Now it’s impossible for him to leave the city of Buffalo. Despite not winning a Super Bowl here in Buffalo he means more to this city than anyone could ever imagined. He’s so well loved here in Buffalo that it’s mind boggling and his two beautiful daughters are as die hard Bills fans as this great QB was. He doesn’t have the Kelly club suites named after him for no reason. He’s been through hell and back but his toughness, determination and his faith with God and support of the fans get him through the rough times.
I'm a Chicago Bears fan and have nothing but Respect for Jim Kelly. I was at his HOF induction because my family went there for Dan Hampton's and they were the same class
sean cotter my dad lives in Rockford Illinois and is a huge Bears fan. I have respect for that organization as well as I went to the Bears vs Bills game in 2014. That was the most fun away game I’ve ever been too. That stadium and fan base was phenomenal.
I don't blame him for not wanting to play in the cold. I'm from the, Midwest. It's basically cold from October to, May. Last year it was still 30 degrees in, June! We get all the weather. Tornadoes, earthquakes, thunderstorms, sleet, snow, hail etc..hell I've seen it do four of those things in one damn day. It's always windy, and there's nothing to do. I really get where he's coming from. Lol
Seems to me it worked out well for all parties involved in the long run with Jim Kelly signing with the Houston Gamblers. For Kelly, it allowed him to play immediately and develop on a professional level. If he had signed with Buffalo, he would have sat behind veteran Joe Ferguson. Kelly also had the opportunity to develop as a passer in the run and shoot. At the same, time Buffalo was going 2-14 in 84 and 85 so it might not have been the best environment for a young QB. When the USFL folded, the Bills had a more polished rookie QB. Also, Kelly's experience in the R&S would serve him well running the K-Gun that got the Bills to the Super Bowl.
The k gun stem from the run and shoot offense..on difference is in the 4th wr is a TE in da k gun...alot of the passing concepts and principles are simliar
It's been written out of history in Buffalo, but Kelly wasn't well-liked when he finally came to Buffalo, after all this had happened, then he went 10-18 in his first two seasons (not counting the strike games) with less than impressive numbers. He was getting booed in those days (watch the first half of game 6 of his 3rd season vs. The Colts to hear him being roundly booed at home in Buffalo - I was there.) Ironically, that was the very game where Kelly-Thomas-Reed was truly born, and they went on to win that one.
I don't think it's been written out. His first years of growing pains NFL ball have been overshadowed by his Super Bowl run of the early 90s and K-Gun offense. His mediocre QB play was still greater than the mid-80s Bills. When he signed in 1986, there was a rush on Bills tickets the next day.
Bills played their HOME games in another Country a couple times a year for a some seasons about 10 years ago. Idiot drunks not knowing how to behave destroying property, racist slurs being shouted like its a bodily function by the overrated bills mafia. Yeah that's some great culture there. I loved it when the fans didn't show up wanting the bills to move, those were great times
Jim Kelly was such a class guy, just as good at times as Elway and Marino. 4 straight AFC crowns. 4 straight SB's . Think his toughness and decision making really helped the Bills get there. And the likes of Bruce Smith, Cornelius Bennett, Andre Reed and Thurman Thomas helped. How's he doing these days, heard he had throat cancer. Again, Kelly came from the great QB in 1983.
First, don't knock your own mom down. You never know when you get something you don't want. Lol. Second off, though, is to learn that just because it's something you don't want does not mean it's not best for you.
Tampa? Steve Young was there. Steve went 3-16 as a starter in Tampa. They were a terrible franchise back then. So bad, Steve wanted out and he got traded to San Francisco for two pucks a 2nd and 4th and then backed up Joe Montana for three years.
I saw Jim play for the Houston Gamblers, in that run and shoot offense. He was incredible. It was like watching a young Joe Namath, only Jim was healthy below the waste, and he could move.
@@RichV20 I will say during his early years when he decided to run it was surprising. He had some speed. Nothing crazy obviously. In his later years though..not so much. Lol
@@andyc9979Yep, Jim could move pretty well for a few years. His arm was a cannon back in them days. His legs started taking major hits in 1992 in the season finale at Houston, and then a few weeks later in the Super Bowl vs Dallas he suffered that game ending same leg injury. Dallas went for his legs. John Randle of the Minnesota Vikings put a cheap shot on Kelly’s knee in 1994 ending his season and the drive for five. Jim had some moments in 1995, but he was never the same. By 1996 it was clear Jim had no legs under him anymore and Jim retired.
The USFL was awesome. Some groundbreaking offensive styles It was great back then. Having both leagues. When the NFL was worth a crap. The NFL has been an unwatchable product for years now. Supposedly the USFL is coming back. Hope they fit in the Gamblers somehow. Dope uniforms and logos. One of the best in the history of the game.
See I’d agree if not for one thing ALL of the Best player would got to one team. That would lead to a lot of wasted careers (which if you haven’t noticed it’s what’s happening now, even with the draft).
@@kghostthegreat no they would not. A team only signs 2 or 3 quarterbacks a year and has a salary cap but that's irrelevant. It's against every HR rule I know of.
Damn I had no idea he had that hate for Buffalo & even made that quip about preferring Houston in that interview Did Bills fans boo him or give him alot of hell when he finally arrived in Buffalo?
Buffalo fans should really hold this against him… despite being beloved now. That was 3 years he could have started earlier and could have won a super bowl. Instead… we got a guy that was 29/30 until he made his first. Time wasted and potentially a title that never happened due to his selfishness.
What are you talking about? Kelly took a losing team to 4 consecutive Super Bowls. You can't blame him alone for those losses. The first one was from a missed field goal.
@@adamwarlock3530he also was already 30-years-old by the time he went to his first SB. Maybe if he would have signed right away, the Bills could have gotten 13 years out of Kelly and wouldn’t have suffered for those 3 extra years
Banana Joe that nightclub he own owned in the Main Place Mall he's stiffed a lot of people all those Mercy flights were all paid for other than Jim Kelly as well
I'd forgotten how much shade he threw at us - "Would you rather play for Houston or Buffalo, I'll stop right there" 😠😠😠 very glad Josh Allen had no such qualms and will lead the Bills where Kelly never could
th-cam.com/video/Sg_Xj8D4wpc/w-d-xo.html Look at the 2:02 mark on the linked video. This narrative about Bills Mafia only being white people is foolishness and not sure where it started. Because Bruce Smith met some racists in a bathroom in 1991 ? This is a franchise that had Marlin Briscoe and Tyrod Taylor and EJ Manuel as QB's.
Works pretty good for you though didn't it Jimmy? City embraced you gave you a lot of money in which you have not paid back what about that night club you once owned in the Main Place Mall?
People asking how the Bills lost four straight Super Bowls? Look at this man right here look at his stats one of the main reasons why we lost four straight Super Bowls is because of the way he performed
The lost to 3 really good teams. If they played the 49ers of that era they still would’ve lost. The top AFC teams were behind in overall coaching and defense.
@@jonmolina948They might’ve beaten the 49ers in 92-93. The 49ers weren’t overly great those two years. The Bills went into candlestick park and beat the 49ers in 1992.
Yeah, cuz he was on his ass and under constant pressure in 3/4 of those Super Bowls. The Bills line play on both sides of the ball is why they lost the last three Super Bowls. Look at Thurman Thomas’s stats as well in the last three Super Bowl losses. Give Kelly and Thomas the lines Emmitt and Aikman had and they win all four.
Those Bills Teams were awesome but Buffalo as a state sucks (with all due respect). They should be glad that for 4 consecutive years, the Bills made them, at the very most, the 2nd most important place in the world in the NFL...
Now it’s impossible for him to leave the city of Buffalo. Despite not winning a Super Bowl here in Buffalo he means more to this city than anyone could ever imagined. He’s so well loved here in Buffalo that it’s mind boggling and his two beautiful daughters are as die hard Bills fans as this great QB was. He doesn’t have the Kelly club suites named after him for no reason. He’s been through hell and back but his toughness, determination and his faith with God and support of the fans get him through the rough times.
I'm a Chicago Bears fan and have nothing but Respect for Jim Kelly. I was at his HOF induction because my family went there for Dan Hampton's and they were the same class
sean cotter my dad lives in Rockford Illinois and is a huge Bears fan. I have respect for that organization as well as I went to the Bears vs Bills game in 2014. That was the most fun away game I’ve ever been too. That stadium and fan base was phenomenal.
And if you include his USFL stats (which you should as it was a Pro Football League!), Jim Kelly is pretty underrated
And I'm a GIANTS fan but began making good money betting the Bills after they scored three TDs in a minute nine against Denver in 1990.
Hell yeah.. well said 👏🏻
This was an amazing show that ESPN put together
One of the toughest son of a gun quarterbacks to ever play the game. Aussie Bengals fan since '81
I don't blame him for not wanting to play in the cold. I'm from the, Midwest. It's basically cold from October to, May. Last year it was still 30 degrees in, June! We get all the weather. Tornadoes, earthquakes, thunderstorms, sleet, snow, hail etc..hell I've seen it do four of those things in one damn day. It's always windy, and there's nothing to do. I really get where he's coming from. Lol
The Buffalo Bills are 1 of my favorite teams. I understand that many don’t want to play for them is because the city in Buffalo is so super cold.
Seems to me it worked out well for all parties involved in the long run with Jim Kelly signing with the Houston Gamblers. For Kelly, it allowed him to play immediately and develop on a professional level. If he had signed with Buffalo, he would have sat behind veteran Joe Ferguson. Kelly also had the opportunity to develop as a passer in the run and shoot. At the same, time Buffalo was going 2-14 in 84 and 85 so it might not have been the best environment for a young QB. When the USFL folded, the Bills had a more polished rookie QB. Also, Kelly's experience in the R&S would serve him well running the K-Gun that got the Bills to the Super Bowl.
The k gun stem from the run and shoot offense..on difference is in the 4th wr is a TE in da k gun...alot of the passing concepts and principles are simliar
QB Bills is a legend in Buffalo 🦬..grew up at the right time, watching those Kelly led late 80s & early 90s teams. We should have won XXV.
There's been plenty of players who didn't want to be in buffalo but once they did, they fall in love.
When he says round, you can tell he's a Pittsburgh boy.
This will be Josh Allen in 10-15 years
I don't think so.
With getting drafted in the first round should be good for him, it was so much prize after play in college at Wyoming.
Kelley a Buffalo legend
El mejor documental de 30 for 30
1:57... those were lies. Of all those '83 QBs, I think Kelly is the one I'd most like to have a beer with
Super relatable guy...great leader...he should have a Super Bowl ring
@@mikeyoungblood1642 At least a ring for the SB against the Giants, that game should've been Buffalo's.
It's been written out of history in Buffalo, but Kelly wasn't well-liked when he finally came to Buffalo, after all this had happened, then he went 10-18 in his first two seasons (not counting the strike games) with less than impressive numbers. He was getting booed in those days (watch the first half of game 6 of his 3rd season vs. The Colts to hear him being roundly booed at home in Buffalo - I was there.) Ironically, that was the very game where Kelly-Thomas-Reed was truly born, and they went on to win that one.
I don't think it's been written out. His first years of growing pains NFL ball have been overshadowed by his Super Bowl run of the early 90s and K-Gun offense. His mediocre QB play was still greater than the mid-80s Bills. When he signed in 1986, there was a rush on Bills tickets the next day.
@2:38 the culture is *STILL* actually damn good
Bills played their HOME games in another Country a couple times a year for a some seasons about 10 years ago. Idiot drunks not knowing how to behave destroying property, racist slurs being shouted like its a bodily function by the overrated bills mafia. Yeah that's some great culture there. I loved it when the fans didn't show up wanting the bills to move, those were great times
Jim Kelly was such a class guy, just as good at times as Elway and Marino. 4 straight AFC crowns. 4 straight SB's . Think his toughness and decision making really helped the Bills get there. And the likes of Bruce Smith, Cornelius Bennett, Andre Reed and Thurman Thomas helped. How's he doing these days, heard he had throat cancer. Again, Kelly came from the great QB in 1983.
Much better than Turtle Marino
First, don't knock your own mom down. You never know when you get something you don't want. Lol. Second off, though, is to learn that just because it's something you don't want does not mean it's not best for you.
Class
How the f didn't he know the bills also had the 14th pick.i mean seriously.
I’m surprised he didn’t request a trade to Tampa or Los Angeles
Tampa? Steve Young was there. Steve went 3-16 as a starter in Tampa. They were a terrible franchise back then. So bad, Steve wanted out and he got traded to San Francisco for two pucks a 2nd and 4th and then backed up Joe Montana for three years.
I saw Jim play for the Houston Gamblers, in that run and shoot offense. He was incredible. It was like watching a young Joe Namath, only Jim was healthy below the waste, and he could move.
Healthy(minus knee/leg), yeah. Able to move... not so fast.
@@RichV20 I will say during his early years when he decided to run it was surprising. He had some speed. Nothing crazy obviously. In his later years though..not so much. Lol
@@andyc9979Yep, Jim could move pretty well for a few years. His arm was a cannon back in them days. His legs started taking major hits in 1992 in the season finale at Houston, and then a few weeks later in the Super Bowl vs Dallas he suffered that game ending same leg injury. Dallas went for his legs. John Randle of the Minnesota Vikings put a cheap shot on Kelly’s knee in 1994 ending his season and the drive for five. Jim had some moments in 1995, but he was never the same. By 1996 it was clear Jim had no legs under him anymore and Jim retired.
The USFL was awesome. Some groundbreaking offensive styles It was great back then. Having both leagues. When the NFL was worth a crap. The NFL has been an unwatchable product for years now. Supposedly the USFL is coming back. Hope they fit in the Gamblers somehow. Dope uniforms and logos. One of the best in the history of the game.
I agree bro. Loved football more than basketball my whole life but the NBA has been whooping their ass for the last couple of years
This is why the draft should be abolished. Jim Kelly should be able to go play for whomever he wants once he left school.
See I’d agree if not for one thing
ALL of the Best player would got to one team. That would lead to a lot of wasted careers (which if you haven’t noticed it’s what’s happening now, even with the draft).
@@kghostthegreat no they would not. A team only signs 2 or 3 quarterbacks a year and has a salary cap but that's irrelevant. It's against every HR rule I know of.
lol keep thinking that ryan
What documentary was this from? I'd love to watch the whole thing.
This is from the ESPN 30 for 30 documentary on the 1983 NFL Draft, called “From Elway to Marino”
Who does?
Damn I had no idea he had that hate for Buffalo & even made that quip about preferring Houston in that interview
Did Bills fans boo him or give him alot of hell when he finally arrived in Buffalo?
We all celebrated his arrival
The only certainty is if your drafted by the browns than your career is over before it begins.
not in the 80s. believe it or not the browns were actually GOOD back then. if it werent for Elway that is
Wait, where's the rest of the story? Lol
the 4 SB debacles?
in a row
If only Buffalo had a better QB. Would've won at least one of those super bowls.
Buffalo fans should really hold this against him… despite being beloved now. That was 3 years he could have started earlier and could have won a super bowl. Instead… we got a guy that was 29/30 until he made his first. Time wasted and potentially a title that never happened due to his selfishness.
What are you talking about? Kelly took a losing team to 4 consecutive Super Bowls. You can't blame him alone for those losses. The first one was from a missed field goal.
@@adamwarlock3530he also was already 30-years-old by the time he went to his first SB. Maybe if he would have signed right away, the Bills could have gotten 13 years out of Kelly and wouldn’t have suffered for those 3 extra years
Kelly stiffed his bar creditors. What a guy.
Banana Joe that nightclub he own owned in the Main Place Mall he's stiffed a lot of people all those Mercy flights were all paid for other than Jim Kelly as well
I'd forgotten how much shade he threw at us - "Would you rather play for Houston or Buffalo, I'll stop right there" 😠😠😠 very glad Josh Allen had no such qualms and will lead the Bills where Kelly never could
I mean was he wrong, your talking about Buffalo bro.
Josh Allen will win nothing. Gamblers are better than them
Until he discovered Buffalo was the white homeland then he loved it lol
What the hell are you talking about?
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Look at the 2:02 mark on the linked video. This narrative about Bills Mafia only being white people is foolishness and not sure where it started. Because Bruce Smith met some racists in a bathroom in 1991 ? This is a franchise that had Marlin Briscoe and Tyrod Taylor and EJ Manuel as QB's.
So is Jim Kelly a white nationalist.
Works pretty good for you though didn't it Jimmy? City embraced you gave you a lot of money in which you have not paid back what about that night club you once owned in the Main Place Mall?
why the hate?
People asking how the Bills lost four straight Super Bowls? Look at this man right here look at his stats one of the main reasons why we lost four straight Super Bowls is because of the way he performed
Getting to four straight Super Bowls is pretty damn impressive, regardless of the losses.
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Yep. Kelly is the worst playoff QB in the hall of fame bar none.
The lost to 3 really good teams. If they played the 49ers of that era they still would’ve lost. The top AFC teams were behind in overall coaching and defense.
@@jonmolina948They might’ve beaten the 49ers in 92-93. The 49ers weren’t overly great those two years. The Bills went into candlestick park and beat the 49ers in 1992.
Yeah, cuz he was on his ass and under constant pressure in 3/4 of those Super Bowls. The Bills line play on both sides of the ball is why they lost the last three Super Bowls. Look at Thurman Thomas’s stats as well in the last three Super Bowl losses. Give Kelly and Thomas the lines Emmitt and Aikman had and they win all four.
Those Bills Teams were awesome but Buffalo as a state sucks (with all due respect). They should be glad that for 4 consecutive years, the Bills made them, at the very most, the 2nd most important place in the world in the NFL...
Wimble Don Buffalo is a city not a state...
@@lucashartmann9201 Yeah, that's what I meant. My mistake...
You can say a place sucks and then say "with all due respect".... surely you realize just how ridiculous that sounds.
Buffalo is not a state genius
For some reason I don’t think I could be insulted by someone who doesn’t know the difference between a city and state
Shocking this guy had bad karma.
Jim Kelly never was very bright.
They should’ve taken Marino and Kelly just to do it.