Brown Bear ammo👍
Awesome video Karl. Thank you Sir for your hard work and time.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Bought a Zastava Zpap a couple years ago. I've found that one zeroed properly the distance settings on the rear sight are quite good. My range only goes to 400m, but it to that the sight is dead on.
Common T-Rex arms L
We all know why this video was made 🤣
Who ?
Brandon Herrera?
@@skunclep1938 Lucas botkin from t-rex arms made himselfvlook like an idiot on twitter
@@rebralhunter6069What did he say? I haven't been keeping up with the news
I've always been fascinated by the AK platform. Amazing upload.
Really helpful. I have both an AR and AK platform rifle. Besides function function and maintenance, I don't know too much. Looks like I might do some adjustment work this weekend.
Smart man buying both of the most common rifles
it's a 2 step process
1) zero the AK
2) drink beer
You have the steps backward
Vodka
Mostly correct. In the old Soviet Union it was:
1) Drink industrial alcohol.
2) When if vision returns, adjust sights.
3) Drink more industrial alcohol.
@@lightweight1974 in old Soviet Union industrial strength alcohol drinks you
@@rslover65this guy AKs
Rob Ski also has some good videos on AK zeroing which echo's what Karl is talking about. I ended up buying the AK sight in target that rob used. Makes the process idiot proof when I was new to the platform. great video!!
Very helpful, thank you for this tutorial.
Glad it was helpful!
Short and sweet to the point, thanks
Speaking to the M16/M4/AR-15's elevation zero, it may require a tool but I've never done it with anything other than a bullet tip, a nail, or the screwdriver of a multitool. (I keep saying I'll buy the actual adjustment tool and I keep not doing it.)
Also I feel like I don't want to know who said the AK isn't able to be zeroed for windage.
TRex arms
8:13 on 7.62 AKs P position works from 0-300 meters, on AK74- 0-400. Because the direct show range ( if I can translate «дальность прямого выстрела» term this way) for AKM is 350 and for AK74 is 440.
I zeroed my Zastava m70 a few years ago, then tried shooting it at 300yd recently. Even though it was a Century Arms import, the zero hadn't changed a bit. I set the rear sight to "3" and had to aim slightly under the target (because 300yd =/= 300m). It's a very robust design and is perfectly usable if you know how to use it
dont user =/=, it is properly !=
at least in most coding languages, maybe different for engineering
Nice presentation. Job well done. I have my AKMS zeroed at 100m cutting the target in half. To me it helps with the aiming being definitive, but that is me.
I fully understand the "deal with it" on the sight alignment being so far off. However, if it is THAT far off I'd consider getting that barrel re-timed or if the barrel is mounted properly then get the rear sight fixed. I didn't get a good look at how the rear sight sits in the sight base but in many cases a wee bit of filling on one of the pins engaging the sight base to adjust the left/right cant is all you need. There is a video or two here on YT showing the procedure. Simple stuff. Cheers.
Thanks for breaking this down, bussin.
Yeah I did this recently with a WASR10 and my front sight ended up all the way to the left as well. I also got a PSA GF3 AK and it was zeroed right out of the box which was nice. I wish I would've just got an AK74 though, the 5.45 cartridge really was quite a major upgrade.
Whenever I fire my AKMs I remember "oh yeah this is basically a WW2 gun" because it feels like any other semi auto WW2 gun with maybe a little less recoil.
I like AKs but the AR is dramatically better.
Mr. Skinny Jeans is likely enraged at this video.
EDIT: Also, if I recall correctly, the Soviet manual for the AKM and AK-74 say that the battle sight setting corresponds to 330 meters and 440 meters respectively, when aiming at the belt line of an enemy,
But of an unwarranted comment... Not everybody is perfect and frankly this is not common knowledge.
The manual seem to be wrong. Russian military armorer, and some other competent dude separately used calipers to measure distance from the bottom of reciever to the rear sight notch, and its identical on 3/П for akm and 4/П for ak-74. They checked it with shooting too.
@@tiortedrootskyyes, but 5.45 has a much flatter trajectory, so even with the same rear sight base, it has a farther battlesight zero due to less bullet drop
@@porpoision in the manual they needed to write that "П=400m, which roughly fits the 440m distance of straight shot for torso sized target". Which is true.
But they end up writing "П=440m, the distance of straight shot for torso sized target which roughly fits leaf setting "4". Which is not true, as for the calipers measurements.
The slant muzzle brake does shit the windage and elevation as I found out when I removed one from a WASR. It was removed because it was loose fitting and replaced with something else. I put a ultimak with red dot and sight the gun with that.
EVERYBODY has an overlord. Mine is Karl. We have a little shrine in our house, I zero all my kitchen appliances like he does his AKs and I even wear his haircut. (the last statement is TRUE, but by accident, and more roughly)
Best video I've seen so far on the whole zeroing process.
One full turn of the front sight is approximately 8 minutes of angle of elevation. One full turn of the sight tool on the windage drum is approximately 6 minutes of angle of windage. Trick with the windage is knowing when it actually started moving. Also shorter or longer barrels (krink vs SKS) will vary slightly.
I'd love to put an AKM rear sight ladder on an RPK (or vice versa), zero it for 100m, and then see just how big a difference the longer barrel makes
Great video, Karl. Would you be willing to do a video covering the practical advantages of the Kalashnikov platform, the stuff that someone looking for a practical/serious use rifle would consider? It's not something I have much exposure to in the USA, my exposure and experience is with the AR platform.
Simple manual of arms. But if you are already trained on the AR, stick with your training. Or learn a new skill.
Real AKs run well in austere conditions. As do a few other rifles, like the G3. Some ARs hold up well under similar conditions.
The AK is more available outside the US, so is a good choice for those living outside the US. This is regionally dependent. But spare parts and institutional knowledge is greater outside the US.
Some AKs can fold their stock. This may or may not be important to you. It's important to many people living in conflict zones.
In my experience, 7.62 kills things better (faster, harder) than 5.56 or 5.45, though the latter 2 both work. 12ga slugs work really good. 155mm is best.
The AK can stand up better to being used as a hand to hand weapon than the AR. Real AKs can.
The AK has better longevity and durability than the M16/M4 family. But that is a fact few would live long enough to take advantage of. You don't notice until after tens of thousands of rounds.
Those are the advantages of the AK I know of. I like the AK best. I am sad I no longer have one.
I just bought a unused Mak90 and this will really help me out.
Mind you I dont go looking for AK videos, but this is the first time I see the AK cleaning kit hah.
I'm sure also a one point someone has used the bolt carrier with the punch in the kit to help zero the windage before. lol
Great info on the "cleaning kit". I got one with my saiga but i had no clue what it was for.
I’d love to see a video experimenting with zeroing optics on AKs.
Great info. I'll remember that when I get my SKS put back together.
AK-74 with russian military ammo (3.4 grams 900m/s, 54.5 grains 2953 ft/s ) can be zeroed at 20 m (21.9 yards) on leaf setting 3 (300 m, 328 yards). Point of aim = point of impact. This way the leaf is functional.
This is a nicely clear and informative video. Thank you
I love my 5.56 Izhmash Saiga
I have that tool, thanks for showing how to use it. My front site post looks like yours lol. I have a Polish AKM all matching built by JRA. Happy New Year.
I miss seeing your videos! Glad to see this one though, as my AK's will accept continuing education on them!
I post 1-3 videos per week, I bet TH-cam isn't showing them to you unless you specifically look - I'm pretty much shadowbanned :(. Glad you're here!
I have an AK where the windage drum was drilled and tapped off center 😂, but it worked out perfect because after I zeroed it the front sight post is pretty much dead center lol otherwise it would be exactly like your 74
I’ll definitely be using this to sight in my Zastava M70 AKM. Thanks.
Im glad I had the same idea of having the ak74 zero'd like the 556 50-200!
I like the 36-300. For 100 to 200 yards, aim at belt buckle and at 300 yards it hits right where you’re aiming
FIRST, I really enjoyed seeing the classic wood furniture!
Thanks for the refresher; taking off optics and practicing with irons can enhance one's skill with optics, PLUS being a nice change of pace!
**Thankfully, the front sight on my WASR stayed pretty much centered when it was zeroed--even though it was considered garbage tier when built in the early 2010's.
Good explanation of setting zero. The left right sight cant is annoying. For those of us that like to build our AK s from parts, carefully aligned sights during assembly really helps keep that windage zero nice and centered.
excellent explanation, thank you
You are welcome!
Useful video. Appreciate the info on the Magnamatic tool.
Thank you so so much for this video. I love you guys!
When I got my first AK I adjusted the front sight on the range by hitting it with a rock. it worked.
Kinetic impulse FTW.
I've done it with a tiny tack hammer. Later I made a small C-clamp with a cutout with a hacksaw, on the fixed side of the clamp.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem
Good practical advise.
Thanks for the primer.
I center the front sight post in the center of the front sight assembly and just put RPK windage adjustable rear sights on my AKs. I get good accuracy.
I don't have anything AK platform...yet, still good to have solid tutorials for stuff.
Great video! Extremely informative 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
The front sight post in my type 56s was so tight that the tool in the cleaning kit bent when adjusting elevation. :'D The tool in the chinese gun is only a peace of sheet metal though... The one in this video looks much more robust.
Nice backyard, like the antler/skull next to the tree. A partially buried wagon wheel would be cool. Maybe an old row boat?
I thought you mighta been rockin' teddy fresh there, Karl, but it looks like a lot of people make them. Regardless, I dig it!
Thanks Karl! I gotta stop putting off adding an AK to my collection.
Yup, been there done that....didn't have to mess with elevation though - so interesting to see how it should be done !
Thank you sir, always complete and calm advice.
Thanks Karl!
Dino Nuggie Boi gonna accuse you of being from the Moon with space age tech like this :*3
Hi Karl! Good to see you!
Thanks, very informative.
This stuff is super helpful
this was, indeed, very interesting!
😎👍👍 this was an amazing and eye opening video. Much respect to you Karl!
I appreciate that!
really interesting. thank you
I need to check my SKS's zero. If you live in New Jersey the Military Collectors Club is having a Shoot Nov 11th Cherry Ridge range. You are using period correct firearms in events named after American Marine Corps battles. I'm shooting my M16A4 clone in "Fallujah" & my SKS in "Hue City". B8 targets at 100 meters.
damn if only my Trex arms were big enough to actually do this.
Lovely video. Minimum amount of talking...kept the camera pointed directly at the sights. Thank you.
I got one of those ak front sight tools like yours but mine goes even further with adjustable screws so that it can work for pretty much anything. I used it for my Swedish Mauser that was previously hitting to the left and it was annoying. Now it shoots straight
Excellent
Still waiting for round two of an ak74 mud test. I am interested to see how it does if you clean the bigger rocks off like you did the the m4 test. Also a quick water clean would be interesting
Could you please teach us how to deal with a standard AK sling?
Very helpful
Comment for the algorithm. Thanks Karl
I just cheat and use an optic. With the ammo I shoot, I can zero at 25 yards and that zero also coincides with ~300 yards +/- a few inches. I have to hold low at 100 and 200 yards to get center mass impacts. This works for me as I generally shoot longer distances and being able to use the Eotech reticle for ranging at 400 and 500 yards is seamless.
Send this to Lucas
Thanks man
Thanks for the shortcut. Range days shouldn't "make my brain hurt"! (Monty Python). 😂
8:01 "battlestate" ;)
400m~ hit is for AK-74, AKM battle zero is ~300m.
Speaking of AK's, can you do another video on the PBS-1? I really liked that video.
Lmaooooo Trex arms posting their Ls online as usual
20 years in the army never seen a tool for sights
Always used a nail
I'm curious if maybe AK's have the seemingly inherent "bent barrel" found on the Chinese Type 81's, after seeing how offset your front sight was on your ak74?
Please do the RIBZ zero on a 16” M4 please. There’s a lot of conflicting information on TH-cam about that particular zero
Simple and clean. Excellent video. Now dab on them
My front sight drum on my WASR is pretty much siezed up. I've adjusted it in the past, but it needs readjustment and the magna tool isn't working, it slips off when I torque it before the drum budges.
Soak it in kroil and break it free with a punch and hammer.
@@InrangeTv Thank you Komrade
AKs are a great system, but definitely not designed for optics. Good luck getting a cheek weld with an optic above the irons. Which, of course, is where your eye was defined to be level.
Chin weld works just fine
The AK front sight is a "move it where it goes" sight so to speak...😉
How many people used windage in combat I wonder? Not complaining, sounds pretty nifty for shooting down range, it's just that it sounds overengineered for some Soviet grunt type
Love the video thank you for all the hard work the.
Easiest.
Why I've seen anybody set up an a aksite?
No idea :p
Far Easier then I've ever had it explained to me.
Thanks.
Ak's are one of the most misconstrued platforms of all time.
Downloaded!
Just dial it to max you’re good it makes the gun shoot harder😊
My AK rear sight has the battle sight position, a zero position then 50m and 100m and up...its a PSA AK.
remember FORS:
Front Opposite
Rear Same