today I shot the ar 15 for the first time ( I live in europe , so yeah it's a big thing for me ) and wow ... I shot indoors 100 meters with a small scope and it was dead on target . I can finally relate ( at least a little bit ) to the things you say , it was love at first shot.. I also shot a ruger mini m14 today , but the smile on my face came from the AR
As a man that has been a pistol enthusiast since adolescence and is now starting to get interested in, and learn about, the AR, I found this style of video to be absolutely fantastic. I'm really excited to see where this series goes and am positive that it will be a great learning experience for me. Thanks for taking the time to do these videos with not only shooting to show example, but also talking about what's going on as it's happening. Having the points of view and explanation from two different men is a great way to make sure as much ground is covered as possible. Great job guys.
I’m glad that Eric has Chad shoot in the videos. It’s good to see that Eric realizes Chad is a better Marksman and isn’t afraid of letting the viewers see the difference between skill levels. I’m far closer to a novice than most, and with more practice it’s good to see that an improvement in accuracy is attainable.
Thank you for making this video! I love my Colt M4gerys, and shooting basic rifles makes you appreciate the KAC and Noveske hot rods. Far too many AR15 owners get caught up in what they can bolt to the rifle, and put less time into rifle fundamentals.
This was perfect!! I just finished my first AR build, and I've been asking myself all the same questions about the "practical accuracy" of backup sights versus other optics. You guys are spot on! Loved the video, and love the channel.
Well done, gentlemen. Shooting iron sights is a skill. Learned on irons many years ago (the 70s), switched to optics in the 90s, then recently tried irons again. Horrified by how much I had forgotten and had to re-learn. Eric and Chad are extremely humble in this video.
You guys are a value to TH-cam and the gun community. Keep doing what you do. Looking forward to how the upgrades affect the accuracy of this rifle, like the optic Chad mentioned or a free float foregrip/quadrail
It would be cool if you guys repeated this exact video after every meaningful upgrade. That way the audience can see what sort of appreciable difference the free floating makes, the optics, etc. Just an idea.
I'm really enjoying this series. I've been wanting to build an AR for a long time, and the build video for this rifle is finally putting my butt in gear. I'm anxious to see what upgrades you do and how they perform. Keep up the good work!
Great topic Eric! Don't know how I missed this 4 yr old video of yours, but it is spot on. With all the guys and gals out their building their own, it good to have an idea of what to expect, accuracy wise., from their investment! Great job! Sincere thanks to you and the crew.
I love the sound of that sear resetting.. some sounds are just ingrained in my head without them being anything special.. i just love my ARs like hells angels love their bikes
I'm new to owning firearms and purchased a standard AR-15 (basic Saint) with similar iron sights. I've only fired it three times, but I love it. It has the nostalgia of my military experience, but was never in a career that required more than the once a year qualification. My goal since purchasing in Nov 2021, is to get a 1 inch MOA (wishful thinking) at 100 yards BEFORE I upgrade to a scope. With that said, I loved this video and the philosophy of working those iron sights to force my skill. I keep coming back to learn more! Thank YOU Eric and Chad for the candid, honest reviews!
A scope is not an upgrade, match conditioning the rifle is what you need to do, as well as shoot match grade ammunition. Then results will be all about Marksmanship Knowledge and Skill. For that to come to fruition you will want to get some training. There’s none better than that presented in the USAMU’s Small Arms Firing School.
This is basically my first ar. I took it out for the first time yesterday I am an amateur shooter. I was amazed at how accurate I was with iron sights. It really is love at first shot. I can't wait to build another one.
The AR platform is damn good. They're more accurate and more reliable than ever, too. Don't let anyone fool you, the .223 or 5.56 is a nasty round. I've used it on four-legged and two-legged targets and it has worked very well.
My AR is a S&W MP15 and is just like this one. I am looking forward to seeing what it can do with some glad on it. I just hope you guys will put something on it that the average Joe can afford... not a $1200.00 ACOG...
+Iraqveteran8888 can you please do a range video of the VZ52 Czech rifle...long time viewer been waiting for a review and havent spotted it in the background of any gun gripes videos near the sks's...
a friend of mine is on the swat team and he uses an average old colt for practice. the only thing hes had to change is the firing pin after tens of thousands of rounds. he got it for under 800.
Glad you did this. Proves that you don't need a tricked out railed, optic ar to shoot and be accurate out at distance. As long as you can make hits on man sized targets out at distance
Thanks for the vid. Just bought a Ruger AR-556 (which is about as basic as you can get) and zeroed it at 50 yards. Pretty confident that it will hit at 100 yards out to 250-300. Can't wait to test it out
My AR build ended up being a mid length 16 inch barrel HBAR. I actually ended up liking this set up better. I did have a couple of hick ups due to the mid length. First off, I bought the hand guard and gas tube as carbine length, and ended up having to buy mid length, then my buffer spring was a carbine spring too, That didn't show up until I finished the gun and fired it for functionality. It started short stroking. The empty case would eject but the next round didn't load. I did some research and ordered a chrome silicon buffer spring and that fixed the short stroke. It's a lighter spring, and evidently going from a carbine length to mid length, there just wasn't quite enough gas pressure to fully cycle with the carbine spring. But that worked out ok too, because the carbine spring has a life expectancy of around 12,000 rounds, but the chrome silicon spring has a life expectancy of around 750,000 rounds. Long past my rifles life expectancy or mine. I should never have a problem with it. Over all, I really enjoyed the build. I learned a lot and my supervisor wants me to build one for her too. She has to order her parts, then we'll sit down and start assembling. Looking forward to it.
thank you for all of the information that you put out in these videos.I have only been shooting for a few months and your videos has taught me so much.
Hey Guys, I just wanted to pop in and say thank you for your contribution to the 2nd amendment community, the youtube presence of our community, and the direction you have taken your channel. I started watching about 7 years ago in the Barry and Eric moss pawn and gun counter days, primarily the gun gripes vids. Love and keep up the good work.
After shooting an ar for the first time and using irons I really am impressed with your shooting. Hitting that gopher over and over.. I can only hope to get to that level.
Rifleman's Creed[1] This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my rifle is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will... My rifle and I know that what counts in war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit... My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will keep my rifle clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will... Before God I Swear This Creed my rifle and I are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life. So be it,
@Kasper Jam - get it RiGHT!!( hahahahahaha!) " the one, the only- all other versions are just watered down copies... Rifleman's Creed- Gen. William H. Rupertus , USMC (1941): ".... this is my rifle. there are many like it but this one is mine. my rifle is my best friend. it is my life. I must Master it as I must Master my life. without me my rifle is useless, without my rifle I am useless. I must fire my rifle true I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me . I will .... my rifle and I know that what counts in war is not the rounds we fire the noise of our burst nor the smoke we make we know that it is the hits that count we will hit.. my rifle is human even as I because it is my life thus I will learn it as a brother I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights, its Barrel I'll keep my rifle clean and ready even as I am clean and ready we will become part of each other we will ...before God I swear this Creed my rifle and I are the Defenders of my country we are the masters of our enemy we are the saviors of my life so be it until Victory is America's and there is NO enemy but peace !..."
Thanks. I'm doing my first basic AR 15 build myself(PSA Freedom Rifle)28th a few extra goodies such as a red dot and 3x magnifier Keep those videos coming! :)
yup, trigger reset. no idea why its that loud...but most ARs seem to be loud like that. however....the round you just fired is going to be louder, so its really not a problem.
that being said in the video bout upgrades like the free float and buffer... its still good to see that they re using the basics and still very accurate because a lot of us cant afford decent optics and these upgrades
The DOD standard for the M16A1 was 1 mil. That is 3 1/4 MOA. Mine shot better than that. With issue sights mine would hold a dime at 25 meters. That translates to about 2.4 MOA with iron. So the platform is inherently accurate.
I like the honest and straightforward way you guys teach us so much. I have one suggestion: Always talk about twist rate as it is fundamental to accuracy depending on bullet weight/length. For example, shooting a 1:9 TR with a 77g bullet is not going to work well past 75 yards no matter what length barrel you have. Very helpful if you would provide TR as standard info on all the rifles you test when talking about the ammo. Thanks again for all the education and great honest videos.
Man how I miss my time working with Ray at GA. R&Gs and Barry at Moss Pawn. In the time I worked at both occasionally we would have a hunter new to military-style rifles buy a base model AR 15, mini14 or Ak47 in responce to the threat of new gun bans. Later they would come back when it wasn't capable of the accuracy of their scoped deer rifle they would bad mouth the guns. You guys are doing an Awesome job of educating and entertaining, I recommend your channel to everyone.
My PSA freedom 15 that I bought for $299 out of the box with a MBUS rear sight I was putting rounds on at 227 yards in the prone position. It was incredible. Using MFS ammo to.
The first time I ever shot my AR, (Ruger AR556), the first thing that I did was shoot at a 12 inch gong at about 150 yrds, and it was zeroed right out of the box!
Kyle Rebo. i just grabbed one last weekend too. 500$ bnib, couldnt pass it up. i was tearing up bowling pins from 100 yds right out of the box. i was smiling from ear to ear
My first AR was CMMG LEM. She has sent well over 3000 rds down range and with the exception of some wear on the cam pin she still looks and preforms very well
Thomas Maierhoffer i have one of them JP buffer assault devices. All it does is make is make it a more comfortable shooting assault device by not making an annoying/cheap sounding spring rattle noise each time the bolt closes
I've been a subscriber for years and I LOVE your no-nonsense videos! One simple observation from the "viewer standpoint".....your PIP target camera really needs to be the LARGER part of the screen when watching rather than the shooting table. It's almost impossible to see the target impacts when watching....even in full screen.
@@TheMrkiddi Practical accuracy means operator error is included. This is what the military means by "effective" range and accuracy, it is determined by the average performance of individuals who participate in the testing.
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj showing what the rifle is capable of is practical. Operator error will vary depending on situations. Propping the rifle on a wall, truck, dirt hill, trench, ect will provide identical results given you are a competent shooter. Did you also want to take hos heart rate? Your Pratical accuracy would include that right?
I live in Europe, I have the Windham Weaponry M16a1, with Iron sights. I removed the carrier handle sight and replaced that with a Magpul flip down iron sight. With that configuration, I'm getting dinner plate size groupings at 300m. I have the sight zero'd at 25m. Fantastic weapon for a reliable SHTF scenario. My 8 and 14 year old are very comfortable shooting it, this is a great selling point.
not that long ago those "back up sights" were called the "rifles sights" and we Marines were able to use them "rifle sights" to hit out to 500 yards accurately :) we did this off hand, standing kneeling, prone, ect. no benches no sand bags to rest the rifle on. my my things have changed. might have to get me one of those observatory scopes thatll fit a rail so i can hit somethin with those new rifles lmao
Nothing better than watching ex military / active military firing an M4 Style rifle. hell yeah Eric. When you picked up the pace on the second string of fire, that shit gave me goosebumps. Keep up the good work man.
Well shorter people definetely will collaps the stock. I cant judge for tall people, as I am short myself, but I guess to have the eye closer to the sight.
Just depends on the persons preferred length of pull which is generally determined by height and arm length which determines how comfortable a certain lop is.
I honestly like to try different stances because each has benefits and draw backs. If I am shooting at medium to long ranges, I have the stock fully extended. Still, some people like to have their eye as close to the ghost ring or optic as possible. Since the 5.56 doesn't kick much, people have no issues having their nose up to the charging handle to get a bigger sight picture. I don't, but if I we're clearing a building, I would have the stock more collapsed to help make my silhouette smaller, make it easier to move in small areas and doors, and the tighter feel on the weapon helps maintain control while firing consistently in close quarters. Though, I almost never collapse the stock entirely. I usually have it at 3rd position on a six point stock. Also, when I was enlisted, body armor made firing with a fully extended stock uncomfortable, so when I was issued an M4 to replace my M16, it was nice to shorten the stock to make up for the extra space of my armor.
In the Marine Corps, to hit center on a 300 yard target you have to hit a 12 inch circle, Back in my day, we didn't have anything but open sights. At 200 yards, we used the same target but you had to shoot 5 rounds in the offhand, 5 kneeling, and 5 sitting and 10 rounds rapid fire from the kneeling. At 500 yards we were prone for 10 shots. To hit center you had to hit the 20 inch wide by 40 inch tall man silhouette. Out of a possible 250 points the best I ever did was 248. I went to the 500 with the possibility of getting a perfect score, but the wind had different ideas. We also had rapid fire at the 300 using the "D" target that was 26 inches wide by 19 inches tall half man silhouette. Fun days guys. You guys should do a video to recreate the old rifle range days and see if you can achieve the expert rating. If interested, I will give you the particulars and what we did on each firing line. Enjoy y'alls videos! This is my rifle this is my gun, this is for fighting this is for fun! Marines die, that's what we're for, but the Marine Corps will live forever and that means you live forever! We will conquer communism, with the aide of God and a few Marines!
If you have a 1:7 twist then you're way over stabilizing the 55s. That's why they're not shooting that well. Try some 77gr rounds and I bet they will shoot better. Nice videos though!
There is no such thing as over stabilizing a round.. Internet myth. Ideal Twist rate is determined by length of bullet not weight but heavier bullets tend to be longer. Some rifles like different weights in bullets or types of bullets in same weight. The only problem with fast twist and light bullets is sometimes a light jacketed high velocity bullet will come apart with to fast a twist. The 22-250 with a fast twist light bullets is the one most common with this problem. FMJ bullets will not have this problem.
This was very good to see what they mean by MOA and stringing once the barrel heats up. I heard about it on other youtube channels, but didn't get to see it to this degree.
Short answer- YES But your question is too open ended...... If you get a last ditch rifle and put garbage ammo through it, it can have up to 4-5MOA accuracy; But a well manufactured AK with Wolf Military ammo (any kind really) can easily match this level of accuracy. The whole difference is that 7.62×39 goes transonic several hundred yards before 5.56×45 will; although with 5.56 even shooting hot loaded, heavy grain bullets or something similar still doesn't have the terminal effect most people want at such ranges. (Pushing either cartridge beyond 500m involves fighting the wind a good deal as well) So, the long answer is- both platforms have had decades of R&D behind them as well as the ammunition they use, meaning within reasonable engagement distances (0-300yrds) with either platform; AK or AR, rifle or SBR, FMJ or HPBT, they will always out-perform the end user.(99.999% of the time). There are the few...
Stringing is basically where anamaloies such as barrel harmonics and heat start to cause groups to open up in a way where the throw shows in a vertical or horizontal line. The groups are still "consistent" but it's the odd factor that causes the groups to open up. The idea is that the same rifle would group reasonably well save for factors like handguard contact, barrel temperature, etc
When the barrel gets heated up then accuracy can loosen a bit. (A lot of guys use this as an excuse as to why they aren't shooting good.) A heavier contour barrel will maintain better rigidity and therefore be able to better sustain accuracy when heated. Naturally a lighter barrel due to its thinness will heat up easier and therefore be more susceptible to loosening accuracy. Floating barrels have less stresses on them therefore they can ideally deliver a little better accuracy plus they typically have better heat ventilation which can help the barrel cool down a little faster. Unless you shoot regularly, then getting a floating barrel is useless. Just go with a standard milspec M4 carbine configuration. For example I have a Colt M4 6920, Colt M4 6940 (meaning it has a floating barrel), and Colt M16A4, all with trijicon 4x32 ACOGs. I shoot at a 19" wide gong out to over 600 yards and I can't really tell the difference in accuracy between the three of them. All three rifles can very easily hit the gong at that distance if I get my wind direction right. So point being, don't get caught up in thinking you need to make all these stylish upgrades to your rifle.
I was shooting consistent 3-4" groups at 300 yards the other day. But, I was using a Vortex 1-6 Strike Eagle, with a free floated Mlok handguard. 1:7 twist chrome moly bbl. Cheap Federal bulk ammo(55g). Very happy with those results, tho. Mid-length gas system ejects at 3:00. And, it runs like a dream. DelTon makes a GREAT AR. Very good shooting, with irons guys. Pretty impressive.
Great demonstration of how one zero can be "minute of man" accurate out to 300 yards. The 50 yard zero, on my rifle, puts me 2" high at 100, 3" high at 150(apex), 2" high at 200, zero again at 285, and about 5" low at 300. My optics are mounted a little higher than normal. I'm a tall guy. This is the perfect zero, in my opinion. But, it really doesn't matter what zero that you choose, you just need to learn your rifle, at different distances. Get out and SHOOT! Ballistics calculators can help you get in the ballpark, but you MUST know your EXACT muzzle velocity, and your EXACT height of your optics, above your bore. Keep in mind that the advertised muzzle velocity on the box, is never correct. My average MV is around 2,950 fps, out of a 16" barrel. Great shooting guys! Especially with irons...
Stick with your white collar job and leave mil-specs to those of us who have done military work... you've not a clue what you're saying. I've worked on prints that boggled the minds of some really bright people, and there ain't nothing cheapin that...
2:28 I believe the small and large apertures on iron sights are used when shooting in low light/daylight conditions as well. Large aperture for night time, small for day time.
Wind, Head Trump's Turning and obviously you're are pissing your pants in that moment. Maybe shaking. Obviously by his appearance he wasn't a "strong man."
He didn't make his H.S. rifle team because it was said that he was a "comically" bad shot. So he was a terrible shot. He probably improved but you see he had 3 shots at 150 yards and missed badly on 2 of the 3. It's probably just an accident that he clipped the ear if you see his shot spread. There's a great video that shows where the bullets went.
@@GizmoMaltese He was a poor shot in high school. But...he was 20 years old on that infamous day, so who knows how he was after years of self practice and his high school years are irrelevant to recent history. In fact, there were 2 separate 3 round volleys. The first volley of 3 were on target and if Trump hadn't turned his head it would have been 3 hits. The other 2 bullets of the first volley missed Trump by inches. There is a NYT photo showing the 2nd or 3rd shot whizzing by Trump's cheek, missing by inches. That was not the 1st shot that struck his ear. And that absolutely can be a 5.56mm wound to his ear if it grazed it and didn't hit it directly especially with that fluke head turn. It was a miracle really that it missed.
I was just about to do a video on this type of stuff. I built a super cheap, base line ar15 and took it to 100, 200, and 500 yards. I was really surprised at the accuracy from it. It 200 yards was nothing with iron sights. I put on a cheap 3-9x50 for 500 yards, and it was not hard at all. The gun was Anderson barrel, Anderson bolt, a2 front sight post, Ncstar Vism flip up rear sight. Scope was leapers mil-dot.
My trigger upgrade made the biggest difference in my build. Going from a well built rifle with a mil spec trigger to TriggerTech 2 stage 1.5lb Diamond trigger was night and day. Trigger, BCG and Barrel can not be skimped on! Spend the money! Trigger and Barrel for accuracy and BCG for reliability (and lap your upper receiver)
I always shot expert with the M16 until I reached 25. Then I bolo. Borrowed a buddy glasses and shot expert. I appreciate how well you shot wearing glasses and using iron sights.
Why did you call it an M4? An M4 is an "Assault Rifle" what you have built is a "Sporting Rifle", call me whatever you want for being so particular but in this day and age of firearm ignorant screwballs we need to use the proper terms. I do understand that they are similar but they are not the same!
Are you calling IV8888 an ignorant screwball? He was in the army and is has an FFL. I think he knows the difference. When he says "m4" he's talking about the style of the rifle. And yes, apart from the barrel length and the selector switch, that rifle is identical to an M4. If you disagree with that, you might be the ignorant screwball.
At the beginning (2:34) were he is explaining the rear sight small and large aperture he stated that the large aperture is designed to allow more light through it which is true but intended for use in a low light environment. The large aperture use in day light is to provide a larger field of view.
love this series of videos. keep up the good work. been watching since the days when it was primarily just you and Barry! again, keep up the good work, and keep these videos coming! they are extremely informative
I have a 16" 1 in 7 crome lined d star upper on an m&p lower with a wal mart nikon p223 1x9 and with cheap ammo 400yd milk jugs are boring..3 for 3 cold bore... set a 28" flat screen up at somewhere near 1000 and with a try or 2 I hit the sob...blew my mind. Most fun I've ever had. Shootin off the top of my truck..scope is mounted with Talley steel mounts..makes the whole thing possible
Slapped together a psa mid length a2 upper on a bcm lower this week. I’m so exited to go to the range and shoot this simple rifle. Loading mags while eating supper. Missed my wife’s entire conversation.
I'd shot a friends' AR's a few times and they were fun...no recoil, accurate. And then I bought one...a Ruger AR-556--and it was love!! The simplicity! My 10-15 years of wanting to get an M1A went away! Two months later I got a Windham SRC 308 and it'll throw Wolf 147gr FMJ through a 1" hole all day. Other factory stuff I've tried (Prvi, Sellier-Bellot, Remington) is out to 3" so its going to take some tuning/handloading but this rifle has got it! I now know why all you AR-fans love the rifle!!
Semper Fi brother. Glad to see another iron sight expert qualifier. 5 years expert in a row here. They make you use ACOGs now from what my buddy who stayed in told me.
backup sights... lol. Army vet here.. all we had was iron sights... 300y to qualify... no problemo... although now, with older eyes.. its much harder to see out that far.
I own the windham weaponry retro government 20” with carry handle and shot from 200 out to 500 with 62 grain green tips hitting a 12x22” steel plate at 500 not great but got 7 on target around 10” group . One thing that helped me was painting that target High Viz Pink, trust me I had two targets out that far one white one pink and I couldn’t hardly see the white at all but that pink just stood out so very sweet. Good shooting boys.
today I shot the ar 15 for the first time ( I live in europe , so yeah it's a big thing for me ) and wow ... I shot indoors 100 meters with a small scope and it was dead on target .
I can finally relate ( at least a little bit ) to the things you say , it was love at first shot..
I also shot a ruger mini m14 today , but the smile on my face came from the AR
the things we take for granted
+Bjorn Ironsides , to bad I can't own one myself for 3 more years ( I live in one of the most gun resticted countries) but i keep hangin in there
Mark H i got 3 of them and many other guns.
WHERE IN EUROPE. I WANT TOO
Congratulations! These rifles are a blast and in my opinion better than any AK variant. Have fun and best wishes.
As a man that has been a pistol enthusiast since adolescence and is now starting to get interested in, and learn about, the AR, I found this style of video to be absolutely fantastic. I'm really excited to see where this series goes and am positive that it will be a great learning experience for me. Thanks for taking the time to do these videos with not only shooting to show example, but also talking about what's going on as it's happening. Having the points of view and explanation from two different men is a great way to make sure as much ground is covered as possible. Great job guys.
I’m glad that Eric has Chad shoot in the videos. It’s good to see that Eric realizes Chad is a better Marksman and isn’t afraid of letting the viewers see the difference between skill levels. I’m far closer to a novice than most, and with more practice it’s good to see that an improvement in accuracy is attainable.
I love seeing all of your suppressed short barreled military style rifles but it was cool to see one that was more applicable to me
Thank you for making this video! I love my Colt M4gerys, and shooting basic rifles makes you appreciate the KAC and Noveske hot rods. Far too many AR15 owners get caught up in what they can bolt to the rifle, and put less time into rifle fundamentals.
This was perfect!! I just finished my first AR build, and I've been asking myself all the same questions about the "practical accuracy" of backup sights versus other optics. You guys are spot on! Loved the video, and love the channel.
This is my rifle, there are many others like it, but this one is mine.
That means nothing, you mean nothing
+Ian Mangham ve believe in nothing lebowski
+Old Gregg go drink your bailey's from a shoe, and shine that mangina somewhere else.
+Old Gregg also i see what you did there.
Old Gregg Is there even objective meaning to life?
Well done, gentlemen. Shooting iron sights is a skill. Learned on irons many years ago (the 70s), switched to optics in the 90s, then recently tried irons again. Horrified by how much I had forgotten and had to re-learn. Eric and Chad are extremely humble in this video.
You guys are a value to TH-cam and the gun community. Keep doing what you do. Looking forward to how the upgrades affect the accuracy of this rifle, like the optic Chad mentioned or a free float foregrip/quadrail
Bet YT no longer feels that way, but there's nuthin they can fvkin do about it
Been watching the Chanel for years and it’s nice to go back to the older videos 🙏 love your Chanel and thank you for your service.
It would be cool if you guys repeated this exact video after every meaningful upgrade. That way the audience can see what sort of appreciable difference the free floating makes, the optics, etc. Just an idea.
That's the plan. It's going to take a while, but I think it will be well worth it
Can't wait to see that evolution.
same its gonna be a good video
I definitely will follow this evolution
I own 3 AR"s that I keep dinking around with. This progressive build approach is really appreciated. Can't wait for your future shows.
I'm really enjoying this series. I've been wanting to build an AR for a long time, and the build video for this rifle is finally putting my butt in gear. I'm anxious to see what upgrades you do and how they perform. Keep up the good work!
This is going to be an awesome video series
Exactly! Can't wait for the next video.
copy that!
Real world
Great topic Eric! Don't know how I missed this 4 yr old video of yours, but it is spot on. With all the guys and gals out their building their own, it good to have an idea of what to expect, accuracy wise., from their investment! Great job! Sincere thanks to you and the crew.
is this the cali version that shoots 500 rounds a sec and uses hi cap clips and is invisible...i have a ghost gun..its name is spooky
clips?............ Really?
No this one shoots chainsaws and has a detachable ammo-belt box filled with grenades
@@Dipstick252 liberal terms. He was being sarcastic
Randy M yeah, 30 caliber clips
Mine is the same. But it's as heavy as any 10 boxes I would move but it' shoots Lazer guided death bullets.... none of those tickle bullets for me!
I love the sound of that sear resetting.. some sounds are just ingrained in my head without them being anything special.. i just love my ARs like hells angels love their bikes
This video series is quite the undertaking. I'm very excited to watch this progress!
I'm new to owning firearms and purchased a standard AR-15 (basic Saint) with similar iron sights. I've only fired it three times, but I love it. It has the nostalgia of my military experience, but was never in a career that required more than the once a year qualification. My goal since purchasing in Nov 2021, is to get a 1 inch MOA (wishful thinking) at 100 yards BEFORE I upgrade to a scope. With that said, I loved this video and the philosophy of working those iron sights to force my skill. I keep coming back to learn more! Thank YOU Eric and Chad for the candid, honest reviews!
A scope is not an upgrade, match conditioning the rifle is what you need to do, as well as shoot match grade ammunition. Then results will be all about Marksmanship Knowledge and Skill. For that to come to fruition you will want to get some training. There’s none better than that presented in the USAMU’s Small Arms Firing School.
I love how you can see the vapor trail on half the shots
This is basically my first ar. I took it out for the first time yesterday
I am an amateur shooter. I was amazed at how accurate I was with iron sights. It really is love at first shot. I can't wait to build another one.
The AR platform is damn good. They're more accurate and more reliable than ever, too. Don't let anyone fool you, the .223 or 5.56 is a nasty round. I've used it on four-legged and two-legged targets and it has worked very well.
My AR is a S&W MP15 and is just like this one. I am looking forward to seeing what it can do with some glad on it. I just hope you guys will put something on it that the average Joe can afford... not a $1200.00 ACOG...
glass... not glad... dang auto correct!
We are hoping to show a wide variety of options including some of the expensive offerings.
+Iraqveteran8888 can you please do a range video of the VZ52 Czech rifle...long time viewer been waiting for a review and havent spotted it in the background of any gun gripes videos near the sks's...
Man, that MP15 is so underrated. I have one and I fucking love it. It's such a sweet gun.
a friend of mine is on the swat team and he uses an average old colt for practice. the only thing hes had to change is the firing pin after tens of thousands of rounds. he got it for under 800.
I have hit targets consistently at 300 meters and a handful of times at 500 meters when I was in the military with a plain Jane m4 with iron sights.
"toe shot on a gopher" should be a common expression
Glad you did this. Proves that you don't need a tricked out railed, optic ar to shoot and be accurate out at distance. As long as you can make hits on man sized targets out at distance
I think you should change mags after 10 rounds, it really spooks us California types when you go over 10.
I don't think Democrats ever take off their shoes... or they would be ok with 20 round mags... lol
California born here. I showed my mom my AR and she just about passed out. Lol
But... Hollywood movies always show the guns firing endlessly.. Is that just a trick?!....
Thanks for the vid. Just bought a Ruger AR-556 (which is about as basic as you can get) and zeroed it at 50 yards. Pretty confident that it will hit at 100 yards out to 250-300. Can't wait to test it out
I Love guns! Thumbs up if you agree!
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Cryocynical
Interesting
ever heard of lynching?
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gotta love the sound of ar 15. it sounds like freedom to me :)
***** who is Pence?
***** what about
@@LUX1111111111111 ..The Good Parts?
Or a 30.06..sounds like the sound of thunder!
@@op8995 probably the weird parts 😆
I've watched you all for a long time now and I will continue till you stop.... your videos and you guys are awesome !!!!
Loving how loud that reset is, or is that because of your mic?
It's a mix of both. Good resets on ARs are loud, but his mic makes it louder than it seems.
My AR build ended up being a mid length 16 inch barrel HBAR. I actually ended up liking this set up better. I did have a couple of hick ups due to the mid length. First off, I bought the hand guard and gas tube as carbine length, and ended up having to buy mid length, then my buffer spring was a carbine spring too, That didn't show up until I finished the gun and fired it for functionality. It started short stroking. The empty case would eject but the next round didn't load. I did some research and ordered a chrome silicon buffer spring and that fixed the short stroke. It's a lighter spring, and evidently going from a carbine length to mid length, there just wasn't quite enough gas pressure to fully cycle with the carbine spring. But that worked out ok too, because the carbine spring has a life expectancy of around 12,000 rounds, but the chrome silicon spring has a life expectancy of around 750,000 rounds. Long past my rifles life expectancy or mine. I should never have a problem with it.
Over all, I really enjoyed the build. I learned a lot and my supervisor wants me to build one for her too. She has to order her parts, then we'll sit down and start assembling. Looking forward to it.
thank you for all of the information that you put out in these videos.I have only been shooting for a few months and your videos has taught me so much.
Hey Guys, I just wanted to pop in and say thank you for your contribution to the 2nd amendment community, the youtube presence of our community, and the direction you have taken your channel. I started watching about 7 years ago in the Barry and Eric moss pawn and gun counter days, primarily the gun gripes vids. Love and keep up the good work.
ISIS called, and asked what are "sights"
Aloha Snackbar!
Spray and pray brother, Allah will guide the boolits !
hahaha
aloha snack bar
More like Chicago called, and asked, "What are sights?"
After shooting an ar for the first time and using irons I really am impressed with your shooting. Hitting that gopher over and over.. I can only hope to get to that level.
Rifleman's Creed[1]
This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.
Without me, my rifle is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will...
My rifle and I know that what counts in war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit...
My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will keep my rifle clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will... Before God I Swear This Creed my rifle and I are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life. So be it,
Wow man, that's awesome. Heard part of it before. Very epic. If you served, many thanks for your sacrifice.
This should be every Americans creed.
@Kasper Jam - get it RiGHT!!( hahahahahaha!) " the one, the only- all other versions are just watered down copies...
Rifleman's Creed- Gen. William H. Rupertus , USMC (1941):
".... this is my rifle.
there are many like it but this one is mine.
my rifle is my best friend. it is my life.
I must Master it as I must Master my life.
without me my rifle is useless, without my rifle I am useless.
I must fire my rifle true
I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me.
I must shoot him before he shoots me .
I will ....
my rifle and I know that what counts in war is not the rounds we fire the noise of our burst nor the smoke we make we know that it is the hits that count
we will hit..
my rifle is human even as I because it is my life thus I will learn it as a brother I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights, its Barrel
I'll keep my rifle clean and ready even as I am clean and ready
we will become part of each other we will ...before God I swear this Creed
my rifle and I are the Defenders of my country we are the masters of our enemy we are the saviors of my life
so be it until Victory is America's and there is NO enemy but peace !..."
ADudeAndSomeGuns
Brothers of Men No I plan on joining the marines after I get out of college currently in high school
Thanks. I'm doing my first basic AR 15 build myself(PSA Freedom Rifle)28th a few extra goodies such as a red dot and 3x magnifier
Keep those videos coming! :)
hey eric can you post more videos of you and chad hunting i would love to see you guys do that more thank you
BRO you need to make more videos of REELMEN8888 plz it would be a epic channel GUYS SUBSCRIBE to that channel!!!!
Believe me brother I want nothing more than to go do some more fishing videos! I'm working on it!
thumbs up for fishing videos here ! :p
any more meltdown vids coming????
You guys are awesome. No gimmicks, no douchey attitude, no BS. Nice work fellas.
Is that clicking after each shot the trigger resetting? It's loud as hell.
yup, trigger reset.
no idea why its that loud...but most ARs seem to be loud like that.
however....the round you just fired is going to be louder, so its really not a problem.
the mic is sitting really close to the trigger so it's picking it up quite well
the louder the better! seriously, that's the whole point.
A standard Mil-Spec trigger is loud!.. haha, got geissele's on all of mine now!
i can hear it.. even up here in alaska.. :D
Glad you guys are on our side! Love your videos!
That trigger reset sound reminds me of a ptr-91
that being said in the video bout upgrades like the free float and buffer... its still good to see that they re using the basics and still very accurate because a lot of us cant afford decent optics and these upgrades
The DOD standard for the M16A1 was 1 mil. That is 3 1/4 MOA. Mine shot better than that. With issue sights mine would hold a dime at 25 meters. That translates to about 2.4 MOA with iron. So the platform is inherently accurate.
I like the honest and straightforward way you guys teach us so much. I have one suggestion: Always talk about twist rate as it is fundamental to accuracy depending on bullet weight/length. For example, shooting a 1:9 TR with a 77g bullet is not going to work well past 75 yards no matter what length barrel you have. Very helpful if you would provide TR as standard info on all the rifles you test when talking about the ammo. Thanks again for all the education and great honest videos.
need ballistic gel 100yrds would love to see the after math.
It would be interesting to see ballistics gel every 100 yards tbh
Man how I miss my time working with Ray at GA. R&Gs and Barry at Moss Pawn. In the time I worked at both occasionally we would have a hunter new to military-style rifles buy a base model AR 15, mini14 or Ak47 in responce to the threat of new gun bans. Later they would come back when it wasn't capable of the accuracy of their scoped deer rifle they would bad mouth the guns. You guys are doing an Awesome job of educating and entertaining, I recommend your channel to everyone.
Soft spot in my heart for A2s.
My PSA freedom 15 that I bought for $299 out of the box with a MBUS rear sight I was putting rounds on at 227 yards in the prone position. It was incredible. Using MFS ammo to.
Was there ever a video about shooting with carry handle accuracy?
This is a very interesting series you have started. Still the best channel on youtube.
The first time I ever shot my AR, (Ruger AR556), the first thing that I did was shoot at a 12 inch gong at about 150 yrds, and it was zeroed right out of the box!
Kyle Rebo those are great shooters love mine.
I'm very glad I bought it!
I'm so happy I bought mine!
Kyle Rebo. i just grabbed one last weekend too. 500$ bnib, couldnt pass it up. i was tearing up bowling pins from 100 yds right out of the box. i was smiling from ear to ear
My first AR was CMMG LEM. She has sent well over 3000 rds down range and with the exception of some wear on the cam pin she still looks and preforms very well
Can you guys do a video with a JP enterprises silent capture buffer assembly slapped into this gun? I want to see what kind of effect that has.
not much...
Thomas Maierhoffer i have one of them JP buffer assault devices. All it does is make is make it a more comfortable shooting assault device by not making an annoying/cheap sounding spring rattle noise each time the bolt closes
I've been a subscriber for years and I LOVE your no-nonsense videos! One simple observation from the "viewer standpoint".....your PIP target camera really needs to be the LARGER part of the screen when watching rather than the shooting table. It's almost impossible to see the target impacts when watching....even in full screen.
Practical Accuracy : Entirety of shots fired from a bench rest.
so there is no operator error that influences the test...
That's why the military using burst round shots
@@TheMrkiddi Practical accuracy means operator error is included. This is what the military means by "effective" range and accuracy, it is determined by the average performance of individuals who participate in the testing.
@levi blankenship No. It isn't practical to carry a bench with you whenever you go shooting.
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj showing what the rifle is capable of is practical. Operator error will vary depending on situations. Propping the rifle on a wall, truck, dirt hill, trench, ect will provide identical results given you are a competent shooter. Did you also want to take hos heart rate? Your Pratical accuracy would include that right?
I live in Europe, I have the Windham Weaponry M16a1, with Iron sights. I removed the carrier handle sight and replaced that with a Magpul flip down iron sight. With that configuration, I'm getting dinner plate size groupings at 300m. I have the sight zero'd at 25m. Fantastic weapon for a reliable SHTF scenario. My 8 and 14 year old are very comfortable shooting it, this is a great selling point.
not that long ago those "back up sights" were called the "rifles sights" and we Marines were able to use them "rifle sights" to hit out to 500 yards accurately :) we did this off hand, standing kneeling, prone, ect. no benches no sand bags to rest the rifle on. my my things have changed. might have to get me one of those observatory scopes thatll fit a rail so i can hit somethin with those new rifles lmao
My ACOG was the best upgrade I’ve made so far… so optics - yeah
Yep. Hardly ever even touch my Leupold VX-R or EO Tech anymore.
Does anyone have a link to the CMMG Mark 4 build video? I can't find it.
No clue. I can't locate it either.
Nothing better than watching ex military / active military firing an M4 Style rifle. hell yeah Eric. When you picked up the pace on the second string of fire, that shit gave me goosebumps. Keep up the good work man.
I just can't figure out why shooting an AR with the stock collapsed is so popular. It is so uncomfortable.
Well shorter people definetely will collaps the stock.
I cant judge for tall people, as I am short myself, but I guess to have the eye closer to the sight.
Just depends on the persons preferred length of pull which is generally determined by height and arm length which determines how comfortable a certain lop is.
I honestly like to try different stances because each has benefits and draw backs. If I am shooting at medium to long ranges, I have the stock fully extended. Still, some people like to have their eye as close to the ghost ring or optic as possible. Since the 5.56 doesn't kick much, people have no issues having their nose up to the charging handle to get a bigger sight picture. I don't, but if I we're clearing a building, I would have the stock more collapsed to help make my silhouette smaller, make it easier to move in small areas and doors, and the tighter feel on the weapon helps maintain control while firing consistently in close quarters. Though, I almost never collapse the stock entirely. I usually have it at 3rd position on a six point stock. Also, when I was enlisted, body armor made firing with a fully extended stock uncomfortable, so when I was issued an M4 to replace my M16, it was nice to shorten the stock to make up for the extra space of my armor.
People change the stock to however they feel comfortable with it, either long or short. There's nothing else to it.
When I am the only one with the polymer stock in the comments. But I like my trap door! Have a whole tool kit with the gun in their.
In the Marine Corps, to hit center on a 300 yard target you have to hit a 12 inch circle, Back in my day, we didn't have anything but open sights. At 200 yards, we used the same target but you had to shoot 5 rounds in the offhand, 5 kneeling, and 5 sitting and 10 rounds rapid fire from the kneeling. At 500 yards we were prone for 10 shots. To hit center you had to hit the 20 inch wide by 40 inch tall man silhouette. Out of a possible 250 points the best I ever did was 248. I went to the 500 with the possibility of getting a perfect score, but the wind had different ideas. We also had rapid fire at the 300 using the "D" target that was 26 inches wide by 19 inches tall half man silhouette. Fun days guys. You guys should do a video to recreate the old rifle range days and see if you can achieve the expert rating. If interested, I will give you the particulars and what we did on each firing line. Enjoy y'alls videos!
This is my rifle this is my gun, this is for fighting this is for fun!
Marines die, that's what we're for, but the Marine Corps will live forever and that means you live forever!
We will conquer communism, with the aide of God and a few Marines!
"I love air castles" wut
Nice to see you guys A: building an AR, and B: showing these kids on here that you can shoot pretty well even with open sights.
If you have a 1:7 twist then you're way over stabilizing the 55s. That's why they're not shooting that well. Try some 77gr rounds and I bet they will shoot better. Nice videos though!
There is no such thing as over stabilizing a round.. Internet myth. Ideal Twist rate is determined by length of bullet not weight but heavier bullets tend to be longer. Some rifles like different weights in bullets or types of bullets in same weight. The only problem with fast twist and light bullets is sometimes a light jacketed high velocity bullet will come apart with to fast a twist. The 22-250 with a fast twist light bullets is the one most common with this problem. FMJ bullets will not have this problem.
This was very good to see what they mean by MOA and stringing once the barrel heats up. I heard about it on other youtube channels, but didn't get to see it to this degree.
would an ak do this?
Short answer- YES
But your question is too open ended...... If you get a last ditch rifle and put garbage ammo through it, it can have up to 4-5MOA accuracy; But a well manufactured AK with Wolf Military ammo (any kind really) can easily match this level of accuracy. The whole difference is that 7.62×39 goes transonic several hundred yards before 5.56×45 will; although with 5.56 even shooting hot loaded, heavy grain bullets or something similar still doesn't have the terminal effect most people want at such ranges. (Pushing either cartridge beyond 500m involves fighting the wind a good deal as well)
So, the long answer is- both platforms have had decades of R&D behind them as well as the ammunition they use, meaning within reasonable engagement distances (0-300yrds) with either platform; AK or AR, rifle or SBR, FMJ or HPBT, they will always out-perform the end user.(99.999% of the time). There are the few...
Jake Dunning best damn unbiased answer I've ever heard to that question good sir. I salute you.
Yes...enter the AK-74 in 5.45x39...the Russian answer to 5.56x45. AK-74 is better compared to AR, not the 30 caliber AKM.
man eric is one hell of a shot 200 yards and 250 just wow
what is stringing?
Stringing is basically where anamaloies such as barrel harmonics and heat start to cause groups to open up in a way where the throw shows in a vertical or horizontal line. The groups are still "consistent" but it's the odd factor that causes the groups to open up. The idea is that the same rifle would group reasonably well save for factors like handguard contact, barrel temperature, etc
Also, sometimes stringing can be caused by variances in factory ammo. Usually present in the real cheap ammo.
+Iraqveteran8888 What about the barrel in relation to accuracy when heating up? Heavy vs pencil. Will that be a consideration and upgrade?
When the barrel gets heated up then accuracy can loosen a bit. (A lot of guys use this as an excuse as to why they aren't shooting good.)
A heavier contour barrel will maintain better rigidity and therefore be able to better sustain accuracy when heated. Naturally a lighter barrel due to its thinness will heat up easier and therefore be more susceptible to loosening accuracy.
Floating barrels have less stresses on them therefore they can ideally deliver a little better accuracy plus they typically have better heat ventilation which can help the barrel cool down a little faster.
Unless you shoot regularly, then getting a floating barrel is useless. Just go with a standard milspec M4 carbine configuration.
For example I have a Colt M4 6920, Colt M4 6940 (meaning it has a floating barrel), and Colt M16A4, all with trijicon 4x32 ACOGs. I shoot at a 19" wide gong out to over 600 yards and I can't really tell the difference in accuracy between the three of them. All three rifles can very easily hit the gong at that distance if I get my wind direction right.
So point being, don't get caught up in thinking you need to make all these stylish upgrades to your rifle.
I was shooting consistent 3-4" groups at 300 yards the other day. But, I was using a Vortex 1-6 Strike Eagle, with a free floated Mlok handguard. 1:7 twist chrome moly bbl. Cheap Federal bulk ammo(55g). Very happy with those results, tho. Mid-length gas system ejects at 3:00. And, it runs like a dream. DelTon makes a GREAT AR. Very good shooting, with irons guys. Pretty impressive.
who the hell dislikes?!
Libs
Mark K the jews
Great demonstration of how one zero can be "minute of man" accurate out to 300 yards. The 50 yard zero, on my rifle, puts me 2" high at 100, 3" high at 150(apex), 2" high at 200, zero again at 285, and about 5" low at 300. My optics are mounted a little higher than normal. I'm a tall guy. This is the perfect zero, in my opinion. But, it really doesn't matter what zero that you choose, you just need to learn your rifle, at different distances. Get out and SHOOT! Ballistics calculators can help you get in the ballpark, but you MUST know your EXACT muzzle velocity, and your EXACT height of your optics, above your bore. Keep in mind that the advertised muzzle velocity on the box, is never correct. My average MV is around 2,950 fps, out of a 16" barrel. Great shooting guys! Especially with irons...
What is the obsession with MilSpec?
All MilSpec means is the cheepest, workable product
Doc Hawk it's more than that please don't confuse people with your lack of knowledge.
It's a measure of standard not an obsession and definitely not the "cheapest"
Haha its the allowable tolerances as per military specifications...
Stick with your white collar job and leave mil-specs to those of us who have done military work... you've not a clue what you're saying. I've worked on prints that boggled the minds of some really bright people, and there ain't nothing cheapin that...
Trigger reset sounds so crisp, I love it!
Who all came here because of the assassination attempt made on Trump hit the 👍🏾 button ⬇️
I was wondering if it was a makeable shot. I guess it is. But this guy is an expert and has this mount. I don't know if it's an easy shot.
@GizmoMaltese He mentioned that the 250-yard shot was doable. The gunman was 130 feet away from the stage, which was very close.
2:28 I believe the small and large apertures on iron sights are used when shooting in low light/daylight conditions as well. Large aperture for night time, small for day time.
How the hell did Crookes miss Trump?
Wind, Head Trump's Turning and obviously you're are pissing your pants in that moment. Maybe shaking. Obviously by his appearance he wasn't a "strong man."
@@guitarchino yes, that seems right
He didn't make his H.S. rifle team because it was said that he was a "comically" bad shot. So he was a terrible shot. He probably improved but you see he had 3 shots at 150 yards and missed badly on 2 of the 3. It's probably just an accident that he clipped the ear if you see his shot spread. There's a great video that shows where the bullets went.
Because he didn't use an AR-15. If he did, trump wouldn't have his ear.
@@GizmoMaltese He was a poor shot in high school. But...he was 20 years old on that infamous day, so who knows how he was after years of self practice and his high school years are irrelevant to recent history. In fact, there were 2 separate 3 round volleys. The first volley of 3 were on target and if Trump hadn't turned his head it would have been 3 hits. The other 2 bullets of the first volley missed Trump by inches. There is a NYT photo showing the 2nd or 3rd shot whizzing by Trump's cheek, missing by inches. That was not the 1st shot that struck his ear. And that absolutely can be a 5.56mm wound to his ear if it grazed it and didn't hit it directly especially with that fluke head turn. It was a miracle really that it missed.
I was just about to do a video on this type of stuff. I built a super cheap, base line ar15 and took it to 100, 200, and 500 yards. I was really surprised at the accuracy from it. It 200 yards was nothing with iron sights. I put on a cheap 3-9x50 for 500 yards, and it was not hard at all. The gun was Anderson barrel, Anderson bolt, a2 front sight post, Ncstar Vism flip up rear sight. Scope was leapers mil-dot.
360p club
im getting 1080p. what do you mean?
+David Manea If you are early the video hasnt finished processing yet and therefore the Only option is 360p
+TNHS Or if your internet sucks you still only get 360p.
can anyone tell me what this comment says.?my AOL download stopped after the first two words and I ran out of free hours.
theshapeexists Im just getting a page full of html text here...
My trigger upgrade made the biggest difference in my build. Going from a well built rifle with a mil spec trigger to TriggerTech 2 stage 1.5lb Diamond trigger was night and day.
Trigger, BCG and Barrel can not be skimped on! Spend the money!
Trigger and Barrel for accuracy and BCG for reliability (and lap your upper receiver)
what happened to the old guy with the beard did he die
ya he died like 2 years ago
Yes, his name was Barry....he is dearly missed. The older "Lost Arts" videos with him are awesome....
I always shot expert with the M16 until I reached 25. Then I bolo. Borrowed a buddy glasses and shot expert. I appreciate how well you shot wearing glasses and using iron sights.
Why did you call it an M4? An M4 is an "Assault Rifle" what you have built is a "Sporting Rifle", call me whatever you want for being so particular but in this day and age of firearm ignorant screwballs we need to use the proper terms. I do understand that they are similar but they are not the same!
it has an m4 style of build.
Are you calling IV8888 an ignorant screwball? He was in the army and is has an FFL. I think he knows the difference.
When he says "m4" he's talking about the style of the rifle. And yes, apart from the barrel length and the selector switch, that rifle is identical to an M4. If you disagree with that, you might be the ignorant screwball.
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+The Odessa Cubbage Foundation how long did it take to type that shit out, lol
At the beginning (2:34) were he is explaining the rear sight small and large aperture he stated that the large aperture is designed to allow more light through it which is true but intended for use in a low light environment. The large aperture use in day light is to provide a larger field of view.
love this series of videos. keep up the good work. been watching since the days when it was primarily just you and Barry! again, keep up the good work, and keep these videos coming! they are extremely informative
you guys just invented a new saying. "This gun'l shoot the toes off a gopher at 250". im usin it!
I have a 16" 1 in 7 crome lined d star upper on an m&p lower with a wal mart nikon p223 1x9 and with cheap ammo 400yd milk jugs are boring..3 for 3 cold bore... set a 28" flat screen up at somewhere near 1000 and with a try or 2 I hit the sob...blew my mind. Most fun I've ever had. Shootin off the top of my truck..scope is mounted with Talley steel mounts..makes the whole thing possible
Thanks for the quick upload. I was so excited for this video since the rifle was built. Can't wait for the upgrade videos.
Slapped together a psa mid length a2 upper on a bcm lower this week. I’m so exited to go to the range and shoot this simple rifle. Loading mags while eating supper. Missed my wife’s entire conversation.
I'd shot a friends' AR's a few times and they were fun...no recoil, accurate. And then I bought one...a Ruger AR-556--and it was love!! The simplicity! My 10-15 years of wanting to get an M1A went away! Two months later I got a Windham SRC 308 and it'll throw Wolf 147gr FMJ through a 1" hole all day. Other factory stuff I've tried (Prvi, Sellier-Bellot, Remington) is out to 3" so its going to take some tuning/handloading but this rifle has got it! I now know why all you AR-fans love the rifle!!
I still love the A2 iron sights. That thing is a dang lazer great USMC Boot camp confidence boost getting that expert
Semper Fi brother. Glad to see another iron sight expert qualifier. 5 years expert in a row here. They make you use ACOGs now from what my buddy who stayed in told me.
@@Animo2006 yeah we qual with acogs now.
first firearm i shot was an M16. first time hearing gunshots were from an M16. all thanks to the Army. just love this platform.
You guys are some solid shooters man, makes me wanna go get some much needed practice in! Keep the great vids coming
Oh man awesome vid guys! Really looking forward to seeing what this exact rifle before mods with an optic on it will do. Great series guys!
backup sights... lol. Army vet here.. all we had was iron sights... 300y to qualify... no problemo... although now, with older eyes.. its much harder to see out that far.
Guy's THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, thank you for all the best firearms videos. I love to learn from the two of you.
I own the windham weaponry retro government 20” with carry handle and shot from 200 out to 500 with 62 grain green tips hitting a 12x22” steel plate at 500 not great but got 7 on target around 10” group . One thing that helped me was painting that target High Viz Pink, trust me I had two targets out that far one white one pink and I couldn’t hardly see the white at all but that pink just stood out so very sweet. Good shooting boys.
looks like this is shaping up to be a pretty interesting series of videos,im looking forward the next one
Just sighted in some Magpul Mbus sights on my 300 blackout, surprisingly accurate, I was happy. Gonna see if that holds up over time.