How To thin Tamiya Color paint for airbrushing V 2.0
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- I originally posted a video about this subject more than 16 months ago. I thought it deserved better. I have learned so much about editing and camera use since that original was made. I hope you are able to make use of this much streamlined video.
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I love these starter how-to vids. They helped me a lot when I started.
Adam Mann I am glad you were able to get something out of them Adam that was my intent. I plan on doing an airbrush cleaning video very soon.
Thank you, at last a straight forward, non technical tutorial for people like me who are new to airbrushing.
I tried lacquer thinner once. Got an incredibly smooth finish! Very happy with the results!
Thank you. I think I got it. Really scared to make a start but watching this makes me feel more relaxed. Thank you guy👍👍👍
Thank you for this - I also love these simple instruction videos. I am just getting started and I have learned a lot from watching these.
Very simple but very useful video. No BS just the basics. Very helpful for a beginner, thank you :)
That's great : clear and instructive. Sometimes it's good to discuss the basic things for beginners to get onto the train.
Useful!
Thanks for taking time to make this educational video, I'm sure many modellers and general airbrush users will find this useful.
You know ... having some things to master before unwrapping kits confidently will cause 'stashing' issue; that is keeping buying and stashing kits without daring to destroy a valuable, rare, and expensive kit while still not expert enough to paint and finish the model in proper way.
Vortex You are very welcome and thank you very much for watching!!
Best video regarding this subject thank you for taking the time
I’m just getting in to air brushing
So this was very helpful
Too cool..
Thanks for your video!!!
I think I'm ready to paint!!
Very Fine, thanks for the quick lesson in the basics that most of us need to keep our techniques centered.
Martin Collmer You are very welcome and thank you for taking the time to watch and comment.
Amazingly helpful. I have tried all different types amd kinds of paints. and finally gave up. Thank you for making it easy to thin the paint. I finally went with this after spending months trying to get Model master acrylics to airbrush. The flats where great. the glosses just dont lay. Thank you for your help.
You are very welcome that is exactly why I made the video. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
Thank you Andy for the great info in Tamiya paints!
You are very welcome.
I have a whole ton of tamiya paints as they are readily available in UK, and I used to hand paint all my models with them. Since taking up and airbrush about two years ago (still a notive in that deot) I've switched to Vallejo, AK and ammo. So this was a useful vid and tutorial Andy as it's given me a kick to start using them hopefully. Cheers
Armour Empire You bet Mark I hope you can dust them off and try them out again. The nice thing about them is no cloggy cloggy of the needle!
Cool video. I just opened up my first airbrush kit to use on my model airplanes and i am super stoked to try it. I wasnt sure how to thin out the tamiya paint but im glad u cleared that up for me. Thanks man. Good work :)
+Ermac Dahitman Excellent, I am glad you found it useful and I wish you the best of luck on your project.
excellent. The further into this I get the more I believe that the old-school paints are still the best.
will pattison Are you implying that you consider Tamiya Color to be an "old school" paint? Many professional modelers ONLY use Tamiya Color and there are good reasons for that.
TacticalJackalope absolutely. old school is a good thing in this case.
Thanks for the info! I thinned the paints the wrong order 😂😂
I will definetly keep this in mind
Thank you i just started to get seriously into models and didnt really understand the others with the mixing for the paint and this is really helpful
thanks you for the video sir! it really did help me on my gunpla kits! works fine and results are great!
more than six years later and this helped alot! thanks
A very good video, for a beginner like me is of great help. Greetings from León, Mexico
Thanks for the remake . Always awesome info
bpezzano1 You are very welcome.
Thx for taking the time to share this video.
It was just what i was looking for in regards to mix ratio, and the tip on the eyedroppers just saved me $$$$$..........big thumbs up to you.
I too use mag's products together.............cheap insurance i say vs a ruined paint job and model.
+Mike Morgan Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. I could not agree more on using the branded thinners and cleaners with their similar paint.
version 2.0. Great video as always.....I don't understand how I missed this first time around????? I watch nearly all your videos. Anyways.....very useful info.
Great video simple and easy...going to do it exactly like that 😊😊
Thanks for sharing. I usually use the X-20A thinner for the mix between tamiya colors. I use also Windex with good results when the X-20A run out
Jose Daniel Masster_Ozymandias You are welcome Jose! Thank you for watching.
I couldn't help but stare at that D.520 box you had in your stash... I LOVE that kit, my favorite kit of my favorite WW2 fighter.
Also, thank you for not painting dunkelgelb on a model molded in dunkelgelb like in the last video XD
Brandon Brockwell I am glad you like it. I probably won't get to that one in some time.
TacticalJackalope You are very welcome and thank you for taking the time to watch and comment.
Thank you soooo MUCH!!!!!!! This video helped me a lot, and i mean, a lot!!!!!! i have been trying to find an easy explanation of how to mix paint for airbrushing, one view of your video, i tried it and it works!!!! 😁👍 and for this reason i am going to subscribe to your channel! Cheers my good man, keep it up!!!!
Por Supuesto. Gracias.
Nice video. I use some small BB's or ball bearings in my pain bottles. It works great when I shake the bottles and when the paint is gone I can clean the BB or Bearing and do it again;
Thank u so much for the video. direct and simple
Nice video.
Thanks for your instructions
It's that easy??? Cool! So, I'll stick to Tamiya acrylics. I already love them for handpainting, 'cause they're rather self-leveling when properly thinned. Thanks a lot, Andy! :D
I only build Tamiya models, only use Tamiya paints/thinners and only use Tamiya tools unless they are not available. Last time I built a model was 4 years ago and let me say, Tamiya has so many products now! I just bought almost every Tamiya color so I’m ready. Just got a Tamiya Airbrush and compressor today. The compressor is serious the quietest I have ever seen!
I look forward to trying this out once my airbrush and arrives
markybyeah Excellent! You will have to tell me how it goes.
Great video, thanks for sharing
Very helpful, thanks.
Very helpful video!
Amazingly simple tutorial. Just what im looking for! Thank you so much! Will this 2:1 paint and thinner ratio works with other paints?
Unfortunately every paint is different. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment.
Thanks for the Heads up regarding this tutorial.
Good video Andy ! I used the Tamiya Lacquer thinner once or twice on their paints... but my extractor isn't strong enough to get rid of all the smell ! so I stopped using it. One thing I remember is the Flat paints turned out extra flat ! Which was a nice side effect. Not sure what it would do to shinny paints ?
keep up those short videos... I am sure 'many' find them very useful !
Norm Lajoie Thank you Norm I appreciate the support.
Thanks for the video! I was wondering if any typical airbrush cleaner can be used for cleaning, or if the Tamiya cleaner is needed specifically because the Tamiya paint is solvent based? Thanks very much!
Thanks friend, your video helped me a lot since I am a beginner, I have a question, how many drops of thinner and paint would be to paint smaller lines for camouflages, for a 2mm needle.
Saving this video 👌
I love Tamiya paints. They are so incredibly easy to use and readily available in the US. Unless gunze aqueous becomes readily available (heard lots of good things about it) Tamiya is my go to paint.
GreakLP I cannot confirm this but I believe Tamiya paints are actually made by GSI Creos(Gunze Sangyo). It is too much of a coincidence for me that the two paints are so similar. Both companies thinners and cleaners work equally well with both types. Mr. Color is the same type of solvent based acrylic paint as is Tamiya Color. I have scoured the web for references to a Tamiya paint factory but there is no information or address that I can find.
Hmmm interesting theory. But doesn't gunze have a bit better selection than Tamiya?
GreakLP Absolutely but how are we to know the possible extent of a corporate contract or agreement between the two companies?? All I know is that you can't hide a paint factory. The government regulations and fees required to run such a facility are considerable. There are many references to GSI Creos facilities but none for Tamiya. Its a theory but I am unable to prove it.
My LHS ditched their rack of Gunze and took in both Vallejo Model Color and Model Air.
This is very interesting!
Loyal Tactics Thanks! Scouting out your subs?? haha.
I know this is old but Thankyou so much!! Would the 2 parts paint to 1 parts thinner be the same painting with a brush? (mainly for intricate details etc etc)
Thank's so much I do have a question , why not clean the air brush with the lacquer thinner ?
Hi there I'm new to air brushing your tutorials are very helpful could you tell me how to use varnishes and in particular do I need thin them down when spraying with varnish and the ratio I need thin them down
Tamiya paints have always been my go to paints, but I find myself eyeing those nifty no custom colour mixing AKi and AMMO paints... can they replace old faithful? Only time will tell. Kutgw Andy, really informative videos!
Cheers!
GeekyRocket Thank you Brad and I really appreciate the support and kind words.
Brilliant. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I've always gone with a 1:1 ratio and gotten excellent results.
Thanks brah .. I just recently got a good airbrush and are ready to take my modeling to the next level. I do have a question though... Should I use a paint retarder???
great video thanks
+paul wood You are very welcome.
Does this work with the Tamiya X27 Red Clear Coat? This paint is super glossy.
Afterwards, is there some sort of gloss acrylic top coat to protect the clear coat and maintain the shine? The rattle can clear gloss coats that I normally use seem to do strange things to the clear coat.
Thank you.
thank you so much for the tips XD cheers
+Hizamie Omar You are very welcome.
Hey, great video. I didn't understand what's the pressure you normally using while painting. I'm absolutely a beginner! Thanks for help!
+Domenico Neri Depends really there are lots of variables. It depends on the airbrush and the result you are trying to achieve. I would have to know more before I can recommend something.
Thanks so much, this is very helpful. I literally just started airbrushing models this week, after using tamiya sprays for a few years. What do you use to prime? I used Tamiya white and grey spray bottles to begin with but I'd rather use something out of my airbrush. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Their spray primers are excellent. You can decant the spray primer into a bottle and then use it in your airbrush. You also might find this video useful.
th-cam.com/video/CdsBAkQcLu4/w-d-xo.html
Thanks! Your videos are very helpful, thanks for posting all this good info!
i am all new to airbrushing, could you do a video on it showing us how to start using airbrush? Much appreciate it.
I’ve been using acetone because it’s cheap and the nearest bespoke model shop is 200 miles away.
The downside is that it generally very warm in Thailand and this evaporates so quickly!
If I get a brand new pot and fill it up to the base of the neck with acetone then mix,within less than a minute it’s starting to skin and this only for brushing.
Am I going to get the same problem using an air brush mix using the Tamiya thinner as I’m off to the model shop next week.
Thanx in advance.
Great Video man, thanks for the info! btw can I use something else to clean the airbrush like lacquer thinner rather than tamiya air brush cleaner?
+Ago Himawan Lacquer thinner will work but the Tamiya stuff is easier on the seals. I would not let it sit overnight if you do use it and I would make sure it is completely out of the brush.
+TacticalJackalope Ahhhh ok thanks a bunch!
Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou for the subtitles (even though they are a bit dodgy at times (talking about sex - had a good laugh at that one!)). But because I have a hearing problem I really appreciate the subs AND the HD, So thanks.
+bigdmac33 You are very welcome but I didn't put in the captions. TH-cam does that automatically.
Thanks for the tips. By the way for acrylic paint the ratio is 3 thinner : 1 paint, is that correct?
That's what I've been using but with kinda sporadic results
Gotta say, his in-cup mixing method is working spot on. Also I have an airbrushing book that mentions Tamiya acrylics be mixed 2 paint, 1 thinner (like this video) and so far working great
big thanks for this vid tutorial ...wished i would have watched this first instead of just jumping into it lol
If you have a big project to do you can thin a whole bottle (brand new bottle) by adding the Tamiya X-20A thinner up to the lip inside the bottle. That's what I learned from another video source on TH-cam. It seemed to have worked for me so far.
I can not imagine an instance where I would need to waste an entire bottle like that. Remember that Andy has a store and therefore wants you to use paint so you can buy some more. Personally I think that was one of the most wasteful things I have ever seen.
TacticalJackalope maybe I’ll follow your advice when it comes to mixing. Sometimes I’m not sure exactly how much paint I’ll need exactly. I’m still learning more about this hobby every day.
Great video. How about Tamiya Acrylic clear colors ratio, for example clear red. What are the ratio paint:thinner you usually use, thanks...
The same more or less. Shoot for the consistency near skim milk.
Thanks for the post and the all the posts too. Have one question, any problem with a alcohol based thinner striping the chrome off of your air brush? I read once that those type of thinners and cleaners would do that.
Thanks.
Riff Chrome....No. Nickel maybe. Chrome plating is an extremely hard and durable electro-chemical process. The barrel interior of modern day military firearms are chromed to decrease friction and improve heat resistance and extend the life of the barrel. A tad bit of isopropyl alcohol will not damage chrome plating.
TacticalJackalope Thanks for the info. Maybe it was Nickel and I remembered wrong. Looking forward to future posts.
Riff You are most welcome. Thank you for stopping by and watching.
How many people counted the drops along with him? (I did) Good video - thanks!
The video was very informative friend, thank you.
I'm new to airbrushing and have a few questions. My airbrush is the 105 Patriot too and I'm using Tamiya acrylics, so you should be able to help I believe. I am painting 1/144 High Grade Gundam models.
1. Since the needle/nozzle are so large how much paint is normal to use on a part?
2. I can't find Tamiya thinner sometimes at the store, any other thinners that work well? I've been using Isopropyl alcohol like I had heard online, any tips if you've used that would be nice.
3. How do you factor in things like flow aid or retarder into a paint mixture?
4. I live in South Florida. The weather here tends to be hot and humid. I spray in my garage without a spray booth, but with a respirator. If it's 70-90 degrees F but the humidity is below 70 does it seem worth it to paint that day or would my paint fog or a similar harsh effect?
Thanks for your time, gladly subbed!
+thelink2yoshi Thanks for the sub. I will try to do my best to answer your questions. How much paint you need is directly related to how large the area you need to paint is. Tamiya thinner is readily available at pretty much anywhere hobby stuff is sold. I buy most of my items from www.scalehobbyist.com they have great prices. Tamiya Color does not require any retarder or flow aid it is not a typical water based acrylic and does not suffer from the same problems that Vallejo or AK paints do. In regards to the ambient weather conditions for painting I would recommend you spray in a temperature controlled environment but high humidity can be problematic and wreak havoc on painting especially acrylics.
+TacticalJackalope That's good to know about the retarder and flow aid. Sadly I can't work in a better environment, not living on my own yet so I can't buy a spray-booth. I do keep track of the weather though so that I know when the ideal or acceptable painting conditions are met. I appreciate it either way.
Hello,
That was a great quick video demo. What about the school of thought? thin the whole bottle before you spray. thanks for sharing.
Les
Why? I presume you have been watching Andy's HQ videos? I feel that is a waste of a lot of expensive paint. I rarely need that much paint of one color and mix in smaller batches because its easier to handle. I also find that a 2:1 ratio sometimes is not enough so then you have a rather large quantity of paint without enough thinner. Cheers and thanks for taking the time to watch.
I don't see thinning a whole bottle of Tamiya paint as a waste of expensive paint, especially for colors that one may shoot repeatedly. For example, painting the base coat on a 1/350th scale aircraft carrier hull and/or flight deck.
What's expensive is paying $10.00 for a 250ml bottle of Tamiya Lacquer thinner when you can buy a gallon of Lacquer thinner from your local hardware store for around $15.00 and yield the exact same results.
Don't misunderstand, I am a BIG fan of Tamiya products, but there are cost effective alternatives for the budget minded modeler.
Hi, I wanted to ask you the size of the needle. Should the diution also depend on the size of the needle used?
What would be the mixture ratio for putting the final clear gloss or clear flat over coat? Is it the same 2:1
I bought the x-20A thinner and wonder if I can use acrylics that are not from yamiya with it?
From my experience.
Tamiya Acrylics Thinner makes paint more flat (I call it dead flat) and a coat is softer. I use X-20A when I want to use hairspray technique. It's easier to scratch.
Tamiya Lacquer Thinner (or any Gunze Mr.Color Thinner, or Gaia T-06) makes Tamiya Acrylics more similar to Mr.Color or Gaianotes lacquers. Paint dries harder and has a bit more satin finish than Tamiya flat.
Justin Case ok so that is how you get a satin tamiya paint!
Thanks for the vid! 1 question, what kind of compressor do you use for the airbrush? thanks again!
+Nolan the Simmer A cheap one from TCP Global. Their Master Brand with a tank. It was like $79 bucks on sale when I bought it a couple of years ago.
thanks for the reply. i subscribed to your channel
Nolan the Simmer Thanks very much!
Thank you
I use Lacquer for my Tamiya paints, less grainy paint on the model and it looks better.
I watched from a hobby channel, can I fill the new paint bottle up to the groove and shake it? Will it really be ready for airbrush and is it effective?Please answer.
It’s been 6 months since you left your comment, did you try it? Did it work? Thanks!
@@raginggamer2109 I just watch a video that suggested the same thing . Be interested in a reply to this
Will this 2:1 paint thinner ratio work with Tamiya "Gloss" colors such as their Gloss White???
This tamiya paint is enamel or acrylic? I am new to this. Thanks in advance.
Hi, this may be 3 years back but still helpful. Would like to have your advice, at what pressure is this? Thanks.
I typically spray at about 15-20 psi.
I tried to do a 2 paint to 3 water ratio using 20 psi but the colors were not coming out. Will try the ratio you recco and see. For acryllics, does it matter if the thinner was water or X-20A? Thanks for the advice.
Tamiya Color is NOT a water based acrylic. You must use their thinner X20A or their lacquer thinner to properly reduce it.
Ah I see it now...No wonder the paint feels kind of sputtering...I really got to go get the X20A thinner. Thanks and hope to see more Gunpla videos on your channel!
if you use Testors paints do you use the same Ratio? 2-1 thinner - paint??
I don't know honestly. I don't use them or care for them personally.
can i clean the airbrush with the acrylic thinner?
Thanks for the video. Very well explained.
As a modeler I always try to use my plastic stuff the more I can. Those eye drop pipets I use them for a long time, if you clean them with álcool the last for a long time.
We all need to start carrying about our planet and we PLASTIC modelers should give the example.
Is the thinning ratio the same for the clear colors?
I want to spray evenly on very complex surface like 1/700 ship model using acrylic color. do you think 2paint:1thinner works? And, someone says 1paint:2thinner , what is best for my application?
How do you know what sir pressure is running thru your airbrush if you have a larger compressor?
Wonder if Testors paint will work as well. 👀
Would you recommend using a primer with the thinned Tamiya acrylics?
Kilo-Lima I always recommend priming. Actually I believe its essential. It gives the paint something to "bite" into and it allows you to apply your base color with less paint.
TacticalJackalope thanks for the response! What primer would you recommend?
There are many good ones. It's hard to beat the Tamiya rattle can primer or Mr. Surfacer primers in either 1200 or 1500.
Just finished watching this I did you method and I had to put the pressure up. I use a iwata brush and air compressor. I either get speckling or spider webbing
"speckling" is also referred to as "orange peel" this is caused by being to far from the subject which causes the paint to dry before it hits the surface of your subject. You need to be 4-6" from your painting surface. It can also be caused by pressure being to high. Properly thinned Tamiya color only needs 15-20 psi. Spider webbing is a result of the paint being either too thin or in some cases too thick. It needs to have the consistency of skim milk. I hope this helps.
Tactical Jackalope so I use a iwata airbrush and a iwata ninja air compressor it doesn’t give out numbers and just has a + to - symbol for the pressure I think the drop method gave me the best results.
Do you use Tamiya Clears? And do you thin them the same way?
Yes and they are a bit soupy. I reduce those more like 1:1.
TacticalJackalope Thank you
Sweet, this actually answers my question about the clears. I have noticed they are more gloopy than the others.
Can I suppose that the mix for clear gloss or clear semi-gloss is the same? I mean, x2 parts of clear and x1 part of X-20A, isn't?
I find that their clear coats run a bit thick so I reduce them about 1:1
Excellent tutorial!!! Thanks for posting. These paints seem pretty simplistic to airbrush but I do have one quick question: At any time have you ever had to add a retarder or any kind of flow aid to these Tamiya paints? I want to quit using Testors Model Master acrylic paints because of having to add all kinds of things just to get them to spray correctly. They have NEVER (straight out of the bottle) performed correctly to the mfg. specs for mixing and have given me fits for years now! After watching your video I want to ditch Model Master paints for good and give Tamiya a try.
+Phayzyre105 Absolutely not. Tamiya Acrylics are essentially acrylic lacquer's and therefore not subject to the same woe's that water based acrylics like Vallejo Model Air or Model Master Acryl are.
TacticalJackalope Thanks for the reply! Speaking of Vallejo; I tried to airbrush Vallejo a while back and good grief....talk about gumming up my airbrush!!! It performed even worse than Model Master and I later learned online that you had to add a concoction of flow-aid, retarder, etc., etc., etc., just to get a good finish. To me that laborious process is like going around the world just to get across the street! I'll be heading to my local hobby shop today and get some Tamiya paints and thinner to give it a try. I'll let you know how it turns out.
TacticalJackalope Hello again! Just wanted to update and let you know I got my hands on some Tamiya thinner and paint and my friend you weren't joking, it performed SUPERBLY!!! I mixed it to the proportions that you did here in this video and it left a beautiful finish. No grainy splatter, watery mix or having to adjust the mix with flow aid or anything else, it worked just fine right off the bat. No gumming up the airbrush either. Thanks again with your help with this. The only gripe I have is Tamiya needs to expand their paint colors to that of theTestors Model Master line. Other than that they have just earned another customer! Take care :)
Can I use acrylic thinner too thin Tamiya clear coat x22?
Do you worry about the cancer label/warning on Tamiya paints? Like when using them?
No
I don’t worry about it
just started this air brush painting method... i still have a long way to go. Question: what if I over paint on my model? is there a way to overpaint it? or need some solution to wash it first? thanks!
Washing is not necessary. You will have to remove the paint if you put to much on the model.
I'm having issues with my matt varnish Vallejo I don't know if I need to thin it because it seems not to flow through airbrush in my airbrush
+Donald Cressman Yes, it should be thinned about 1:1 with their thinner.
can i use vallejo thinner for tamiya paints
What size airbrush needle do you generally use with Tamiya paints?
Dave Ryan Whichever it doesn't matter. When thinned properly this stuff sprays with any equipment.
I have a single stage airbrush with the glass jar underneath what is the ratio for them
Donnie Greenway The same. The type of airbrush doesn't matter. You can even thin it a bit more if you choose this paint is very forgiving.