Right tbh tho even at their level of success they could probs afford the payment plan on most outboard gear. Most of my gear was bought via payment plans, I had 2-3 going at specific times of the month so it wasn’t too crazy to juggle. Not saying I’m buying super nice gear but the payment plans were for sure a lifesaver.
The accuracy of the a to d conversion is extremely important because the difference between any given analog signal can vary so drastically, whereas the digital to analog conversion is largely going to be extremely similar converting the binary information from a windows machine, or a mac from one song to the next.
A friend of mine told me that she was using that tiny Shure interface for voice overs, and I laughed at her until I heard her recordings. I was blown away at how CLEAN it sounded.
Watching this episode is a perfect display why just cause something is “better” or “expensive” doesn’t mean it’s for everyone L Jean doesn’t care to learn his MT48 so he won’t have the chance to really understand what’s so good about it, a few years back I had a client give me a 30,000 budget to build him a project studio I set him up with a AVID CARBON , CL1B, AVID S3, BAE 1073, U87 and a bunch more stuff and after setting him up what I realized was how much you have to factor in what the EASE of USE should be because he wasn’t an experienced engineer he was just a rapper that wanted to be able to record at the best possible level now I was able to set him up but the learning curve took a lot because it was to advance for his expertise if I could go back I would of gotten more simple gear Btw I got 5K worth of gear for myself out the budget which was nice of the artist because I was happy doing it for free
I also keep my tracking chain simple through my UA interface...which I believe gives me and/or any engineer an easy job of mixing them later on.....since I'm not a gatekeeper....I use the UA AVALON in the Unison/Mic Pre slot...then in the insert chain...I use the UA SSL E (where I do minimal tweaking and adjust the gate and expander lightly).... then the NEVE 88RS for its warmth and saturation....then the C-VOX ....lastly...the AUTOTUNE PRO if it calls for it.....✌✌ and that's my tracking print chain✌✌....
LJ try the RME Baby Face Pro. I think it’s the best of both worlds for you. I just switched from Apollo Twin to the Babyface. Workflow and sound transformed. Not to mention, the RME has the best drivers, so you never have to worry about software bugs.
I was looking into the RME for a minute but the price jump is crazy, I've seen that interface go for like 700 and now it's going for like 1000-1200 and at that ballpark I'd rather shell out a bit more and just go with the MT48
8:48 feel you ppl are gonna come after me for this but recording in my lynx aura is not it Apollo all day for recording with my preamp and compressor. It has the vibe
LJ and Dev raised a great point about Neumann's and Uad's marketing comparison. Had me going "hmmm...". I guess Neumann depend solely on their popularity and past success.
The sonible stuff is so slept on right now. We can’t fight ai. It should be embraced when it’s good. And smart comp and smart eq are SO well thought out. Absolutely off the charts. Smart eq has grouping. You can set presets to get a starting sound… but sonible had the foresight to allow for complete control after the ai processes. It’s just a tool. And it’s a phenomenal tool! Smart comp as well which allows customization and saturation and color. Okay, that’s my ad lol Sonible is gas ⛽️
the mt48 it’s solid, make sure you’re on latest firmaware. My web app and remote app works seamlessly with the screen on the interface. Before it was buggy, now it’s perfect.
Earlier today, I was watching the Julian Krause review of the new “Mark 2” SSL 2 and 2+ and I was about to send you guys the link but then I stopped myself because I was like 🤨“They don’t wanna see this”. Now a few hours later you guys are talking about the SSL 2 and 2+ again. I own the big brother of the two, the SSL 12 an absolutely love it🔥. It looks like the Mark 2 versions are now up to specs with the SSL 12. You guys should watch his review and test out the Mark two versions and tell us what you think. He has a review chart of about 30 to 40 interfaces with all the specs🧐… the man ain’t playin’.
I'm in the same spot with the MT 48 and Apollo - I wish these interfaces had 1 single button that would mute the mic and headphones while engaging the speakers for playback.
@@DeeBeEatin bro i paid like 600$ for the 14 channel or whatever motu. I forget the exact model but it literally didnt work at all for me. It requires some random ridiculously outdated software to even run it. I contacted support multiple times and they literally offered no help or care. I sold mine on ebay. Arguably the most frustrating purchase ive ever made. Maybe on mac os it runs better but that shouldnt matter.
@JosephPembroke Dude! My MOTU M2 is running flawless with amazing converter quality! It's got the same ESS Sabre 32 Audio Converters as the UAD Gen 2 Apollo Audio Interfaces!
More important then conversion is the talent then the room then the microphone then the preamp Then conversion would be last in the D/A stage from most important to least ROOM ACOUSTICS > EARS > MONITORS > CONVERSION AGAIN LAST
Man I got the rosetta compressor VIP gifted from you Devvon because of a stream and holy shi is that amazing, especially the hype saturation. I would LOVE to try that HMD Rosetta EQ!✨ @itsanasmusic
Which one? I sold my Antelope audio Zen Q because I hated everything about it. First and foremost, horrible headphone quality through my Audeze CDX’s, atrocious graphical user interface and the routing…forget about it, it was a nightmare. The user experience was not user-friendly at all. I sold it and got the Solid State Logic SSL 12 which comes with the 360 Software and all its other goodies and straight up smokes the Antelope Audio in all the categories I listed above and then some…It’s wasn’t even close and the most important thing the SSL 12 and now the new MarkII SSL 2 and 2+ work with a whole range of low impedance & high impedance headphones (which is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT) and was my problem when it came to sound quality. I always recommend people to check out the video by Julian Krause on reviewing a sh!t ton of audio interfaces. He has a spec chart comparing them with one another. I would recommend everybody to watch this video before buying a pair of headphones or an audio interface, you could be listening to a crappy version of what you’re producing and not even know it. I knew something was wrong, but couldn’t put my finger on it until after watching his video. Now, when you get into the high end Antelope audio interfaces from everything I’ve seen and heard, those are a complete different animal but from my experience, I still wouldn’t purchase one, even if I had the money because of my past experience with them. The routing is still not user-friendly,, even in those high end models.✌🏾
Hey I got that same mic stand Devon got and the cable stopped working on mine had to get another cable the old oone is hanging out like yours lol am not a fan of that frameworks stand not sure why it stop working barley use it and the price for it doesnt justify the quality.
Presonus Drivers have a wider sound. I took 1 song on Reaper and rendered it with Audient Drivers and then the Presonus Universal Drivers. It totally chaned the way the songs sounded. Edit: Same settings on everything Edit 1: Same room temperature, same lunar cycle, same led colors, etc...
Depends on your routing . route and empty aux track to a send and load effects on there but only recording the blank aux and monitoring through the effect aux
Yo bro I just dropped 300 on the ssl2+ mkii a couple of days ago, after seeing the way y'all talked about the SSL I'm not feeling so sure about my purchase😭should I return it? I need some recommendations
@@th-redattack yeah I ended up keeping it sounds way cleaner than my old rode interface. The high pass button is nice but the 4k button is a little too harsh to use imo. Maybe it would better on something like a sm7b.
Track into nothing other than a noise gate. If you can get it sounding proper dry, than messing around with the wet signals is more forgiving . Trust. Unless your using analog gear and going for a specific sound knowingly. Might as well keep the tracking vocal as dry as possible. Than I just slide it down to the main vocal bus and voila I have my main vocal chain there that I tweak to each individual song a least a lil bit like with la2a to dial in compression for example
nickelodeon shirt has to be highlight of this episode, can we do a shoot out of lowest latency plugins? that would be a dope video to see which plugins have the best quality for lowest latency. @impressno1
Not at all especially if you’re just recording a vocal and a instrument high end conversion only matters once your going out of outboard gear and need your signals to be transparent as possible going in and out Now if you’re mixing in a well treated room with pro level monitors $4000+ have an analog mastering chain then yes the difference in convertors would matter
You guys are the perfect trio I love your channel 😊
😭😭 LJ always be getting on Dev about his wealth. 💀
Right tbh tho even at their level of success they could probs afford the payment plan on most outboard gear. Most of my gear was bought via payment plans, I had 2-3 going at specific times of the month so it wasn’t too crazy to juggle. Not saying I’m buying super nice gear but the payment plans were for sure a lifesaver.
Ohh they deff are !
I soooo look forward to this Podcast every week. #EarlyPodcastGang
Guys, I'm watching you every morning and it helps me produce and mix better lol. Cause you energize me. Keep doing your stuff, don't stop!
The accuracy of the a to d conversion is extremely important because the difference between any given analog signal can vary so drastically, whereas the digital to analog conversion is largely going to be extremely similar converting the binary information from a windows machine, or a mac from one song to the next.
LJ flexed so hard bro. The leslie brathwaite flex is crazy
The Presonus HD8 sounds super clean and transparent and integrates perfect with Studio One
A friend of mine told me that she was using that tiny Shure interface for voice overs, and I laughed at her until I heard her recordings. I was blown away at how CLEAN it sounded.
Watching this episode is a perfect display why just cause something is “better” or “expensive” doesn’t mean it’s for everyone L Jean doesn’t care to learn his MT48 so he won’t have the chance to really understand what’s so good about it, a few years back I had a client give me a 30,000 budget to build him a project studio I set him up with a AVID CARBON , CL1B, AVID S3, BAE 1073, U87 and a bunch more stuff and after setting him up what I realized was how much you have to factor in what the EASE of USE should be because he wasn’t an experienced engineer he was just a rapper that wanted to be able to record at the best possible level now I was able to set him up but the learning curve took a lot because it was to advance for his expertise if I could go back I would of gotten more simple gear
Btw I got 5K worth of gear for myself out the budget which was nice of the artist because I was happy doing it for free
That hoodie LJ is rocking is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 dope!!! And that’s a fly shirt Devvon is rocking!! Love the style 👌🏾💯
When the post notification pops up while on the road
I shall watch (in this case listen💎💎💎
I knew you’d see it asap 😂
I’m a trac-KING 😂 LOL
L Jean bringing a switch to guitar center is crazzzzyyy work 😭😭
GREAT EP enjoyed the talk
That intro was perfect 😂 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
LJ is a character 🤣
Fire episode🔥🔥
14:56 STAMPED! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Nice
I also keep my tracking chain simple through my UA interface...which I believe gives me and/or any engineer an easy job of mixing them later on.....since I'm not a gatekeeper....I use the UA AVALON in the Unison/Mic Pre slot...then in the insert chain...I use the UA SSL E (where I do minimal tweaking and adjust the gate and expander lightly).... then the NEVE 88RS for its warmth and saturation....then the C-VOX ....lastly...the AUTOTUNE PRO if it calls for it.....✌✌ and that's my tracking print chain✌✌....
LJ try the RME Baby Face Pro. I think it’s the best of both worlds for you.
I just switched from Apollo Twin to the Babyface. Workflow and sound transformed. Not to mention, the RME has the best drivers, so you never have to worry about software bugs.
I was looking into the RME for a minute but the price jump is crazy, I've seen that interface go for like 700 and now it's going for like 1000-1200 and at that ballpark I'd rather shell out a bit more and just go with the MT48
I'm on the first ad ( non skippable ) and i already liked 😂😂
LJ IS A BAD BOY HAHS ALWAYS FLYING THE GEMS 🤣🐐
Im not a tracking man im a TRAC KING MAN 😉🔥🔥🫡🫡💯💯
I was like BOOOOOOOO LMAO
This the podcast I ain’t know I needed!! What about reverb though? I gotta have that reverb going when recording!!
LJ "We not rich like you"....Also LJ "Shout-out Leslie" 😂🤯
THANK UUUUUU
Who Leslie waah?
thought i was the only one thinking it lol
Speaking of recording vocals, I just copped the Circle Audio EVO 251. I'm hyped!
I also only ue 3 plugins to record autotune, slate vmr, eq. then i slap on a 2a post recording
8:48 feel you ppl are gonna come after me for this but recording in my lynx aura is not it Apollo all day for recording with my preamp and compressor. It has the vibe
Dope convo!
LJ and Dev raised a great point about Neumann's and Uad's marketing comparison. Had me going "hmmm...". I guess Neumann depend solely on their popularity and past success.
Ain’t gonna lie Decap did more marketing for RME than they did overall 😂
The sonible stuff is so slept on right now. We can’t fight ai. It should be embraced when it’s good. And smart comp and smart eq are SO well thought out. Absolutely off the charts.
Smart eq has grouping. You can set presets to get a starting sound… but sonible had the foresight to allow for complete control after the ai processes. It’s just a tool. And it’s a phenomenal tool! Smart comp as well which allows customization and saturation and color. Okay, that’s my ad lol Sonible is gas ⛽️
Can’t wait for the comparison between neumann mt48 and apollo gen 2 🥵
Same
Yessir
Yall really need to try that Rupert Neve Newton Channel!
the mt48 it’s solid, make sure you’re on latest firmaware. My web app and remote app works seamlessly with the screen on the interface. Before it was buggy, now it’s perfect.
The pocket watching is crazy 😅. Let that man live. Ain’t no such thing as being rich in this world
I appreciate you guys very much. Keep on doing the hard work this is.@Brenton Morris From springfield massachusetts
26:09 that’s the same reason why I only use my lynx aura n for monitoring only
LJ Big Flexin on us! Shout out to Leslie!.. hahahaha!
1:50 feel you always better at home
We need the second sound check episode
Yoooo Courtney EP, let's goooo (we hit the 3 word mark) 😜
Just saying, SSL + Lauten Audio Atlantis sounds CRISP
aye let bro do the sponsors, he ate that
@anemenay_7
I shivered when he said track my vocals in FL
It’s gotten amazing on FL recently
Xvox Pro by Nuro is a vocal game changer
Shout out Leslie 🌠 sheeeesh 😂🔥
Homie court is the best thing I've heard of in a while🤣🤣🤣
Earlier today, I was watching the Julian Krause review of the new “Mark 2” SSL 2 and 2+ and I was about to send you guys the link but then I stopped myself because I was like 🤨“They don’t wanna see this”. Now a few hours later you guys are talking about the SSL 2 and 2+ again.
I own the big brother of the two, the SSL 12 an absolutely love it🔥. It looks like the Mark 2 versions are now up to specs with the SSL 12. You guys should watch his review and test out the Mark two versions and tell us what you think. He has a review chart of about 30 to 40 interfaces with all the specs🧐… the man ain’t playin’.
You guys should try and get FINNEAS up here. From production to engineering to being an artists and writer that would be an amazing episode
Also Sky Jordxn!
I'm in the same spot with the MT 48 and Apollo - I wish these interfaces had 1 single button that would mute the mic and headphones while engaging the speakers for playback.
Thunderbolt daisy chain is the edge so you can have multiple of them without using adat and clocks
Man I just bought a Clarion and now y'all making me want to get an Eden
Bro ur good no need !
Love focusrite.
24:35 I bet a free Rosetta license ya’ll gonna love the gen2 Apollos
I record EXACTLY like LJ
Bro it would be crazy if y'all got Jaycen Joshua on a podcast 🤯
Please do a review on the MOTU M2 Audio Interface.
Its garbage
@JosephPembroke Why would you say that? Please elaborate.
@@DeeBeEatin bro i paid like 600$ for the 14 channel or whatever motu. I forget the exact model but it literally didnt work at all for me. It requires some random ridiculously outdated software to even run it. I contacted support multiple times and they literally offered no help or care. I sold mine on ebay. Arguably the most frustrating purchase ive ever made. Maybe on mac os it runs better but that shouldnt matter.
@JosephPembroke Dude! My MOTU M2 is running flawless with amazing converter quality! It's got the same ESS Sabre 32 Audio Converters as the UAD Gen 2 Apollo Audio Interfaces!
Nah LJ be lowkey breaded 😂😂 humble brags galore
@cpujazz Cool I was starting to shutdown and I see you new video. Excellent, now GO VOTE!!!!!
15:18 kinda hard to vote when NOBODY in their right mind does that 😂😂😂
More important then conversion is the talent then the room then the microphone then the preamp
Then conversion would be last in the D/A stage from most important to least
ROOM ACOUSTICS > EARS > MONITORS > CONVERSION AGAIN LAST
Man I got the rosetta compressor VIP gifted from you Devvon because of a stream and holy shi is that amazing, especially the hype saturation. I would LOVE to try that HMD Rosetta EQ!✨ @itsanasmusic
how is LJ recording with 0 latency? is it in the UAD console or something else, cause the rvox adds about 3ms of latency (recording at 64 buffer size)
Once again. Antelope audio !!!!!! Better interface mad affordable for what you get with it !!
Which one?
I sold my Antelope audio Zen Q because I hated everything about it. First and foremost, horrible headphone quality through my Audeze CDX’s, atrocious graphical user interface and the routing…forget about it, it was a nightmare. The user experience was not user-friendly at all. I sold it and got the Solid State Logic SSL 12 which comes with the 360 Software and all its other goodies and straight up smokes the Antelope Audio in all the categories I listed above and then some…It’s wasn’t even close and the most important thing the SSL 12 and now the new MarkII SSL 2 and 2+ work with a whole range of low impedance & high impedance headphones (which is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT) and was my problem when it came to sound quality.
I always recommend people to check out the video by Julian Krause on reviewing a sh!t ton of audio interfaces. He has a spec chart comparing them with one another. I would recommend everybody to watch this video before buying a pair of headphones or an audio interface, you could be listening to a crappy version of what you’re producing and not even know it. I knew something was wrong, but couldn’t put my finger on it until after watching his video.
Now, when you get into the high end Antelope audio interfaces from everything I’ve seen and heard, those are a complete different animal but from my experience, I still wouldn’t purchase one, even if I had the money because of my past experience with them. The routing is still not user-friendly,, even in those high end models.✌🏾
Courtney was made for ads😂
thats wild hahaha
Great singing also!
Fax them other neegas gotta let bro in the convo
Devon so argumentative 😂 love that guy tho
Courtney intro 🔥🔥
Lovely episode❤. Please what AI do you use for editing your podcast.
Thanks
Hey I got that same mic stand Devon got and the cable stopped working on mine had to get another cable the old oone is hanging out like yours lol am not a fan of that frameworks stand not sure why it stop working barley use it and the price for it doesnt justify the quality.
Presonus Drivers have a wider sound. I took 1 song on Reaper and rendered it with Audient Drivers and then the Presonus Universal Drivers. It totally chaned the way the songs sounded.
Edit: Same settings on everything
Edit 1: Same room temperature, same lunar cycle, same led colors, etc...
When tracking through the plugins are they imprinted in the vocal or through an aux
That's what I would like to know
Depends on your routing . route and empty aux track to a send and load effects on there but only recording the blank aux and monitoring through the effect aux
DEV RIGHT , i record with plugins bypassed. lj u need outboard gear . if it dont sound right with just the tune , it aint it
Ableton 12
Yo bro I just dropped 300 on the ssl2+ mkii a couple of days ago, after seeing the way y'all talked about the SSL I'm not feeling so sure about my purchase😭should I return it? I need some recommendations
If it sound good to you it is good
@@th-redattack yeah I ended up keeping it sounds way cleaner than my old rode interface. The high pass button is nice but the 4k button is a little too harsh to use imo. Maybe it would better on something like a sm7b.
@@dxndrae i have seen people liking it (4k mode) for rap/drill vocals
“I just got that Eden” 😂
Track into nothing other than a noise gate. If you can get it sounding proper dry, than messing around with the wet signals is more forgiving .
Trust. Unless your using analog gear and going for a specific sound knowingly.
Might as well keep the tracking vocal as dry as possible.
Than I just slide it down to the main vocal bus and voila I have my main vocal chain there that I tweak to each individual song a least a lil bit like with la2a to dial in compression for example
8:45 get that cl1b mannnn or the warm audio wa1b
Please do the symphony shootout
LJ needs his own show... so Devin could actually finish his thoughts
I was thinking about replacing my focusrite 18/20 3rd generation with RME ucx II but should i rethink that decision ????
L Jean’s Track-King bar was harder than Jay’s Business Man bar fr 🫡😂
is Lewitt - LCT 440 PURE good for rap vocals? thank u!
did this comparison ever happen??
17:18 definitely a regression smh that ssl sucks bro wasn’t letting my clients use that 😢
nickelodeon shirt has to be highlight of this episode, can we do a shoot out of lowest latency plugins? that would be a dope video to see which plugins have the best quality for lowest latency. @impressno1
i wish I could hear what LJ's issue was with the vocals.
And then he packed his Duet for the road 😂
how can I get on the podcast as guest
Rosetta EQ Auto-Tune compressor
Daunt from Perth Australia is the goat at engineering on fl studio, he can track better than lj easyyyyyy
Not at all especially if you’re just recording a vocal and a instrument high end conversion only matters once your going out of outboard gear and need your signals to be transparent as possible going in and out
Now if you’re mixing in a well treated room with pro level monitors $4000+ have an analog mastering chain then yes the difference in convertors would matter
I been tracking with a Avalon737 uad and a cl1b plugin, using that vs a 2A?
28:49 please do that asap
💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
15:17 he being paying close attention to lj
Somebody call Paul Third on that conversion talk.
Casually saying you send your mix to Leslie brathwaite is Illuminati as hell 🤣🤣🤣
OD!!!!!!!!!!
The MT48 Has DSP Eq, Compression And Even Reverb You Don’t Even Need Plugins L Jean Should Watch Whole Loops The Realest Puppet Review On The MT48
Where’s some of LJs music?? I wanna hear his work.