Should You Eq Compress First Or Compress Eq?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ส.ค. 2024
  • In this episode the guys discuss a heavily debated topic in audio. Should you eq before you compress or compress before you eq? Are you changing the nuance you would get from compression? Are you now only boosting the good? Lets find out.
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  • @HelpMeDevvon
    @HelpMeDevvon  ปีที่แล้ว +2

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    • @FreshChanges
      @FreshChanges ปีที่แล้ว

      I NEED HELP WITH THE ROSETTA EQ ITS NOT SHOWING UP IN MY DAW AND IVE DONE EVERYTHING....HELP!!!

  • @Micahryann
    @Micahryann ปีที่แล้ว +31

    If this pod did 4 hour episodes, I’d still rewatch every single one as I do now. Thank you guys for making these. ❤️‍🔥

    • @HelpMeDevvon
      @HelpMeDevvon  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      We got more coming we gotcha!

    • @ZAY________
      @ZAY________ 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yup I watch and rewatch every episode 2-3 times and take notes in my phone.

    • @gabepeters527
      @gabepeters527 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      OD

  • @antwon4518
    @antwon4518 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Y’all make me feel sane. I don’t know any other engineers or real producers IRL

  • @iamjordanpass
    @iamjordanpass ปีที่แล้ว +9

    From what I’ve seen of professional recording engineers they’re compressing the vocal through hardware as it goes into the box and then applying EQ and then compression down the chain. So from what I’ve seen they’re compressing the vocal first, lightly to control those peaks and it’s usually a transparent compressor, then EQ and then tonal compression

  • @ChaceBonanno
    @ChaceBonanno ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This is been my new favorite podcast. I listen to every episode and always wish they were longer. Looking forward to seeing y’all really take off. The right guests could take this to the next level.

    • @HelpMeDevvon
      @HelpMeDevvon  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      U r absolutely right we really want timbaland bad cause we ll ask the questions u kno we all want to know

    • @TheUpperClassMen
      @TheUpperClassMen ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't make longer episodes. Short and sweet will push yall further in a shorter period of time. This shit is perfect to me.

  • @gthcstudios
    @gthcstudios ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As rule of thumb I'd say: Substractiv EQing mostly before Compression and Additive EQing mostly after Compression. Except of when you actually wan't certain Frequencies to trigger the Comp earlier. Then you might actually wan't to raise these Frequencies before the Compression for a good Reason. But it also depends on the Type of Compression you wan't to achive (Upward/Downward Compression)

  • @HeavenWilliams
    @HeavenWilliams ปีที่แล้ว +15

    THESE ARE NOT LONG ENOUGH AT ALL.. AT LEAST AN HOUR WOULD SUFFICE

  • @RobinZV1
    @RobinZV1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    found your podcast this weekend and i’m digging every episode i’m seeing. y’all got some hot takes on some things where you admit you don’t know much, and it’s nice to see humility amongst fellow audio nerds.
    on this topic, it’s simple. ask yourself what you want to highlight-both methods compliment each other so much that the question just cancels itself out.

  • @musicproductiontips3121
    @musicproductiontips3121 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I personally use corrective EQ 1st
    Then compress
    Then add EQ for color.
    My personal preference.

  • @lalystar4230
    @lalystar4230 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sooo... basically, you EQ (get the sound basically correct and pull out the frequencies that'll hurt when too loud), then compress to saturate and then go back to your EQ to finetune it?
    God, you guys are all over the place in your podcasts, i generally really dislike (chaotic) podcasts like these, but you guys somehow make it work for me and keep me listening right up to the end xD

  • @GodsOrdainedVisionary
    @GodsOrdainedVisionary ปีที่แล้ว +1

    let the song tell you what to do, but personally I deductive EQ first before I compress. That way I get rid of harsh sounds first and the signal going into the compressor is clearer and cleaner.

  • @KennyCalypso
    @KennyCalypso 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yall should do a topic about marketing your music for people that have trouble with getting their music to new listeners

  • @Tai-Dye
    @Tai-Dye ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yooo Sage Audio is so underrated, super happy they got mentioned

    • @HelpMeDevvon
      @HelpMeDevvon  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sage audio is goateddddd

    • @doubleahitmusic
      @doubleahitmusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sage Audio is amazing! I discovered Futuristic from their audio examples which is dope!

  • @hibobbywoody
    @hibobbywoody ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i'm glad we giving virtual dj some respect!!

  • @phillipypakasonofthelight3757
    @phillipypakasonofthelight3757 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I definitely EQ first so I can get rid of it all those problems and I actually learned that from dervon, and it just makes sense

  • @ChaceBonanno
    @ChaceBonanno ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Serato’s on point with key and BPM. Like 99% of the time it’s got it. Serato Sample is a great plugin.

  • @raysewell7279
    @raysewell7279 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys gonna get me so fired. I’m hooked!!!

  • @skrypture1162
    @skrypture1162 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You work outta protools bro😂 💀

  • @triptheworthy1son431
    @triptheworthy1son431 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1 of yall need to try akai mpc studio 2
    I REALLY wanna hear your opinions on it I highkey love it

  • @waddupnvck
    @waddupnvck ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I get so many gems from yall

  • @evngeo8126
    @evngeo8126 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    We need a proper Logic representative on here!

    • @HelpMeDevvon
      @HelpMeDevvon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmaoooo we give y’all so much flowers tho 😭

    • @evngeo8126
      @evngeo8126 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HelpMeDevvon That’s a fact! I just would love to see the dynamic of throwing someone new in the convo from a different DAW and seeing the debates that would come from it 😂

  • @marksmith4784
    @marksmith4784 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The eq before compressor is so the compressor will press that frequently more than others

  • @officiallostcause7300
    @officiallostcause7300 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hilarious watching this Episode with my Novation LaunchKey49 sitting in front of me!!!

  • @k.wrightraksproductions1198
    @k.wrightraksproductions1198 ปีที่แล้ว

    MP3 is Arizona!! WAV is minute maid, FLAC is tropicana apple, OGG is Chubby!! AAC is Simply orange!

  • @sonpmusic7317
    @sonpmusic7317 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If it's Wednesday you know it's #MyAudionerds day.. Always looking forward for your episodes from Kenya.

  • @Dluv882
    @Dluv882 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I EQ before I compress because the compressor doesn’t have to work as hard changes the whole feel of the voice🔥✊🏾

  • @noahb136
    @noahb136 ปีที่แล้ว

    Use Logic Pro X BPM counter with Nectar 2 pitch correct “key finder” is the A1 find for setup

  • @claffmatic
    @claffmatic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Native instruments has the best controller/software package imo

  • @gabilaofficial
    @gabilaofficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "I had a friend of mine who was an edm DJ , imember..." 😹My man Devvon speaking a language of the Gods

  •  ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do subtractive eq first before I compress

  • @skrypture1162
    @skrypture1162 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Devvon look like Cuba Gooding JR😂

  • @victoranthonywalker
    @victoranthonywalker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great one from the guys I love this channel

  • @noelgallard1128
    @noelgallard1128 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    EQ matters more on the way in to your Daw then it does in your Daw. That’s what people forget we EQd on the way in.

  • @jhevon
    @jhevon ปีที่แล้ว

    YOOO VirtualDJ lives on my computer just for the BPM finder too 😂

  • @waves7300
    @waves7300 ปีที่แล้ว

    FL ❤

  • @CScriptMusic
    @CScriptMusic ปีที่แล้ว

    This is easily becoming my favorite pod!

  • @xpressmuzik1379
    @xpressmuzik1379 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep it up bro love the diversity

  • @midlifeadventures3138
    @midlifeadventures3138 ปีที่แล้ว

    Analog will always be at the front end of recordings. A 1073 plug-in doesn’t even sound remotely close to hardware yet..
    Music recorded with analog moves me every time I hear it. Digital recordings move me for a couple days..it’s a feeling. I use both because of convience and price.

  • @gkakaj
    @gkakaj ปีที่แล้ว

    FL TO THE World

  • @lildakaking
    @lildakaking ปีที่แล้ว

    Im a UAD plugin user and I must say, they plugins are priced high, but on the other hand. They make up for it because they plug-ins are almost spot on with the sound of the hardware it recreates.

    • @yggbeats5759
      @yggbeats5759 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey im thinking about buying UAD stuff, but im usualy using waves plugins. Main reason is for my vocal chain but im not sure yet i heard that UAD because their preamp 1073 is so good. Is it worth it?

  • @croco_beats
    @croco_beats ปีที่แล้ว

    So true! I also got vdj just to check tempo and key..😂😂😅..now i use serato sample.

  • @ShotByTWade
    @ShotByTWade ปีที่แล้ว

    I MBC, then use Manny Triple D, then compress/eq or eq/compress depending on the beat or end result i want

  • @londalecarter3482
    @londalecarter3482 ปีที่แล้ว

    On my moma VDJ been holding it down!!

  • @HollerAtcherBoi
    @HollerAtcherBoi ปีที่แล้ว

    Roll off/cut lows before compression, any other EQ after.

  • @JonnyYayoBeatz
    @JonnyYayoBeatz ปีที่แล้ว

    Mannnn!!!! I Love this podcast as a fellow nerd Thank you for guys!!!

  • @tymoni3606
    @tymoni3606 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tunebat is my go to till this day. I use it to find the key of the song. I’m surprised it’s not underground as I thought it was 😭

    • @Tai-Dye
      @Tai-Dye ปีที่แล้ว

      I still use tunebat as well haha simple and quick, bpm is occaaasionaly wrong, but key is always on point, and if your DAW has 'tap to tempo' function you're set

    • @BigMufuckinRigues
      @BigMufuckinRigues 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Tai-Dyeyo I have a question about tunebat if you don’t mind?

  • @Jexzi
    @Jexzi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    23:42 “Have you ever touched a neve 1073 by any chance? The FAMOUS pre-amp!” He said “I prolly like dragged my hand over it.”💀

    • @wavydavybeats
      @wavydavybeats ปีที่แล้ว

      Give him a pass lol I think he’s just a music producer and he’s young

  • @magnetikphrequence
    @magnetikphrequence ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro I would love to be on this show, I have a podcast myself and I would love to collaborate with you guys! Much respect ✊🏾

  • @JonnyYayoBeatz
    @JonnyYayoBeatz ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey I rent to Devvon Don't trip I got your back!!! LMAO

  • @aceincarnate
    @aceincarnate ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can ya do a episode talking about the state of underground producers/engineers

  • @TheUpperClassMen
    @TheUpperClassMen ปีที่แล้ว

    The juice comparison part got me weakkkkkkkkkkkk

  • @prodyouleeseas
    @prodyouleeseas ปีที่แล้ว

    Ljean threw Courtney the mean alley oop lmfao

  • @rudi876
    @rudi876 ปีที่แล้ว

    @1:18 FLzeimer - incredible

  • @andrewmalekmusic
    @andrewmalekmusic ปีที่แล้ว

    "VirtualDJ is something you can try very easily.
    But if you play in club, its also amazing...
    I was super impressed, its very cool"
    David Guetta
    Multi-platinum DJ & Producer

  • @johnowotade2780
    @johnowotade2780 ปีที่แล้ว

    That virtual dj convo was so important and triggering 🤣🤣

  • @bobbykeys1666
    @bobbykeys1666 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buddy was checkin his armpits at 20:08? 😂

  • @iamshashu
    @iamshashu ปีที่แล้ว

    serato's grid is no joke lol, I didn't know how it actually works for the longest time. We can add up to 99 grid markers per song. and its smart too. It just takes a few tries to get how it works

  • @juniorkafi731
    @juniorkafi731 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey man i really like your podcast keep doing the good work!

  • @fondusportfolio
    @fondusportfolio ปีที่แล้ว

    Highly enjoyed this. Funny and educational

  • @noahb136
    @noahb136 ปีที่แล้ว

    But on the real “MixedInKey” is the A1 move now

  • @ZynDromeBeats
    @ZynDromeBeats ปีที่แล้ว

    Hot take . Started out using Virtual DJ, switched to Serato and used it for two years, an then switched back to Virtual DJ. Sure, Serato Stems is cool but VDJ's UI is better . Oh and btw... #ProToolsGang

  • @ChadyBeats
    @ChadyBeats ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Straight out of Trinidad 🇹🇹

  • @flrtzayahmusic7815
    @flrtzayahmusic7815 ปีที่แล้ว

    PRO TOOLS PROPHET

  • @reggieraxx3416
    @reggieraxx3416 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve never heard you guys mention any antelope audio 🤔 they’re pretty good

  • @chemdrum
    @chemdrum ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Back in school, somehow I was taught to compress before EQing because "the compressor can change the tonality of your audio due to saturation and stuff". But I've been EQing before applying compression post school days so....I guess it really doesn't matter lol. Yoooo, one topic you guys should talk about that's been grindin my gears is the concept of pre fader metering and post fader metering. It's been said that pre fader metering is for recording to check the gain stage of all inputs and post fader metering is for mixing. Personally, I don't see the purpose of post fader metering at all-like, why would I want my meters to follow my fader? But idk lol

    • @HelpMeDevvon
      @HelpMeDevvon  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Right I was taught that too!!! But I’ve changed my ways and I just use my ears

  • @kdg6963
    @kdg6963 ปีที่แล้ว

    i use traktor to find key and bpm

  • @sehbeats4572
    @sehbeats4572 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Subtractive eq > Compression > additive eq

  • @jeowhi
    @jeowhi ปีที่แล้ว

    courtney back let’s goo!

  • @MrandMrsPodcasting
    @MrandMrsPodcasting ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can’t lie I EQ first on individual channels but on my master I’m compressing first 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @blackheartworldtv
    @blackheartworldtv ปีที่แล้ว

    “he’s rich”
    “no i said it was too high of a price”
    “oh I’m sorry, you’re a broke boy” 😂😂

  • @lilian896
    @lilian896 ปีที่แล้ว

    Episode of Dolby Atmos in Logic with Apple rendering. ☘Thanks.

  • @caryaton
    @caryaton ปีที่แล้ว +1

    UAD is great

  • @andrewmalekmusic
    @andrewmalekmusic ปีที่แล้ว

    Akai DAW is awesome, as long as you send it Pro Tools later on 😎

  • @80sBabyPB
    @80sBabyPB ปีที่แล้ว

    MOTU is the goat #ijs they gave you us the first midi 8x8 interface

  • @TheyCallMeCeejay
    @TheyCallMeCeejay ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I dunno where he heard Canadians dont like Minute Maid. Dont lie on us 😂😂

  • @mikethelycangaming2346
    @mikethelycangaming2346 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chris Rock you mean Chris Tucker Cuh!

  • @bydez4260
    @bydez4260 ปีที่แล้ว

    Protools where y’all at!!!💪

  • @deemac1
    @deemac1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find myself eq after comp a lot of the times

  • @kyleluib7310
    @kyleluib7310 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this on Spotify

  • @johnisrael5183
    @johnisrael5183 ปีที่แล้ว

    You EQ First
    Compression is for final Dynamic Control

  • @ANTspiration
    @ANTspiration ปีที่แล้ว

    LJ really not an engineer 😂 we still love you tho brobro

  • @ByeBye.Monday
    @ByeBye.Monday ปีที่แล้ว

    Maschine doesnt come wih a visual eq just wanna throw that out there.

  • @djbigskullygamingandmusic
    @djbigskullygamingandmusic ปีที่แล้ว

    I need to join the podcast team I'm a studio one master

  • @shawnwaldron1018
    @shawnwaldron1018 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chris Tucker you said Chris Rock it was Tucker brudda

  • @kdg6963
    @kdg6963 ปีที่แล้ว

    i'm a producer, IN PRO TOOLS

  • @Insomnia_tic
    @Insomnia_tic ปีที่แล้ว

    13:45

  • @johnisrael5183
    @johnisrael5183 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eqing First then Compression
    Also sounds more music
    The track attenuates better

  • @djpro8258
    @djpro8258 ปีที่แล้ว

    Devvon U Said U Would Never Get Rid of the CLA 76
    have u Tried the AVID ( PRO-COMP) ???

  • @shivakittusamy5560
    @shivakittusamy5560 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need a guest host that is a logic user 😂

    • @tjgeorges6331
      @tjgeorges6331 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bro i’m downnnn wtw 😭😭😭 ik a fair amt about engineering and im lowkey nasty w logic

    • @shivakittusamy5560
      @shivakittusamy5560 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tjgeorges6331 Hey I don’t own the podcast but lowkey would be dope to have that logic representation one way or the other 😂

  • @kingyasofficial
    @kingyasofficial ปีที่แล้ว

    if you print your compressor then you are compressing first

  • @RollsRoyceEnvy
    @RollsRoyceEnvy 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your trying to play a mind game with me n I don’t like it💪🏽🤣

  • @simplyputviewstv5655
    @simplyputviewstv5655 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't you dare touch Stevie bro😂

  • @MarianoMcCorvey
    @MarianoMcCorvey ปีที่แล้ว

    😂😂😂

  • @mikylemusic
    @mikylemusic ปีที่แล้ว

    13:40

  • @leonklaastephotography
    @leonklaastephotography ปีที่แล้ว

    Camera Quality Dropped, ya'll good?

  • @caryaton
    @caryaton ปีที่แล้ว

    21:01 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @djpro8258
    @djpro8258 ปีที่แล้ว

    THIS IS WEIRD cause i Mainly Compress before i EQ in the (DAW) Then Again I EQ Before I Compress In The Avalon 737 Sp
    Cause I Eq The 10K Freq @ Around
    -2 DB cause i hate that freq coming off of the WA 8000 And
    The Sony C800 that Crispiness Bothers me to the core ( Eventually i put it back when i Air the Vox Back up 🤷‍♂️)

  • @arielellunatiko2761
    @arielellunatiko2761 ปีที่แล้ว

    i dont rent i own it period perpetual license

  • @LexOfNP
    @LexOfNP ปีที่แล้ว

    Y’all tripping about Fruitopia

  • @thecultureisours8353
    @thecultureisours8353 ปีที่แล้ว

    Turkey hill >