This was used by the Beatles, Pink Floyd and is a very British technique. That is why Depeche Mode with Alan Wilder sounded like that, you have a proxy sound with the effect. That way the original sound is intelligible. Thank you for teaching this. When you have a good Audio Engineering teacher, they teach you this. That is why many old records sound amazing, is not the technology but the technique.
Absolutely true. It is a particularly British technique. Off-topic- Gahan was talking about a DM record with no artificial reverb, or miniscule amounts. I just can't remember which album. But all the reverberant spaces were real spaces - in fact in the video in question, DM members 'visit' some of the reverberant spaces they used.
In the University I attended they called stuff like this “Dark Arts”. Division of frequencies, dynamics, and color has infinite possibilities. Thanks for sharing. You are definitely one of the best producers in the TH-cam content creator world
I like to put it like this: when making music, your "working space" or "canvas" has several dimensions. Silence to full volume, left to right, background to foreground, frequency from lowest to highest, and most importantly, and I can't stress this enough: *time*. Learn their relations and separations, and use it to your advantage. The easiest way to separate elements is by time. Don't play bassdrum and bass together, unless you know how to separate them in another dimension - for example frequency, the second easiest. And so on.
Great tut with great advice. I compose orchestral scores and this is very useful when dealing with choirs and ambient strings and percussion. Makes it feel ethereal and haunting
this is a huge layer of quality I never really thought about. will probably become standard in my productions now. this is one of the effects in music I always loved but never knew how they did.
I just wanna say I love your style and calm/ no-ego delivery. You're such a mellow dude with incredible production insight - I really appreciate you and your videos!
As a self taught producer that's been working for almost 10 years now, it's always cool to see these types of tricks that i found along the way being used by others too
Ohhhh really liked that extra pitch bend on the reverb at the end there. Always something new to learn no matter how long you’ve been producing. Great video brother 👍🏼
Incredible video. Top tier presentation and so insightful. I'm also going to enrol in your course: It's exactly the thing I've been looking for for years, I just couldn't find the right resource until now. Production has always been the weakest element of my music, so I'm really excited to improve it! Thank you so much for this!
This channel was an instant subscribe for me. I need to thank you for all this brilliant stuff, they really changed the game for me. This video opened my mind in this area like never before. This is the type of thing that you don't know that exists and that it's important until you see it. When I saw this video (and a lot more from you) I went to my actual project and spent on it like 15 hours transforming it with your lessons (literally an all-day work) and the results were INCREDIBLE. I feel that I have grow up my project more in one day than in one month. I really appreciate your work, man. Keep going!
I also sometimes add reverb of the main voice, only with reverse phase - to subtract these frequencies from the pseudo-reverb. This adds a natural quality to the pseudo-reverb.
This was such a great tip! I wouldn't have thought to use a different sound altogether for reverb. Also, the reverb pitch bend definitely answered a question I didn't realize I had.
Your EQ shaping idea is like something I figured out about natural reverb: natural reverb actually can have an EQ to it. I bought a guitar pedal for reverb to use on a mic, and on my mic, I was like "what is going on with my mic? I sound very trebly all of the sudden?" It took me a lot of time before I realized that it was the guitar pedal. It also took me a lot of time to realize that it was the guitar pedal simulating actual reverb more than the reverb I was using before. After gaining some experience, I found out that many plugins actually have an effect of EQ (or what we perceive as EQ), and that you might have to EQ occasionally to tame down the sound. This video made me realize things I could try simulating when adding reverb. The +1 octave almost was like there was a metal plate in the room. The mid frequencies you demoed sounded along the lines of that guitar pedal. It's such a cool idea. Abbey Road studios actually has an EQ room that has speakers, mics, and concrete pillars. Sound bouncing off metal might sound different than sound bouncing off wood vs sound bouncing off concrete. So cool
You know, Big Z, I am always finding great ideas on your channel. As a longtime musician (I mean LONG time), my music/writing is so different from yours, but I think much the same about experimenting and using the tech tools as you do. However, you continue to come up with production and arranging ideas that I missed. Brilliant content good sir. Thank you for sharing your wisdom.
This is like a nice level above side-chaining, real nice stuff! I'm a huge dork and I like the dry sound more so the whole time I sat there thinking all this effort was for nothing, but the splitting of frequencies was really smart
Am I the only one who thinks that the song is a banger? It sounds really great, my fav part is where the bass note goes lower and it just hits that "this is so satisfying to listen to" part in your heart.
Noice.. Been doing this with outputs and knobs for years... Such a true way to get movement.... People should appreciated this bit of magic you've shared....
Biz Z. Very professional, useful video. Manipulating the pitch of a wet audio signal is indeed difficult but if you stick with it - sometimes you can make it work. Excellent video.
Thank you so much!!! I found one interesting trick about reverb of vocal. If you don't want too much sand or high frequencies in the reverb itself - you can create an automation line that sends the signal to the reverb channel, but this automation line can cut off the sibilants! This is how you can create very rich voice reverb, but without annoying sounds that will just make it muddy! =)
I've done this a few times. I used this concept because I thought it worked in that particular instance. You're right though, I should probably utilize this technique more often.
yeah man this is top tier. thanks for the tip. Just made me think of space in a new way. Do you have any videos / courses on how to create space with different delay lengths? Also do you have videos going over what different reverbs do to the space of a track?
Super excellent techniques. I've achieved--mostly by accident--the first level, but not the more advanced. Gives me something fun to try...in my spare time. ☺️ Thanks!
ok this track is sick and i honestly dont usually watch your content but the stuff you do is really freaking awesome man i really appreciate what your doing keep it up 🙌
I always do that to my vocals and bass But i turn dow so that listeners don’t hear it but feel it. But i wasn’t on that stage of applying it to my synths Well done 👏
If its the same note, the harmonics are all integer multiples, that isn't a different sound, it will still clash with the original. The sidechaining is what removes the clashing.
I would bend the reverb synth up in some case of the vocal melody. Or 2 different where one moves up and the other down at the same time.. or fade to reverb synth to a completely different..
I got Ableton 11 and man it seems to be built for Electronic music. I still have Logic and love the newer updates but God damn Ableton is really good too.
This was used by the Beatles, Pink Floyd and is a very British technique. That is why Depeche Mode with Alan Wilder sounded like that, you have a proxy sound with the effect. That way the original sound is intelligible. Thank you for teaching this. When you have a good Audio Engineering teacher, they teach you this. That is why many old records sound amazing, is not the technology but the technique.
Absolutely true. It is a particularly British technique.
Off-topic- Gahan was talking about a DM record with no artificial reverb, or miniscule amounts. I just can't remember which album. But all the reverberant spaces were real spaces - in fact in the video in question, DM members 'visit' some of the reverberant spaces they used.
In the University I attended they called stuff like this “Dark Arts”. Division of frequencies, dynamics, and color has infinite possibilities. Thanks for sharing. You are definitely one of the best producers in the TH-cam content creator world
Damn Bro, you went to Hohwarts?!
You’re a wizard!
I like to put it like this: when making music, your "working space" or "canvas" has several dimensions. Silence to full volume, left to right, background to foreground, frequency from lowest to highest, and most importantly, and I can't stress this enough: *time*.
Learn their relations and separations, and use it to your advantage. The easiest way to separate elements is by time. Don't play bassdrum and bass together, unless you know how to separate them in another dimension - for example frequency, the second easiest.
And so on.
check out Mr bill.
@@ropeburn6684do you post content anywhere?
Great tut with great advice. I compose orchestral scores and this is very useful when dealing with choirs and ambient strings and percussion. Makes it feel ethereal and haunting
this is a huge layer of quality I never really thought about. will probably become standard in my productions now. this is one of the effects in music I always loved but never knew how they did.
I just wanna say I love your style and calm/ no-ego delivery. You're such a mellow dude with incredible production insight - I really appreciate you and your videos!
Thanks man, appreciate you watching!
As a self taught producer that's been working for almost 10 years now, it's always cool to see these types of tricks that i found along the way being used by others too
Guy’s a complete professional❤
Ohhhh really liked that extra pitch bend on the reverb at the end there. Always something new to learn no matter how long you’ve been producing. Great video brother 👍🏼
100% going to try something like this. I love learning new DAW techniques
Your content is miles above all these other tiktok "producer gurus". Also that vocal sounds incredible
Incredible video. Top tier presentation and so insightful. I'm also going to enrol in your course: It's exactly the thing I've been looking for for years, I just couldn't find the right resource until now. Production has always been the weakest element of my music, so I'm really excited to improve it! Thank you so much for this!
woah SMB hi :3
Amen!🙏
Me too
No way it’s the king himself??
You literally dropped a masterclass on reverb....no lengthy trash ❤🔥
This channel was an instant subscribe for me. I need to thank you for all this brilliant stuff, they really changed the game for me. This video opened my mind in this area like never before. This is the type of thing that you don't know that exists and that it's important until you see it. When I saw this video (and a lot more from you) I went to my actual project and spent on it like 15 hours transforming it with your lessons (literally an all-day work) and the results were INCREDIBLE. I feel that I have grow up my project more in one day than in one month. I really appreciate your work, man. Keep going!
I also sometimes add reverb of the main voice, only with reverse phase - to subtract these frequencies from the pseudo-reverb.
This adds a natural quality to the pseudo-reverb.
This was such a great tip! I wouldn't have thought to use a different sound altogether for reverb. Also, the reverb pitch bend definitely answered a question I didn't realize I had.
theres not much blowing my mind these days when watching tutorials but your tutorials are so creative and actually worth something. It's just true
bro you're always coming up with super helpful stuff that makes me excited to produce, thank you...not to mention your songs just keep getting better
Your EQ shaping idea is like something I figured out about natural reverb: natural reverb actually can have an EQ to it. I bought a guitar pedal for reverb to use on a mic, and on my mic, I was like "what is going on with my mic? I sound very trebly all of the sudden?" It took me a lot of time before I realized that it was the guitar pedal. It also took me a lot of time to realize that it was the guitar pedal simulating actual reverb more than the reverb I was using before.
After gaining some experience, I found out that many plugins actually have an effect of EQ (or what we perceive as EQ), and that you might have to EQ occasionally to tame down the sound.
This video made me realize things I could try simulating when adding reverb. The +1 octave almost was like there was a metal plate in the room. The mid frequencies you demoed sounded along the lines of that guitar pedal. It's such a cool idea. Abbey Road studios actually has an EQ room that has speakers, mics, and concrete pillars.
Sound bouncing off metal might sound different than sound bouncing off wood vs sound bouncing off concrete. So cool
You know, Big Z, I am always finding great ideas on your channel. As a longtime musician (I mean LONG time), my music/writing is so different from yours, but I think much the same about experimenting and using the tech tools as you do. However, you continue to come up with production and arranging ideas that I missed. Brilliant content good sir. Thank you for sharing your wisdom.
This is like a nice level above side-chaining, real nice stuff! I'm a huge dork and I like the dry sound more so the whole time I sat there thinking all this effort was for nothing, but the splitting of frequencies was really smart
I’ve never seen anyone else teach this on, TH-cam, excellent content big Z! Thank you, sir!
I always shape my reverb with an external EQ instead of in the reverb plugin itself. Glad I'm not the only one who does this. Dope vid Z!
Bro, I'm absolutely mindblown by how simple, short but yet interesting and innovative this video is
Am I the only one who thinks that the song is a banger? It sounds really great, my fav part is where the bass note goes lower and it just hits that "this is so satisfying to listen to" part in your heart.
Just tried this on a NanoStudio track and holy shit it works great! Killer tip and so flexible
Noice.. Been doing this with outputs and knobs for years... Such a true way to get movement.... People should appreciated this bit of magic you've shared....
Been producing for a long time and hadn't come across this before. Totally AWESOME!! Thank you.
You're brilliant sir. Watching a true Artist at work here. Thank you!
finally a reverb trick that isn’t just ducking 🔥
Freanking brilliant! Than you :)
What's good Big Z? Happy New Year dude, glad to see you still making tutorial & tip videos!
He so good at explaining a 4 year old could follow along, good shit
😎 tweaks. Thanks for sharing this advanced stuff..
I was actually struggling to make a cool reverbed lead, this was very convenient thank :)
You are awesome! Thank you for doing these
Thank u Big man, great technique fr🥶
Biz Z. Very professional, useful video.
Manipulating the pitch of a wet audio signal is indeed difficult but if you stick with it - sometimes you can make it work.
Excellent video.
i love tricks like this, so simple yet so effective, thank you for sharing!
Thank you so much!!!
I found one interesting trick about reverb of vocal. If you don't want too much sand or high frequencies in the reverb itself - you can create an automation line that sends the signal to the reverb channel, but this automation line can cut off the sibilants! This is how you can create very rich voice reverb, but without annoying sounds that will just make it muddy! =)
Amazing... some of the best musical information on TH-cam.
Damn even some years ago when I watched your videos the production quality was good, but you've still grown a lot since!
ohhhh this is excellent! 🤩
I've done this a few times. I used this concept because I thought it worked in that particular instance. You're right though, I should probably utilize this technique more often.
Wow can’t wait to experiment with these concepts, awesome!
Just implemented this on my newest track. Gave my lead exactly what it needed. Great stuff man. Thank you!
Waooo thank you so much ❤❤
wow this really suprised me, awesome tips my guy! thank you very much.
Bro you course plug in the video was smooth af haha love it 🫶🏼
yeah man this is top tier. thanks for the tip. Just made me think of space in a new way.
Do you have any videos / courses on how to create space with different delay lengths?
Also do you have videos going over what different reverbs do to the space of a track?
Amazing trick. Thank you so much for sharing this valuable information :)
It's also cool to hook up two synths via midi, can achieve similar/same effect
Best tips and tricks ive ever seen. Gamechanger!
Love that. You can really apply this to so many different things...
Instead of using reverb use reverb…
LOL
@@bionikpulseit does sound good though
*Ton of reverb
Steve doesn’t get it
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Great idea and explanation! Thanks! As always it is about the effort you are willing to put into the details that separates amateur from pro tracks!
😮😮This guy Always have dangerous tricks👍👍
Absolute perfect tips for reverb I have ever seen 🖐 good job man
I just learned something epic! Thank you! Video perfect length too
Super excellent techniques. I've achieved--mostly by accident--the first level, but not the more advanced. Gives me something fun to try...in my spare time. ☺️ Thanks!
Haha fantastic technique, concise professional communication
I like your style Big Z
This is legit amazing. I would have never told anyone. Ty for be generous with your knowledge :)
this tutorial is freaking dope. like super good. wow
You have the best EDM tutorials 💯 always droppin gems 💎 my G!
This is a great idea! Can’t wait to try this out myself! Thanks so much for sharing this! ❤
ok this track is sick and i honestly dont usually watch your content but the stuff you do is really freaking awesome man i really appreciate what your doing keep it up 🙌
Great tips! Love your clean presentation and workflow, nice work!
one of the best tutorials i've seen in a while thank you
I always do that to my vocals and bass
But i turn dow so that listeners don’t hear it but feel it. But i wasn’t on that stage of applying it to my synths
Well done 👏
Big Z, knocking it out the park. Have been wondering about this for ages. Thank you for this fantastic explanation! ⚡️
That also helps our track to sound good on mono systems, because we keep the main lead dry.
If its the same note, the harmonics are all integer multiples, that isn't a different sound, it will still clash with the original. The sidechaining is what removes the clashing.
Great video, Really nice tips, I find this video really useful
I would bend the reverb synth up in some case of the vocal melody. Or 2 different where one moves up and the other down at the same time.. or fade to reverb synth to a completely different..
damn, that's so simple yet genious
Interesting way of layering , thanks!
Amazing! Thanks so much for sharing!
You are an amazing tutor , great tips , and always to the point !
over all, i enjoy your ideas.
Bro this is gold. Thanks for sharing!
i was expecting this video to be trying to sell me something, well it did but I don't mind because I actually learned something cool now, thank you!
What a brilliant video, thank you!
Z your a monster!!! Gonna grab your new course.
Great stuff thanks for the tips!! Is that your vocal on the track as well? Sounds great 🚀
I got Ableton 11 and man it seems to be built for Electronic music. I still have Logic and love the newer updates but God damn Ableton is really good too.
wow I've somehow never considered this. this is a great tip thanks for sharing
This video is very insightful especially with the pitch bend idea, thank you
Great idea. Love it.
Man what a wonderful video and man I need that song asap that lead hypnotized me
The pitched reverb trick is so clever
Very cool! I've done similar things with guitar parts. Record dry, and pitch-shift it up to reamp on a different (softer) setting for atmosphere
Dayum! That is a great trick!
wow, so clever!
the first one still sounds good 😍
Great vid and also great editing of the vid. The visuals are super helpful and need to be appreciated too
This has been most enlightening, thank you.
great vid, really good ideas here that I'm going to try out
Great tips, very well presented, clear and easy to understand 👌🙏
Very useful info! Thanks for sharing.
Wasn’t aware of this one, so thanks Big Z
Zach delivering the goods again!! Great content bro. Appreciate it!!❤