Great Video again Rob. Making my way through the "Stack & Tilt" book by Andy Plummer and your videos are a great addition to it. Look forward to seeing more great stuff on the channel.
Getting depth really set a lightbulb off. I was trying to get my left arm parallel to target when it was parallel to ground. Going to set up your grid and reprogram! Thanks Rob.
Hi Rob, watching your videos fills me with adrenaline, I just know I can do this and am convinced ST is my solution! Excellent addition to Plumer and Bennett's book which is not always easy to follow. I have always wondered about the grid on the mat, great explanation. Thanks so much, I will be contacting you on Skillest, so glad you're back!
Great video Rob, just interested to understand how your wrists work on the backswing. I have an issue with my wrist cupping and feel like I have to twist down to keep the wrist flat!
Hey Rob, I’ve started to use the stack and tilt system again after going away from it for years. I am hitting it pretty well for the most part but I’m finding that I hit it far a lot.
Rob! Been following your videos for a little while here and really love the stack and tilt. Have been seen some massive gains and great progress but one of my issues is I sometimes overturn it or start it straight and do a draw. Does that more than likely mean I'm overactive with the lower body and the hips turn over? Would love to see a video or something on that! Thank you!
Love this. Gives you a nice way to make sure you’re getting the most out of indoor practice as well! I would focus on the low point data going forward. Do you have driver specific videos for stack and tilt? I’m a good iron player but driver drives me bonkers! Low point is behind the ball for driver so is the swing completely the same but ball position just moved?
Hey there Rob. Love your instruction and S&T.... As it relates to Shoulder Down, what is the alternative to that i.e. what do other methods teach and how do they differ from S&T? Thanks...
Thanks for the series. This is really changing my game for the better. I have a question. When I’m standing over the ball at address should my arms be going straight down or should they be slightly angled forward?
Thanks Rob: this "hands in" move is a bit of a problem for me; it feels like my right shoulder is not rotating back; is this because my arms are moving in too quickly or not bending at my right elbow joint? Should I focus on rotating with my chest/right shoulder and keep the arms/club passive?
Thank you. Do to u have a specific question about the wrists in the follow-through? Is it related to club face control (direction) or the release (speed)?
@@robcheneygolf1 I was told I have too much left wrist bend in the finish and I need to compress the ball as I am casting so I bought the precision impact tool. So now I’m compressing the ball more but don’t know what to do with my wrist after I hit the ball. I’m assuming you turn them up after striking the ball? Sometimes I feel like I want to straighten my right wrist after impact but it feels weird when my arms are extended with the tool on. Just wanted to make sure. Thanks so much.
Hi Rob, really enjoy yr instruction…..I could be wrong but does S&T suit younger golfers more so than seniors? I’m 76 and, thanks to yr prodigious TH-cam output, am seriously thinking of adopting S&T after a lifetime of mediocre golf
Hi Robin. I definitely wouldn't say it suits younger golfers more. In fact, Stack&Tilt is the EASIEST swing to make on the body, as it uses the body and the joints in the way they are designed to move - not excessively stressing any part of the body by trying to "load up" or "coil" as per less effective swing concepts. So I'd encourage you to get involved and embrace the system to help you play your best ever golf!
Hey Rob, I was looking for a wonderful video you made where you built a station complete with rods and noodles and the grid to teach the proper swing alignment. I CANT FIND IT. COULD YOU TELL THE TITLE? Thanks Marshall
New to S&T swing. I've always fought fanning the club with my right wrist on takeaway. Swinging the club with hands in would seem to exacerbate my fanning fault? Any tips or drills on working to reduce my original swing fault while incorporating new S&T hands in?
Hi Kevin. I’ll try and make a video on this soon. In the meantime, think about keeping the club face pointing at the ball during the takeaway. Hope that helps.
Rob, I started taking lessons with a gal in La who’s a S & T instructor. Is it fair to say you “wind up”around your left axis with shoulder down and right hip up then drive hip level toward target at start of downswing?
@@robcheneygolf1 Gina Umeck I was using the swing key 🔑 to move everything around and up from my left shoulder staying in place and moving down on backswing
@@robcheneygolf1 I do value her immensely. If you care to comment on this please 🙏 do. I’ll be asking her this on Friday. I had been working on setting my right elbow to my midline and opening up the right forearm to abduct the right shoulder in and deep. I saw Nick Taylor do a lesson where instead of doing that he’d have his right elbow turned inward instead of outward then he’d aim more right and hit a significant draw. ✍️ Question if you care? Which do “you do”? And when I’m at the top I drive my lower body square to target line before anything else. Agree? Or should I apply “force” with my shoulders?
@@chroniclesofahighhandicapp4467 I'd do it the way Gina says. Nick's description is a PULL DRAW which has limitations once the loft of the club reduces. For your second question, your "lower body" move sounds like a good thought/feel, however, it's too difficult for me to say for sure without seeing your swing.
Hey Rob. Does the grid with the sticks start at the bottom of the swing arc? It seems it seems that the ball is set up about 2 or 3 ball widths behind the apex of the grid.
Rob, I understand arms in, but I’m coming so far from the inside out (to the right) on my downswing with the driver that I’m snap hooking trying to square the face. Do I need more hip rotation?
More hip rotation in the downswing *might* help reduce the excessive IN-to-OUT path, yes. But without seeing your swing, it's hard to say anything definitively.
Connectivity can only be established in the first 4 inches of the take-away. Once past that point you are already disconnected and there is no way of recovering. This is something Jack Nicklaus insisted upon all his life but never really did explain why But he did say, you cannot recover from a bad take-away. Hal Sutton said, "throughout my entire career my golf swing was only as good as the first 6 inches of my take-away. When it was good, I won". It is a little more difficult than it sounds. That's because there is no margin for error. Just the slightest little arm and/or shoulder snatch and you are disconnected from your body turn. Now the swing is all timing which does not repeat under a time delay. Works for me big time. I do two practice take-aways on every shot. I want to be assured that body turn is going to initiate the swing, not the arms and/or shoulders.. This is also how you carry your range game to the first tee. The need for timing is reduced dramatically. Everything is working together. Pro's also call this "tightening up their swing". That's because that is exactly what it does. Even your swing looks to me like a bit of a disconnected arm swing.
Not sure if you’ll see this Rob, but do you have any specific videos/drills to help fix an over the top/out to in swing path? I scoured your TH-cam page and didn’t see anything. Thanks!
Towel across your chest, under each armpit. Swing without having the towel dropping. Will keep the club shallow and back to the ball. Keep your tilt and you will get a shallow circular swing. My suggestion, which you may have tried already.
The club head appears to be behind the hands at P3 and P4. Is this an illusion? The red stakes do not cross behind the yellow stakes on the grid. I am confused.
Here's the question: Do you try to swing left from impact...because your sticks go left starting at impact. Hogan's level left? Or do we try to follow through towards the target? Both schools of thought have been taught and I'd say the latter taught much more than the former.
Instead of the sticks really what would better illustrate the angles is an hula hoop or a piece of string in a half circle ⭕. Think of it this way: a pendulum moves on a steady arc. There is no sudden change of angle.
When you say downswing follows that… my initial movement is ‘out’ in the downswing which isn’t correct. Should I bring the butt of the club down (sort of inside) which would change my shoulder tilt. I’m forever coming over the top even with stack and tilt. I changed to S&T because I couldn’t find the downswing!!!All coaches say just let it drop but that’s not easy when everything is happening so quickly. Should we feel like we’re splashing/whipping/skimming a stone…. So much depends on a good downswing movement and I just can’t find it. Thank you for taking the time to sort me out as I’m thinking of giving up. I’m 16 handicap and 71 years old female in Australia. I’ve been playing for 10 years and I play four times a week. Driving me mad!!!!
I find it very hard to keep my hands in after strike and my divots always point to right of target. Any tips on how to keep the hands in for the follow-through? Cheers!
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That is the first time I have understood what the grid is for. Knowing that practice improved and so did strike. Sincere thanks.
You are welcome! Happy the video was so helpful for you. 👍🏻
Welcome back Rob! Great to see new content from you.
Thank you, John!
Hi Rob-Nice to see you back on U-Tube. Be good-Russ
Glad you found the new channel!
Great Video again Rob. Making my way through the "Stack & Tilt" book by Andy Plummer and your videos are a great addition to it. Look forward to seeing more great stuff on the channel.
Thank you! 🙏🏻👍🏻
Getting depth really set a lightbulb off. I was trying to get my left arm parallel to target when it was parallel to ground. Going to set up your grid and reprogram! Thanks Rob.
That’s great, Ian. So glad the video was helpful for you! 👍🏻
Thank you Rob your instructions easy to understand and making sense.
Appreciate the comment. Thanks for following and I’m happy the video was so helpful! 👍🏻
This series is very helpful, thank you.
You're very welcome!
Great video, 🏌🏿great to have you back on utube.
Thanks for the support, Paul!
Hi Rob, watching your videos fills me with adrenaline, I just know I can do this and am convinced ST is my solution! Excellent addition to Plumer and Bennett's book which is not always easy to follow. I have always wondered about the grid on the mat, great explanation.
Thanks so much, I will be contacting you on Skillest, so glad you're back!
Can’t wait to help you directly! Thank you for watching and supporting the videos!
Great lesson! Thanks.
Thank you! 🙏🏻
Great video Rob, just interested to understand how your wrists work on the backswing. I have an issue with my wrist cupping and feel like I have to twist down to keep the wrist flat!
That feel can definitely work. Many golfers need to FEEL a twisting to keep the wrist in a flat condition.
Hi Rob,
What's the distance on the grid between the front stick and back?
Hey Rob, I’ve started to use the stack and tilt system again after going away from it for years. I am hitting it pretty well for the most part but I’m finding that I hit it far a lot.
I think you mean “fat” shots, right? Try keeping your weight more forwards th-cam.com/video/EbgLnmhhubY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=gq2VPOM-DbxXOMDR
Thank you Rob! How do you setup the grid?
Excellent explanation!
Glad it was helpful!
Rob! Been following your videos for a little while here and really love the stack and tilt. Have been seen some massive gains and great progress but one of my issues is I sometimes overturn it or start it straight and do a draw. Does that more than likely mean I'm overactive with the lower body and the hips turn over? Would love to see a video or something on that! Thank you!
Fantastic, thank you.
Glad you liked it, Mark! 👍🏻
Love this. Gives you a nice way to make sure you’re getting the most out of indoor practice as well! I would focus on the low point data going forward. Do you have driver specific videos for stack and tilt? I’m a good iron player but driver drives me bonkers! Low point is behind the ball for driver so is the swing completely the same but ball position just moved?
Driver video coming out tomorrow! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Hey there Rob. Love your instruction and S&T.... As it relates to Shoulder Down, what is the alternative to that i.e. what do other methods teach and how do they differ from S&T? Thanks...
The resistance model would typically teach a more LEVEL shoulder turn (with less tilting).
Thanks for the series. This is really changing my game for the better. I have a question. When I’m standing over the ball at address should my arms be going straight down or should they be slightly angled forward?
Slightly forwards, as the hands are forward. Remember the left arm and shaft should form a straight line.
Thanks Rob: this "hands in" move is a bit of a problem for me; it feels like my right shoulder is not rotating back; is this because my arms are moving in too quickly or not bending at my right elbow joint? Should I focus on rotating with my chest/right shoulder and keep the arms/club passive?
Great drill
Thanks!
Rob your videos are awesome and helpful. Can you please do one on the finish and what to do with you wrist. Thanks.
Thank you. Do to u have a specific question about the wrists in the follow-through? Is it related to club face control (direction) or the release (speed)?
@@robcheneygolf1 I was told I have too much left wrist bend in the finish and I need to compress the ball as I am casting so I bought the precision impact tool. So now I’m compressing the ball more but don’t know what to do with my wrist after I hit the ball. I’m assuming you turn them up after striking the ball? Sometimes I feel like I want to straighten my right wrist after impact but it feels weird when my arms are extended with the tool on. Just wanted to make sure. Thanks so much.
9:22 can you show me how to set up the grid on the hitting mat ?
wow good drill👍
Thank for watching!
Thank you. Good Video.
Glad you liked it!
Hi Rob, really enjoy yr instruction…..I could be wrong but does S&T suit younger golfers more so than seniors?
I’m 76 and, thanks to yr prodigious TH-cam output, am seriously thinking of adopting S&T after a lifetime of mediocre golf
Hi Robin. I definitely wouldn't say it suits younger golfers more. In fact, Stack&Tilt is the EASIEST swing to make on the body, as it uses the body and the joints in the way they are designed to move - not excessively stressing any part of the body by trying to "load up" or "coil" as per less effective swing concepts. So I'd encourage you to get involved and embrace the system to help you play your best ever golf!
Great video. What drives the transition to downswing?
Hip sway
Hey Rob,
I was looking for a wonderful video you made where you built a station complete with rods and noodles and the grid to teach the proper swing alignment. I CANT FIND IT. COULD YOU TELL THE TITLE? Thanks Marshall
I don't think that video exists anymore, Marshall. It was on my old channel which I no longer own.
New to S&T swing. I've always fought fanning the club with my right wrist on takeaway. Swinging the club with hands in would seem to exacerbate my fanning fault? Any tips or drills on working to reduce my original swing fault while incorporating new S&T hands in?
Hi Kevin. I’ll try and make a video on this soon. In the meantime, think about keeping the club face pointing at the ball during the takeaway. Hope that helps.
@@robcheneygolf1I’d love to see a video on that precise topic.
Rob, I started taking lessons with a gal in La who’s a S & T instructor. Is it fair to say you “wind up”around your left axis with shoulder down and right hip up then drive hip level toward target at start of downswing?
Who are you taking lessons from? Your description could certainly be one way to think about it.
@@robcheneygolf1 Gina Umeck
I was using the swing key 🔑 to move everything around and up from my left shoulder staying in place and moving down on backswing
@@chroniclesofahighhandicapp4467 Gina is an absolute STUD! You're fortunate to have her! 🙏🏻
@@robcheneygolf1 I do value her immensely. If you care to comment on this please 🙏 do. I’ll be asking her this on Friday.
I had been working on setting my right elbow to my midline and opening up the right forearm to abduct the right shoulder in and deep. I saw Nick Taylor do a lesson where instead of doing that he’d have his right elbow turned inward instead of outward then he’d aim more right and hit a significant draw. ✍️
Question if you care?
Which do “you do”?
And when I’m at the top I drive my lower body square to target line before anything else.
Agree? Or should I apply “force” with my shoulders?
@@chroniclesofahighhandicapp4467 I'd do it the way Gina says. Nick's description is a PULL DRAW which has limitations once the loft of the club reduces.
For your second question, your "lower body" move sounds like a good thought/feel, however, it's too difficult for me to say for sure without seeing your swing.
Hey Rob. Does the grid with the sticks start at the bottom of the swing arc? It seems it seems that the ball is set up about 2 or 3 ball widths behind the apex of the grid.
Good observation. The ball is placed just behind the apex/tangent for irons. It's placed on the apex/tangent for driver.
Rob, I understand arms in, but I’m coming so far from the inside out (to the right) on my downswing with the driver that I’m snap hooking trying to square the face. Do I need more hip rotation?
More hip rotation in the downswing *might* help reduce the excessive IN-to-OUT path, yes. But without seeing your swing, it's hard to say anything definitively.
Connectivity can only be established in the first 4 inches of the take-away. Once past that point you are already disconnected and there is no way of recovering. This is something Jack Nicklaus insisted upon all his life but never really did explain why But he did say, you cannot recover from a bad take-away. Hal Sutton said, "throughout my entire career my golf swing was only as good as the first 6 inches of my take-away. When it was good, I won". It is a little more difficult than it sounds. That's because there is no margin for error. Just the slightest little arm and/or shoulder snatch and you are disconnected from your body turn. Now the swing is all timing which does not repeat under a time delay. Works for me big time. I do two practice take-aways on every shot. I want to be assured that body turn is going to initiate the swing, not the arms and/or shoulders.. This is also how you carry your range game to the first tee. The need for timing is reduced dramatically. Everything is working together. Pro's also call this "tightening up their swing". That's because that is exactly what it does. Even your swing looks to me like a bit of a disconnected arm swing.
Thank you sir
Your welcome! 👍🏻
Not sure if you’ll see this Rob, but do you have any specific videos/drills to help fix an over the top/out to in swing path? I scoured your TH-cam page and didn’t see anything. Thanks!
Towel across your chest, under each armpit. Swing without having the towel dropping. Will keep the club shallow and back to the ball.
Keep your tilt and you will get a shallow circular swing. My suggestion, which you may have tried already.
Is it correct to say that tees under armpits also results in arms closer together?
Good question. It *could* help with keeping the arms closer together, but I wouldn’t say that it’s automatically connected.
When we take our hands on the backswing, are we then taking the club to 11 O'clock, would that also be a good reference?
Can I check where is 12 o'clock in your point of reference? Trying to make sure I understand correctly.
Thank you Rob, having watched the video again and practiced this, I think I've got it😀
The club head appears to be behind the hands at P3 and P4. Is this an illusion? The red stakes do not cross behind the yellow stakes on the grid. I am confused.
Here's the question: Do you try to swing left from impact...because your sticks go left starting at impact. Hogan's level left? Or do we try to follow through towards the target? Both schools of thought have been taught and I'd say the latter taught much more than the former.
Good question. Waiting for the answer
Instead of the sticks really what would better illustrate the angles is an hula hoop or a piece of string in a half circle ⭕. Think of it this way: a pendulum moves on a steady arc. There is no sudden change of angle.
When you say downswing follows that… my initial movement is ‘out’ in the downswing which isn’t correct. Should I bring the butt of the club down (sort of inside) which would change my shoulder tilt. I’m forever coming over the top even with stack and tilt. I changed to S&T because I couldn’t find the downswing!!!All coaches say just let it drop but that’s not easy when everything is happening so quickly. Should we feel like we’re splashing/whipping/skimming a stone…. So much depends on a good downswing movement and I just can’t find it. Thank you for taking the time to sort me out as I’m thinking of giving up. I’m 16 handicap and 71 years old female in Australia. I’ve been playing for 10 years and I play four times a week. Driving me mad!!!!
Anyone know who’s swing he showed at the beginning of the video?
Aaron Baddeley
Aaron Baddeley
I find it very hard to keep my hands in after strike and my divots always point to right of target. Any tips on how to keep the hands in for the follow-through? Cheers!
Did you try the "tees under arms" drill from this video?