Everyone is Stacked & Tilted - How To Make A Centered Pivot Like The Pros
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- Originally vilified by the golf instruction industry for suggesting a "no weight shift" backswing, Stack&Tilt has now become the STANDARD PROCEDURE for the best golfers worldwide.
The "traditional" shift back, shift through golf swing model that was taught for decades has gradually, but unequivocally been replaced by the "centered" golf swing. A "no shift" or "stacked" backswing, followed by a progressive movement of the WEIGHT FORWARD (lower body) in the downswing.
Accurately describing the three-dimensional movement of the spine in their book almost 20 years ago, Andy Plummer and Mike Bennett shifted the paradigm of golf instruction like nobody else in recent history. The information in that book still holds true to this day and if you want to make a centered backswing like the best players do to help you make more consistent contact and have greater control of your golf ball, then this video will outline to you the exact way to do it via the EXTENSION, TILTING and TURNING of the spine throughout the backswing.
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Dude if I spent 5 days with this guy with the effort & work I'm willing to put into my golf game I'd be a 6 Handicapp or less. GUD LAWD!!!!
"Left shoulder down & in & under the chin." I was thinking about this recently & went back & watched video of my swing. It jumped off the screen that I didn't have my shoulder under my chin & not enough width in my backswing. I started practicing this in the rec room using it as my first thought. I was also frustrated with how little distance I got on my drives last year. I went out two days ago utilizing this swing thought & my God I was bombing my drives out there. On the last hole I outdrove my golf partner by about 40 yards. He says, Geez, look where your drive is! Hey, I just turned 80, but yesterday's performance with the driver had me elated. Weight forward & shoulder under the chin has really improved my driving!
That’s awesome! Love to read these comments 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Every time my swing gets into a slump and scores suffer, I go back to basics w this Cheney guy. It’s always gotten me back out of slumps. Shot 69 today after a miserable 88 last week. Thanks Rob!!
Wow! Awesome!!! 🤩
How'd you do on the back nine?
I haven't had a lot of time to work on the swing on the range but did a lot in my living room. Last time I played I shot a 109, today I shot a 91. I hope I can keep getting better. Thanks.
That's great! I often tell people you can do a lot of great work away from the range/course. Drills at home are a great way to learn new movement patterns.
At last I'm having great success with this swing and l love it,you do tell it all but it's up to us to put it together, thanks Rob.
Great to hear! 👍🏻
Really good instruction. So well explained.
Cheers, RC! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks Rob.
I had heard of 'The Stack And Tilt Swing', but hadn't yet stumbled across it proper until this particular video. It seems like such a natural way to think about the swing, as I'm not sure there is any other way to perform the proper swing.
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I would add that, after watching myriad golf videos of various swing tips by various experts, a couple of things that work for me are hardly, if ever, referred to: one being the thought of keeping one's weight "inside the rear instep" and thus, "inside the rear thigh" on the takeaway/backswing; and, the other being to transfer the weight to the lead side very early via the thought of "crushing a can" under the ball of the lead foot or "replanting the lead heel".
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These two swing thoughts can be incorporated separately with practice, and once the weight is kept inside the rear instep/thigh (simply think: "instep" or "thigh") on the backswing, then the thought of crushing the can under the ball of the lead foot (simply think: "crush!") or replanting the lead heel (simply think: "heel!") on the downswing can be used as a singular on-course swing thought. This has worked very well for me.
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I offer the above two swing thoughts as a way to remove any extraneous mechanical swing thoughts once the "stack and tilt" muscle-memory has been ingrained, and to simplify the repeatability of the entire swing; again, simply think: "instep" (or "thigh"), then "crush!" (or "heel!").
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In essence, I've learned to swing from the ground-up. I use my feet to swing the club, hence, the swing thoughts: "instep", then "crush!". I hit the ball with my lead foot. Let me say that again for emphasis:
I hit the ball with my lead foot!
I think: "crush!"
Thanks, Mark. I made a video on “crushing the can” here - th-cam.com/video/V6LGbj47JJM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=eH2SVMUqpfPdW60L
Outstanding Rob. So well explained, for the first time I understand why my backswing has always been so limited. No tilt and swaying off the ball.
Good reminder Rob. ALWAYS helpful information. Stay well.-Russ
Thanks, Russ!
Thank you for yet another great video with very valuable tips!
Thanks for watching. Glad you found the video valuable!
Great video on good backswing to keep head still..my issue is my head tilt downwards on the downswing..
Definitely the best pedagogical approach. Your videos are just great! Can’t wait to take all this to the driving range :)
Thank you. Glad you like the videos!
After going through the brilliant video on stacked and tilt
The 'stack' derives from the upper half of your body, as it sits on top of the lead leg, with the 'tilt' being a result of the left shoulder pointing downwards in the backswing.
The Stack and Tilt Golf Swing is a new technique in golf that focuses on shoulder turn and spine inclination to achieve a stacked shoulder position above the hips and a tilted spine for power.
The tilt of the spine and shoulders is clear.
What is understood about the stacked position is in the back swing is the complete rotation coupled with the extention?
Love this content Rob, very clear. One question. You have the obstacle to the right of your head yet I often see others with it to the left. I suspect this is to encourage a slightly different feel but perhaps you can shed light on why?
Love it. Works for me!!
Great to hear, Steve!
Great swing video tips
Great view, thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
What is the power source of the swing. Certainly, the lead leg pushing up and straightening. But do you also pull with the lead arm and lats? Is there a trail wrist release? Most, if not all swings that produce big distance have some kind of catapult action that I'm not sure I see here. Thanks!
Great explanation!
Thanks 🙏🏻 Glad it was helpful!
Hi Rob, I'm a senior player and I 've a problem's with the driver. At the present time I'm trying the stack and tilt which appears to be working however I can't seem to slow the down swing which causes a top shot. Can you suggest how I can slow it down. many thanks Derek Edwards
Rob Great channel and video I love your swing May I ask is your release horizontal hinging - do you prefer it over angled and why Thank You
I prefer angled if I’m allowed to choose. I try to trace the Grid with the club and the hands after impact but my tendency is to get too much CF pattern and run out of right arm, so I found I was able to keep the face to path more functional and repeatable using this pattern of more horizontal arm hinge with more vertical wrist hinge (if that makes sense?).
@@robcheneygolf1 Thank You for timely response I'll stick with horizontal
Stack and tilt works best for me when I feel that most of my weight is on my left side at the top. Is that correct?
Yep, that’s definitely correct! 👍🏻
I am hitting the ball really solid, compressed, and feeling better than when I was in my 20’s playing professionally with Stack and tilt. The only issue I’m having right now is I am pulling shots. Could it be cuz my hands are going too outside on the downswing? Am I opening up too quickly? I’m stumped.
Pulls could be a swing path that is outside-in (as you say), or the club face is getting too closed at impact. Try setting up with the face slightly more open and see if that helps you.
Hi Rob, I love your content and have shared with friends who are struggling, esp the Hit hard Stop quick drill. can you creat a video showing the GFR on plates so we can understand how you are using the ground and generate power in your swing?
Thank you, Andrew. I appreciate the support! Unfortunately, I don't have access to force plates currently, so I'm not able to do the requested video at this time.
Awesome!
Thanks 🙏 Glad you think so!
Hi Rob,
A quick question - when you are stacked on the left foot, how do you prevent the reverse pivot ? This is the opposite of swaying away from the target
You simply continue moving the weight more towards the target in the downswing and follow-through. I would watch Scottie Scheffler’s swing and copy his move as he is the most forward of anyone on the PGA Tour and (not coincidentally) the best player in the world! 👍🏻
I meant on the backswing - how do you prevent tilting towards the target ?
@@sanjayverma4068 I explain the movement in the video.
How about describing it as an “upswing” Rob ?
Could the feeling at the top, the extension, be described as feeling a little like a high jumper going over the bar?
That’s a great description! 👍🏻
This issue is really killing my game. I had my right shoulder reconstructed and I got flat and couldn’t raise my arms. I was getting speed from turning too much. I am losing hope that I’ll ever get this move down. I’m very discouraged. I’m going to give this a try. I’ve been putting something on my forehead. But I like the by the head placement. I hope this works. I can’t play like this anymore.
Give it a try and let me know how you get on. 🙏🏻
Give this a try, also watch Saguto golf on TH-cam he is also a stack and tilt guy, I have been taking lessons from 2 teachers that do a regular type swing, they helped me with some basic fundamentals but I’ve been trying this for 2 weeks and I’m a believer. It really helps me hit the same spot on the ground and get through the ball like I’ve never been able to do before plus I’m hitting the ball further
I had my left shoulder replaced last summer so tough keeping lead ( left) arm straight very long
Trying to work on Rob’s “ Tilt-Turn-Extend Centered mantra to hopefully get a “ longer” swing and get some distance back. Always good stuff from him😊
Ok, I get what u are saying, but my question is, what if one is not very flexible? Do u have drills for flexibility?
Which part of this movement can you not execute? Where are you not flexible enough?
I’m my 25 years of teaching golf, I would say I’ve maybe met one person who is genuinely NOT flexible enough to make a functional backswing. Everyone else just lacks the knowledge of HOW to move. If you tell me which part of the 3 movements you’re deficient in (extension, tilt, turn), then I’ll try and recommend a way to help you get more.
@robcheneygolf1 Wow, I can't believe u responded, and so quickly. Thank u. I do the shoulder turn w my head on the wall and I can not get my right shoulder all the under my chin, and going fwd I feel I need to stand up to finish the turn.
I had this exact problem until a week ago. Saw my PT and said I needed more flexibility. We did some mobility tests and I have more mobility than almost everyone. I was missing the extension piece. Once I realised that it all came together and I was flushing irons consistently straight away. Feels like it's all just clicked now - same power, more consistency. Brilliant !
I'm trying to apply S&T to my swing, but this method seems to have increased my tendency to not be able to raise my hands on the backswing. In fact, when I try to use the S&T, at the end of my backswing the grip is very far back, very low (a little above the waist line) in an exaggeratedly laid off position.
That does sound too low. What is it that makes your hands so low? Can you not raise them higher?
I feel like my backswing is fine, but when I watch it in the DTL video, my lead forearm is almost horizontal below the shoulder line with my hands behind the heel line.
This is surprisingly easy to keep your head still on the back swing...
Exactly! Super simple once you know how! 👍🏻
What attachment is that on the irangesports tripod to hold the alignment stick?
It’s not an attachment at all, the alignment stick is slid between the magnet plate and the ball joint and adjusted until it fits, then I tightened the screw. It’s a bit of a fiddle, but I’ve found it works well.
Thanks for the quick reply and detailed explanation. Do you offer lessons virtually?
@@SuperDmcooper yes, I just saw your message and was about to email you. I’m on Skillest
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The problem with stack and tilt is a reverse pivot. Need to be mindful of this.
How would you define a “reverse pivot”?
@@robcheneygolf1 weight too far forward at the top of the backswing, head in front of the ball causing the player to compensate on downswing by playing off the back foot and falling backwards.
@@brokenspell4851 I think your description is of the reverse pivot is solid, but, just so we’re clear, that’s not what Stack&Tilt is at all.
@@robcheneygolf1 agree, I myself employ the stack and tilt method but found myself verging on reverse pivot. Simply pointing out if a new player is considering s&t be mindful of rp.
Ps enjoy your videos and instruction style.
Watch all your content and really appreciate it but to say that no one shifts into their trail side is just plain wrong. Most if not all the better players shift going back and re centre during transition and this dynamic movement is crucial for generating speed. Gears capture of their swing removes any room for debate. It might be subtle but it’s definitely there.
I hear you. I wasn’t trying to say that there’s no shift at all (or that there is a small shift in pressure P1-P2), my point is that the masses of golfers move way too far off the ball and that’s a huge issue. I also do not believe the pressure shift is necessary and that it only serves to complicate the movement for the average golfer. So in general, no shift at all is how *MOST* golfers should think about this.
@@robcheneygolf1 You describe the problem perfectly and it is a complicated move. Too many instructors over estimate our ability to execute it so less is definitely better. Tx again for all your excellent content.
It very subtle, but for the ave guy that can't break 100,most can't even walk n chew gum at same time, less shift the better,and when most hacks try to load up,they shift so far off the ball,hogan, Trevino, or jack couldn't recover from it,most these instructors are talking to handicaps over ten,most over twenty
Backswing: shortest efficient way to the top..!
Rory shifts
Shifts what?
@@robcheneygolf1weight …
Very confusing 😢
What’s confusing ? 🤔