Floyd Landis: Rules didn’t apply to Lance Armstrong
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- Floyd Landis shares stories of Lance Armstrong smuggling illegal drugs thru an airport, babysitting Lance’s refrigerated blood and the extreme measures the entire U.S. Postal Service Pro Cycling Team took to cheat the system during the Tour de France.
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Graham is the best listener in the history of television.
Better still....The best listener in the history of listening.Graham nust be married,its good listening training.
The way it should be!
Especially nowadays 👌
His personality helps tremendously. He looks laid back. He still puts in the work though.
That is a special skill. Remaining silent....
Both of these guys are easy to listen to. Both are humble and down to earth.
@@AnimalScienceTV
Agree
Lance is a sociopath and a pos other one is a human who made a mistake
He's so famous for doing such a massive breakaway in the Tour they call it "doing a Landis"
Morzine 2006, the stage 17. How can someone made a breakaway from more than a hundred kilometers to the finish line and still keep gaining more time to an entire peloton? I think we all knew the answer to that question inmediately. It was a surprise that the UCI let him finish that Tour, and didn't kick him out before the Champs-Élysées like Rasmussen the following year.
@@Videos-sobre-punhos-e-rodas they didn't kick him out mid race because they're even more corrupt than every doped rider who's even lived COMBINED. The UCI had to scrape every last cent off the bottom of the cess pool before their fake outrage and fake "We really want a clean race!" Bllsht. The UCI knew immediately Floyd was doped,but couldn't do anything because they'd have brought the hammer down on every team and would've had half a dozen riders still competing once they removed the entire malignancy from the dripping with dope peloton.
@@Videos-sobre-punhos-e-rodasHe also got somewhat lucky that Klöden and Pereiro had bad days. There was almost no organized chase from the peloton.
Landis is so straightforward and direct about it all. The truth is easy to tell.
2:58 especially that story about minding the medical fridge and the reasons for being there to mind it.
But Remember. They ALL Doped. A few had Better Conditioning and Training.
I agree the interviewer was very good. Didn't interrupt Landis and let him get his story out. It made for a really good interview
They say don't let the truth get in the way of a good story but these are good stories about the truth!!
“Whatever is going on in that room needs an explanation“ 😩 hilarious, I am using this - indeed 😉
2006 stage 17- the single most amazing sporting performance known to man. thanks floyd
@@theprodigalprophet well, ueli steck climbed the eiger northface in 2h 15minutes. and thats the most inhuman accomplishment ever.
@C R I had a friend who had 56 straight victories in UNO between July and September of 2012.
@C R if only it has been Tic Tac Dough!
Thanks to EPO
That actually proved all suspicions and allegations right after all. That ride was obviously inhumane😭🤣
Graham: I have a suggestion. Please make more of these + 10 minute videos instead of the 4 minute sound bite videos. I believe it would be more enjoyable to us because of continuity.
Kenneth Lucas he wants more views to get more money from TH-cam
Watch the playlists with autoplay turned on
Agreed!
Does he have his own tv show or just youtube?
Great interview
Thank you Floyd!
The fact that UCI, ICA, etc.. has not cleaned up the sport is proof they are allowing it.
Add to that the apparent wide level of use of performance enhacing products by top riders and teams, it majes you wonder why they bothered punishing any of them.
Floyd sounds like 1.25x speed and Graham sounds like 0.75x.
Cause he’s a fast cycling son of a gun 🤟🏽 the other guys a journalist
He is so direct, it is somehow admirable. I liked Tyler’s confessions as he feels strong emotions, but Landis goes into really explicit detail so you can picture exactly how it was really clearly. It is easy to think you or I would ignore it but probably I would be caught up in just the same way.
This sounds like what drug lords go through. Sounded really stressful.
One word: Tuco!
Best line: “it was clear that whatever was going on in that room needed an explanation.” LOL.
Very succinct talker, good guy to interview
Go Graham!
I have no more malice against this guy than any other rider in the tdf in the last 20 years. They all did/do it, and if you don't believe that you're kidding yourself. What Armstrong did was act like a mafia boss and doping police using intimidation, threats and extortion to serve himself. Most riders' ambitions are a danger to their own health, Armstrong was a danger to everyone else and a smug prick on top of that. I just feel sorry for the guys who end up realizing they have to dope to compete in the sport they love, because no one who didn't dope could compete at the top of the stage races that's for sure. They could either accept to never be among the best or they could dope like the best. I am still naive enough to hope that the problem is withering and Froome, Contador, Aru, Nibali etc. are the first generation of non-doped riders. That's probably a pipe dream though....
Holdin' yeah Armstrong really made a show of the whole thing.
He would've got more respect if he didn't bully everyone around him & publicly condemning doping while bragging about passing tests at that time.
If you're secretly doing something shady, at least give it the courtesy of not going around shaming it.
Holdin' Uh Contador has already been busted
Seymour Gray right you are. But he's sucked since then, so maybe he's too scared to do it now...
You were right in that it's a pipe dream. Froome, Contador, Aru, and Nibali are all doped to the max and are likely using motors as well.
DanielSong39 Got some proof?
This guy was hilarious in Saving Silverman
I'm going to give you credit since no one else did. Very clever sir.
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And "That Thing You Do"..
Gone gay with JD
WanderleiSilva29 I’m common to yeahhhehhhaya!
He left out one part about doping and comparing to training at altitude… the reason they don’t train for long periods of time at altitude is… increasing red blood cells via altitude vs adding via your own blood volume would be, the change in thickness (viscosity) when you dope, the blood stays thin. When training at altitude, you thicken the blood, thus create a slower diffusion rate of the O2 to the muscles.
As a Biochemist Ph D my view is, as long there is no detection - there is no accusation. Any Top Athlete will pay any price to win - to stay just below the detection. There never was and never will be any Honesty in high paying jobs anywhere...
That has to change then
Being a “biochemist Phd” is completely irrelevant.
@@Nightstalker321 absolutely true. More than completely!
Are you selling any custom sauce?
I'm a top level athlete looking to get rich.
@@trivellekoolaidrian6921 I am Selling Inner Strength Training. To train to endure poverty that comes from arrogance and greed. Icarus Effect. The Fall will be bad...
"You don't wanna stiff the guy that knows things about you like that."
Someone should have told Lance. LOL. All Floyd wanted was a ride.
Floyd obviously wasn’t good enough, a convicted drug cheat and a bitter loser. That’s why he didn’t have a ride on any team anywhere.
Roger C
You obviously don’t know shit Roger
Yeah, not like Armstrong, haha.
Landis got caught right? Armstrong was still unsoiled... So what if Armstrong shuns him.?...that's no excuse to snitch..Get killed for snitching... Armstrong never shafted him .. ie he got himself busted right..... ?>
Bruyneel explained it for the most part in 30 for 30 recently. Also, LA's attitude toward Landis got in the way, too, stuff from 2002 when FL was riding for LA.
Met Floyd one time, he was sitting at a booth all alone at the finish of a stage of the Tour of California in Santa Rosa. It was after he got busted and Levi and Lance were racing together. Yeah, right before Levi went rat. Such a stark contrast. Floyd all alone. No one wanted an autograph or nothing. Levi on the podium.
Picking up and putting the blood bag in your jersey pocket at the stage finish is legendary !
agree, he would've needed a tag-along for his gonads.
Great hair.
Regular people knew, especially cycling fans in France who watched Lance scale hills without getting out of breath. There was a dry bridge over the tour route, and scores of French fans would gather to spit on Armstrong as he pedaled below.
Comme J'aime les Francais! I knew at "the look"...and would have spat at my own countryman.
Apparently the rules didn't apply to Landis either because he used performance enhancing drugs as well.
I want to know how anyone can complete the tour de France without doping.
No.
Landis tested positive = banned for two years and stripped of his title
Armstrong tested positive = waived away with a fraudulent doctor's slip (and likely a bribe to the UCI) and wins multiple tours
That story about the jersey at the end is incredible lol
Lance Armstrong’s Nemesis , seems like he’s telling the Complete Truth
I traveled to France for the 2004 TDF. I was on a bike tour that followed the TDF from Marseille to Paris. I remember my adoration of this lying POS that shit on his best friends and tried to bully and destroy anyone who questioned his authenticity. Betsy Andreu is one of my hero's.
You see how guys like Floyd and George Hincape engaged in cheating, and how contrary their dishonorable conduct was to their likable personalities, and to think they were corrupted doing their sport makes it doubly disappointing. The whole point of sport is that winners are determined by fair competition. Now Armstrong’s enablers seem to be trying to put that whole disgraceful era behind them, but they never will because they betrayed their fans and dishonored their sport.
Great interview..but it seems like Grahams voice is stuck on .75 speed...
Post this full interview please
Graham...have you ever done an interview with Lance?
all riders are cheaters. there is no such thing as a clean rider anymore. shame. i have no respect for the sport anymore.
j en
Not cheating if everyone does it
It's not sport, it's entertainment. That's why they allow the doping. Before and now.
@@stevenichols4639 i guess so. that's why i don't bother, but it sure does explain the live fan behaviour. i prefer sport. look elsewhere for that, not the "greatest race in the world " , the TDF
they should rename tour de faux roulers
They are gaming the system. They push the boundaries. The #1 goal of sports is not the athletes, it is to make money.
Puts a whole new spin on the term cycle season....blast n cruise.
These stories about doping make me physically ill. The risks they were taking... It seems insane, TBH.
Lance's second biggest mistake after coming out of retirement and returning to the TDF, was turning his back on Floyd. He just wanted a spot on the team in any role but Lance wasn't smart enough to realize that Floyd could expose every detail of the procedure.
Yea, if he just found another hobby instead of going back to Astana things would've turned out very differently. He would've always been under suspicion but things would not have unraveled and he'd still have all his tour wins registered. Made his choice and he lost.
@@plantbasedanalyst6263 if
Graham, you're awesome
Why there no interview who was on it with team sky
Yeah, where is the Team Sky Interview?
Landis seems pretty genuine. Hamilton's characterization of him in The Secret Race-his honesty and willingness to take moral stands-must have meant he was a risk from the beginning in that competitive climate of doping for results. It'll be interesting to hear his completely truthful accounts of the era.
"It'll be interesting to hear his completely truthful accounts of the era.
" lol
ALWAYS stand up for yerself….regardless how bad my life is now because of it, AT LEAST I KNOW I DID THE RIGHT THING!
And we're seeing a repeat of that with Chris Froome and Team Sky. Enjoy the show!
....Quite Possibly .....
Anon Ymous And what about now?
You don't understand anything.
Thanks ! I will !
Froome had "32t mini pizza rear cassette", while Lance only had 25t. Both are good riders, it is just one is more manly than the other enhancement or not aside.
1:00 why is he smiling like it’s something to be proud of??
Nervous smile.
I was living in Murrieta, Ca, Floyd's hometown, during his Tour De France win, which was in 2006, even though, up until that time, I was living just outside of Murrieta in Temecula. They had banners up all over the town, dedicated to and praising Floyd. Even though I knew something was wrong about the whole situation, I didn't give it too much thought. But as soon as he was found out, which was later that year, if I'm not mistaken, those banners came down faster than a fat man on a water slide. Needless to say, his name wasn't even uttered, at least not in a good way, in town since. I currently live about 15min outside of Murrieta and the impact still resonates.
Floyd's hometown is just outside Lancaster , Pa and moved west in his early 20's. Seems as though you didn't give anything much thought.
That 2-successive day ride at the top was a red flag - it just doesn't happen in any high calorie consumption endurance activity.Even before the positive T-test, I knew and quit watching.
I knew years b4 Armstrong got busted he as doping. The regimen he was doing was beyond nuts !!! Not a normal training session.
Lance was quite an accomplished cheater. He'll be remembered as the greatest fraud in sports history.
Moral of the story, 70% of cyclists dope and life ain't fair.
So true! And it gets even more unfair if you're one of those who won't use drugs.
J. I just wanted to be entertained. And I damn sure was for 7yrs.
@@tx1iron People like you are utterly pathetic.
@@dc8890 Thanks. Interesting handle.
@@tx1iron So you don't care if a cheating psychopath defrauds the public, his sponsors, and race organisers of millions of dollars? You don't mind if this guy hounds clean riders, like Christophe Bassons, out of the peloton? You don't mind this guy bald-face LYING to the public for YEARS AND YEARS, denying he took drugs when he was on them all the time, just so he could enrich himself? You don't mind this guy trying to actively DESTROY the lives and businesses of those who spoke the truth, such as Greg LeMond (America's greatest cyclist and only American Tour de France winner), Emma O'Reilly (Armstrong's soigneur who spoke the truth), and Betsy Andreu (wife of Frankie Andreu, who rode on the US Postal team)? I'm guessing you're not a cyclist yourself, otherwise I don't think you'd be very happy about a cheating criminal destroying your sport and trying to actively destroy the lives of honest competitors. And perhaps you're not even a human being, because I don't understand why a human being would think that criminal behaviour of this kind is okay.
He acts like he was shocked that strong was doing it? What
Every team was on it . Watched another interview Lance didn’t even need it
The customs at the airport do not enforce the doping rules. The title of the video implies that Armstrong was favoured by the cycling authorities, but this interview does not explicitly allege that. Is there actual evidence that Armstrong enjoyed an advantage, with regard to unfair application of the rules?
I think its more that some of the drugs were illegal I presume. Most customs would at least investigate a bunch of syringes
It seems weird to me that Floyd Landis is shamed for being honest. Also, bit strange that people question his knowledge and who he is. Maybe educate yourself before you judge? He knows what he's talking about.
Probably being shamed for being a grass.
He knew, but so did all of the other team mates and the rest of everyone else involved with the team. Landis was a sore sport because he got caught and then decided to bring heat on everyone.
He cheated and got caught. Then instead of sucking it up tried blackmailing everyone around him whom he knew had cheated and didn’t get caught. When they left him as the cancer he is then he exposed them all to try and make money. Yeah great guy I’d really love to hang out with someone so untrustworthy.
People don’t like him for ratting
he flipped his story too many times and then tried to sell a book. he looked and sounded shady
Look , the bottom line is this, Lance, Floyd it makes no difference they all cheated and got caught . And of course they're gonna talk their heads off or try to start a blog site. Remember, the more we keep this case alive, the more we have to indure this mess.
Dial Robinson at least Floyd holds his hands up and says he did it. Armstrong tried everything he could to deflect the blame away from himself.
Floyd lied, denied, even wrote a book proclaiming his innocence. Not unlike all the rest. Lance had a big ego, but Floyd was a fn snitch.
You don't have to endure anything...you can just not pay any attention and move on with your life unless someone is holding a gun to your head. Get a life man..
@@ozarkian84 what are you part of the cosa nostra? get real with that whole snitch thing. This guy lost everything and so what if he told on that arrogant prick LA...give me a break the foundation of that whole team was built on quick sand. You need to get your head out of the dark age man.
If everyone doped during that era. Lance was still the champ, Landis got caught in 2006 and he could not shut down the doubt as well as Lance could. He still wanted to rejoin Lance after 2 years of suspension and get the band back together. Lance just did not want to be associated with Landis anymore after he was so easily to get caught. I still think Landis should have remained quiet and not tarnish Lance's Legacy just because he got rejected by Lance in 2009. On the other hand, I have also enjoyed the true story.
Like others have said, the infamous stage 17 was one of the best sporting moments ever! As long as there are sponsorship and money in sport there will be cheating. Cycling has a mere fraction of the money other sports have, no one could convince me that the NBA, NFL, etc aren’t full of doping, just have more money to be on the cutting edge to stay ahead of testing. One reason I hated that pro athletes were allowed in the Olympics.
If the UCI wanted to stop dopers, they’d put lance in charge of catching them.
99%+ of them were taking enhancements........ lance just happens to b the 7 time winner
Man thanks for finally asking what the benefits were.
Wow I really liked this
You should watch "the program". It's basically how David walsh exposed LA. REALLY great.
Jolene Davies I’ve seen it and I really did like it
I question the motives of commenters who come here to watch this, make excuses for one of sport's most notorious cheats and liars (in a sport riven by cheating, the lying is the thing), attack a couple of whistleblowers and then say to people who _clearly_ came to listen to Landis, "Nothing to see here."
One of the problems with trying to defend the indefensible is, you can't smoke your specious horseshit past everyone, and in targeting people who are watching what you'd prefer they didn't watch, you're pissing up a rope.
If your motives are more pure, why comment? Because you think a stand up comedian has infallible logic?
Nx Doyle
Armstrong finished first seven times in the tdf. Doping was de facto part of the game.
Floyd Landis is the Jose Canseco of cycling.
pretty good comparison
All these guys were on chemicals ...-all drinking the T ......
Big lies require doing it in your face.
He brings up expense. One of my friends said he was approached by Levi’s doctor, and told him he could put him on that program, $32k... well, that was the entirety of his contract, he had to pass.
well, I really hoped that there was a normal police guy that gave him a ticket. And if I was on duty on that time, i probably just said that I don´t know him, just to piss him off. , like djt, if you don´t know him, he ticks. because it is everything about him
LMAO like Floyd wasn't juiced up, that breakaway on TDF 1 day after he was dying on a course. What a fucking joke, let them dope themselves, then we'lll see who's the best and who can run/swim/ride the fastest
Lance has psychopathic / sociopathic tendencies,even now I don't believe he is sorry for what he has done only sorry for himself that he got caught.
Just think about all the people who would have won races, but didnt, because of all the dopers. Lance Armstrong used to be a hero of mine. He is a pig for going along with all the other pigs who doped. I couldn't care less that he couldn't win unless he doped. The question isn't, " Who is the most skilled athlete?" The question is , "Who is the best doper?" Lance Armstrong was the best doper, and he is a pig.
this guy would have won more tdf than lance if the status quo wasnt rattled..floyd was a unit and a prey mantis kung fu time trial disciple. he and tyler thought they could just leave usps and use postals tech but lance went into war mode. crazy time. i have fond memories of floyd at a few east coast mtb nationals doing wheelies on some small frame builder bike with a bent top tube and he used riser bars..warmed up doing wheelies up the first climb..then destroyed everyone. no drugs necessary.
Or you could have a shorter tour de france. Quarter distance?
Or UCI could relax its insistence on century-old frame dimensions, and allow the machine to evolve as well as the rider.
Is it possible to go to the moon without taking EPO?
Reminds me of Mordecai off Regular Show
Who is this Lance guy?
Anybody else think that everything that has happened to this guy has made him just a little bit off/odd? Or he could just be that socially awkward
Probably bc he grew up Amish...
@@SklLLLY fair point, didn’t know that
Yeah he’s from Lancaster Pa. If you live near there like I do. It’s obvious. Definitely a guarded type of ppl. He’s actually pretty open.
lol obviously at the time we didn't know any of this but man these guys sure must have hated Lance Armstrong back then...but they kept it under wraps
Actually we knew a lot of this at the time but we were quick to push all the evidence under the rug and call out the French press as "jealous haters". We should've looked in the mirror instead...
Until the shit hit the fan & they all ratted Lance out & became grasses.
@@DanielSong39 That's one of the best comments I've read regarding this topic. And it certainly doesn't apply to Armstrong supporters only...
I think you missed the point. They were all doing it. No one hated Lance he was just doing the same as them.
Do they still dope? If so how have the numbers changed in race times?
the cat is out of the bag
2006, morzine. Landis Destroyed the whole peleton while riding for phonak. No lance of US postal Involved. Same with Hamilton riding for Riis. Both like to blame everyone but themselves.
Boo Hoo we all cheated with drugs but still sucked dam Armstrong! LMAO!
With the level of doping by thr majority of riders, the playing field was.pretty much leveled, and he still beat them. Either he had better "dope", or he was better than them.
You can’t handle the Truth!!!
The level of paranoia is startling.
I needed to throw up..Thanks TH-cam and Landis🤮🤮for suggesting this video
Thank you for helping bring down the dopers.
Flyod scammed everyone with his appeal for donations to help him with legal fees even though he was guilty.
That’s really low
I’m becoming a big fan of this guys and how he interviews and the questions he asks. I would just ask that maybe not smile when your asking serious questions. Just a tip. Big fan. Just seen it multiple times in your videos. Thanks for the future content. Try the hip hop world.
The flip flop world? No thanks, enuff people interviewing those guys.
We want to hear great stories from great talent, not some hood beef between boys who never grew into men, and that's most of those guys. Not all, but most. A lot of these guys have qualities people can aspire to or inspire in their kids, there's nothing about the hip hop life or its stars that equals the work these athletes have done. Nothing.
TRIATHLETE,S HAVE A SIMILAR METHOD FOR GAINING THE ADVANTAGE,ESPECIALLY IN THE IRONMAN COMPETITION,S.
"Only your friend know your secret, so only "e" could reveal it." -Bob Marley
Rules don’t apply to Team USA?
From what's been brought to light, ut appears they didn't apply to many teams, especially top teams.
They should just make all the doping legal. Most of them seem to do it anyway and it’s totally unfair to the honest athletes. Then, at least the competition will be better. Kind of like NASCAR or formula one except it’s the human body your souping up. If you have the best doping program and training you have a better to chance to win.
For those with eyes look at the riders bodies from the 1950's and 60's!! they were fit, healthy and had much bigger legs than any of the current crop of PRO's. They rode heavier bikes, crappy equipment, crappy tires, crappy dirt roads and no helmets!! The 1970's was all downhill with Drugs starting to be use heavily. In 2018 Pro cyclists look like 80 year old man on tricycles LMFAO.
Danfuerth Gillis
Those riders were also hopped up on drugs. Don’t kid yourself.
@@JK-vc7ie Merely different drugs. Notice how the present uses more feeding and much more hydration, and how the riders retain fat way into season, even into the big stage races.. Uphill takes you down, and one can't win unless at low bodyfat there. Methamphetamines were once the drug of choice, but can cause catastrophic systemic failures.
Speed also measurably decreases neural and glial composition, and causes greater loss of both types of brain cells.
I keep up with neuroimaging research for correlative purposes in cognitive science , and can tell you now, that that is why competitors using such substances have a lower mean lifespan than the norm, and that using individuals rarely reach old age with strong cognitive capacities when they survive beyond average at all.
Such issues as efficient insulin response affect health in other ways as well, and organs like liver and kidneys are susceptible over time to artificially interfering with one's responses, which self-train naturally over time; artificial interference tends to introduce molecules one'sself-system recognize as foreign, scarring those and some other organs, causing early death.
Life is an adventure, and being early demented precludes understanding of the astonishing excitement inn a complex world.
As a professional in a sport and art requiring extreme reflex coordination and neural response, since teen years and into middle age, I immediately recognized upon trial the deleterious effects of cannabis, alcohol, and other drugs, choosing instead to strive for aware excellence.
Self-blood doping assists in endurance sports, and is the safest method of cheating in sport (this was known since 1960s Finn Lasse Viren's use), But I do not recommend it, as cheating itself creates what can be described accurately as a self-induced psychological dementia, form which it is difficult to recover later, if at all.
they had bigger legs = steroids. watch old videos of them steamrolling like a freight train up the mountains at very low cadence and rocking their bodies in rhythm. the amount of torque pumping out of their legs for such long periods of times only possible with biological aide.
Wow Lance was not only a cheat, but a despicable crook.
A cheater complaining about a better, faster, stronger, cheater. Just.... wow.
Lance was not better, he just was more heavily doped up than other riders .. don't be so naive to idolise him, he was the ringleader who stored those bags of blood in his own home, of course he has easy access to be the most heavily doped up one and other riders had to let him win as they depended on him to provide dope ... he would allow them to win occasionally some off races but he woule be the one winning the whole tour as the doping ring leader...
Super narcissist entitlement, Lance thought he was above the laws of Earth!
Don't know what's so weird about this - I thought everyone had an EPO-spiked blood fridge?
The (cycling) world is a much better place without these crooks. Floyd may be one poor soldier, yet he's doing this interview, because he got caught.
The disgruntled sidekick.
There’s no honor among thieves
Does anyone think Floyd wasn't doping as well?
At the very top of this segment, with the title card and "In 2003, tell about the time you were stopped by customs agents..." I had to hit pause because I was almost convinced that the playback speed was 0.75x. So I checked it, realised it was normal, then slid back to the top. Without the possible benefit of sounding and looking slowed down, Bensinger comes across like a fucking stroke victim. And if you _do_ drop it back to 0.5x, it's great.
Lance is the best
Sad.