Floyd Landis: Lance Armstrong’s drug test cover up
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- Floyd Landis details how he navigated contract negotiations with the U.S. Postal Service Pro Cycling team and how he orchestrated a move to the Phonak Cycling Team.
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Fascinating to listen to him honestly discussing what was going on. You can tell he is being 100% honest in his answers.
This guy is a good interviewer. Short, sharp, clear questions and no interruptions when the subject answers.
I think G.B. is simply the best interviewer out there, past or present.
After watching these interviews, I respect Landis a lot more. Just a crappy state of circumstances that became complicated through mirrors of information and unwritten rules in the sport.
Absolutely, didn't get a place in the team still willing to dope so he snitched... R e s p e c t!
He also wrote a whole book talking about his innocence, I see him pretty much just as bad as Lance
@@r6clips432 Yes Landis doesn't have a perfect history. But at least now he has come out and told the truth and revealed the reality of the situation, which we might have otherwise not known, even if he did it for his own personal retribution - it's still positive and desirable for the world to know the truth, and for the relevant people to be punished (I think they all should have been punished more but at least they were punished to some extent).
And really, Landis wasn't any more of an asshole than the other people he was riding with. They were all fucking cheating assholes who would bully and intimidate everyone else to cover up their lie. USA Cycling were in on the doping, and the UCI may or may not have been - they certainly willingly ignored indications of doping because they wanted to keep their gravy train going. Cycling at that time was basically a racket, run by a designated mafia.
So yes, Landis was an asshole and did bad things - but nothing worse than the assholes he helped take down. And Landis has apologised for many of the shitty things he did - he apologised to LeMond for example. Landis does seem like he actually feels remorse, unlike some of the other US Postal riders. And he has not attempted to keep himself relevant in cycling by any means necessary, doing some shitty podcast or trying to crowbar his way onto TV, unlike those same US Postal individuals.
@@pinarellosq2868 Armstrong was a cheat who couldn't do shit on a Grand Tour until he cheated, lmao. Got found out for the fraud that he is. Zero-time winner of the Tour de France, lol! 😂😂😂
@@dc8890 you're not a smart guy for what it seems
These are great interviews and just prove are difficult it must of been for anyone to race clean in those days.
Ted Edwards haha it almost sounds like you think it has changed?
"in those days"? haha
I had the pleasure of sharing a ride with Floyd a number of years ago .
Me an Floyd talked a bit about what life was like for him during those years .
He was extremely nice and opened about discussing some very challenging and difficult moments in his life and Cycling career .
Very brave of him to come foward and expose what many felt was actually going on
Good GUY ‼😎
This was really interesting and new information - perhaps the best segment of the interview.
Good to know about CTS. Was always curious about the (a) connection between Chris and Lance and (b) the legitimacy of CTS in general.
Floyd has so much more chaisma than Lance.
totaly respect for Floyd
Learn to spell. Are you that uneducated and ignorant, good lord women.
Carmichael & UCI got off pretty easy.Edit: pricks.
sounds like Floyd was dealing with a bunch of malignant narcissists
It is so ironic that all the people that claimed Armstrong was clean now say "well EVERYBODY was doing it so Lance is still cool" Do you understand how moronic that is?
I'm not trying to compete professionally, I just want to be strong.
I thought I knew most of the details of this era/scandal but these Landis interviews added even more to the overall picture.
I knew, that Chris Carmichael was phony.
Imagine all those poor saps who forked over a heap of cash to pay for his "coaching".
Phil Anderson Chris still has ads in Magazines touting training etc
Carmichael and Bruyneel were both bigtime frauds just like Dopestrong.
I raced with Chris Charmichael in the 80's....and he wasn't phony then, he was fast as hell.
@@ivanboesky1520 How is Bruyneel a fraud?
Dr. Ferrari...perfect name for a vilian.
If Lance had just changed his last name from Armstrong to Drugstrong, all the controversy surrounding him could have been avoided.
Pharmastrong
They all doped in that Era. It's a matter who was best at it and Lance was.
@RollinRat welcome to the world where not everyone is equally and not following the rules can get you ahead. Politicians are the worst at this so change that if you want to change something worth changing
I have as many Tour de France wins as Lance Armstrong
Doping is nothing new . In early 1900 organizers were supplying dope to riders . Lance did what he had to do to be able to compete with the rest of DOPERS ..... Like you Floyd , just like you . Except you did it in such a stupid way ....
Wow, I still have a lot of respect for this great bike rider, I read his book, but not as much respect as I had before I watched this video.
Always knew CTS was a big joke.
He was very much out for himself
What is not talked about is that cycling is a team sport and you work for the leader of the team and that is what your are hired to do. Many teams have trust building camps, doing exercises like having the leader fall backwards with a blind fold on and trusting that his team will catch him. If you accept the job and you do not like your leader, then who is to blame? How can you trust each other? Leader and the team? How is the coach to trust that the team will do the right thing for the chosen leader? Both Hamilton and Landis were strong riders, strong enough to go on and lead on their own. I cheered so hard for Landis on the slope of the Col De Joux Plane at Stage 17 of the 2006 Tour, it was amazing to see his come back ride. But after it was revealed that he doped huge to make it possible, I was deeply disappointed. To be honest, we knew he must have doped, but that he got caught. Being a rider who tried my best to put a good time in on the Col, it only pointed out that But at some point, I would hope that people raise their hands and explain things in real terms of sports. I am sure many team mates of Michael Jordan, Babe Ruth, Eddy Mercks, Bernard Hinault (OMG, are you kidding me, the Badger?) later come to hate them. But be real with yourself and your representation of how things were in the sport and how sports that are centric to a team leader. Here is a great clip on the conflicts of racing th-cam.com/video/MV0RnUk8jlg/w-d-xo.html.
LA is and was and always will be a world class.......jerk
Funny how i thought CC/CTS was a front back then to sell training biz. Just felt even as a kid that this guy couldn't be the mastermind behind this. -U10
Not excusing Lance by a long shot, but let’s not forget what Floyd Landis was. He was a willing participant in USPostal’s drug program. He was DQ’d from the Tour for doping. He lied about it all. He stole $2M from supporters for his ‘defense’ fund while continuing to lie about his PED use. He didn’t come clean until Lance wouldn’t give him a ride on his team for the Tour of California, and until he found out there was whistleblower money available. Thats when he became honest…to settle scores and make a buck.
Floyd Landis was a lying POS until he wasn’t.
Floyd time of murky waters has passed by...but I still respect and admire you for following your foundations and heart, thanks for saying NO to that f...."bully"!
Look, I get it, lance armstrong did steroids. But this guy really has it out for Lance. Floyd the snitch .
Nobody likes a snitch. Doesn’t really matter what the circumstances are or if it seems like the right thing to do. People are strange like that.
Armstrong made one mistake and that was to dismiss this guy, if he hadn’t nothing would have come out.
rigghhttt....
So that the mistake that he made? I think he made quite a few. It wasn’t a mistake, it was sheer arrogance. The same way as when he shopped Tyler Hamilton to UCI for doping after Tyler beat him on Mont Ventoux.
Looking for justice in Babylon but still liking money and fame shame on you little a..
'roids , 'roids , glorious roids !!
No it was blood transfusion testosterone and epo.
This doping in cycling and the corruption around it lies much deeper than Lance. Lance took the fall and deserved every inch of it, which means he was a small fish. I guess that is probably what really goads him. So, the question is why is he not spilling the beans.
Interesting how years into this and no one has gone to jail and probably never will.
KARMA CATCH,S UP TO YOU.THOSE EXPERTS AT DOPING WERE OBVIOUSLY NOT SO EXPERT.
Team USA gets a pass. All USA Olympics is Suspicious.
Lance the King of Cheating
Murvin Espinoza what the fuck is that profile picture
You ain't no better with that shitty profile pic of yours.
When I was a Jr. in high school, after 3 years of rowing, a recuiter/assistant coach from a major University approached me about rowing for them. He straight up told me that he could help me get into his university but I'd need to take steroids if I wanted to make the heavy weight crew. He said he was a R.N. and could provide them for me, if necessary. I promptly told him I wasn't interested in that. That was 1984. The college rowing teams were using PEDs already, way back then. 😔.
Floyd has grown to be comfortable in his own skin. He gives a fantastic interview here. Seems like a very grounded, legit dude.
pros are still doping it's ridiculous why call these guys out
Judah aka Snitch
once these guys were caught they will always deflect to Armstrong as though doping was his idea, but the reality is they were all doping before joining his team and doped after, but if you going to burn and theirs bigger target to push the blame on, human nature to add to those flames and not yours, Tyler Hamilton openly he admits he was doping before lance arrived on the scene and joining his team, David walsh admits Lance had to dope to compete with the rest of the riders that were already on EPO. So a cheat caught trying ti suggest he's a victim in anyway is worse. Even Tyler was caught and interview by FBI before he suddenly became honest.. or go to jail. out of everyone though Tyler is more honest and states the EPO was team run and in every team and not related to Lance at all until the teams got scared and made the riders carry their own meds etc. so all doped, all cheated and all were caught cheating, sad.
When did Tyler say he doped before Lance. I’ve just finished his book and that states that he first doped when with Lance on his team
Also the main points on this particular interview part aren’t really about doping. It’s other corruption.
Have you even read the books and listened to the full interviews? First, Tyler started doping on Lance’s team and continued when he left. Secondly, most of the people don’t hate Lance because he doped. I despise him because he is a hypocrite, a bully and has a moronic sense of entitlement. He fundamentally doesn’t have a sense of FairPlay and lacks any code of honor.
People who left his team because of his fear-led leadership, he reported to UCI FOR DOPING, hypocritical schmuck that he is. Ultimately he made one enemy too much who then took him down. Landis wasn’t going to blab if Lance had been nice to him in 2009 when he was trying to make his comeback. Not only Lance was not nice, he went out of his way to make sure Landis doesn’t get a team. That kind of power abuse led to his downfall and it’s so so well-deserved.
Yes read most of his stuff. First time he doped was in first pro team when doctor started giving him pills. He is honest about it and while he does his lectures he does try to talk about drugs in the sport as a whole rather than just lance but of course that’s the topic that’s sells. But if you watch his lectures or read his books he openly states when he started doping. Doping started early.
Pre 1897 deaths of Arthur Linton, Tom Linton and Jimmy Michael Dopping Bordeaux-Paris, Cocaine, Strychnine, Nitroglycerine were used. Anyone thinking it was a lance problem doesn’t know the history of the sport. Which is understandable. Bread and Water was not the norm in Europe pro league. Eddie Marx was banned he was before lance. Lance first win in Tour De France all top riders were banned that year for doping.
@@jamesmain_email6969 lol 😂 Tyler’s first pro team WAS US postal aka Lance’s team. But anyhow everyone agrees Doping isn’t a Lance problem. Lance gets the flak for being a hypocritical bully and he deserves it.
These guys already ride extremely lightweight bikes, best equipment available yet they have to dope. Money is the end result of this doping, it is that which corrupts them to cheat. UCI needs to bring back 10kg bikes and also limit teams to 4 riders. Pro Cycling has become a joke.
The weight of the bikes has nothing to do with it and you can't stop the technology to improove it's a dumb idea.
@@drefhill Lmao how many pro riders would do a complete tour on a 15 kg bike? not many. Bike weights are important to allow for faster speeds and easier climbing. The heaviest Tour de France bike was 12 kg back in 1908, and it was 10-11 kg for the next 60 years. How many people in 1908 had access to a 12 kg bike? practically no one except wealthy individuals, while everyone else rode 35 lb bikes. It took 100 years basically to have the masses be able to finally have 8 kg bikes. By masses its not the pro's who have the money to buy a $10000 bike. No one has ever rode a 15 kg bike in any Tour de France ever, heaviest was 12 kg. I do have a carbon bike and at 9 kg it is considered to heavy for Pro racing, meanwhile it feels like a joke riding vs my other 15 kg road bike as the weight makes that massive difference.
@@danfuerthgillis4483 the guy said 10kg not 15. and 15 would not change anything those guys are athletes a few more kilos would not change much it would just make them slower but in the end if they all have a 15kg bike it will not change much.
@@danfuerthgillis4483 what's you time on marathon and ironman by the way ? I guess you did the iron man on a 15 kilos bike. so what's your time ? You talk shit but accumulate fat in your sofa, so your credibility is down to 0. And read the shit you wrote, you contradict yourself saying the average bike was 15kg but no one could access a 15kg bike. Well i guess if it was the average most could access it.
but anyway doping has nothing to do with the bike weight.
And rigidity is more important than weight.
Monoï Marathon is around 4:10 hours ( normal jogging rate) which I stick to since I am more of a short distance sprinter and track cycling type body at 175 lbs. Don’t forget pro cyclists had 12 kg bikes back even in 1908, while everyone else either walked or used a 35 lbs bike. People have no clue what it takes to race yourself ( time trial) on a 15 kg road bike vs an aero 6.8 kg bike, for every pedal revolution you are pushing an extra 9 kg of weight plus non aero tubing, plus wind added in. Try it yourself and you see the difference is in minutes not seconds in just a 10 km time trial. I have a 8 kg carbon and it’s a joke riding that bike vs my other daily beater a 15 kg alloy as the weight difference is laughable ( both bikes on my channel if you care to look).
Only half the team were on the program
Floyd cracks me up man😂
Guy sounds really bitter!
I want some of those peds.
I wonder what he's doing for living nowadays???🤔
Known for his National Championship-winning time trials and DZNuts fame, Dave Zabriskie is a co-owner and co-founder of Floyd's of Leadville. A former teammate and longtime friend of Landis, Dave was one of the first to learn of the CBD empire Floyd envisioned.
😂😜
this interview is old it says in the description, from 2011
It seems obvious how Lance got away with so much since it seems Lance was tight with the UCI!
Creepy
Get some offers.... so he gets a half mil.... so they hmm about it.. talk about it.. come back and say ... okay we will match it...then he says you already missed your chance... so they are now pleading.. what do you want.. how about a 600k and get back on the program... no.. 1 million....... he was trouble....
The comments are so silly.
Is Lance your friend?
Is Floyd?
They both drugged. Everyone in cycling was.
Hate or love both you hypocrites.
SNITCHES GOT THE STICHES
He knew what he was doing, he got rich and famous off of it by riding with Lance then when he lost his nerve for it, he ratted Lance out. He's a snitch. It's not like he was David Walsh who legitimately was concerned about the corruption in cycling.
i would love to meet Floyd, it's unfortunate he at least told the truth, I totally respect him. cycling is a dirty spot, I don't know how Chris Froome gets away with it.
Can u please tell me how Froome gets away with it, and cite your evidence if possible??? Not having a go, as I like Frrome and would be disappointed if this may be true
Unfortunately, this always happens in sports like this. All the Russians and American track and field athletes get accused of it, Farah is getting accused of doping and now because of Armstrong Froome and Wiggo 'are doping'
Anon Ymous Ahhhh, the bootlicker cheater defender making another "hating" claim. Try using your single digit IQ, and come up with some original material loser. :-)
Aidan Millward Wiggo was most certainly a TUES doper, and likely far worse. And Froome is juiced as well.
Bob Gardner got any proof?
lance did something special, he used an ebike
Hopefully he's found a new Barber by now
I never liked Floyd the void landis Tried to blackmail lance to get on his team near the end of their cycling careers. What a jerk.
Sour grapes
Armstrong was obvious the bigger jerk of the 2 and yet I like Lance better. I’m not sure why.
maybe because you're a jerk too.
Sociopaths/narcissists are very charismatic, so that’s not a huge surprise. Just don’t ever cross them.
Super creepy interviewer... interesting by Floyd
Floyd is a bitch, a douche and a snitch. He'll always be remembered as a snitch.
How did he "snitch". under what circumstances?
This guy is sick ... got caught taking drugs now what's to be some hero ... it's all them it seems and he had nothing to do ... a victim ? No ways ... he was caught redhanded and pumped his fist on team bmc phonac... he is a real cheat and over dosed on drugged
What a disappointment Landis is, he is the one that got caught DOPING, then has to put the blame on Lance Armstrong. Landis had to blame his failures on everyone else but himself
Lance is and will always be the best athlete in pro cycling
Cyclists are drug rats not athletes.
@@robbanks4356 unlike all the other sports
Just let all professional athletes take drugs.
I’m not privy to cycling: did this guy dope as well? It sounds like he did. If so, why is he talking about lance Armstrong? Lol
He was nailed for too-high T. Its source was a massage cream. Cycling apoloigsts attempted to demean the recuperative capacity of Anabolic steroid use ove r24 hours, but that is exactly is advantage - T is instrumental in recovery speed, thus integral to next-day recovery in mountain and high-effert repeated TdF stages, as it is for allowing greater daily raining intensity in muscle building.
As you hear here, at least the US team was involved in dally blood-doping durig TdF, and so was Floyd.