Wish I could hit the "like" button 1000 times. It's thanks to you (and Nick Taylor's) content on the GT Asia channel that I finally grokked S&T. I was totally sold "intellectually" on S&T ages ago (had the hardcover book, DVDs, and spoke with Andy & Mike at the PGA Orlando over a decade ago). But I never could execute on the range or course to my satisfaction. Thus I abandoned the wisdom for a jumble of other methodologies over the years. I cringe at the monetary value of range balls I wasted in the interim. But you and Nick have been so clear, consistent, and generous with your explanations that I've finally been able to realize the ball striking I always knew was in reach. I went from a 15 index to an 8 last season simply because I stopped fiddling and searching and just stuck with and refined the "ten word" basics and translated them into my on-course feels & intents.
Excellent video. A golf instructor steered me away from stack and tilt 15-20 years ago. I had excellent iron strikes using stack and tilt, but struggled with the driver back then. This video was very helpful and made me decide to give it another go in my next practice session.
Same here, only I was steered away only in May this year in a lesson. And although it did make me hit more up on the ball, it made my strike location irregular, for the logical reasons explained by Rob and the S&T book. Glad I am back where to where I feel most comfortable with driver after watching Robs excellent explanation videos. (I was taught 25 years ago that the low point was AT the ball, didn't take any lessons after floating happily around hcp 18 and after I finally learned about proper low point location just 13 months ago, I still manage only 2 degrees down with irons. And 1.5 degrees up on average with driver. Old patterns die hard, but to get strike location right is so much more adding value than getting swing speed up) Cut hcp by 4 strokes, which may not seem much but I found out (thanks to shot scope watch) that over time I had developed a low digit hcp level short game to compensate for the trouble I would get myself into regularly between tee and green. What I now notice is that I need to rely less on it this season..
J’ai mis une semaine pour appliquer ta théorie avec le poids sur le pied avant et les résultats sont très appréciables: - confiance dans mon swing -amplitude du backswing - carry + 20 mètres - trajectoires en draw - stabilité du corps - précision et régularité Merci et bonne suite
Great video Rob. Been playing rubbish lately, and then my mate said to me today “you were much better when you did that stack and tilt thing”. I think I went away from it when I had a lesson (conventional). I watched loads of your videos a couple years ago, glad you’re still around cos you explain concepts so well. I’ve subscribed to your new channel and am officially back to S&T 👍👍
Hi， Rob, It's great to see you coming back here. I always have the 2nd mistake setup for driver. Thanks so much for your video and I need to adjust to right setup according to your method.
Your new series of videos is fantastic - very clear, detailed explanations. I especially appreciate the additional emphasis on the “wrench” position/weight left at address. In the past, I have done the wrench drill and would hit every shot almost perfect. I would wonder to myself, why don’t I just play like this? I was already a Stack & Tilt practitioner. Your advocacy of the wrench has inspired me to push the hips forward at setup even more and play this way.
Great info. With S&T, my I have never hit my irons better, but hitting the driver still eludes me. Thanks for the great tip on the set-up. I look forward to trying it out on my next trip to the range.
I've really been working the stack and tilt with the driver recently and have had great results. Had my first 300 yard drive, no more slice, it's amazing. But... I'm hitting a lot of shots out of the heel now, any suggestions? Simply moving back an inch isn't working, and I'm still hitting the heel. Help!!
Watching the video of Rory it is apparent that he pre-sets his weight on his trail foot, then shifts his weight during the swing to his lead foot whereupon ball contact takes place. While ball contact is made when his weight is over his lead foot, as yours is, I believe that forward movement is what creates the tremendous power he possesses. Without that weight shift forward the golfer will either need to rotate faster or swing faster, both of which will lead to errant shots.
Thank you for your comment and observation, but it's not the way it works. All swings can/will produce errant shots. Adding a weight shift isn't necessary to create power.
@@robcheneygolf1 I didn’t like it…I love it! Thanks! You have some great content. I got my Tour Striker ball, a long alignment stick and the rope out to work on the swing in the living room here! Love some of the feels and drills you have in the S&T videos. Hoping to play tomorrow here in the Midwest so let’s see if it translates to the big stick! 🍻
Rob, I’m interested in weighted speed stick training to increase my swing speed (also called over speed training). My concern is that in the online drills using the trainer - they employ a huge weight shift back where the lead foot comes off the ground. Will this hurt me when I employ Stack and Tilt, where my weight never shifts back? In other words, create bad habits? Will speed training in this manner help me?
That's a great question. I've seen speed training help some people and hurt others. I would make the point that there are lots of ways to add power/speed to a golf swing without shifting the centres of the swing back and forth. I would encourage you to explore these options first before any specific speed training program.
Rob, I've always valued your instruction... My key driver move/swing initiator is along the lines of what you discuss in this video - my first move/swing thought is... left hip toward the target i.e. a lateral movement. My thought on the iron swing is different - it is right hip starting the downswing i.e. I don't think there is as much lateral movement with the irons - especially shorter irons - as there is with driver. Does the above make sense to you?
Thanks Rob, extremely useful video as always . Would you recommend the hips forward slide at set up for irons ? I’m doing it with every club and the results seems to be good
Hey Rob. What would u say is the optimal tee hight for this swing? for driver and 5 wood. ofc depends on what shot, but a standard down the fairway shot🙂 thanks!
@@robcheneygolf1 Man I would love to but just mapped out his location & it's 1hour & 30 minutes 1 way. I surely appreciate this but need a person with a 45 minute drive. I want & need hands on instruction where I know the correct positions to be in vs doing a virtual coach. I truly thank you for trying. I seriously want to learn Stack & Tilt but I guess I'm going to have to settle with Stack and Guess. 😆
@@robcheneygolf1 I just got off the phone with Dennis Sales and I was really all out on driving 1 hour & 3 minutes but after speaking with Dennis I said lets do this so I'm waiting on his availability. I need more show me less talk and Dennis is straight forward matching my demeanor. Thanks Rob, I'm Terry Young.
I don’t understand why I try to set up the same every time and sometimes the driver is so easy and powerful and the next time I set up, I can tell I’m either going to hook or slice and there’s nothing I can do about it.
I've really been working the stack and tilt with the driver recently and have had great results. Had my first 300 yard drive, no more slice, it's amazing. But... I'm hitting a lot of shots out of the heel now, any suggestions? Simply moving back an inch isn't working, and I'm still hitting the heel. Help!!
Wish I could hit the "like" button 1000 times. It's thanks to you (and Nick Taylor's) content on the GT Asia channel that I finally grokked S&T. I was totally sold "intellectually" on S&T ages ago (had the hardcover book, DVDs, and spoke with Andy & Mike at the PGA Orlando over a decade ago). But I never could execute on the range or course to my satisfaction. Thus I abandoned the wisdom for a jumble of other methodologies over the years. I cringe at the monetary value of range balls I wasted in the interim. But you and Nick have been so clear, consistent, and generous with your explanations that I've finally been able to realize the ball striking I always knew was in reach. I went from a 15 index to an 8 last season simply because I stopped fiddling and searching and just stuck with and refined the "ten word" basics and translated them into my on-course feels & intents.
Love it! That’s the reason we do this! 💪🏻
@@robcheneygolf1 topping the bloody ball off the tee, but hitting it top shelf with the irons. Any advice will help
Rob - I’m 62 and recently found you and S&T…I tried this driver technique today and it worked like a charm! Thank you for your terrific instruction!
That’s awesome, Steve! Thanks for sharing! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Excellent video. A golf instructor steered me away from stack and tilt 15-20 years ago. I had excellent iron strikes using stack and tilt, but struggled with the driver back then. This video was very helpful and made me decide to give it another go in my next practice session.
Glad to hear it, David! 👍🏻
Same here, only I was steered away only in May this year in a lesson. And although it did make me hit more up on the ball, it made my strike location irregular, for the logical reasons explained by Rob and the S&T book. Glad I am back where to where I feel most comfortable with driver after watching Robs excellent explanation videos. (I was taught 25 years ago that the low point was AT the ball, didn't take any lessons after floating happily around hcp 18 and after I finally learned about proper low point location just 13 months ago, I still manage only 2 degrees down with irons. And 1.5 degrees up on average with driver. Old patterns die hard, but to get strike location right is so much more adding value than getting swing speed up) Cut hcp by 4 strokes, which may not seem much but I found out (thanks to shot scope watch) that over time I had developed a low digit hcp level short game to compensate for the trouble I would get myself into regularly between tee and green. What I now notice is that I need to rely less on it this season..
J’ai mis une semaine pour appliquer ta théorie avec le poids sur le pied avant et les résultats sont très appréciables:
- confiance dans mon swing
-amplitude du backswing
- carry + 20 mètres
- trajectoires en draw
- stabilité du corps
- précision et régularité
Merci et bonne suite
Merci beaucoup!
Great video Rob. Been playing rubbish lately, and then my mate said to me today “you were much better when you did that stack and tilt thing”.
I think I went away from it when I had a lesson (conventional).
I watched loads of your videos a couple years ago, glad you’re still around cos you explain concepts so well.
I’ve subscribed to your new channel and am officially back to S&T 👍👍
Great to hear, Paul! Welcome back to the dark side! 😎
Hi， Rob, It's great to see you coming back here. I always have the 2nd mistake setup for driver. Thanks so much for your video and I need to adjust to right setup according to your method.
Thanks for watching! Glad the video was helpful! 👍🏻
Just found your channel. So glad I did.
Welcome! 🤗
Your new series of videos is fantastic - very clear, detailed explanations. I especially appreciate the additional emphasis on the “wrench” position/weight left at address. In the past, I have done the wrench drill and would hit every shot almost perfect. I would wonder to myself, why don’t I just play like this? I was already a Stack & Tilt practitioner. Your advocacy of the wrench has inspired me to push the hips forward at setup even more and play this way.
That’s awesome, Blair! 🔧
Great info. With S&T, my I have never hit my irons better, but hitting the driver still eludes me. Thanks for the great tip on the set-up. I look forward to trying it out on my next trip to the range.
Glad to help! 👍🏻
Hips forward is the game changer.
I've really been working the stack and tilt with the driver recently and have had great results. Had my first 300 yard drive, no more slice, it's amazing.
But... I'm hitting a lot of shots out of the heel now, any suggestions? Simply moving back an inch isn't working, and I'm still hitting the heel. Help!!
Great session Rob. I really needed this review. Be good-Russ
Thank you, Russ!
Good to see you Rob. Driver is so hard to hit. I went on course today and sliced a lot. Need more noodle exercise 😂
Hi Bill. Yes, you need more of the HANDS IN part of the swing. Stop those arms from lifting up!
@@robcheneygolf1thanks Rob! Wonderful videos I have watched a few times, and will continue to watch them as a reminder 🤓
love your videos Rob
Thanks! 😊
Watching the video of Rory it is apparent that he pre-sets his weight on his trail foot, then shifts his weight during the swing to his lead foot whereupon ball contact takes place. While ball contact is made when his weight is over his lead foot, as yours is, I believe that forward movement is what creates the tremendous power he possesses. Without that weight shift forward the golfer will either need to rotate faster or swing faster, both of which will lead to errant shots.
Thank you for your comment and observation, but it's not the way it works. All swings can/will produce errant shots. Adding a weight shift isn't necessary to create power.
You are the best Coach I've seen... thanks for your lessons...🙏
Oooh! This is the video you mentioned! Sweet!
Hope you like it!
@@robcheneygolf1 I didn’t like it…I love it! Thanks! You have some great content. I got my Tour Striker ball, a long alignment stick and the rope out to work on the swing in the living room here! Love some of the feels and drills you have in the S&T videos. Hoping to play tomorrow here in the Midwest so let’s see if it translates to the big stick! 🍻
This is gold ! Thanks Rob
Thanks for watching! 👍🏻
Rob, I’m interested in weighted speed stick training to increase my swing speed (also called over speed training). My concern is that in the online drills using the trainer - they employ a huge weight shift back where the lead foot comes off the ground. Will this hurt me when I employ Stack and Tilt, where my weight never shifts back? In other words, create bad habits? Will speed training in this manner help me?
That's a great question. I've seen speed training help some people and hurt others. I would make the point that there are lots of ways to add power/speed to a golf swing without shifting the centres of the swing back and forth. I would encourage you to explore these options first before any specific speed training program.
Rob, I've always valued your instruction...
My key driver move/swing initiator is along the lines of what you discuss in this video - my first move/swing thought is... left hip toward the target i.e. a lateral movement. My thought on the iron swing is different - it is right hip starting the downswing i.e. I don't think there is as much lateral movement with the irons - especially shorter irons - as there is with driver. Does the above make sense to you?
There's a large amount of lateral movement with all the clubs, but you're right to say it's the most with the driver. 👍🏻
Thanks Rob, do we bump our hips forward for irons also?
Yes, you do.
Thanks mate cheers
Thanks Rob, extremely useful video as always . Would you recommend the hips forward slide at set up for irons ? I’m doing it with every club and the results seems to be good
Yes, absolutely! 👍🏻
Rob thanks for sharing this video appreciate that
Great lesson coach Rob ... thank you
Just Great info!
Thank you, Arne! 🙏🏻
Hey Rob. What would u say is the optimal tee hight for this swing? for driver and 5 wood. ofc depends on what shot, but a standard down the fairway shot🙂 thanks!
Can this 80-20 apply to wood
Yes it can.
Thanks!
Thank you so much! 🙏🏻
Is there an ideal loft for driver using stack and tilt method? Cheers Steve
No, wouldn’t say so. It very much depends on a golfer’s launch conditions and swing speed.
@@robcheneygolf1 Okay great, thanks for the speedy response Rob.
Find me a coach you trust in Dallas, Tx please. I've been away from the game. I want to come back using this method.
Ok... apologies for the delayed reply. Check out Dennis Sales. Tell him I sent you! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@robcheneygolf1 Man I would love to but just mapped out his location & it's 1hour & 30 minutes 1 way. I surely appreciate this but need a person with a 45 minute drive. I want & need hands on instruction where I know the correct positions to be in vs doing a virtual coach. I truly thank you for trying. I seriously want to learn Stack & Tilt but I guess I'm going to have to settle with Stack and Guess. 😆
@@robcheneygolf1 I just got off the phone with Dennis Sales and I was really all out on driving 1 hour & 3 minutes but after speaking with Dennis I said lets do this so I'm waiting on his availability. I need more show me less talk and Dennis is straight forward matching my demeanor. Thanks Rob, I'm Terry Young.
How do I keep my hands and arms from going too low and inside? I tend to overdo it.
On the backswing or in the follow-through?
@@robcheneygolf1 takeaway and backswing. I feel like I overdo the taking hands inside and pull the club too far inside.
Danny who was the gentleman in this video
Me!
@@robcheneygolf1😂😂
Just curious can u hit a fade with stack and tilt?
Yes, absolutely.
@@robcheneygolf1 could u do a video on that if its not too much hassle?
@@SamWize. I’ll add it to the list 👍🏻
I don’t understand why I try to set up the same every time and sometimes the driver is so easy and powerful and the next time I set up, I can tell I’m either going to hook or slice and there’s nothing I can do about it.
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Pure money!!!!!
💰
Its a shame the terrible audio quality of this very interesting video.
Apologies, Tony. I’ve improved the quality of the audio since this video. Hope you can enjoy future videos. 🙏🏻
Great video. You look like you have a very narrow stance for a driver?
Who is the guy suggesting the player go 80 20 weighting??
Andy Plummer
I've really been working the stack and tilt with the driver recently and have had great results. Had my first 300 yard drive, no more slice, it's amazing.
But... I'm hitting a lot of shots out of the heel now, any suggestions? Simply moving back an inch isn't working, and I'm still hitting the heel. Help!!