My opinion on starting on a 600cc, or in this case, an R6. Spoiler: you'll be fine. Hope you enjoy. My bike is a Yamaha 2008 R6 and I'm using the GoPro Hero 5.
You can start on any bike. 600cc bikes aren't death machines, ALL bikes can be death machines. It just takes responsibility to ride any bike, especially a 600 and up.
Teh StyLz So someone brand new would start on a cbr1000? yea, no. Anyone can start on any bike yes, but just like in life nobody starts at the top and you work your way up, same applies to sports bikes in my opinion. Because with each cc class is a new set of responsibilities financially being number one.
All about throttle control. I started on a 75 kz900. After that had a kz1000. Not a lot of top end on those but they are torque monsters. Had straight drag bars on both of them. Had a katana 600 and now a cbr600rr. Been riding for years now and still ride a 600. Love my 600.
@@Demiurge66 Well, started riding on my first FZR 1000 from 89'. 2 months later bought my first R1 RN12 from 04' One year later in 2018 changed to 15' S1000RR. Guess what? Got an appointment with my local dealership tomorrow. Interested in a beautiful red Panigale V4. Riding for 3 Years now, not a single drop, crash or similar accident. Few times on race track, still no fall. It's all about get a feeling for your bike and start by knowing you are shit and your bike can do much better than you.
some old riders are fucking dumb they will say that because they cant handle the bike you can't, but the can't keep their harley in their lane in a turn going the speed limit
I'm 39, got my license OCT2020 and my first bike is a Honda CBR600RR, with 0 experience prior to Harley MSF... I've ridden a mountain bike when I was a teenager and that's it... This vid is pretty accurate to what I went through. If you "Respect" the throttle it is fine... When I first got on the bike, I was pretty scared to do the speed limit 40mph lol... took me a few days and I was okay with it... I basically made sectioned off RPMs to train in until I felt comfortable to get to the next section of RPM, kind of like what this guy said.... it took me several weeks to a couple months to be able to redline it.
@@phreak074 your underestimating the value of the MSF course you took. Learning proper safety and techniques go a long way, it’s the people with no training and no experience that jump on 600’s and hurt themselves. Seriously I forget the exact statistic, so I won’t make anything up here, but riders who have taken an MSF course are magnitudes less likely to be involved in crashes than those who have not.
Hilarious video my man. I started on a cbr600rr. First time I hit my power band it scared the shit out of me. Good advice and keep it up. Also, I'm jealous of your throttle blips.
Started on a 250 and 1500 miles later got an r6. I would have been in the hospital for sure if I started on my r6. I made a lot of mistakes learning how to ride which would definitely loop my r6 right on top of me. It feels considerably heavier too and less flickable. New riders have a hard time with low speed maneuvers and that’s why I wouldn’t recommend a 600 to any new rider.
I came here to say this. I started on a ninja 250 and I made some small mistakes on that 250 that may have seriously hurt me if I was on a 600. I now have a Honda CBR 600RR and love it immensely, but you can't put a value starting with something smaller so you can make those mistakes.....a 600 is a lot of bike.....in comparison to some others it's not, but let's not be stupid and pretend like a 600 isn't a ridiculous amount of power. The 600 will be there later, don't hurt yourself! By this same logic in the video you can start on a liter bike..."be careful and dont be stupid" is entirely subjective and having that extra power just gives greater opportunity to make mistakes.
Abs should have not only unexperienced riders . Even every road bike should have this . Because weather , and some unpredictable situations could make you very unhappy , but for fresh riders abs is must have .
@@MrLawbreaker01don’t you love when ppl speak from their pockets ? Lmao ppl have been riding for years and learning for years without abs. It’s not a necessity. It’s a comfort and sometimes a luxury
Yep I kinda regret buying a ninja 300 first. Wasted 4 grand. Now that I have my r6 (50th anniversary btw😉) I realize I could have easily started on it.
Carlos Anaya great im also going to start on an r6 15 or 16 model. I ONLY RODE A 125 BEFORE AND THAT WAS 2 YEARS BEFORE AFTER THAT I WAS MOST INTO CARS NOW AGAIN IM GETTING INTO BIKES.
Why did you even spend 4k on it there are good used ones for 2k and they don't really lose value so you buy a 300 for a year and sell it for the same price and if you drop it it's not too bad since it's a cheap bike... If you drop the r6 congrats you gotta spend around 500 bucks for new fairings and what not
"Guns dont kill people, bad people kill". Same goes for sportbikes. Great vid, love your opinion because it's the same as mine. First season this year on my first bike, ZX6R!
Great explanation on RPM, agree completely. Love the R6. i started on a HEAVY 95 Suzuki 600, in my experience "dangers" for beginners include: "monkey" throttle on starts. Passing irresponsibly in traffic (fast and without warning to other drivers) and turning at high speeds (anything above recommended speed limit). And I might add that "Intimidation" (being scared) will cloud the mind (common sense) for new riders. (Most) people know what the right thing to do to handle situations are but the "first time experience" clouds judgment. I would say to combat the "first time experience" would be multiple short rides in low traffic or no traffic would be the answer.
You can, but you shouldn't. Remember first learning how to drive a car for the first time? Pretty unsettling right? Now imagine learning how to drive in a super car vs a little honda civic. Makes it all a much better experience in the civic doesn't it? You can all do what you want but theres a reason why professionals and many experienced motorcyclists do not recommend a super sport as your first bike. The impatience of many young or newer riders to get into motorcycling on the bike they want to ride vs the bike they should be riding will forever be a problem. You make up a large percentage of the "death machine" statistics after you go down and wreck your shit. I know my words will be read and ignored, so fuck it.
Well.. if you just don't be a douche bag and get rid of the ego, then starting on a 600 isn't going to be much different. If I start on a 125cc, got used to it. Then realize I'd like to go higher, not only have you just wasted money on the 125cc, you're going to be comfortable with that bike, then say I decide to upgrade. Now I'm going to have to spend even more time getting used to a different bike. While if I had just started on a 600cc in the beginning, you'll have A. Saved probably at least £5000 B. You'll have gotten used to the 600cc in the first place, if you only start on a 600cc to start with you're not going to know any different. The only difference between a 600cc and a 125cc, is probably a bit heavier, slightly more difficult to control. All issues can be avoided regardless of what cc you start on or even just bike in general you start on.. it wont matter as long as you're not an idiot.
@@NightingaleBrawlhalla You're throwing alot of "ifs" and "buts" out there. The fact that you'd rather gamble with your life instead of your money is your prerogative. I only have a decade and over 100,000 riding miles under my belt, so hell, what do i know.
I agree. I started on a 650. But only because I researched it, and found it to be a bike with a smooth, predictable, and forgiving powerband. If that bike didn't exist, I'd probably start on a 300.
Recently i’ve built a newfound passion for motorcycles and want to get my own bike to start riding. TH-cam has been recommending me a handful of these “Starting on 600cc Bike. Worth it or not?” and well, even though i personally feel very comfortable on my friends dirt bike, that’s maybe around 150cc’s, to the point where i can literally full throttle it and reach the max speed on dirt roads... I’m still leaning and 99% likely as of right now to go out and buy myself a ninja 300 only because I know myself and i’m a sucker for speed. To avoid the temptation of the power of a super sport bike, i’ll buy a 300 first and then sell it and buy a 600. From the prices i’ve been seeing online for used bikes i’ll only lose $1-2k for the upgrade. and that’s only as far as the investment goes. i think that amount of money is worth the learning experience. not sure why i said all of this, maybe so that somebody else in my position will read it and have a better understanding. in the end, i’m not scared to die. i’m just scared of living the rest of my life handicapped.
Im just nervous cause i sat on a r6 and a r3 and i havw to tip toe on them both. And their pretty heavy. Like ive never been on 2 wheels beforw in my life.
Patricia Richardson I agree. I have a 2019 R6 and B mode is super chill. I wouldn’t say it feels like an R3 in B mode but it definitely makes the throttle less twitchy and makes it easier to ride smoothly
Great video and advice. You are right-if someone has already decided to take risks, they will do so no matter which bike they get. Here's to safe riding.
Ethan Stevens Ethan went on to buy an R1 as his first bike and he crashed into a petting zoo. He landed in a pile of shit and had a heart attack and died. RIP Ethan.
The Honda CBR600RR is also a very good starter, its very planted, handles incredibly well, is the most balanced, has a lower seat height so you can plant your feet on the ground, is the lightest and has a pretty linear powerband.
Am 37 years old been driving since I was 17, been working as a driver since i was 21 and for the past 6 month iv been an HGV driver. My respect for the road is very high and responsibility for the road comes with the job. Iv ridden bikes before, I know how to ride them but still am asking myself if to buy an R6 as my 1st bike. Not yet got my license but hopefully by the summer I will have. People I talk to say you're crazy, don't start on an R6 work your way up to one. One guy at work said to me what is wrong with you, you're a "professional driver" and mature enough, don't be a dick and go buy anything less. As long as you're responsible and respect the bike it's gonna be fine.
I never had an issue with my R6. It's actually a pretty tame bike if you short shift. 1 year later I can still stand by the R6 as a perfectly fine starter bike.
I know I’m late but great video. I started on a k7 gsxr 600 myself and what nobody tells you and people don’t realize is that just because the power is there and can go fast does not mean that you have to use it
Yeah I started on a 750 gixxer...U can start on any size bike...it's all about throttle control and clutch play, and how nice you are combining them BOTH simultaneously.... 💯
Not about power. It's about learning fundamentals on a foundation that won't collapse on you if you were to mess up. They all pose the possibility of serious injury or death. The real difference is the forgiveness factor they offer. I'm getting all these on my recommended 3 years later.
You can start on any bikes because when you start, you are scared. Bikes are dangerous when you are not scared of the power of the machine, then it becomes an issue
Love my R6 and like you I live in California. The R6 shows off in them canyons when you leaning, but yes I agree for a MATURE adult starting off riding a 600 class would be perfect
People exaggerate the type of bike one should start on DRASTICALLY. I started on a 250. I've ridden all the major 600cc super bikes except the GSXR (R6, CBR, Daytona, ZX6R). The only issue I see others having are the basics such as handling the throttle and shifting, balance, body position when turning, braking properly etc. These all can be learned on almost any bike, but I will say 250s are almost fool proof due to how slow they and how light they are.
It's important to have some experience with sliding on a dirt road, so you won't freak out and crash if you slide over a slippery spot in a fast turn. But a typical 600 is too expensive to take off road, so you're missing something in the learning process.
i owned my CBR 250 for 3 years before upgrading to my R6. I should've started out on a 600 saving time and money since i had prior knowledge from riding dirt bikes
Bro thank you I got a 150 cc velocity scooter and I want a r6 bad but I'm gonna take it easy I don't want to go over 7000 rpm until I'm ready good video
I started on a moto guzi, about 12 hours seat time on that and then got my first bike. A 2007 GSXR 600. It's not the power that gets you in trouble it's the riding stance. Just my opinion.
just bought a 2007 r6 for my first bike. i just plan on sticking to the speed limit for the first month (with in 15 mph or so), then i plan on taking it to the track when im ready to eat shit
I have to say this makes more sense of all just because let us say you have your fully car license depending on your region and your first car is an “Audi R8” considering your tax bracket. Would you drive an Audi R8 like an R8 or like a Toyota Corolla when first starting out? The question is a matter of responsiveness and responsibility and frugality versus whiskey control and amateur management
I like how he explains the low RPM range @ 4,000 - 4500rpm range until you grasp what kind of missile you have between your legs... Been away from motorcycling for years and only bike I’ve never rode was a speed bike 🏍 and I’m looking forward to riding and owning a speed bike soon I hope ... thank for great video and always keep your wheels up! And yes , you sound young and wiser than most adults on 2 wheels out there ..
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if your fine to start on a 600 great go knock yourself out but dont go putting ideas in to other peoples head that they can NOT EVERYONE can i have seen soo many people wreck there 600 because they have never rode before after you say go get a 600 anyone who watches this video then buys one and dies there blood is on your hands
Lots of great points.. Always be scanning whats around you . Leave room between yourself and others tailgating is more dangerous then speed and tailgating is just stupid.. Iv seen alot of shit when I was a first responder.
EXACT-UH-FUCKIN-LUTELY.. You can start out on a 18,000,000cc bike. It will ONLY go as fast as you make it go. Same as a gun. It WONT do ANYTHING by itself, you have to make it happen.
The 600 is a death machine in regards to getting on one without any motorbike experience. Its a lot faster than a 650 and a moped as you mentioned its not that faster!! It bloody well is, the 600 is a race bike for street and track. Drove 125 250 and 500 for yesrs Jumped on my CBR RR 600 and it was a different world The only benefits of a smaller bike is the controls familiarity. The R6 is probably the worst starter bike. Im going to tell you what you have zero idea about Riding a sports bike at low revs will destroy your engine internal parts. There specifically built to be in the high rev range there not for cruising around at 40 mph saying look at me i have a sports bike With your info your putting out you should tell the viewers to start on an R1 fuk the 600 there both the same if you ride slow!! Right??
You gotta ride it like YOU STOLE IT.. Things a BEAST over 10k RPMS..I ride a 750 gsxr n I keep her in the REDLINE..check my videos 🙏🙏💪🏾💪🏾 nice video brother
I started on a 2015 zx6r. Not hard by any means. Educate educate educate yourself. Watch twist of the wrist cornering bible, experiment and LEARN. I was pulling 45 degree lean angles on the second week of ownership just by implementing skills preached by experienced riders. Granted I felt very comfortable on a bike before I got it and knew the physics behind bike handling. Simply knowing the skills will bring you a long way. And use common sense, you have a 130hp bike that weighs 400lbs. Bitch will fucking move with the twist of the wrist, use good judgement and never get over confident and you'll do just fine.
I realize people who are more serious about long term riding and really learning HOW to ride, do not start on a 600+ . Ive been on anything from ninja 300s through cbr1000's. I thought i was a killer on the streets, after 15k miles in one year on a gsxr750, so why not go to a 1000? After going to a 1000 and doing a few track days you QUICKLY realize that street riding does not prepare or teach you 1/4th of what you need to be a talented rider. Tell a young person to keep the power low, and it wont happen. You will push your limits, you wont know how to properly handle yourself under high speeds, and you will be fucked. Not to mention R6's are incredibly prone to tank slappers and dont come with steering dampers. As gutless as the bike is in lower rpm's that can also make it unpredictable for a new rider under "oh shit" moments. You need to get out of the way but dont know how to handle yourself? Cool youll speed out of the way of problem #1, but then you hit that 8K+ rpm on accident and not know how to deal with the rear end of the stopping car infront of you on time. Can you ride one as a starter? Sure. Just depends on if you want stunted progression and understanding if you plan on really riding sportsbikes. It will take you far longer to learn on a bike that is too big for you BECAUSE you are intentionally limiting yourself "oh no i cant go past 5k unless it gets scary" is something you shouldnt need to worry about by the time an R6 is in your garage. I bought an R6 AFTER buying a 1000. My bikes = starter was a 650(perfect, taught me so much didnt get bored), then upgraded to a gsxr750(broke all my ribs in the first week, kept it for 20k miles after it), then a 2017 cbr1000rr sp2. And after owning the 1000 and doing some track days I realize I should have kept the 650/750 for WAY longer and realize NOW a 600 is a good bike to learn with. After well over 15k+ miles per bike, is when i bought an R6.
And everyone talks about throttle control which is important…. But what about clutch, rear brake and throttle control all at the same time for low speed maneuvers? That’s REAL skill. Not twisting a throttle and shifting gears. Unless you know how to ride a friction zone you have no business being on a 600cc TRACK bike, like an r6
ok yeah, but you wouldn't give a hellcat or lambo to a new driver would you? you have to remember a lot of people who ask this drive autos and have no bike experience. (by "new rider, I assume it refers to ACTUAL new riders, people who haven't ever touched bikes). They don't know how to work a clutch, or fully know how to respect a powerful machine or speed. do you have bike experience? rode dirt bikes through life? sure, then you know how to judge a bike and you can make that educated decision. but new riders who haven't ridden before? like I said, it's a 16 year old in a hellcat problem, you shouldn't recommend it to them. I would rather they have a 300 for a few months and sell it then get a 600.
Well you know, not a lot of 20 year olds are sensible :)... That's why most people, just to be on the safe side, they say....go for a 50cc bike frist :D If new bikes would be 1000-2000 bucks, well hell yeah, most would start with the newest smallest one..... But they are 2-4 times more expensive :D
Short answer - no. Why? not only is a smaller cc bike much safer for a beginner, it also requires a beginner to learn more of the nuances, such as getting more comfortable with shifting in various situations, etc etc etc A 300 will require you to shift 10x as often as a 600, which requires more braking, more finger work, more alertness to surroundings, broader awareness, etc etc etc. Never trust someone who has only one bike's worth of experience to give you advice on which bike to begin with, they simply have no beacon of measurement. EVERYONE will drop a bike in their lifetime, remember that.
First time rider here looking at a 2017+ R6! I’ve seen a few videos similar of this bike being pretty docile in the low rpm’s great job representing that
You can ride it like a 300, but how many 18 and 19 year olds are going to be disciplined enough to ride it like that? I don’t agree that you should start on a 600. If you accidentally give it too much gas as you’re letting out the clutch when you’re first learning, you’re gonna go flying 😂 just pick up an old 250 or a 300 for like 1500-2000 dollars and learn on it for a season, and then go pick up a 600. Ya, maybe you’d be fine on an r6, but maybe you won’t. You’re gambling with your life.
Starting on a 600cc motorcycle is stupid especially for your first bike, people don't understand what the difference is starting on a 250cc or 600cc. A 250cc motorcycle is a perfect bike to learn how to ride, if you start on a 250cc bike you will gain more skills and have control of the bike and most importantly keep your focus in traffic HOWEVER if you start on a 600cc your going to have a hard time riding, your going to concentrate more on controlling the bike rather then the cars around you. Many people have accidents because of this, riding a motorcycle is not a joke, you could die
You can but you shouldn't. If go SV650. You get the weight of a big bike plus forgiveness to help you learn how to control a bike. Not to mention forgiving brakes. I say learn how to control the bike, learn traffic, riding in the wind, low speed maneuvers, parking lots. After a year sell it and get a 600.
Sorry but I don't agree with your advice. Talks about throttle control and runs a stop sign. So much BAD advice. And most youtubers agree starting small is bestfor starting. An R3 would be ideal. It's forgiving.
A good rider can make a r1 dangerous and a bad rider can make a r3 dangerous. As long as you respect the bike and don’t ride faster than your guardian angel and you took the time to actually beaten you back. EI ( riding neighborhoods before highway. Learning 1,2,3 gear before boosting to 6th. You’ll be fine on a 600.
It's all just knowing your limits and respecting the bike's power, no you shouldn't start on an r1 or a honda fireblade, but anyone with common sense would know that, but I've seen people start on gsxr 600s and 750s, I've seen people start on a cbr600rr, and the ones that turned out successful took care of themselves, wore gear, and respected the bike
Not starting on a 600 or may not even get one. Number one reason is INSURANCE. With my insurance it would be 150 a month. That’s too much for me. 300s are about 40 a month.
600 cc doesn’t really mean much when you say it. A 600 street bike can go 200 mph, a 600 super motor is a different story. A 600 naked bike is in between. Bottom like is if you start on a street bike it’s sketchy. Not saying you shouldn’t or can’t. It’s sketchy, no debate.
i got a cbr f3 carbed bike as my 1st bike, then a 07 r6 then a ninja 250 cause the deal was awesome and the bike was fuckin fun it was a 2010 and now have a 2016 zx6r, all fuckin awesome in their own way, my 2018 ktm sxf 250 the funnest tho.
You have owned one bike in youre entire life (and let's be real here the only reason you bought it is because of the way it looks) you have very little riding experience and you're tryna tell noobs to start on a 600.. you can't ride that bike like you think you can bro, try an fz07. Much more comfortable basically a better bike in every single way for a rider like you riding around town or anybody trying to start on something that's not dogshit slow. I've owned 2 Yamaha r6s trust me I know the appeal but when it comes to actually enjoying a motorcycle you may convince yourself that you love the r6 but I guarantee if you go ride other bikes you will change your opinion. If you aren't a track rider you're a poser if you own and ride one of these bikes around town. You can start on a 600 but you're going to learn slow ASF and there is very little room for error. Anything is possible but there are much easier and more practical ways to learn and buying a 600 is not easy, practical, or fun to be honest. Maybe for the first year or so daily riding it but you will soon realize the downfalls of the R6 how unbelievably uncomfortable and hot it is in traffic. Get a wr250, Fz07 guarantee you'll be much better off.
Im 22, one morning i woke up and decided i wanted a bike. Hoped on kijiji hit up a dude for an r6 went an bought it that day (i rode a yamaha wr250 like 6 years ago for 1 day btw) I rode the R6 1.5hrs home and i absolutely love it bike is fucking amazing. Its docile if you want it to be but that bitch wheelies easy off the line if your not careful
He's speaking facts though...i started on a 08 r6 raven the power band is very controllable, still own it its a great bike as long as you're responsible of course...
it's kind of foolish to say "the bike won't kill you, your choices will" the whole point of being a fucking noob is you don't make good choices, the whole point of being a noob is you don't know that what you're doing is dangerous. when you are a noob riding around on a bike you don't have the experience to know the consequences of your actions and you don't have the ability to know "ok it's safe to wind it out here". its like handing a child a loaded gun, they aren't aware and they will probably go one of two ways; either fear it or have no respect for it. R6 power spike will scare the shit out of a noob rider mid corner if they lack experience. Just because someone bought a 300-400 to learn on and they're bored of it after a year does not mean it was the wrong choice, it means you've grown as a rider.
I got my motorcycle a week ago. Everyone said I would not be able to handle a 600 as my first bike. I feel like it's not enough power I thought it'd be faster lol
Sorry man but it's funny you talk about being responsible then skip a stop sign without stopping for a second, i realize you know that backstreet well and stuff, and no one goes back there really. But it's still a stop sign😂😂
You can start on any bike. 600cc bikes aren't death machines, ALL bikes can be death machines. It just takes responsibility to ride any bike, especially a 600 and up.
Teh StyLz So someone brand new would start on a cbr1000? yea, no. Anyone can start on any bike yes, but just like in life nobody starts at the top and you work your way up, same applies to sports bikes in my opinion. Because with each cc class is a new set of responsibilities financially being number one.
Ragnarok haha there’s videos of guys starting on liter bikes
Everybody can start on Litre bike but its scary to not to drop it.
All about throttle control. I started on a 75 kz900. After that had a kz1000. Not a lot of top end on those but they are torque monsters. Had straight drag bars on both of them. Had a katana 600 and now a cbr600rr. Been riding for years now and still ride a 600. Love my 600.
@@Demiurge66 Well, started riding on my first FZR 1000 from 89'.
2 months later bought my first R1 RN12 from 04'
One year later in 2018 changed to 15' S1000RR.
Guess what? Got an appointment with my local dealership tomorrow. Interested in a beautiful red Panigale V4.
Riding for 3 Years now, not a single drop, crash or similar accident. Few times on race track, still no fall.
It's all about get a feeling for your bike and start by knowing you are shit and your bike can do much better than you.
Judging by your voice, I think you're young, but you make a whole lot more sense then "older riders"! Amen! 👍
There are old riders and there are bold riders but there are no old bold riders.
@@soundsgood7757 ouu nice one
some old riders are fucking dumb they will say that because they cant handle the bike you can't, but the can't keep their harley in their lane in a turn going the speed limit
I'm 39, got my license OCT2020 and my first bike is a Honda CBR600RR, with 0 experience prior to Harley MSF... I've ridden a mountain bike when I was a teenager and that's it...
This vid is pretty accurate to what I went through. If you "Respect" the throttle it is fine...
When I first got on the bike, I was pretty scared to do the speed limit 40mph lol... took me a few days and I was okay with it... I basically made sectioned off RPMs to train in until I felt comfortable to get to the next section of RPM, kind of like what this guy said.... it took me several weeks to a couple months to be able to redline it.
@@phreak074 your underestimating the value of the MSF course you took. Learning proper safety and techniques go a long way, it’s the people with no training and no experience that jump on 600’s and hurt themselves.
Seriously I forget the exact statistic, so I won’t make anything up here, but riders who have taken an MSF course are magnitudes less likely to be involved in crashes than those who have not.
“I’m responsible” runs a stop sign
SARTIN 1755 😂😂😂
The guy is a clown.
“I’m responsible” leaves blinker on
His point is valid even so
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Rookie: you should start on a 600
Me: cries in European
So sad :(
Take your Euro 4 exhaust away too
Yh idk if it’s the same for Europe but in the uk you can only ride 125cc when your 17 and you have to be at least 21 to have any bike you want
Europe sucks
Marc Corpuz who pissed in your coffee?
Damn this video makes me want a R6 even more. Too bad I’m a college kid in debt.😂
2:53 Abs-fucking-lutely lmao
Hilarious video my man. I started on a cbr600rr. First time I hit my power band it scared the shit out of me. Good advice and keep it up. Also, I'm jealous of your throttle blips.
Started on a 250 and 1500 miles later got an r6. I would have been in the hospital for sure if I started on my r6. I made a lot of mistakes learning how to ride which would definitely loop my r6 right on top of me. It feels considerably heavier too and less flickable. New riders have a hard time with low speed maneuvers and that’s why I wouldn’t recommend a 600 to any new rider.
I came here to say this. I started on a ninja 250 and I made some small mistakes on that 250 that may have seriously hurt me if I was on a 600. I now have a Honda CBR 600RR and love it immensely, but you can't put a value starting with something smaller so you can make those mistakes.....a 600 is a lot of bike.....in comparison to some others it's not, but let's not be stupid and pretend like a 600 isn't a ridiculous amount of power. The 600 will be there later, don't hurt yourself! By this same logic in the video you can start on a liter bike..."be careful and dont be stupid" is entirely subjective and having that extra power just gives greater opportunity to make mistakes.
Ninja 400 should be the best Of all
It even beats my R3 in torque and HP
@@MrMilk-ug6glwhat small mistakes did you make
Also to all my boys getting a 600 for a starter please get ABS you’ll thank me later
Abs should have not only unexperienced riders . Even every road bike should have this . Because weather , and some unpredictable situations could make you very unhappy , but for fresh riders abs is must have .
Not everyone can afford a newer bike (older ones have no ABS). And also not everyone wants to be in debt, so a big no to financing a newer bike.
@@MrLawbreaker01 facts
@@MrLawbreaker01don’t you love when ppl speak from their pockets ? Lmao ppl have been riding for years and learning for years without abs. It’s not a necessity. It’s a comfort and sometimes a luxury
Yep I kinda regret buying a ninja 300 first. Wasted 4 grand. Now that I have my r6 (50th anniversary btw😉) I realize I could have easily started on it.
xX OldSchoolJules Xx 300s are not much lighter then the r6 I’m hoping to start on the 17 r6 this coming summer
Carlos Anaya great im also going to start on an r6 15 or 16 model.
I ONLY RODE A 125 BEFORE AND THAT WAS 2 YEARS BEFORE AFTER THAT I WAS MOST INTO CARS NOW AGAIN IM GETTING INTO BIKES.
Carlos Anaya ur extra dumb if ur gonna buy a BRAND fucking new r6 as ur first bike.
The only reason I wanna start on a 300 or 400 is cause I know I might trash it or drop it. So I dont wanna spend alot knowing theres that chance.
Why did you even spend 4k on it there are good used ones for 2k and they don't really lose value so you buy a 300 for a year and sell it for the same price and if you drop it it's not too bad since it's a cheap bike... If you drop the r6 congrats you gotta spend around 500 bucks for new fairings and what not
"Guns dont kill people, bad people kill". Same goes for sportbikes. Great vid, love your opinion because it's the same as mine. First season this year on my first bike, ZX6R!
“Guns don’t kill people” you must be have a low iq. 🤦♂️
7:37 the irony of talking about being safe as he runs a stop sign LOL
Lmao u damn well know you've ran a stop sign before too it happens
@@kdnelectric1280 I used to use my opposite foot to brake when I first tried driving and I either slammed it or gave it way too little lol
It might be the reason he hasn’t made any more videos
i started dying when i saw that lmaoo
Great explanation on RPM, agree completely. Love the R6. i started on a HEAVY 95 Suzuki 600, in my experience "dangers" for beginners include: "monkey" throttle on starts. Passing irresponsibly in traffic (fast and without warning to other drivers) and turning at high speeds (anything above recommended speed limit). And I might add that "Intimidation" (being scared) will cloud the mind (common sense) for new riders. (Most) people know what the right thing to do to handle situations are but the "first time experience" clouds judgment. I would say to combat the "first time experience" would be multiple short rides in low traffic or no traffic would be the answer.
You can, but you shouldn't. Remember first learning how to drive a car for the first time? Pretty unsettling right? Now imagine learning how to drive in a super car vs a little honda civic. Makes it all a much better experience in the civic doesn't it?
You can all do what you want but theres a reason why professionals and many experienced motorcyclists do not recommend a super sport as your first bike. The impatience of many young or newer riders to get into motorcycling on the bike they want to ride vs the bike they should be riding will forever be a problem. You make up a large percentage of the "death machine" statistics after you go down and wreck your shit. I know my words will be read and ignored, so fuck it.
Well.. if you just don't be a douche bag and get rid of the ego, then starting on a 600 isn't going to be much different.
If I start on a 125cc, got used to it. Then realize I'd like to go higher, not only have you just wasted money on the 125cc, you're going to be comfortable with that bike, then say I decide to upgrade. Now I'm going to have to spend even more time getting used to a different bike. While if I had just started on a 600cc in the beginning, you'll have A. Saved probably at least £5000 B. You'll have gotten used to the 600cc in the first place, if you only start on a 600cc to start with you're not going to know any different. The only difference between a 600cc and a 125cc, is probably a bit heavier, slightly more difficult to control. All issues can be avoided regardless of what cc you start on or even just bike in general you start on.. it wont matter as long as you're not an idiot.
@@NightingaleBrawlhalla You're throwing alot of "ifs" and "buts" out there. The fact that you'd rather gamble with your life instead of your money is your prerogative. I only have a decade and over 100,000 riding miles under my belt, so hell, what do i know.
I agree. I started on a 650. But only because I researched it, and found it to be a bike with a smooth, predictable, and forgiving powerband. If that bike didn't exist, I'd probably start on a 300.
Recently i’ve built a newfound passion for motorcycles and want to get my own bike to start riding. TH-cam has been recommending me a handful of these “Starting on 600cc Bike. Worth it or not?” and well, even though i personally feel very comfortable on my friends dirt bike, that’s maybe around 150cc’s, to the point where i can literally full throttle it and reach the max speed on dirt roads... I’m still leaning and 99% likely as of right now to go out and buy myself a ninja 300 only because I know myself and i’m a sucker for speed. To avoid the temptation of the power of a super sport bike, i’ll buy a 300 first and then sell it and buy a 600. From the prices i’ve been seeing online for used bikes i’ll only lose $1-2k for the upgrade. and that’s only as far as the investment goes. i think that amount of money is worth the learning experience. not sure why i said all of this, maybe so that somebody else in my position will read it and have a better understanding. in the end, i’m not scared to die. i’m just scared of living the rest of my life handicapped.
I learned how to ride Yamaha r6 in one day and it’s all about knowing your limits and clutch control ..
Man you're a fast learner! You're almost ready for motogp i bet.
Im just nervous cause i sat on a r6 and a r3 and i havw to tip toe on them both. And their pretty heavy. Like ive never been on 2 wheels beforw in my life.
I learned to ride in 5mins but I had experience with years of manual transmissions so once I knew where the clutch was that was pretty much it
Panchito Perez I am can you tell
Panchito Perez AHAHAHAHA hilarious😂 I’m so dead
You're absolutely right cuz I have an R1 in as long as you keep it under 6, 000 RPMs it rides like a moped. I love my R1. Thumbs up
I got a 20’ R1M.
You have an amazing personality, I really hope you continue to make videos. Don't give up !
Thank you! I really appreciate that!
Yeah he’s great!
Each to its own. Some new riders feel comfortable starting off with 600cc and some dont. Some start off with maybe 400
If you have a 2019 r6 wack it in B mode it will be a R3
Patricia Richardson I agree. I have a 2019 R6 and B mode is super chill. I wouldn’t say it feels like an R3 in B mode but it definitely makes the throttle less twitchy and makes it easier to ride smoothly
Great video and advice. You are right-if someone has already decided to take risks, they will do so no matter which bike they get. Here's to safe riding.
This is good advice in a perfect world but any man on this planet will not keep their bike under 8k rpm. Curiosity will always win.
Dude... I literally had the same idea as you. I was gonna buy an R1 and name my channel Rookie R1.
Ethan Stevens do it, I did
Ugh Motovlogitis
Ethan Stevens Ethan went on to buy an R1 as his first bike and he crashed into a petting zoo. He landed in a pile of shit and had a heart attack and died. RIP Ethan.
7:39 that stop rip
The Honda CBR600RR is also a very good starter, its very planted, handles incredibly well, is the most balanced, has a lower seat height so you can plant your feet on the ground, is the lightest and has a pretty linear powerband.
Adam E seat height lower then gsxr? Only reason I’m choosing gsxr over other 600s is lower seat height
Cycle cruza son 🤣🤣🤣
GhostinHD bet he had a real fucked up day when he discovered he was having a son
spot on he reminds him so much ! lol
He named him schoootah
Am 37 years old been driving since I was 17, been working as a driver since i was 21 and for the past 6 month iv been an HGV driver. My respect for the road is very high and responsibility for the road comes with the job. Iv ridden bikes before, I know how to ride them but still am asking myself if to buy an R6 as my 1st bike. Not yet got my license but hopefully by the summer I will have. People I talk to say you're crazy, don't start on an R6 work your way up to one. One guy at work said to me what is wrong with you, you're a "professional driver" and mature enough, don't be a dick and go buy anything less. As long as you're responsible and respect the bike it's gonna be fine.
I never had an issue with my R6. It's actually a pretty tame bike if you short shift. 1 year later I can still stand by the R6 as a perfectly fine starter bike.
@@GodlykeGaming if you ride it like a normal human then yes yamaha is nice, but when you push push push problems start, and fuck, it can be expensive
Can’t tell if this is a ex con lesbian or a 16 year old white boy
Guess who gonna go mach 25mph when they get their first ever bike next year? Me!🤣🤣🤣🤣
YOU CAN CRUISE BABY YOU CAN CRUISE HELL YEA
I know I’m late but great video. I started on a k7 gsxr 600 myself and what nobody tells you and people don’t realize is that just because the power is there and can go fast does not mean that you have to use it
Yeah I started on a 750 gixxer...U can start on any size bike...it's all about throttle control and clutch play, and how nice you are combining them BOTH simultaneously.... 💯
Not about power. It's about learning fundamentals on a foundation that won't collapse on you if you were to mess up. They all pose the possibility of serious injury or death. The real difference is the forgiveness factor they offer. I'm getting all these on my recommended 3 years later.
You just ran a stop sign man. Be careful out there.
Ive watched so many videos on this topic, yours is by far the best. Love you man
I'm about to get a 2008 yamaha r6 for $4k in 25000miles. First bike ever.
That’s awesome. You get it yet?
If your voice didn't crack yet, you shouldn't be on a 600.
Finally, someone with brains to explain this dilemma to regular people. Thanks, bro! Subscribed!
This girl has no idea what she's talking about.
From the first turn in this video I could tell she's scared of the bike.
Hahahahhaha, well i am the one who has made up his fucking mind, abso fucking lutely,😎😅😀
Low wrist. Solid advice bro.
Slow on a r6? Nope! Not healthy, its made to scream dude shauld ride Like a boss, i Like it.
You can start on any bikes because when you start, you are scared. Bikes are dangerous when you are not scared of the power of the machine, then it becomes an issue
I like this guy! Wait... Girl! Fuck I don't know but I liked it
Love my R6 and like you I live in California. The R6 shows off in them canyons when you leaning, but yes I agree for a MATURE adult starting off riding a 600 class would be perfect
People exaggerate the type of bike one should start on DRASTICALLY.
I started on a 250. I've ridden all the major 600cc super bikes except the GSXR (R6, CBR, Daytona, ZX6R).
The only issue I see others having are the basics such as handling the throttle and shifting, balance, body position when turning, braking properly etc. These all can be learned on almost any bike, but I will say 250s are almost fool proof due to how slow they and how light they are.
It's important to have some experience with sliding on a dirt road, so you won't freak out and crash if you slide over a slippery spot in a fast turn. But a typical 600 is too expensive to take off road, so you're missing something in the learning process.
i owned my CBR 250 for 3 years before upgrading to my R6. I should've started out on a 600 saving time and money since i had prior knowledge from riding dirt bikes
And how tall are you?
Because its the tallest of the 600s and that's what people cry about more because averagely most people are short
I'm 5'6 so it's definitely uncomfortable. Although it's manageable depending on what your use for the bike is.
I started on a 600 cbr and it was just fine . So much fun .
If you've ridden dirtbikes riding a 600 is a cake walk, love my r6
Rode dirt bikes growing up and my first street bike is a GSX-S750 (115hp) and it’s not intimidating at all. Feels damn close to a 450F.
Much informative video bro
This video deserves more likes
I started on a Honda VF500 Interceptor. 70 hp it was perfect for my first bike. Now I have a ZXR750 (ZX7).
Blue Moon zx7 is legendary 😪🙏🏾
Bro thank you I got a 150 cc velocity scooter and I want a r6 bad but I'm gonna take it easy I don't want to go over 7000 rpm until I'm ready good video
I started on a moto guzi, about 12 hours seat time on that and then got my first bike. A 2007 GSXR 600. It's not the power that gets you in trouble it's the riding stance. Just my opinion.
I'm 18 and 600cc as a starter would totally get me killed, I certainly would have to mature a little to prepare myself for it
i like the cut of your jib homie well done subbed stay safe sir
Sounds good. Just bought a stretched twin turbo Hayabusa. Gonna take it slow and work my way up the RPM’S, Right Babe?
He said R6. not TT Busa. Same rule doesn't apply.
just bought a 2007 r6 for my first bike. i just plan on sticking to the speed limit for the first month (with in 15 mph or so), then i plan on taking it to the track when im ready to eat shit
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I have to say this makes more sense of all just because let us say you have your fully car license depending on your region and your first car is an “Audi R8” considering your tax bracket.
Would you drive an Audi R8 like an R8 or like a Toyota Corolla when first starting out? The question is a matter of responsiveness and responsibility and frugality versus whiskey control and amateur management
I like the sport bikes but the riding position looks awkward... I recently found out about bikes like Ninja 650 that are a hybrid
I like how he explains the low RPM range @ 4,000 - 4500rpm range until you grasp what kind of missile you have between your legs...
Been away from motorcycling for years and only bike I’ve never rode was a speed bike 🏍 and I’m looking forward to riding and owning a speed bike soon I hope ... thank for great video and always keep your wheels up!
And yes , you sound young and wiser than most adults on 2 wheels out there ..
Should you start on a 0.1cc bike ?.
Jack K u mean walking
Dang Huy lmao😂
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if your fine to start on a 600 great go knock yourself out but dont go putting ideas in to other peoples head that they can NOT EVERYONE can i have seen soo many people wreck there 600 because they have never rode before after you say go get a 600 anyone who watches this video then buys one and dies there blood is on your hands
Lots of great points.. Always be scanning whats around you . Leave room between yourself and others tailgating is more dangerous then speed and tailgating is just stupid.. Iv seen alot of shit when I was a first responder.
EXACT-UH-FUCKIN-LUTELY.. You can start out on a 18,000,000cc bike. It will ONLY go as fast as you make it go. Same as a gun. It WONT do ANYTHING by itself, you have to make it happen.
The 600 is a death machine in regards to getting on one without any motorbike experience.
Its a lot faster than a 650 and a moped as you mentioned its not that faster!! It bloody well is, the 600 is a race bike for street and track.
Drove 125 250 and 500 for yesrs
Jumped on my CBR RR 600 and it was a different world
The only benefits of a smaller bike is the controls familiarity.
The R6 is probably the worst starter bike.
Im going to tell you what you have zero idea about
Riding a sports bike at low revs will destroy your engine internal parts.
There specifically built to be in the high rev range there not for cruising around at 40 mph saying look at me i have a sports bike
With your info your putting out you should tell the viewers to start on an R1 fuk the 600 there both the same if you ride slow!! Right??
You gotta ride it like YOU STOLE IT.. Things a BEAST over 10k RPMS..I ride a 750 gsxr n I keep her in the REDLINE..check my videos 🙏🙏💪🏾💪🏾 nice video brother
I started on a 2015 zx6r. Not hard by any means. Educate educate educate yourself. Watch twist of the wrist cornering bible, experiment and LEARN. I was pulling 45 degree lean angles on the second week of ownership just by implementing skills preached by experienced riders. Granted I felt very comfortable on a bike before I got it and knew the physics behind bike handling. Simply knowing the skills will bring you a long way. And use common sense, you have a 130hp bike that weighs 400lbs. Bitch will fucking move with the twist of the wrist, use good judgement and never get over confident and you'll do just fine.
Are you peter parker ?
I realize people who are more serious about long term riding and really learning HOW to ride, do not start on a 600+ . Ive been on anything from ninja 300s through cbr1000's. I thought i was a killer on the streets, after 15k miles in one year on a gsxr750, so why not go to a 1000? After going to a 1000 and doing a few track days you QUICKLY realize that street riding does not prepare or teach you 1/4th of what you need to be a talented rider.
Tell a young person to keep the power low, and it wont happen. You will push your limits, you wont know how to properly handle yourself under high speeds, and you will be fucked. Not to mention R6's are incredibly prone to tank slappers and dont come with steering dampers. As gutless as the bike is in lower rpm's that can also make it unpredictable for a new rider under "oh shit" moments. You need to get out of the way but dont know how to handle yourself? Cool youll speed out of the way of problem #1, but then you hit that 8K+ rpm on accident and not know how to deal with the rear end of the stopping car infront of you on time.
Can you ride one as a starter? Sure. Just depends on if you want stunted progression and understanding if you plan on really riding sportsbikes. It will take you far longer to learn on a bike that is too big for you BECAUSE you are intentionally limiting yourself "oh no i cant go past 5k unless it gets scary" is something you shouldnt need to worry about by the time an R6 is in your garage. I bought an R6 AFTER buying a 1000. My bikes = starter was a 650(perfect, taught me so much didnt get bored), then upgraded to a gsxr750(broke all my ribs in the first week, kept it for 20k miles after it), then a 2017 cbr1000rr sp2. And after owning the 1000 and doing some track days I realize I should have kept the 650/750 for WAY longer and realize NOW a 600 is a good bike to learn with. After well over 15k+ miles per bike, is when i bought an R6.
And everyone talks about throttle control which is important…. But what about clutch, rear brake and throttle control all at the same time for low speed maneuvers? That’s REAL skill. Not twisting a throttle and shifting gears.
Unless you know how to ride a friction zone you have no business being on a 600cc TRACK bike, like an r6
ok yeah, but you wouldn't give a hellcat or lambo to a new driver would you? you have to remember a lot of people who ask this drive autos and have no bike experience. (by "new rider, I assume it refers to ACTUAL new riders, people who haven't ever touched bikes). They don't know how to work a clutch, or fully know how to respect a powerful machine or speed. do you have bike experience? rode dirt bikes through life? sure, then you know how to judge a bike and you can make that educated decision. but new riders who haven't ridden before? like I said, it's a 16 year old in a hellcat problem, you shouldn't recommend it to them. I would rather they have a 300 for a few months and sell it then get a 600.
Well you know, not a lot of 20 year olds are sensible :)...
That's why most people, just to be on the safe side, they say....go for a 50cc bike frist :D
If new bikes would be 1000-2000 bucks, well hell yeah, most would start with the newest smallest one..... But they are 2-4 times more expensive :D
Talking about power and mentioning 600s is actually a good joke. You’re obviously biased towards 600s. 100mph is NOT fast, at all.
Short answer - no. Why? not only is a smaller cc bike much safer for a beginner, it also requires a beginner to learn more of the nuances, such as getting more comfortable with shifting in various situations, etc etc etc A 300 will require you to shift 10x as often as a 600, which requires more braking, more finger work, more alertness to surroundings, broader awareness, etc etc etc.
Never trust someone who has only one bike's worth of experience to give you advice on which bike to begin with, they simply have no beacon of measurement. EVERYONE will drop a bike in their lifetime, remember that.
First time rider here looking at a 2017+ R6! I’ve seen a few videos similar of this bike being pretty docile in the low rpm’s great job representing that
You can ride it like a 300, but how many 18 and 19 year olds are going to be disciplined enough to ride it like that? I don’t agree that you should start on a 600. If you accidentally give it too much gas as you’re letting out the clutch when you’re first learning, you’re gonna go flying 😂 just pick up an old 250 or a 300 for like 1500-2000 dollars and learn on it for a season, and then go pick up a 600. Ya, maybe you’d be fine on an r6, but maybe you won’t. You’re gambling with your life.
Starting on a 600cc motorcycle is stupid especially for your first bike, people don't understand what the difference is starting on a 250cc or 600cc. A 250cc motorcycle is a perfect bike to learn how to ride, if you start on a 250cc bike you will gain more skills and have control of the bike and most importantly keep your focus in traffic HOWEVER if you start on a 600cc your going to have a hard time riding, your going to concentrate more on controlling the bike rather then the cars around you.
Many people have accidents because of this, riding a motorcycle is not a joke, you could die
You can but you shouldn't. If go SV650. You get the weight of a big bike plus forgiveness to help you learn how to control a bike. Not to mention forgiving brakes. I say learn how to control the bike, learn traffic, riding in the wind, low speed maneuvers, parking lots. After a year sell it and get a 600.
Sorry but I don't agree with your advice. Talks about throttle control and runs a stop sign.
So much BAD advice. And most youtubers agree starting small is bestfor starting. An R3 would be ideal. It's forgiving.
A good rider can make a r1 dangerous and a bad rider can make a r3 dangerous. As long as you respect the bike and don’t ride faster than your guardian angel and you took the time to actually beaten you back. EI ( riding neighborhoods before highway. Learning 1,2,3 gear before boosting to 6th. You’ll be fine on a 600.
It's all just knowing your limits and respecting the bike's power, no you shouldn't start on an r1 or a honda fireblade, but anyone with common sense would know that, but I've seen people start on gsxr 600s and 750s, I've seen people start on a cbr600rr, and the ones that turned out successful took care of themselves, wore gear, and respected the bike
Not starting on a 600 or may not even get one. Number one reason is INSURANCE. With my insurance it would be 150 a month. That’s too much for me. 300s are about 40 a month.
600 cc doesn’t really mean much when you say it. A 600 street bike can go 200 mph, a 600 super motor is a different story. A 600 naked bike is in between. Bottom like is if you start on a street bike it’s sketchy. Not saying you shouldn’t or can’t. It’s sketchy, no debate.
i got a cbr f3 carbed bike as my 1st bike, then a 07 r6 then a ninja 250 cause the deal was awesome and the bike was fuckin fun it was a 2010 and now have a 2016 zx6r, all fuckin awesome in their own way, my 2018 ktm sxf 250 the funnest tho.
You have owned one bike in youre entire life (and let's be real here the only reason you bought it is because of the way it looks) you have very little riding experience and you're tryna tell noobs to start on a 600.. you can't ride that bike like you think you can bro, try an fz07. Much more comfortable basically a better bike in every single way for a rider like you riding around town or anybody trying to start on something that's not dogshit slow. I've owned 2 Yamaha r6s trust me I know the appeal but when it comes to actually enjoying a motorcycle you may convince yourself that you love the r6 but I guarantee if you go ride other bikes you will change your opinion. If you aren't a track rider you're a poser if you own and ride one of these bikes around town. You can start on a 600 but you're going to learn slow ASF and there is very little room for error. Anything is possible but there are much easier and more practical ways to learn and buying a 600 is not easy, practical, or fun to be honest. Maybe for the first year or so daily riding it but you will soon realize the downfalls of the R6 how unbelievably uncomfortable and hot it is in traffic. Get a wr250, Fz07 guarantee you'll be much better off.
Im 22, one morning i woke up and decided i wanted a bike. Hoped on kijiji hit up a dude for an r6 went an bought it that day (i rode a yamaha wr250 like 6 years ago for 1 day btw) I rode the R6 1.5hrs home and i absolutely love it bike is fucking amazing. Its docile if you want it to be but that bitch wheelies easy off the line if your not careful
Cool video and very valid points. Start off on whatever you feel comfortable with really!
Great advice THANKS💯🤔
He's speaking facts though...i started on a 08 r6 raven the power band is very controllable, still own it its a great bike as long as you're responsible of course...
R6 vs zx6r? Surprised, you say a 6 is fine for responsible riders, but then say the zx will be too fast... 🤷🏻♂️
Gsxrs have ride modes though.. u don’t have to force it into low rpms it restricts itself . Good bud though !!! R6s kick ass
it's kind of foolish to say "the bike won't kill you, your choices will"
the whole point of being a fucking noob is you don't make good choices, the whole point of being a noob is you don't know that what you're doing is dangerous. when you are a noob riding around on a bike you don't have the experience to know the consequences of your actions and you don't have the ability to know "ok it's safe to wind it out here".
its like handing a child a loaded gun, they aren't aware and they will probably go one of two ways; either fear it or have no respect for it.
R6 power spike will scare the shit out of a noob rider mid corner if they lack experience. Just because someone bought a 300-400 to learn on and they're bored of it after a year does not mean it was the wrong choice, it means you've grown as a rider.
I got my motorcycle a week ago. Everyone said I would not be able to handle a 600 as my first bike. I feel like it's not enough power I thought it'd be faster lol
Sorry man but it's funny you talk about being responsible then skip a stop sign without stopping for a second, i realize you know that backstreet well and stuff, and no one goes back there really. But it's still a stop sign😂😂
You sound 12 kid. You love a 600 because you’re too weak for a man’s bike. 600 ONLY goes slow😂