@elleazarmakadesh7725 BS. These guys have the technique. That's what makes them lift. Then roids. Then strength. There is a weightlifter here on YT. Small guy. Not muscular. He did 500lb C&J. How? TECHNIQUE and ROIDS.
@@richallen6764 Stop. Everybody on Roids. Its mandatory now, you can't lift that weight without Roids. Rahmat sill great because in a big field of Roids users, he is the strongest. Without Roids and Rahmat still be the strongest. Stop talk about it and enjoy the magic of weightlifting
5:09 "It seems the weightlifting world has become obsessed with Rahmat vs Shi Zhiyong, and it's understandable why. The assumption has been for a while that Rahmat would go to the Olympics and either win, or battle Shi Zhiyong [...] but all of a sudden it dawned on us all that it could be Rizki who goes to the Olympics" Great foresight!
It's so good to hear Seb providing the background information on both lifters. I find Rahmat's story to be interesting. I don't know how often a coach who is also a parent who also was a lifter occurs in weightlifting? But it's good to see a shared interest. The back room lifting footage is also appreciated. Now I'm looking forward to seeing what happens in Thailand.
Both Rahmat's and Rizki's dads were former national weightlifting athletes, and they both coach their sons (Rizki's dad seems to be absent in this comp tho), what contributes to Rahmat's uniqueness is that his mother was also a national weightlifting athlete..
Seb's outfit is the 'straight man' of weightlifting commentary, for better or for worse. They do a great job with the streams, commentaries, etc; but I do find the whole 'must be PC about everything, all the time' element quite annoying. I can understand why they do it, but it's frustrating all the same. Sika Strength commentaries > WH@@richallen6764
Ri Chong Song get 209kg only weight 78,0kg but miss 210kg 4 Times now weighs 79 at Asian Games and this Asian Championships 2024 .He was former 73kg on 2018 Worlds ,Would be interesting if they battle not in 81
You have to consider how pedestrian Shi's best total was though. An effortless snatch with kilos to spare, and a clean and jerk that scarcely looked more than RPE8. Shi ain't done yet, provided he comes into comp on top shape.
You have to consider how badly Shi’s back was bothering him at Dohar where he accepted second place, passing his last 2 cl&jk attempts. He was hurtin for certain. Needs huge improvement for Paris.
Seb Rahmat was not forced to take the 204 jerk preventing him from choosing 206 to break Shi’s total record. After he did 202 he’d won Rizki had no more attempts left. He could have chosen 206 for a jerk and total record if he wanted but decided on a smaller increase. Anybody know exact nature of Rizki’s injury?
Even if Shi is not fully back to his former shape, he is almost a secured silver. Li Fabin is also pretty ahead and the favorite for Gold but Li Dayin and Tian are not a safe choice when you have guys Like Karlos, Jeisson Lopes, even Nino. I think It will be Li Fabin, Shi Shiyong and Liu HuanHua.
@@pateHNBTA Depends on what they want, more golds or more medals. I think Li Dayin is way more likely to win gold than Shi, but also more likely not to medal at all. If Li Dayin is in shape, Karlos really is the only threat. Li's total looked way more comfortable than Yeison's and Nino would be very happy to reach his old PB at the moment. However, if Li underperforms, he can easily be 5th or something, since you still also have Keydomar. Shi only has to worry about Rahmat and Weeraphon realistically.
The fact that they both share the same meaning in their name is make this rivalry even exciting 😅. Rizki and Rahmat has simmilar meaning to "gift" by god, and indeed the fact is they do have that.
MAN I AM SWEATING HOLLERING TO THE PHONE DO IT DO NOW I AM SOO PROUD FOR BOTH TRUE CHAMPIONS HARD WORK PAYS OFF 2024 THE YEAR OF GREATNESS FOR US ALL AMEN💯🙏💪👍🌏🌎🌍POWER PRAYERS TO ALL COMPETITIONS THANKS TO ALL THE STAFF JUDGING CLEANING CREWS BLESS EVER SUPER JOB BE PROUD YOU TO ARE CHAMPIONS🙏💯👍👊💪🌏🌎🌍
@@richallen6764 Stop. Its hard work. Roids made the hard work converted into better amount of weight lifted. Using Roids not mean that they are not hard work. If you not work hard, even a house of Roids cant help ya.
@@richallen6764 Nope. Its strength, technique, then roids. Roids isn't extreme power, you can't inject yourself with hundred of kgs of Roids and hope that you can destroy every WR. They need a good strength and they are 1% of human in the world, those genetics are superior. If they all cheaters, why only a few of them can dominate the sport, why not each of them get a WR?
@@richallen6764 this is like the 30th time you've said this, under a single video, do you have some kind of steroid fetish? We already know they're on the juice and we don't really care honestly, just enjoy the competition. Spamming the exact same comment under this video won't make the sport clean.
Rizki pindah ke kelas 89kg meski bisa ngalahin Zul Ilmi tetap Sulit untuk Qualify Top 10 Besar meski nambah 16kg Berat Badan ,Ya mungkin meningkat Angkatan nya misal Snatch 170 Clean&Jerk 205 pun Total 375 belum Aman
The initial pull is so slow. Is it how he is coached or genetically just a limit he works with? Anyone know? I know the first phase isn't where most of the force is generated so some lifters wait until the 2nd phase to really apply themselves at full. Personally I slowed down the first phase probably a year into my lifting but nothing like this.
He already did and he even spoke with athletes that have been tested positive. Now days the antidpoing testing is way more strict than ever before. The only arguably thing is how countries like North Korea get tested out of competetion.
What's your obsession with the drugs? Seen you lurking around a few of the comments saying stuff like this, far more interesting discussions to be had around weightlifting as a sport than just issues with doping
@AwesomeCo1 They are all doped up. Also, people are dopes if they think these cheaters are not doped up. Are you one of those dopes? BTW I can comment anywhere and anytime I choose.
@@richallen6764 people are well aware of this. If your statement holds true in that all of them are doped up, then what difference does it make. And yeah you can comment anywhere you like, but repeatedly rattling on about how everyone's on steroids makes you look a bit odd ngl
Rahmat looked like he was going to fly away when he was jumping.
Steriods.
They turned off the gravity in that building for a minute.
@@richallen6764you can take tons of roid and you never do like that
@elleazarmakadesh7725 BS. These guys have the technique. That's what makes them lift. Then roids. Then strength. There is a weightlifter here on YT. Small guy. Not muscular. He did 500lb C&J. How? TECHNIQUE and ROIDS.
@@richallen6764 Stop. Everybody on Roids. Its mandatory now, you can't lift that weight without Roids. Rahmat sill great because in a big field of Roids users, he is the strongest. Without Roids and Rahmat still be the strongest. Stop talk about it and enjoy the magic of weightlifting
Rahmat and Rizki are the reason why I purchased tickets for their weight category. Whoever gets the Olympic spot - it will be absolutely worth it.
You're very good at doing the voice overs for these videos! Your love for the sport is clear.
5:09 "It seems the weightlifting world has become obsessed with Rahmat vs Shi Zhiyong, and it's understandable why. The assumption has been for a while that Rahmat would go to the Olympics and either win, or battle Shi Zhiyong [...] but all of a sudden it dawned on us all that it could be Rizki who goes to the Olympics"
Great foresight!
It's so good to hear Seb providing the background information on both lifters. I find Rahmat's story to be interesting. I don't know how often a coach who is also a parent who also was a lifter occurs in weightlifting? But it's good to see a shared interest. The back room lifting footage is also appreciated. Now I'm looking forward to seeing what happens in Thailand.
Both Rahmat's and Rizki's dads were former national weightlifting athletes, and they both coach their sons (Rizki's dad seems to be absent in this comp tho), what contributes to Rahmat's uniqueness is that his mother was also a national weightlifting athlete..
Seb never acknowledges that weightlifters all use drugs.
Wouldn’t mind those genes.
@@richallen6764 look who doesnt get enough love from mommy 🥹
Seb's outfit is the 'straight man' of weightlifting commentary, for better or for worse. They do a great job with the streams, commentaries, etc; but I do find the whole 'must be PC about everything, all the time' element quite annoying. I can understand why they do it, but it's frustrating all the same. Sika Strength commentaries > WH@@richallen6764
These two trained together and will be shinning together for 🇮🇩❤️
Both of these boys should be in the olympics. We just wanna see the best lifters compete.
Shi is a She now
Just watched Asian 81s. PRK’s Ri Chong Song missed 2 cracks at 210 so Rahmat still owns records in 2 different weight classes.
Ri Chong Song get 209kg only weight 78,0kg but miss 210kg 4 Times now weighs 79 at Asian Games and this Asian Championships 2024 .He was former 73kg on 2018 Worlds ,Would be interesting if they battle not in 81
Roid city
@@richallen6764 Everybody on Roids, its mandatory. If u join the sport, u will Roids too
Where were you able to watch the full streams? I've been trying to find them, but can't see them anywhere. :\
didn't rahmat set his world record at 77kg anw
great hearing commentary again!
1 kilo less than Shi's best total internationally and it looked easy. With Shi looking sus, I think this seals it: Rahmat is winning the Olympics.
Roids
You have to consider how pedestrian Shi's best total was though. An effortless snatch with kilos to spare, and a clean and jerk that scarcely looked more than RPE8. Shi ain't done yet, provided he comes into comp on top shape.
You have to consider how badly Shi’s back was bothering him at Dohar where he accepted second place, passing his last 2 cl&jk attempts. He was hurtin for certain. Needs huge improvement for Paris.
@@johndoherty-hh2ck Roids cured him.
@@christopherroberts2500 Roids do the job.
INDONESIA!! 👊🔥🇲🇨
Semoga kedepannya pemerintah Indonesia bisa memberikan perhatian lbh kepada cabang olahraga yang berprestasi di kancah dunia
Great coverage
Seb Rahmat was not forced to take the 204 jerk preventing him from choosing 206 to break Shi’s total record. After he did 202 he’d won Rizki had no more attempts left. He could have chosen 206 for a jerk and total record if he wanted but decided on a smaller increase. Anybody know exact nature of Rizki’s injury?
Rizki had appendectomy
Roids
lol@@richallen6764
@@richallen6764 dude shut up we all know. Go be miserable in your own head.
take a break my guy@@richallen6764
Rizki’s final C&J was just ridiculous… unbelievable
It is ridiculous that all these guys are juiced up. Roids.
It's already beyond human capacity, just unrealistic 🦁
From Indonesian 🇮🇩🇮🇩🔥🔥
Semoga angkatan snatch rahmat tembus min 164 kg,,aamiin🤲
Just casually jumping out of the training hall. 😮
2:07 bro is flying
I don't think Shi ZhiYong would be sended by Team China at this Point for Paris 2024
Tian Tao, Liu Huanhua and Li Fabin
@@TsarNicholas2ndLi Dayin.
Tian Tao is still ranked behind countryman Li Dayin. He won’t be going unless he totals 397 or more at Thailand World Cup.
Even if Shi is not fully back to his former shape, he is almost a secured silver. Li Fabin is also pretty ahead and the favorite for Gold but Li Dayin and Tian are not a safe choice when you have guys Like Karlos, Jeisson Lopes, even Nino. I think It will be Li Fabin, Shi Shiyong and Liu HuanHua.
@@pateHNBTA Depends on what they want, more golds or more medals. I think Li Dayin is way more likely to win gold than Shi, but also more likely not to medal at all. If Li Dayin is in shape, Karlos really is the only threat. Li's total looked way more comfortable than Yeison's and Nino would be very happy to reach his old PB at the moment. However, if Li underperforms, he can easily be 5th or something, since you still also have Keydomar. Shi only has to worry about Rahmat and Weeraphon realistically.
The fact that they both share the same meaning in their name is make this rivalry even exciting 😅. Rizki and Rahmat has simmilar meaning to "gift" by god, and indeed the fact is they do have that.
MAN I AM SWEATING HOLLERING TO THE PHONE DO IT DO NOW I AM SOO PROUD FOR BOTH TRUE CHAMPIONS HARD WORK PAYS OFF 2024 THE YEAR OF GREATNESS FOR US ALL AMEN💯🙏💪👍🌏🌎🌍POWER PRAYERS TO ALL COMPETITIONS THANKS TO ALL THE STAFF JUDGING CLEANING CREWS BLESS EVER SUPER JOB BE PROUD YOU TO ARE CHAMPIONS🙏💯👍👊💪🌏🌎🌍
Hard work? LMAO. Hard drugs!! Roids!
@@richallen6764 Stop. Its hard work. Roids made the hard work converted into better amount of weight lifted. Using Roids not mean that they are not hard work. If you not work hard, even a house of Roids cant help ya.
@@internationalplayer107 They have the technique. That helps a lot. Then roids. Then strength. They are all cheaters.
@@richallen6764 Nope. Its strength, technique, then roids. Roids isn't extreme power, you can't inject yourself with hundred of kgs of Roids and hope that you can destroy every WR. They need a good strength and they are 1% of human in the world, those genetics are superior. If they all cheaters, why only a few of them can dominate the sport, why not each of them get a WR?
@@richallen6764 this is like the 30th time you've said this, under a single video, do you have some kind of steroid fetish? We already know they're on the juice and we don't really care honestly, just enjoy the competition. Spamming the exact same comment under this video won't make the sport clean.
Ma sya Allah Indonesia luar biasa semoga rahmat dan rizky dapt mendali emas di olimpiade untk Indonesia..aamiin
When rahmat is ready he could easily get 163kg in the snatch and 206kg in the clean and jerk at 73kg
Great parent for the champion, cant for the next world record attempt bro Rahmat, ghass teros
whats the background theme you used?
incredible vert!
I don't understand why he, if he was aiming for total WR, lifted two kilos under in snatch?
What happened to guy resting on the floor?
Sayangnya rizky dulu cidera ya, kalau dia sehat pasti ada harapan mau pindah kelas dari jauh2 hari😢
Tetap susah, nambah 16 kg lean mass dalam waktu singkat, dan harus qualify 10 besar di kelas 89 yg lawannya super2 tangguh
Rizki pindah ke kelas 89kg meski bisa ngalahin Zul Ilmi tetap Sulit untuk Qualify Top 10 Besar meski nambah 16kg Berat Badan ,Ya mungkin meningkat Angkatan nya misal Snatch 170 Clean&Jerk 205 pun Total 375 belum Aman
The initial pull is so slow. Is it how he is coached or genetically just a limit he works with? Anyone know?
I know the first phase isn't where most of the force is generated so some lifters wait until the 2nd phase to really apply themselves at full. Personally I slowed down the first phase probably a year into my lifting but nothing like this.
Grandes
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#AngkatBesiJuara
sayang rizki tahun lalu cedera😢
👏👏😱
What surgery did he have???
Appendix surgery
What surgery did Rizki have?
appendectomy
Thanks!@@masayash
Oh god and i am passedout lifting 50 kg sement 😂
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semoga dapat emas olimpiade
Shi
Where the hell is the Chinese Team!? 🤔
Saving their energy for the world cup next month
Can you do a video on your thoughts about steroids and other drugs in weighting?
He already did and he even spoke with athletes that have been tested positive. Now days the antidpoing testing is way more strict than ever before. The only arguably thing is how countries like North Korea get tested out of competetion.
What's your obsession with the drugs? Seen you lurking around a few of the comments saying stuff like this, far more interesting discussions to be had around weightlifting as a sport than just issues with doping
@AwesomeCo1 They are all doped up. Also, people are dopes if they think these cheaters are not doped up. Are you one of those dopes? BTW I can comment anywhere and anytime I choose.
@pateHNBTA BS. They let these lifters get juiced so they lift more pounds. Brings more people in. More people on attendance, more money@
@@richallen6764 people are well aware of this. If your statement holds true in that all of them are doped up, then what difference does it make. And yeah you can comment anywhere you like, but repeatedly rattling on about how everyone's on steroids makes you look a bit odd ngl
gilaaaaaaaa
Rahmat sounds like a lazy git
I’d like to be as lazy as him.
They all use roids
???????
you do realize it's normal for coaches to do most things for their athletes at comps right?
>Junior sets 2 world records back to back in a single meet
Internet commenters: "lazy git"
?????