I still can't fathom how Scatt wasted a whole game by going Snake who everyone knows is trash against Joker when he plays Megaman, literally the best character against Joker.
SouL yeah that’s a good point. Leo is just better than all the Snakes after ally retired. MVD hasn’t been doing well (got 49th) and Salem is just being a troll with Hero (also got 49th). It isn’t the matchup that made ScAtt lose, it’s the fact that Leo is just such a good player.
Leo really needs to learn the megaman matchup, first Kameme and now almost Scatt... If he does, he wont have to be as scared as I feel he was in this set.
Learning a matchup doesn't necessarily mean you'll always outplay that character. Joker is Leo's best character, and if Megaman is a good counter, it doesn't matter if Leo is better, he'll have some trouble against the counter pick, hence why it's a counter pick. He ended up winning 3-1, yes, by slim margin, but still, he pulled through because he adjusted
Is it just me or is MKLeo always getting stocks off back airs and that one hit confirm to smash attack? Don’t get me wrong, I like him and all, but Scatt was playing beastly this set, props to him
The quest is not to simply beat Leo though. It is to anhilate his tournament stock like Samsora did. A difficult task since apparently hes got 3 magical di's before it happens. Also, Marss does not play Megaman.
Scatt literally outplayed leo 70% of the time as mm until he got arsen. He hits him about 4 times and is dead for it. I think he should fought a little more mixed with camping, but dude if u just try to fight arsen u will die. Its not gay if what ur fighting is even more rIdiculous. Trust me ive tried to just fight arsen cuz I HATE camping. And I play mm. But I get blown up if I try to just foght him as I fight base joker
Jonny Watts Yes and I didn't call camping gay. Big gay meant PK Fire(joke). But the fastest way to get rid of Arsene is by dealing damage. So when Scatt outplayed leo 70% of the time he also could get rid of Arsene 70% faster
@@Luffy-yz9gj yea pk fire is the gayest move in the damn game. But yea no I agree that the way to deal with arsen is a mix of camping and damage, cuz like u said dealing damage gets rid of it faster. but that's why I think he should've rush camped, then baited leo and attack. He lost at the end becauSe he backed himself into a corner. all the other times he was rush camping, then attacking when leo got close. should've stuck to that
Mistifyed. I dont agree, if they are going to nerf arsene they should just remove the extra meter joker gets after the first stock at respawn. His matchup against megaman shows that its possible to stall long enough to make arsene less effective. Nerfing him would honestly be unnecesary and hurt the character more than is justified.
@@1Yooter in general if he's getting Arsene too often it's his opponents fault. They're either getting baited into Rebel's Guard or they're winning but failing to take stocks. If you're actually winning then Joker shouldn't get Arsene more than once per stock. If he does you're giving him Rebel's Guard. The move has huge end-lag: bait and punish, bait and punish, BAIT AND PUNISH.
Benjamin Dunne characters that can bait and punish are characters who are faster than joker and their issue is their lack of kill power. Bait and punishing arsene is not the best way to handle him especially with a counter. Camping and kill joker before arsene is the only reliable way for him to lose
I can't believe the commentator, saying he wants to see more people camping out on the angel platform. The angel timer should be shorter, or your invincibility after should be 0 if you camp. It's a cowards play, not just against joker. Nobody wants to see campers, just because you want someone else to win? Give me a break...
I still can't fathom how Scatt wasted a whole game by going Snake who everyone knows is trash against Joker when he plays Megaman, literally the best character against Joker.
The Snake discord actually thinks that the Joker matchup is even. MM and Chus do the best against him no doubt.
If you actually watch those snake joker matches (especially mkleo vs ally) almost all the matches are last hit
SouL yeah that’s a good point. Leo is just better than all the Snakes after ally retired. MVD hasn’t been doing well (got 49th) and Salem is just being a troll with Hero (also got 49th). It isn’t the matchup that made ScAtt lose, it’s the fact that Leo is just such a good player.
SouL Thats before he figured out Rebel's Guard which pretty much turns grenades into free Arsenne.
Duke good Snakes would never throw a grenade at a Ness, Lucas, GnW or Joker unless they are in a position to punish their down b.
Everyone just gonna go over the fact this mans name is scatt
It refers to scatt music.
Q B still doesn’t sound good I didn’t know scatt was a genre and to me just sounds like a Hes named after a nasty kink
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2 girls one cup anyone; hahahaha man, thought the same thing.....
Can we just give a moment for that megaman combo at the end?
Leo really needs to learn the megaman matchup, first Kameme and now almost Scatt... If he does, he wont have to be as scared as I feel he was in this set.
@Pats Nation Nice contribution, next time bring me a coke while you're at it, thanks.
To be fair, megaman is really good at camping out arsene. Seems like one of megamans better matchups.
Learning a matchup doesn't necessarily mean you'll always outplay that character. Joker is Leo's best character, and if Megaman is a good counter, it doesn't matter if Leo is better, he'll have some trouble against the counter pick, hence why it's a counter pick. He ended up winning 3-1, yes, by slim margin, but still, he pulled through because he adjusted
I've witnessed murder jfc he said bring a coke I'm dead
Joseph Chung He still won. It's not as if Leo doesn't have a secondary if he absolutely needs it.
I've been watching ScAtt since sm4sh and it's always a treat. His playstyle with whoever he is is just unique.
3:26 *stands and sheilds*
Lol twice
Hell yeah leo, your lookin cool joker
4:07
Did the commentator quote TeamFourStars' "Cell vs Kenshiro"?
Nice catch
Very nice catch yes I did haha
What makes it specifically about the team four star? "You're already dead" is just a Kenshiro reference.
Great set, ggs both!
Is Leo on 2 teams?
Yes. He's on Echo Fox (Fox) and Most Valuable gaming (MVG)
Scatt is MegaMan the only ive seen that stood his ground with arsen
Is it just me or is MKLeo always getting stocks off back airs and that one hit confirm to smash attack? Don’t get me wrong, I like him and all, but Scatt was playing beastly this set, props to him
CLAW jokers backair is a kill move, really good
CLAW against a campy character you just wanna get them off stage for your Bair kill move or get some ledge reads, and that’s what leo did
thats just the best option to get kills with
leo looks like the president of mexico
Puppeh put in trouble Leo... Tweek uses PTrainer.
Kameme and Scat put in trouble Leo... Tweek picking up new main.
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Wishes gave a lot of troubles to Leo in Smash 'n Splash.
Yeah it was NOT puppeh since he lost at CEO
@@ericdragoification yeahh my bad, it was wishes!!
I didnt know chance the rapper played smash
I'd say otherwise about Mega Man being a bad matchup for Joker
YETI IS THE ONE WHO CAN BEAT LEO
MN pride I see here.
@@TapDat52K Kameme and Marss can beat Leo too.
No
The quest is not to simply beat Leo though. It is to anhilate his tournament stock like Samsora did. A difficult task since apparently hes got 3 magical di's before it happens. Also, Marss does not play Megaman.
YoshiHunter_RedX marss does have mega man as one of his secondaries
やっぱかめめスゲーな
28 percent f smash?! 20:35
he had rage and arsene so it isnt that surprising
Zakman rage only affects knock back
Los torneos mejor deberían llamarse: 'Leo vs la élite smash gringa'
I know that it's the play against Arsene but man did he camp a lot lmfao.
As a Joker Main I really hate seeing players camping Arsene. I know it's smarter but for me this is on the same level as big gay fire spam
Scatt literally outplayed leo 70% of the time as mm until he got arsen. He hits him about 4 times and is dead for it. I think he should fought a little more mixed with camping, but dude if u just try to fight arsen u will die. Its not gay if what ur fighting is even more rIdiculous. Trust me ive tried to just fight arsen cuz I HATE camping. And I play mm. But I get blown up if I try to just foght him as I fight base joker
Jonny Watts Yes and I didn't call camping gay. Big gay meant PK Fire(joke). But the fastest way to get rid of Arsene is by dealing damage. So when Scatt outplayed leo 70% of the time he also could get rid of Arsene 70% faster
Ken the Third in a tournament yes, but casually it's just annoying where nothing can be lost
@@Luffy-yz9gj yea pk fire is the gayest move in the damn game. But yea no I agree that the way to deal with arsen is a mix of camping and damage, cuz like u said dealing damage gets rid of it faster. but that's why I think he should've rush camped, then baited leo and attack. He lost at the end becauSe he backed himself into a corner. all the other times he was rush camping, then attacking when leo got close. should've stuck to that
Well if Arsene wasn't the entire character nobody would have to.
joker broken
Arsene needs to be toned down
Mistifyed. I dont agree, if they are going to nerf arsene they should just remove the extra meter joker gets after the first stock at respawn. His matchup against megaman shows that its possible to stall long enough to make arsene less effective. Nerfing him would honestly be unnecesary and hurt the character more than is justified.
@@trashestash6564 That seems fair, Joker gets Arsene more often than what would be honestly acceptable.
@@1Yooter in general if he's getting Arsene too often it's his opponents fault. They're either getting baited into Rebel's Guard or they're winning but failing to take stocks. If you're actually winning then Joker shouldn't get Arsene more than once per stock. If he does you're giving him Rebel's Guard. The move has huge end-lag: bait and punish, bait and punish, BAIT AND PUNISH.
Benjamin Dunne characters that can bait and punish are characters who are faster than joker and their issue is their lack of kill power. Bait and punishing arsene is not the best way to handle him especially with a counter. Camping and kill joker before arsene is the only reliable way for him to lose
I can't believe the commentator, saying he wants to see more people camping out on the angel platform.
The angel timer should be shorter, or your invincibility after should be 0 if you camp.
It's a cowards play, not just against joker.
Nobody wants to see campers, just because you want someone else to win? Give me a break...
You've got a smooth brain
Camping is like a legit strategy. It steals time away from arsene and it takes the momentum out of Joker.
Aye man blame arsene for being borderline broken.
u prolly go 0-2 at every local
Good thing they’re not playing for your entertainment.