I would love see you guys discuss music schools and whether or not it's necessary for upcoming producers/artists/engineers. What did you learn in school and what did you already know going into school. It can be very expensive so I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.
I've been to a music school for 4 years from my 20. There is nothing you can't learn on TH-cam technically. But the people I met there inspired me a lot and 3 of them are stil good friends I see weekly. Stil making music and stil chilling. 15 years now
Every person I know who paid tens of thousands to go to FSU or a handful of other expensive music schools.. they all recommend not going. Some of the connections are great, the facilities are incredible, but what you learn from these schools can pretty easily be taught working at a studio or working with other producers, engineer, artists, etc. Like college business classes, you can learn so much more with real life experiences vs hypothetical classroom experiments. And this is coming from people that have credits ranging from Kendrick, Travis Scott, SZA, Juice Wrld, Usher, Nav, Trippie Redd, you name it..
Austin community college and other community colleges has very good programs in audio engineering for around $300-400 a class and in their cases I think the price is worth the payout and just opportunities with others and connections but also with the school’s supplies that u would never be able to afford on your own
@teesandzz73 negative. I own the biggest studio in my area. I'm from poverty, living better now, all my interns graduated with 4 to 5 years and all learn from me. School can't teach you art.
If we're solely talking in terms of success and how huge it was for an extended period, Katy Perry's Teenage Dream record is that album, especially if we include the reissue. 8 singles. 6 went number 1 and the other two hit number 2 and number 3. And this was still when digital sales and radio were most of what determined chart positioning, so this was constant and sustained success over that 3 or 4 year period. Katy Perry won't be respected as an influential or innovative artist, but that album deserves all the recognition and credit for the success it achieved.
0:42 I 100% agree!!! I've been sayin' this for years now. The 24k Magic Album shaped me as a musician and is the reason I ever thought about making music.
Input conversion is really good on most interfaces. It’s the digital to analog converter you have to worry about lacking. To hear everything your doing and have.
How would you rank Apollo's? I have a solo and use the API pre amp/ channel strip. Mainly because it has a built in gate to help with room and out side noise.
Maaaaaaannnnn. As hard as that waiting to exhale soundtrack is one year prior The Above The Rim Soundtrack set the gold standard for movie soundtracks! lol
Devvon is technically right about that thing with 192kHz and 44.1kHz. But if we leave the theory aside, practically the human ears dont need that amount of frequencies. We actually only would need a recording of 40kHz. But according to the issue of cutting the music from 20kHz to above with a brick wall, sony decided to use a transition flied of 2.050kHz (which will blend the signal until 22.050kHz) and thats why the industry standard is set to 44.1kHz. Pls correct me if Im wrong
I think what's always been the gap between cheap audio equipment and expensive ones is the time it takes to achieve your goal and the amount of work you gotta put into it. So I would wanna say that a cheap(but pretty decent) converter can get the job done just as much as a more expensive one. More work may have to get done under the hood to achieve a great sounding record. But because preamps control what's going in, that's highly important. Then again, cheap interfaces with not as good preamps in them are feasible too. lol Btw Devvon, I saw your video on how you saturate your final mix through your converters. I was wondering, would you do this step before or after applying a plugin such as the God Particle on your mix bus?
Dev you got to get the Avid Carbon if you love the Mbox sound your going to fall in Love with the Carbon, not only the sound but using the DSP drives instead of your computers CPU power shit flow so much smoother in my session you mix a lot of Vocal and your a freaking beast in your mixes you definitely need to bless your self with one it’s ok to treat your self sometimes lol, im gracefully blessed with the Carbon, it’s paired with my Audioscape LA2A and with the new Adam A77H as my monitor set up Lord Jesus is the best money I have invested my mixes are Glorious 😂 do it, I would like to link up one day I wanna send you some of my sessions I’m working on I would like to hear your opinion 🙏
The waiting to exhale soundtrack that was the one cd I never listened to because of the front cover of the album and I listened to every cd my moms bought I might need to pull that up
HELLO CAN ANYONE HELP ME OUT HERE , WILL LUV TO BUY DEVVON TEMPLATE BUT NEEDED THE TEMPLATE THAT CONTAINS THE DRUM BUS, INSTRUMENT BUSS ND THE VOCAL BUSS
Never seen prince play a saxophone or a trumpet or a violin or a clarinet or a flute or a tuba or a cello or an oboe. "Every instrument known to man"? Are you delusional or misinformed or both?
Yo, Waiting to Exhale is dope, but still The Bodyguard Soundtrack is thee soundtrack! True I was like 1 or something when it came out but everyone played it and knows it💯
Drake Marvin’s room is just too slept on when talking about “ albums of all time “ , n if y’all don’t know … please go listen to Tone Stith “ Can We Talk “ that’s probably the closest thing to micheal Jackson to me ! N on the songwriter stand point…. Never mention it without saying “ Eric Bellinger “‘
I would love see you guys discuss music schools and whether or not it's necessary for upcoming producers/artists/engineers. What did you learn in school and what did you already know going into school. It can be very expensive so I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.
I've been to a music school for 4 years from my 20. There is nothing you can't learn on TH-cam technically. But the people I met there inspired me a lot and 3 of them are stil good friends I see weekly. Stil making music and stil chilling. 15 years now
Every person I know who paid tens of thousands to go to FSU or a handful of other expensive music schools.. they all recommend not going. Some of the connections are great, the facilities are incredible, but what you learn from these schools can pretty easily be taught working at a studio or working with other producers, engineer, artists, etc.
Like college business classes, you can learn so much more with real life experiences vs hypothetical classroom experiments. And this is coming from people that have credits ranging from Kendrick, Travis Scott, SZA, Juice Wrld, Usher, Nav, Trippie Redd, you name it..
Absolutely not. Art is best self taught. And breaking rules of mixing helps develop new styles
Austin community college and other community colleges has very good programs in audio engineering for around $300-400 a class and in their cases I think the price is worth the payout and just opportunities with others and connections but also with the school’s supplies that u would never be able to afford on your own
@teesandzz73 negative. I own the biggest studio in my area. I'm from poverty, living better now, all my interns graduated with 4 to 5 years and all learn from me. School can't teach you art.
If we're solely talking in terms of success and how huge it was for an extended period, Katy Perry's Teenage Dream record is that album, especially if we include the reissue. 8 singles. 6 went number 1 and the other two hit number 2 and number 3. And this was still when digital sales and radio were most of what determined chart positioning, so this was constant and sustained success over that 3 or 4 year period. Katy Perry won't be respected as an influential or innovative artist, but that album deserves all the recognition and credit for the success it achieved.
0:42 I 100% agree!!! I've been sayin' this for years now. The 24k Magic Album shaped me as a musician and is the reason I ever thought about making music.
2:20 Ye bro LJ you know your shit. Literally same.
Input conversion is really good on most interfaces. It’s the digital to analog converter you have to worry about lacking. To hear everything your doing and have.
Miguel “Kaleidoscope dream” whole album was top tier beginning to end
How would you rank Apollo's? I have a solo and use the API pre amp/ channel strip. Mainly because it has a built in gate to help with room and out side noise.
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Maaaaaaannnnn. As hard as that waiting to exhale soundtrack is one year prior The Above The Rim Soundtrack set the gold standard for movie soundtracks! lol
Michael Jackson’s Dangerous album had one of the best mixes I ever heard back in the day 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Devvon is technically right about that thing with 192kHz and 44.1kHz. But if we leave the theory aside, practically the human ears dont need that amount of frequencies. We actually only would need a recording of 40kHz. But according to the issue of cutting the music from 20kHz to above with a brick wall, sony decided to use a transition flied of 2.050kHz (which will blend the signal until 22.050kHz) and thats why the industry standard is set to 44.1kHz.
Pls correct me if Im wrong
I think what's always been the gap between cheap audio equipment and expensive ones is the time it takes to achieve your goal and the amount of work you gotta put into it. So I would wanna say that a cheap(but pretty decent) converter can get the job done just as much as a more expensive one. More work may have to get done under the hood to achieve a great sounding record. But because preamps control what's going in, that's highly important. Then again, cheap interfaces with not as good preamps in them are feasible too. lol
Btw Devvon, I saw your video on how you saturate your final mix through your converters. I was wondering, would you do this step before or after applying a plugin such as the God Particle on your mix bus?
Dev you got to get the Avid Carbon if you love the Mbox sound your going to fall in Love with the Carbon, not only the sound but using the DSP drives instead of your computers CPU power shit flow so much smoother in my session you mix a lot of Vocal and your a freaking beast in your mixes you definitely need to bless your self with one it’s ok to treat your self sometimes lol, im gracefully blessed with the Carbon, it’s paired with my Audioscape LA2A and with the new Adam A77H as my monitor set up Lord Jesus is the best money I have invested my mixes are Glorious 😂 do it, I would like to link up one day I wanna send you some of my sessions I’m working on I would like to hear your opinion 🙏
😂😂Devvon wanted to say Preamps but just couldn’t and ended up arguing both ends. Great conversation
Which is seriously more important dac or preamp?
The waiting to exhale soundtrack that was the one cd I never listened to because of the front cover of the album and I listened to every cd my moms bought I might need to pull that up
YOU GUYS PUSH tRUE CULtURE FORWARD!!! LOVE!!!
Dope as always! Y'all should do one about landr and e-master. Are they legit? Is the AI technology competing with professional mastering engineers?
I think you should follow this up using Something from Behringer, M Box & something from Apogee or UA!
So what are y’alls favorite converters? Do you think the apollo twin x has a decent one?
I think it does
Twin X is good Apogee has amazing converters
Bruno Mars is too good for us. We don’t deserve him. 😂
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HELLO CAN ANYONE HELP ME OUT HERE , WILL LUV TO BUY DEVVON TEMPLATE BUT NEEDED THE TEMPLATE THAT CONTAINS THE DRUM BUS, INSTRUMENT BUSS ND THE VOCAL BUSS
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Prince is the most musically inclined person to ever touch the record industry
Stevie Wonder was just as inclined
@@shakirsimssr.2285 cool story but prince played damn near every instrument known to man so I can't agree with that
Never seen prince play a saxophone or a trumpet or a violin or a clarinet or a flute or a tuba or a cello or an oboe. "Every instrument known to man"? Are you delusional or misinformed or both?
@@stevefrizelli you left out the "damn near" part you clown... FOH
I got a vote for Prince too. And don't forget R.Kelly, artist -wise
Always a good day when da nerds drop 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Umm... let's not forget "Get Rich Or Die Tryin" by 50 Cent
Yo, Waiting to Exhale is dope, but still The Bodyguard Soundtrack is thee soundtrack! True I was like 1 or something when it came out but everyone played it and knows it💯
Bodyguard ain't fuckin with Waiting to exhale bruh
Technically focusrite has really good clean preamps and not that good converters.
Drake Marvin’s room is just too slept on when talking about “ albums of all time “ , n if y’all don’t know … please go listen to Tone Stith “ Can We Talk “ that’s probably the closest thing to micheal Jackson to me ! N on the songwriter stand point…. Never mention it without saying “ Eric Bellinger “‘
love theseeee
Y’all ain’t mention the God Particle not once… y’all okay? 💀
Remember.. Johnny Gill was solo before he joined new edition!
Mad y’all didn’t mention avant- as one of the greatest rnb writers but mentioned Ryan Leslie
Jon Bellion is one of my favorite songwriters today
And don’t mention writing music and artistry without saying “ r Kelly “ either
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I really missed this episode? Ryan Leslie really could’ve been there 😂
Regardless of what you think of the man, you can't mention R&B without Kells
Dolby-Atmos, thanks.
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In 10 years we gone look back at Chris browns “ breezy “ album and “ royalty “ .. “ indigo “ … and be mad why we didnt give him his credit
Ready for this?
Bruno mars is Michael Jackson’s son.
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Y’all gon talk about great songwriters and not bring up Charlie Puth????
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R KELLY A GOOD WRITER TOO
Quick question
What do think about UAD Volt 476p
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After Hours is the best album since Thriller easy. Too many styles & done too flawlessly
Bruno def one of the greatest of all time
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The wave man is ganna kill ya if you don’t step it up from this 20 min podcast..
Adele had a great album run also
My opinion:
19 = Adele 1.0
21 = Adele 1.1
25 = Adele 1.2
30 = Adele 1.3
I'd take a great Converter anyday
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LETTTSSSSS GOOOOOOO
Yo, honestly podcast is short for me. I'd listen to you for an hour at least
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Purple Rain
My Dark Twisted Fantasy
Michael Jackson and Prince Superbowls are NOT debatable😂
Protools gang
Tame Impala Currents
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Bruno mars tho 🙃 :59
Don’t ever have a great songwriter convo and not mention Ashley Gorley
who is that
Dope song writer I say r Kelly
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Graduation bro!……….come on now…..
Prince??? Michael prince beyonce
Bruno Mars is cool. But your disrespectful bruh. Prince and Marvin rolling over in they grave. And if Stevie could see you, he would snuff you.
The Weeknd is better than Bruno Mars