Apprecaite the comment my friend! Thanks for dropping by :) the funny thing is they actually added classes to the game now, but the playstyle still stands. What class did you go with in the end?
MOST complete video about classes and combinations, only would be better if included visual reference about the weapon combo in each case, but thanks for this amazing guide
Thank you for dropping by, I don't think i can play every build proficiently therefore it was more of a taster rather than that. I might do some more indepth builds later for a few weapons.
Another great vid. Short, to the point and nice showcase for some really cool looking skills. I don’t know how the yt algorithm works, but maybe it could be beneficial to also split the vid into shorts for each class, to drive some engagement?
Appreciate it my friend! I love hearing what videos would be useful for people to get to know the game, i'm sure that if i just make content that's useful my audience will grow :D. Having said that I think your suggestion to split the video and do more indepth builds for each class will be on my list!
It defo is one of the flashier builds. One thing is that this build only works when you're ahead of the curve with evasion, i.e. if the server is stacking hit then you'll have a rough time if you're not deck in evasion gear.
Hi unfortunately I do not, if you're interested around creator called @Invulnerable-twitch does a pretty good one heres the link - th-cam.com/video/Xe0elwf0pqY/w-d-xo.html
@@EzClops absolutely fine for leveling, and your average pace encounters but for pushing those challenge dungeons wouldn’t be the first on the list as there’s dps that’ll outshine it. But in pvp oh boy does it slap
Same! I wish they had a summoner user in this! But then again, it will make them large scale battles even more laggy with all the pets and summons out xD
Is it possible to do Sword and Shield + Staff? Or, are the only classes the combinations mentioned? Two more questions: 1. Are wand and bow the only weapons with healing abilities, if not, what are the others? 2. Do all the weapons have some area of effect abilities, or are there some single target on weapons? Thanks.
Hi mate, thanks for dropping by. You can do whatever combo of weapon you like, I just mentioned the "meta" builds. So sword and staff for a battlemage type build is possible. Wand and bow are the only weapons that have help/recovery skills. so you will have to play a variation of those weapons to heal. Mainly wands is the healing weapon. Alot of the weapons have aoe abilities. Also every single weapon has AoE, but weapons like staff have the most.
Nice that you’re replying to every comment, will sub for that. I like the aesthetics of machine gun caster. Is that possible with bow staff too, or just xbow staff?
Appreciate the sub and dropping by to check out my content. Been busy with launch but i try my best. With bow staff its more like long cast with big explosive aoe spells. So less "rapid" and more "grand" :D
Great video! Some questions: How free to play is this game? What’s the most meta build at the moment both pve & pvp? I traditionally plays mage in mmos any recommended build?
The game is f2p in the sense you can reach the same power level as someone that p2w. Also just download the game and play its plently of fun until you decide to move on. If you're looking to play mage, consider staff/dagger, that is a meta build for pvp. For both pvp and pve maybe try staff/bow.
What about SnS and Staff? I'm also a little confused how SnS/GS can be the tankiest combo, but SnS/Ward "can't die".... surely can't die is the most tanky?
Sns staff is possible but just off meta 🫡 I guess for me when I said that it was about the raw tankiness stats that each class bring rather than sustain
Definitely the sleep bomber for me, however....no links to the described playstyles? Any chance you could lead me in the direction of how i can level this build?
Hey mate, i'd consider using maxroll - maxroll.gg/throne-and-liberty/build-guides?filter[classes][taxonomy]=taxonomies.classes&filter[classes][value]=wand , theres plently of builds here to check out :)
Is it possible to get/make multiple class builds on the same character (regardless of upgrade costs)? or is it better to make a new character for a different build?
Depends on if you’re changing from being melee to range for example, if it’s from traditional tank to paladin that’s fine. The problem is the lack of resources you get become a problem if you do full skill gear swaps
Its a same that with most tank classes you have to hit a certain threshold of gear before you become god like, and as a results its unfortunately a class that benefits the most from swiping :(
I agree, the west defo does not like any games that require swiping and won't hold masses of players for the longhaul. There is a argument that actually a coordinated bunch of less gear people can beat more geared guilds, because this game is more large scale engagements, it seems the odd whale here or there may not impact this too much. This has happened in KR where lower geared guilds have beaten the p2w guilds.
I think it was Epherium vs Transmigrate - @gretoncasts was talking about it on his twitch. Transmigrate had way better gear 4500+ gs on average, but they lost from good coordination, tactics and positions from Epherium. At least this is what I heard from him :D
I wouldn't say Wand/Staff is master of nothing at all. In Large Scale PvP mass AoE matters the most and can/does win you sieges or high choke war maps. Wand/Staff is the best at this, with the their AoE bind CC (especially with T2 Black Gale Staff). No one else compares or can provide the AoE range CC support they do. They are also very tanky if built correctly. If you find yourself squishy as a Wand/Staff, you are likely not geared correctly or built as a DPS more than a tanky healer. Good on the healer stuff overall though!
In the last seige, the choke once the wall was broke was perma AoE binded for our Bow/Staff users, so agree on that. I guess i tried to be more general and not linking the builds to the weapons (especially as t2 won't be out for awhile on Global launch). Regarding squishiness, trying to compare it to the wand/bow which i find tankier, so squishy by association. But do take your point. Watched some of your stuff in the past too, thanks :D
@@Nellyjai No worries at all! Also, refreshing to have these kind of conversations and it's a good back-and-forth haha. Glad to have you playing the game and great video again!
This guy Grimms has a very good xbow/dagger build and explaination here -> questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/ceqiku-luhuxohi-luwudoti?build-id=136169
Definitely going great sword but for secondary might go xbow,bow, or wand. Thoughts on GS + ranged weapon? didn't see it in your video but pretty interested in that combination.
Great shout out, great sword with anything is actually pretty decent. I’ve just not included it as it’s abit off “meta”. GS/staff or bow or even xbow have a place in pvp due to the nature of GS providing tanky stats and movement and the other weapons dishing out dps.
I have a question , is stealth skills come from dagger weapon ? because I like stealth gameplay and could not decide to choose assassin or hunter ? whats your suggestion ? I will be playing mostly for PVE content since I will probably not have a guild for the first few weeks
I think the hunter given the hunters mark ability is super desired in pve dungeons / party play. Also it has range so more friendly for new players and dodging things. I am playing bow/dagger (Hunter) as my alt character :)
Is changing “classes” as simple as switching weapons out? Can you theoretically play as anything if you level up and bring all the weapons with you? Never played this before and I bought early access, I’m pretty excited.
You can change weapons about to get access to different skills but as you won’t have enough mats at the start to upgrade all the skills it best to stick with one.
If you gear up correctly you'll be unkillable, literally whole guilds could be hitting you and if you play well you just survive forever. In that regards your job is not to do damage but just to stay alive =D, so i guess you could say you make it for it.
What would you use for a bomb squad but also works in pve and other pvp situations? I am thinking wand/dagger or sns/dagger can be the shot caller. However, they may struggle a bit at pve. Or would you prefer traditional tanks like sns/gs or sns/wand more?
I was thinking of going traditional tank, but as it was the only one that you said might need some swiping, it immediately turned me off would explain why I've heard tank is in very high demand because of the low amount of players doing it
With the traditional tank, there are builds that are less swipey, but as you're a tank and likely to be hit all the time, if you do not have defensive upgrades you'll feel it very quickly. You can still play tank as f2p (As p2w only fast tracks the progression) because you will still be able to reach the same heights as a p2w, but ofc much slower, so if you don't mind slowly building your gear over time, you will reach the same freshhold as a p2w player abeit later.
Could you please provide the basics of the Sleep Bomber build? Or, if possible, provide the full build. It is not very popular, so there is no point in looking for guides and builds on the Internet. Regards.
@@Nellyjai I haven't seen a build like yours before, which is why I'm so interested. Could you show how your Dagger Wand character was built? I'd be extremely grateful.
I was first thinking of making sword+sheidl/staff build does it have any possibility to be viable? then i tought of paladin you described in this video and now i am torn between it and GS+S&SH
I have a PvP tier list as another video on my channel, do feel free to go check it out. As with PvE it’s not something I have recorded yet but happy to answer questions if you have them.
@@Nellyjai I'm planing to play this game with bro as duo So we are discussing what classes to pick for pve and arena 3V3 Obviously we'll need a front lane so probably one of us will take the SNS/wand to play the front lane + support But I'm not sure what would be the idea second class, any suggestions? Thanks for replying btw
@aiman6131 I think in arena they cap it at one gs and one wand per team. So if you’re going for one sns/wand you’re only really left with dps. Probably try staff/dagger and xbow/dagger. The reason being some characters build high evasion for one damage type (melee,range, magic) when you find out who is stacking a certain evasion type don’t hit them and go for someone else. This game is rock paper scissors, so you’ll likely be losing if you just have a rock and paper.
@@kutikado7956 as with every weapon in the game it is possible to go more dps. In this instance it’ll be using more bow skills other supportive skills. There is limited options for good offensive skill in this weapon choice but nothing stopping you from doing it, just not optimal if you want to min/max as a dps. There is consideration that if you’re pushing high level challenge dungeons with a very good group to take less supportive skills and more dps options as everyone is good and won’t need as much heals, so you’ll find yourself doing more dps to help clear quicker whilst healing for party wide damage.
If you loved rogue for the CC, control, and explosive finisher combos - Great Sword / Dagger is the way (plus you're melee). If you loved rogue for the higher apm play, zipping in and out, then xBow / Dagger. A true assassin is more like Great Sword / Dagger tbh, plus they're pretty strong in all sorts of pvp especially Arena (3v3).
So you could play a staff/dagger build, where you use majority spells from a staff, and using the movement abilities of the dagger / stealth of the dagger. That way most the time you've just got your staff out. Also just to note you don't actually have to press anything to switch weapons. Instead you press the skill and it automatically pulls it out and then goes back to you main. For example, if you're holding a bow in your main hand, and you press fireball, it casts fireball using the staff, but it continues after to auto attack with the bow.
Theres not really the typical mmorpg "buff" you can give your allies, but things like Sword and Shield has damage sharing links (Can spec it to do more skill damage), reduce damage areas etc There are a few things that increase defence, better at receiving incoming heals from wand, but not like your typical buff.
do you recommend a build for sleep bomber to do while leveling? is it possible to do something betetr for leveling then efficiently switching over at max level?
generally i think the curse of despair (dot) + poison from daggers into your curse explosion gives you some good burst at the start to clear things, and your daggers skills can then be fillers. If you find it too slow i know some guildies are mine are experimenting with staff/bow.
Over time yes, it is possible to go maintain a SnS/GS (Bruiser) and SnS/Wand (Paladin) build in one go. At the start i'd recommend sticking to one to consolidate your resources and get strong quicker. If you're goal is just to have fun with different builds by all means go for it off the bat, but if you want to be competitive, stick to one at the start.
What do you think about these builds when playing with 1 friend Artillery mage + healing mage OR Machine gun mage + healing mage Or is healing not really an issue while leveling and i should just go artillery + machine gun? lol Thanks for the vid
So the level experience is easy as one person if you've played mmorpgs before in the past. So have two of anything is fine. Leveling is just the beginning of the game, so play the weapon combo/class that appeals to you the most because you'll be using it for a long time :)
@@Nellyjai Haven't really played an MMORPG since the days where leveling was the game haha. But alright sounds good thanks! I guess I will I'll see if artillery + machine gun makes sense when we play!
You can play Paladin and change the skills depending on what you want to do. In PvE you can build a DoT/curse explosion build, you can also do that build with aoe by spreading the curses and using the aoe spells from the sword and shield. It also super strong in pvp allowing you to heal yourself.
the best would probably be bow/staff or gs/dagger , if you define best as quickest. But all classes will be able to solo level to max, so don't base leveling as a reason to pick a class. Play what you think is cool :)
@@Nellyjai Thank you for the response. Does the game have PK (kos) in PvE areas? In that case is there a recommended build for both solo PvE and PvP? I would love a bow/staff for PvE or group PvP, but at the same time something extremely mobile to engage and disengage quickly for solo PvP.
@@doomshaman5853 zones on the map that have PvP events on them will turn into PvP areas. The only other place that has open world PvP is in open dungeons during in game night time. Else everywhere is telegraphed PvP.
daggers do add to dps they can give alot of passive crit buffs which is why they are so strong alos wand and tome have 1 strong burst rotation with curse bomb thats is able to one shot a gourp of people by giving debuf sharing debuf and letting the debuf explode
Ah sorry, I meant that daggers active skills themselve are quite weak in comparisonl to the other weapons skills (damage wise). 100% agree passive skills on dagger are super good, but because of that you hardly see dagger as a primary weapon and more of a secondary weapon for its passives.
Unfortunately I'm not a xbow/dagger main, I'd use questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder to find some build. On a quick search just saw a few decent looking xbow/dagger from grimmkill. He has it public so you might be able to see - questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/ceqiku-luhuxohi-luwudoti?build-id=8623
@@flowless1773 Paladins really just shine in keeping yourself healed up tbh. I mean you could heal others but at that point why not just go full heal build.
Hi mate, sorry i'm not a content write on maxroll. But there are plently for the xbow/dagger on this link - maxroll.gg/throne-and-liberty/build-guides?filter[classes][taxonomy]=taxonomies.classes&filter[classes][value]=crossbow
This is a great video on play styles... BUT nothing in this video goes over actual builds. What specific abilities and passives does each of these "builds" use? What stats?
Its a playstyle guide yup. Literally at 0:34 i say its about giving new players a flavour of the class rather than a detail breakdown of rotations. Just trying to help those coming from traditional mmorpgs associate weapon combos with "classes".
@@Nellyjai This video did a phenomenal job explaining each build without a 'tier list'. Simple and to the point of comparisons as to what role each class does. I would think a class deep-dive would need to be a much, much longer video, or broken down into a specific video for each weapon combination.
@@eklipze7520 appreciate it buddy. I didn't want to overwhelm newer players. Just quick and dirty, this is roughly what this class does and boom move onto the next :) Theres plenlty of deep dives out there, plus I don't think I'm good enough to give that advise haha. Thanks for dropping by
I think the range dps classes are easy to get into. This is for both PvP and pve. I personally recommend bow/dagger or staff/dagger or even bow/staff are all pretty fun.
I think Bow/Dagger is very new player friendly as a dps. Swordshield and great sword is also very good for PvE and friendly for new player. This game really thrives on group play so encourage you to do so :)
@@Nellyjai I’m hoping to. I’m 48 and played games for years including destiny 2 so I’m used to playing online but don’t know anyone else who will be playing this.
@@BryanSp its okay :) because the game is mainly built around guilds, the game makes it easy to find a guild. also you can check the official discord channel in recruitment for friendly guilds discord.gg/playthroneandliberty
Hi, i would like to know what dps is that one who cursed or poison the enemies.. ? Because i would like to be a DoT dps or that one who debuff bosses and make them week haha
Oooh you'll probably want to play Wand/dagger or Wand/staff. Thats the closest to that warlock playstyle where you've got dots, aoe curse and also casting.
As long as you do damage you have a chance to get loot (If you're in a party it takes party damage). The exact math I don't believe is available but if you do more damage you will have a higher chance of getting loot. One thing to note is that items drop on the floor, so when you walk over them and its "yours" it will be picked up, if for example you die and after a period of time you don't pick it up, the item is a free for all, so in PvP flag world boss events, people kill anyone trying to collect loot and wait for the items to become free for all.
You can defo kill people with the build, it takes some time to setup stacking the DOTs and exploding them but you should be fine. Its super strong in all sorts of pvp!
Hi, you seem very knowledgeable and would love if you could help me with a decision between which class to play. I’m waiting for global release of game. I’ve narrowed it down to either sns/gs, gs/dagger, staff/bow, dagger/bow or staff/dagger. I mainly want to pvp but of course I will pve as I level up. Farm materials and weapons and gear so I need to also be strong for pve dps Of the combos I listed for PVE dps which one is best? Next question is in terms of 1v1 3v3 and if I want to try the bigger guild battles. Of the weapon combos I listed. Which do you think is better to 1v1 someone. Or in group scenario or more. Which combo can kill fast and stay alive well. I read that range is not as strong as melee but I seen some clips where range really does very good against people kills fast and seems to stay alive well. How would range compare to the melee gs builds if the range builds came into 1v1 or 3v3 etc against melee. Which of these weapon combos is easier to learn? Which has higher potential. And which is probably easier to go kill someone fast and pvp and pve idk.. Any advise please. Also which armor would I need and any info please. I seen tier lists and I narrowed down between those melee and range combos I mentioned. I rlly like idea of the staff and range etc. but I don’t Wana die fast and be squishy I want to be strong high damage
Thank you for stopping by. If you're interested in understand what is best in pvp check out my tier list video. Now to answer the questions SnS/GS, GS/Dagger are your melee choices, and Staff/Bow , Bow/Dagger, and Staff/dagger are your ranged. For PvE (Defined at farming and dungeons), SnS/GS is top tier in PvE, there is no one that will dispute your effectiveness as a tank in dungeons. The rest are decent but if I had to put a ranking oh what i'd take into my party for high end PvE it'll be , Staff/Bow, Bow/Dagger , Staff/Dagger, GS/dagger. In terms of 1v1 and 3v3, anything with GS is normally meta (Or competitive), so SnS/GS and GS/Daggers are god tier in those regards, with SnS/GS leading on this ranking. The Bow/Staff will struggle in both these scenarios as you'll just get jumped on my someone that uses GS and your just getting smacked in your face until you fall over or get saved. Bow or Staff/Dagger, or decent in these scenarios as you have dagger to escape. Overall if you enjoy tanking (Because thats what you'd be doing as a SnS/anything), then I suggest SnS/GS, as that is not only easy to play and be impactful but also strong in almost all scenarios. If you're looking to just hit things from afar, i'd consider Bow/Dagger as its friendly for newer players and forgiving if you get caught. With regards to armour and build. consider using questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder - there any many builds on there for all different types of weapons. Hope this helps.
well cool okey nice builds. but for a first timer i stil have barely no idea what weapon i need to use. like the hybrid mage, what weapons? how many what
I got you bro. If you want to play a hybrid mage then it’s, either: - staff / dagger - like a combat mage - staff / bow - like a aoe long range mage - staff / wand - healer mage
You have time to decide, but you really can't go wrong with either. I will be doing a tier list shortly so maybe that'll help but I rate bow/staff higher for pve, pvp(Large scale) content than bow/dagger. Bow/Dagger for me in small-mid scale pvp is better experience.
@@Nellyjai my friend who has been playing for some time now, told me cross/dagger and I think that's what Ill play. Ill be mostly solo/small scale and arenas/bgs w/e it has. War will be out of my time play.
Just be mindful that right at the start its hard get enough resources to be able to upgrade your weapons and skill on multiple weapons. Over time that seems solid! Good luck and hope you enjoy the builds mate :)
Its not that its not an option, just one that is off meta. GS/Staff is like your battlemage, where you're tanky from the greatsword and you have spells from your staff.
Ooohh, in that case, might i recommend a different approach and recommend easy classes for beginners. If you like being the one at the front and protecting your team mates, I'd suggest the Sword&Shield With Greatsword (Traditional Tank), if you like to heal people and support them in battle the wand/bow (Priest), and if you like to do damage to things I suggest the bow/dagger (Hunter build).
No, early access will be on their own server clusters until a later date in which you can transfer off the server, probably a month or so in. So if you’re play early access you’ve gotta stay on early access servers
@@aqwmashalo personally I’m going to play on the early access because I just can’t wait, but make my main character on the live servers. I just think the live servers are going to more populated and have more flexibility because you’re allowed to transfer to whatever server you want (even early access ones) but early access cannot transfer to live servers straight away. Either way because transfer exists at one point you’ll have full freedom on any server. Just pick the servers your friends will play on 😉
I'd consider that the bruiser build, having more GS skills than SnS skills. You lose the block from holding SnS in your main hand which is huge, but you get different mastery stats from holding your GS in your main hand. Small difference but more or less the same playstyle.
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@@Nellyjai yeah, I think so, but I'm a total noob and played only EU beta. Had 2 chars - S&W and Xbow&Dagger.. Can't say I struggled with Xbow+dagger but S&W is quite safe+quite a good damage. The downside is people expect you to be a healer even if you're more staf invested for dmg. My plan is to lvl with S&W and then switch to Staf&bow.. but not sure if it is a good strat
@@adhominem_ I actually think its better to level as Staff&Bow, if you're looking for effeciency. It is a pretty cool build and one owns in large scale pvp. You can't go wrong with either.
@@Nellyjai thanks for an advice! Large scale PvP is smth I'm looking forward in the endgame, but does it carry you through leveling? I loved wand for a self sustain. I do understand that prob I'll have to position myself better and I'll have more dps with S&Bow but does it have some form of self sustain or self peel? I'll take your advice anyways since I'm total noob
Don’t worry too much about leveling is quite easy and doable on basically all builds. The bow has a few heals / heal over time spells to sustain you. Plus it has a few passives that help with defence, like shields from getting weakened and endurances stats that reduce crit hit on you. You have an escape with staff too so it’s not bad. You’ll be fine with both. Go with your gut 🫡
There is nothing stopping you from using Wand and Dagger in PvE, you will still be able to get through the content. The only problems is when challenge dungeons come out and you really want to be min maxing. At that point you could also have a 3rd secondary weapon, like the bow that you passively level for that scenario, which allows you to switch between the play styles.
Unfortunately you can’t swap skill level easily to another weapons skill. You can do this using premium currency, which you can farm as a free to play player but it’s long. The leveling process isn’t too long so many an alt angle if you want the builds straight away. But if your happy with grinding the other builds slowly then one character is fine
@@dinokamil to help you with deciding between Bow/dagger vs xbow/dagger Another perspective is that it’s a lot more “chilled” with bow/dagger as your staying at range sniping whereas xbow/dagger you have to be close, but i find this play style more rewarding and cool to see. Both at the end of the day is fun for different reasons!
what nelly is saying is how mechanically skilled are you? xbow dagger has higher top end dps with more apm . bow dagger has lower top end dps and apm and more survivability in longer range and utility in counter stealth . Also i think xbow will continue to receive nerfs as it still seems to be melting tanks at high end in 2-3 seconds in pvp.
Id say xbow/daggers. You can use offhand chance bonuses to apply on both weapons. Bow won't be really good for distance since you become close combat as soon as you use your daggers so... you get good speed/evasion abilities with xbow to fit a assassin playstyle
Its a decent build, you're like a battlemage, you got the tankiness and movement of the greatsword, and the damage and aoe of the staff. Its off meta, but still viable.
Both are pretty welcomed builds in PvP. Large scale will favour the Longbow/staff as your literally dumpstering on clumps of enemies with big flashy aoe spells. In small skirmishes you'll feel alot more vunerable. As there is less distractions from lower number of people, you generally stick out more. With Staff/dagger, its definitely alot more "out player" potential when you're zipping between positions using stealth to pick off people with instant casts like ice lance barriages. Theres still some aoe but nothing like the Bow/Staff. Also if you like arena, this class is pretty good too! What you can do is take Staff/bow as your main, and if its not working for you, take a dagger when you're in those smaller skirmishes. Either way both super fun don't sweat it too much buddy.
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this is exactly what I was searching for thank you man! dope video and to the point!
Thank you for the support and glad the video could help! Much appreciated
Combat mage and Machine Gun mage are for sure gonna be the first two I try and main. They look amazing and lots of fun.
I'm considering doing the same just for early access!
Same I want to try those for sure. I can’t wait
Thank you for such a straight forward and organized guide! Genuinely the best breakdown of play styles I’ve seen on the game so far.
Apprecaite the comment my friend! Thanks for dropping by :) the funny thing is they actually added classes to the game now, but the playstyle still stands. What class did you go with in the end?
God, I miss CLASSES
I do like the traditional class type mmorpgs. But the flexibility this game offers is pretty neat ;)
Coming in with zero knowledge, video was a big help!
Glad it helped you and thanks for stopping by
Perfect video for any new player to this game 👌🔥
MOST complete video about classes and combinations, only would be better if included visual reference about the weapon combo in each case, but thanks for this amazing guide
Thank you for dropping by, I don't think i can play every build proficiently therefore it was more of a taster rather than that. I might do some more indepth builds later for a few weapons.
Another great vid. Short, to the point and nice showcase for some really cool looking skills. I don’t know how the yt algorithm works, but maybe it could be beneficial to also split the vid into shorts for each class, to drive some engagement?
Appreciate it my friend! I love hearing what videos would be useful for people to get to know the game, i'm sure that if i just make content that's useful my audience will grow :D. Having said that I think your suggestion to split the video and do more indepth builds for each class will be on my list!
thanks! very nice to have a general idea on how the build might look, thanks :)
Thank you for the comments and dropping by
These image you have for every class is top tier
thanks for the comment :D hopefully it help put things into perspective
Tank or Paladin look really solid and fun for groups
Thanks for stopping by, you can't go wrong with either!
Evasion tank looks fun! Will probably try that build on launch.
It defo is one of the flashier builds. One thing is that this build only works when you're ahead of the curve with evasion, i.e. if the server is stacking hit then you'll have a rough time if you're not deck in evasion gear.
U need bellandir sns, a world boss weapon for the class to perform well. Good luck getting that
@@Nellyjai Do you have a guide for the class ?
Hi unfortunately I do not, if you're interested around creator called @Invulnerable-twitch does a pretty good one heres the link - th-cam.com/video/Xe0elwf0pqY/w-d-xo.html
@@Nellyjai Oh thanks, but he does not user the flashy skill that jumps from target to target...which is why I would play this build :D
wand/dagger is actually perfect solo and can do high single target and aoe damage. Also has self sustain is really good.
@@EzClops absolutely fine for leveling, and your average pace encounters but for pushing those challenge dungeons wouldn’t be the first on the list as there’s dps that’ll outshine it.
But in pvp oh boy does it slap
I thought of this combi and I call it "The Plague Doctor" 😂👌
@@ZitronCrazy ahhh your right! Very Diablo like haha. Maybe Warlock is more relatable. Wish I thought of that just before!
Thanks, when it launches i will watch your video again :)
Appreciate the support my friend! Are you leaning towards a class at the moment :D?
ouch , as a WoW Warlock main (back in the day), I'm sad there's no pet/minion/summoner class 😿
Same! I wish they had a summoner user in this! But then again, it will make them large scale battles even more laggy with all the pets and summons out xD
Is it possible to do Sword and Shield + Staff? Or, are the only classes the combinations mentioned?
Two more questions:
1. Are wand and bow the only weapons with healing abilities, if not, what are the others?
2. Do all the weapons have some area of effect abilities, or are there some single target on weapons?
Thanks.
Hi mate, thanks for dropping by.
You can do whatever combo of weapon you like, I just mentioned the "meta" builds. So sword and staff for a battlemage type build is possible.
Wand and bow are the only weapons that have help/recovery skills. so you will have to play a variation of those weapons to heal. Mainly wands is the healing weapon.
Alot of the weapons have aoe abilities. Also every single weapon has AoE, but weapons like staff have the most.
@@Nellyjai Thank you so much!
Nice that you’re replying to every comment, will sub for that.
I like the aesthetics of machine gun caster. Is that possible with bow staff too, or just xbow staff?
Appreciate the sub and dropping by to check out my content. Been busy with launch but i try my best.
With bow staff its more like long cast with big explosive aoe spells. So less "rapid" and more "grand" :D
Thanks for the great and useful tips. I can´t wait to start playing this game.
You're welcome buddy. Less than a week for early access!!!!! and just over a week for live launch, i can't wait!
Priest or healer is always my go to 😊
solid choice! you'll be well sought after :)
Commented on your Reddit post as well but I really found this helpful. Thanks.
Appreciate the support
Great video!
Some questions:
How free to play is this game?
What’s the most meta build at the moment both pve & pvp?
I traditionally plays mage in mmos any recommended build?
The game is f2p in the sense you can reach the same power level as someone that p2w. Also just download the game and play its plently of fun until you decide to move on.
If you're looking to play mage, consider staff/dagger, that is a meta build for pvp. For both pvp and pve maybe try staff/bow.
@@Nellyjai ty subbed and looking forward for future contents 💯
What about SnS and Staff?
I'm also a little confused how SnS/GS can be the tankiest combo, but SnS/Ward "can't die".... surely can't die is the most tanky?
Sns staff is possible but just off meta 🫡 I guess for me when I said that it was about the raw tankiness stats that each class bring rather than sustain
Classes do exist based on weapon combo, in character sheet, above your name is the class name of said combo
Definitely the sleep bomber for me, however....no links to the described playstyles? Any chance you could lead me in the direction of how i can level this build?
Hey mate, i'd consider using maxroll - maxroll.gg/throne-and-liberty/build-guides?filter[classes][taxonomy]=taxonomies.classes&filter[classes][value]=wand , theres plently of builds here to check out :)
Me too
Ty for the vid !
How easy is it to swap builds around ? I've heard kanon saying it's extremely costly to fck up or change builds
It’s not easy to swap , you can pay premium currency to trade skills across but the main thing is gear for different builds/classes are different
Is it possible to get/make multiple class builds on the same character (regardless of upgrade costs)? or is it better to make a new character for a different build?
Depends on if you’re changing from being melee to range for example, if it’s from traditional tank to paladin that’s fine. The problem is the lack of resources you get become a problem if you do full skill gear swaps
@@Nellyjai I see, then it would be better do make alts then for different damage types I suppose?
@@f_ire_ Yeah it probably better :D I have a Bow/Dagger as an alt and my main is SnS/GS
@@Nellyjai I see, thanks for the insight!
thanks for the video. I think Iam going to play xbow and wand
Oooh, it is a decent PvE build, but very off meta, so as long as you know what you're getting into you'll be fine ;)
Paladin,priest and combat mage will be my first 3 to play.
All really good classes :) Hope you enjoy them, I know Paladin is defo one of the top tier ones right now.
Great video BUT ! : they lost me at the part with : "you need to swipe your CC to stay strong" ........
Its a same that with most tank classes you have to hit a certain threshold of gear before you become god like, and as a results its unfortunately a class that benefits the most from swiping :(
@@Nellyjai i am afraid will end up like that not only on tanking but on every other aspect of the game . Swiping will be the end of this game.
I agree, the west defo does not like any games that require swiping and won't hold masses of players for the longhaul. There is a argument that actually a coordinated bunch of less gear people can beat more geared guilds, because this game is more large scale engagements, it seems the odd whale here or there may not impact this too much. This has happened in KR where lower geared guilds have beaten the p2w guilds.
They??
I think it was Epherium vs Transmigrate - @gretoncasts was talking about it on his twitch. Transmigrate had way better gear 4500+ gs on average, but they lost from good coordination, tactics and positions from Epherium. At least this is what I heard from him :D
I wouldn't say Wand/Staff is master of nothing at all. In Large Scale PvP mass AoE matters the most and can/does win you sieges or high choke war maps. Wand/Staff is the best at this, with the their AoE bind CC (especially with T2 Black Gale Staff). No one else compares or can provide the AoE range CC support they do. They are also very tanky if built correctly. If you find yourself squishy as a Wand/Staff, you are likely not geared correctly or built as a DPS more than a tanky healer. Good on the healer stuff overall though!
In the last seige, the choke once the wall was broke was perma AoE binded for our Bow/Staff users, so agree on that. I guess i tried to be more general and not linking the builds to the weapons (especially as t2 won't be out for awhile on Global launch). Regarding squishiness, trying to compare it to the wand/bow which i find tankier, so squishy by association. But do take your point. Watched some of your stuff in the past too, thanks :D
@@Nellyjai No worries at all! Also, refreshing to have these kind of conversations and it's a good back-and-forth haha. Glad to have you playing the game and great video again!
@@EliEli.MMOPVP creator love all around
@@Nellyjai Probably doing both Wand/Longbow and Wand/SnS. Wand/Longbow build first though.
Can you tell me more about The Aoe Bomber? Or where can I find more information about it
This guy Grimms has a very good xbow/dagger build and explaination here -> questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/ceqiku-luhuxohi-luwudoti?build-id=136169
Nice video bro !
Appreciate the comment bro, Thank!
Definitely going great sword but for secondary might go xbow,bow, or wand. Thoughts on GS + ranged weapon? didn't see it in your video but pretty interested in that combination.
Great shout out, great sword with anything is actually pretty decent. I’ve just not included it as it’s abit off “meta”. GS/staff or bow or even xbow have a place in pvp due to the nature of GS providing tanky stats and movement and the other weapons dishing out dps.
I have a question , is stealth skills come from dagger weapon ? because I like stealth gameplay and could not decide to choose assassin or hunter ? whats your suggestion ? I will be playing mostly for PVE content since I will probably not have a guild for the first few weeks
I think the hunter given the hunters mark ability is super desired in pve dungeons / party play. Also it has range so more friendly for new players and dodging things. I am playing bow/dagger (Hunter) as my alt character :)
Is changing “classes” as simple as switching weapons out? Can you theoretically play as anything if you level up and bring all the weapons with you?
Never played this before and I bought early access, I’m pretty excited.
You can change weapons about to get access to different skills but as you won’t have enough mats at the start to upgrade all the skills it best to stick with one.
I always love the paladin classes so I’m going to try that one first but I’m sure if I geared right, I could make up the low damage right?
If you gear up correctly you'll be unkillable, literally whole guilds could be hitting you and if you play well you just survive forever. In that regards your job is not to do damage but just to stay alive =D, so i guess you could say you make it for it.
What would you use for a bomb squad but also works in pve and other pvp situations? I am thinking wand/dagger or sns/dagger can be the shot caller. However, they may struggle a bit at pve. Or would you prefer traditional tanks like sns/gs or sns/wand more?
Xbow/dagger fits into a bomb squad and is s tier in pve. Else as you say sns/dagger or wand/dagger is okay
i for sure will try artillery mage
Super strong in large scale pvp. Enjoy seeing your name appear on the kill screen farming everyone :D
Good work!
@@salvatorediluca5742 much love ❤️
I was thinking of going traditional tank, but as it was the only one that you said might need some swiping, it immediately turned me off would explain why I've heard tank is in very high demand because of the low amount of players doing it
With the traditional tank, there are builds that are less swipey, but as you're a tank and likely to be hit all the time, if you do not have defensive upgrades you'll feel it very quickly. You can still play tank as f2p (As p2w only fast tracks the progression) because you will still be able to reach the same heights as a p2w, but ofc much slower, so if you don't mind slowly building your gear over time, you will reach the same freshhold as a p2w player abeit later.
Could you please provide the basics of the Sleep Bomber build? Or, if possible, provide the full build. It is not very popular, so there is no point in looking for guides and builds on the Internet.
Regards.
Hey mate, I’m not the best with wand/dagger so will have to rely on a build for questlog there are plenty of good ones out there 🫡
@@Nellyjai I haven't seen a build like yours before, which is why I'm so interested. Could you show how your Dagger Wand character was built? I'd be extremely grateful.
I was first thinking of making sword+sheidl/staff build does it have any possibility to be viable? then i tought of paladin you described in this video and now i am torn between it and GS+S&SH
sns/staff is very off meta build. Can work and is viable but its really not something you'll see alot of people look for
It would be great if you could create a tier list for PVP and one for PVE (Solo play + group play)
I have a PvP tier list as another video on my channel, do feel free to go check it out. As with PvE it’s not something I have recorded yet but happy to answer questions if you have them.
@@Nellyjai I'm planing to play this game with bro as duo
So we are discussing what classes to pick for pve and arena 3V3
Obviously we'll need a front lane so probably one of us will take the SNS/wand to play the front lane + support But I'm not sure what would be the idea second class, any suggestions?
Thanks for replying btw
@aiman6131 I think in arena they cap it at one gs and one wand per team. So if you’re going for one sns/wand you’re only really left with dps. Probably try staff/dagger and xbow/dagger. The reason being some characters build high evasion for one damage type (melee,range, magic) when you find out who is stacking a certain evasion type don’t hit them and go for someone else. This game is rock paper scissors, so you’ll likely be losing if you just have a rock and paper.
Thank you for the video. Is it possible to create a DPS build with a longbow and wand?
@@kutikado7956 as with every weapon in the game it is possible to go more dps. In this instance it’ll be using more bow skills other supportive skills. There is limited options for good offensive skill in this weapon choice but nothing stopping you from doing it, just not optimal if you want to min/max as a dps. There is consideration that if you’re pushing high level challenge dungeons with a very good group to take less supportive skills and more dps options as everyone is good and won’t need as much heals, so you’ll find yourself doing more dps to help clear quicker whilst healing for party wide damage.
@@Nellyjai thank you for your reply! I'll try this build! !
I went with Wand and Crossbow they just feel more my style but will do a different character eventually.
its decent dps in PvE
Exactly what I look for, but which one of those are current metas?
Hey mate, consider looking at the pvp tier list I have =] That'll tell you what I think are the meta builds
I played as a rogue in wow , and I loved it , any suggestions ? For something similar?
If you loved rogue for the CC, control, and explosive finisher combos - Great Sword / Dagger is the way (plus you're melee).
If you loved rogue for the higher apm play, zipping in and out, then xBow / Dagger.
A true assassin is more like Great Sword / Dagger tbh, plus they're pretty strong in all sorts of pvp especially Arena (3v3).
Ty for the answer m8 !!! Just subscribed!! The least I can do !!
Good video!!
@@oxD3MONxo appreciate the support 🙏
are there any builds that dont require weapon switching all the often? I am not a fan of constantly switching weapons
So you could play a staff/dagger build, where you use majority spells from a staff, and using the movement abilities of the dagger / stealth of the dagger. That way most the time you've just got your staff out.
Also just to note you don't actually have to press anything to switch weapons. Instead you press the skill and it automatically pulls it out and then goes back to you main. For example, if you're holding a bow in your main hand, and you press fireball, it casts fireball using the staff, but it continues after to auto attack with the bow.
This is what I'm looking for,this content,this information.Thanks man ! Now i have an idea what to do or choose to play 😂
Glad I could help! Appreciate the kind word 😉
Also bow and dagger and dagger and crossbows are high dps literally doing 3 or 4 v1 with both builds
Crossbow/dagger is awesome in pvp and pve
Sleep bomber reminds of the main character skills in "Failure Frame" the anime 😈
Not familiar with the anime but are you going for the wand / dagger build then ? 😋
@@Nellyjai nope lmao
😂😂😂 what you going for in the end ?
@@Nellyjai staff/dagger
Is there a weapon combination that has many buffs for the group or does that not exist in T&L ?
Theres not really the typical mmorpg "buff" you can give your allies, but things like Sword and Shield has damage sharing links (Can spec it to do more skill damage), reduce damage areas etc There are a few things that increase defence, better at receiving incoming heals from wand, but not like your typical buff.
do you recommend a build for sleep bomber to do while leveling? is it possible to do something betetr for leveling then efficiently switching over at max level?
generally i think the curse of despair (dot) + poison from daggers into your curse explosion gives you some good burst at the start to clear things, and your daggers skills can then be fillers. If you find it too slow i know some guildies are mine are experimenting with staff/bow.
Will I be able to switch between bruiser (for solo pve) and paladin (for group content PvP and PvE)?
Over time yes, it is possible to go maintain a SnS/GS (Bruiser) and SnS/Wand (Paladin) build in one go. At the start i'd recommend sticking to one to consolidate your resources and get strong quicker. If you're goal is just to have fun with different builds by all means go for it off the bat, but if you want to be competitive, stick to one at the start.
What do you think about these builds when playing with 1 friend
Artillery mage + healing mage OR Machine gun mage + healing mage
Or is healing not really an issue while leveling and i should just go artillery + machine gun? lol
Thanks for the vid
So the level experience is easy as one person if you've played mmorpgs before in the past. So have two of anything is fine. Leveling is just the beginning of the game, so play the weapon combo/class that appeals to you the most because you'll be using it for a long time :)
@@Nellyjai Haven't really played an MMORPG since the days where leveling was the game haha. But alright sounds good thanks! I guess I will I'll see if artillery + machine gun makes sense when we play!
@@JustinYummy Enjoy the game buddy. Whatever you guys decide will be fine :) at least those two builds you've mentioned.
Staff & X bow with med armor to be a little tanky with focus on Dex & Perception
Happy machine gunning 😂
I want to play an tanky paladin who does good single for pve and aoe damage for pvp. What would you recommend me?
You can play Paladin and change the skills depending on what you want to do. In PvE you can build a DoT/curse explosion build, you can also do that build with aoe by spreading the curses and using the aoe spells from the sword and shield. It also super strong in pvp allowing you to heal yourself.
What would best as solo leveling build?
the best would probably be bow/staff or gs/dagger , if you define best as quickest. But all classes will be able to solo level to max, so don't base leveling as a reason to pick a class. Play what you think is cool :)
@@Nellyjai Thank you for the response. Does the game have PK (kos) in PvE areas? In that case is there a recommended build for both solo PvE and PvP? I would love a bow/staff for PvE or group PvP, but at the same time something extremely mobile to engage and disengage quickly for solo PvP.
@@doomshaman5853 zones on the map that have PvP events on them will turn into PvP areas. The only other place that has open world PvP is in open dungeons during in game night time. Else everywhere is telegraphed PvP.
daggers do add to dps they can give alot of passive crit buffs which is why they are so strong alos wand and tome have 1 strong burst rotation with curse bomb thats is able to one shot a gourp of people by giving debuf sharing debuf and letting the debuf explode
Ah sorry, I meant that daggers active skills themselve are quite weak in comparisonl to the other weapons skills (damage wise). 100% agree passive skills on dagger are super good, but because of that you hardly see dagger as a primary weapon and more of a secondary weapon for its passives.
why no staff/greatsword?
It is possible just not including because it’s off meta right now.
do u recommend any builds for xbow/dagger?
Unfortunately I'm not a xbow/dagger main, I'd use questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder to find some build. On a quick search just saw a few decent looking xbow/dagger from grimmkill. He has it public so you might be able to see - questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/ceqiku-luhuxohi-luwudoti?build-id=8623
@@Nellyjai Oh wow, thank youuuu so much! Also great videos!
Hey mate how about SnS with wand? Do you think that would be good for solo content Pve/Pvp ?
It is very good for both. You can easily air farm in pve and your in killable (almost) in small scale pvp
@Nellyjai thanks mate for the response and you earned a sub 👍
paladin still has decent heals ? i know bow/wand is best but actually being tanky and still do some heals is not bad
Decent heals in the sense it could keep you alive, but enough to keep the whole party topped off, probably not.
@@Nellyjai can heal enough for a party of 3-4 open world pvp ?
@@flowless1773 Paladins really just shine in keeping yourself healed up tbh. I mean you could heal others but at that point why not just go full heal build.
Do you have a maxroll planner or so for the aoe bomber i cant find anything
Hi mate, sorry i'm not a content write on maxroll. But there are plently for the xbow/dagger on this link - maxroll.gg/throne-and-liberty/build-guides?filter[classes][taxonomy]=taxonomies.classes&filter[classes][value]=crossbow
This is a great video on play styles... BUT nothing in this video goes over actual builds. What specific abilities and passives does each of these "builds" use? What stats?
Its a playstyle guide yup. Literally at 0:34 i say its about giving new players a flavour of the class rather than a detail breakdown of rotations. Just trying to help those coming from traditional mmorpgs associate weapon combos with "classes".
@@Nellyjai This video did a phenomenal job explaining each build without a 'tier list'. Simple and to the point of comparisons as to what role each class does.
I would think a class deep-dive would need to be a much, much longer video, or broken down into a specific video for each weapon combination.
@@eklipze7520 appreciate it buddy. I didn't want to overwhelm newer players. Just quick and dirty, this is roughly what this class does and boom move onto the next :) Theres plenlty of deep dives out there, plus I don't think I'm good enough to give that advise haha. Thanks for dropping by
Are there really no "dark" classes/spells like a warlock or shadow priest?
The DoT type characters are wand users. So a shadow priest could be wand/staff or wand/dagger for like a assassin warlock type character
@@Nellyjai Ah I see okay, thank you for the info!
What are the best classes for F2P in the beginning stages?
I think the range dps classes are easy to get into. This is for both PvP and pve.
I personally recommend bow/dagger or staff/dagger or even bow/staff are all pretty fun.
@@Nellyjai Yeah probably the bow/dagger since my bro may go with paladin
What would you recommend for a mmo noob? Probably solo and mostly pve?
I think Bow/Dagger is very new player friendly as a dps. Swordshield and great sword is also very good for PvE and friendly for new player. This game really thrives on group play so encourage you to do so :)
@@Nellyjai I’m hoping to. I’m 48 and played games for years including destiny 2 so I’m used to playing online but don’t know anyone else who will be playing this.
@@BryanSp its okay :) because the game is mainly built around guilds, the game makes it easy to find a guild. also you can check the official discord channel in recruitment for friendly guilds discord.gg/playthroneandliberty
need a detailed guide on the bruiser with greatsword and sns
On the way shortly 🫡
Hi, i would like to know what dps is that one who cursed or poison the enemies.. ? Because i would like to be a DoT dps or that one who debuff bosses and make them week haha
Oooh you'll probably want to play Wand/dagger or Wand/staff. Thats the closest to that warlock playstyle where you've got dots, aoe curse and also casting.
@@Nellyjai ty so much brother. I'll see you in the battlefield
May the RNG gods bless you :)
what is the best PVE?
Best Tank for PvE - SnS / Greatsword (Traditional tank), best healer is Wand/bow (Priest), and then best dps is the xbow / dagger (aoe bomber).
Is sns and wand viable for world bosses? Or are you not gonna get loot?
As long as you do damage you have a chance to get loot (If you're in a party it takes party damage). The exact math I don't believe is available but if you do more damage you will have a higher chance of getting loot.
One thing to note is that items drop on the floor, so when you walk over them and its "yours" it will be picked up, if for example you die and after a period of time you don't pick it up, the item is a free for all, so in PvP flag world boss events, people kill anyone trying to collect loot and wait for the items to become free for all.
@@Nellyjai Ty much very helpful! I’ll sub
Really want to play a Pally but if it means i can't kill anyone I'll have to keep looking at other classes
You can defo kill people with the build, it takes some time to setup stacking the DOTs and exploding them but you should be fine. Its super strong in all sorts of pvp!
@Nellyjai do the pally have shield spin around you or the hammer after you
Unfortunately not like Diablo 😂 but you can throw your shield and it bounces of multiple targets
Idk if i should go Staff/Dagger or Staff/Wand
Staff/dagger is dps and staff/wand is more supporty
Hi, you seem very knowledgeable and would love if you could help me with a decision between which class to play. I’m waiting for global release of game.
I’ve narrowed it down to either sns/gs, gs/dagger, staff/bow, dagger/bow or staff/dagger.
I mainly want to pvp but of course I will pve as I level up. Farm materials and weapons and gear so I need to also be strong for pve dps
Of the combos I listed for PVE dps which one is best?
Next question is in terms of 1v1 3v3 and if I want to try the bigger guild battles.
Of the weapon combos I listed. Which do you think is better to 1v1 someone. Or in group scenario or more. Which combo can kill fast and stay alive well.
I read that range is not as strong as melee but I seen some clips where range really does very good against people kills fast and seems to stay alive well.
How would range compare to the melee gs builds if the range builds came into 1v1 or 3v3 etc against melee.
Which of these weapon combos is easier to learn? Which has higher potential. And which is probably easier to go kill someone fast and pvp and pve idk..
Any advise please. Also which armor would I need and any info please. I seen tier lists and I narrowed down between those melee and range combos I mentioned. I rlly like idea of the staff and range etc. but I don’t Wana die fast and be squishy I want to be strong high damage
Thank you for stopping by. If you're interested in understand what is best in pvp check out my tier list video.
Now to answer the questions SnS/GS, GS/Dagger are your melee choices, and Staff/Bow , Bow/Dagger, and Staff/dagger are your ranged.
For PvE (Defined at farming and dungeons), SnS/GS is top tier in PvE, there is no one that will dispute your effectiveness as a tank in dungeons. The rest are decent but if I had to put a ranking oh what i'd take into my party for high end PvE it'll be , Staff/Bow, Bow/Dagger , Staff/Dagger, GS/dagger.
In terms of 1v1 and 3v3, anything with GS is normally meta (Or competitive), so SnS/GS and GS/Daggers are god tier in those regards, with SnS/GS leading on this ranking. The Bow/Staff will struggle in both these scenarios as you'll just get jumped on my someone that uses GS and your just getting smacked in your face until you fall over or get saved. Bow or Staff/Dagger, or decent in these scenarios as you have dagger to escape.
Overall if you enjoy tanking (Because thats what you'd be doing as a SnS/anything), then I suggest SnS/GS, as that is not only easy to play and be impactful but also strong in almost all scenarios. If you're looking to just hit things from afar, i'd consider Bow/Dagger as its friendly for newer players and forgiving if you get caught.
With regards to armour and build. consider using questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder - there any many builds on there for all different types of weapons.
Hope this helps.
You must try the Staff SnS its a big different tanky at the same time it has damage
well cool okey nice builds. but for a first timer i stil have barely no idea what weapon i need to use. like the hybrid mage, what weapons? how many what
I got you bro. If you want to play a hybrid mage then it’s, either:
- staff / dagger - like a combat mage
- staff / bow - like a aoe long range mage
- staff / wand - healer mage
cant decide, bow/staff or bow/dagger.
You have time to decide, but you really can't go wrong with either.
I will be doing a tier list shortly so maybe that'll help but I rate bow/staff higher for pve, pvp(Large scale) content than bow/dagger.
Bow/Dagger for me in small-mid scale pvp is better experience.
@@Nellyjai my friend who has been playing for some time now, told me cross/dagger and I think that's what Ill play. Ill be mostly solo/small scale and arenas/bgs w/e it has. War will be out of my time play.
Xbow/dagger is super fun and flashy. You’ll defo have a blast playing it!
what class is not gear dependent or less?
I guess it would be the range dps classes, so bow/dagger or staff/dagger imo as you have stealth too to help you survive
@@Nellyjai thanks for reply!
Good video
Appreciate it buddy!
I'll be doing wand and bow for pve support and wand and dagger for sneaky pvp
Just be mindful that right at the start its hard get enough resources to be able to upgrade your weapons and skill on multiple weapons.
Over time that seems solid! Good luck and hope you enjoy the builds mate :)
Evasion tank is sword shield and dagger? :o That doesn't mean double dagger and sword and shield right? >< I just started out today
Either way is fine, however you should have shield in main hand as it gives you block chance.
Is great sword and staff not an option? I feel like that would make for a really good aoe dps.
Its not that its not an option, just one that is off meta. GS/Staff is like your battlemage, where you're tanky from the greatsword and you have spells from your staff.
@@Nellyjai oh okay. I'm very much an off meta player.
Im stuck on what to pick. Im new to mmod/rpg games, i don't do pvp i prefer pve but there is so many classes to pick from
Ooohh, in that case, might i recommend a different approach and recommend easy classes for beginners. If you like being the one at the front and protecting your team mates, I'd suggest the Sword&Shield With Greatsword (Traditional Tank), if you like to heal people and support them in battle the wand/bow (Priest), and if you like to do damage to things I suggest the bow/dagger (Hunter build).
@@Nellyjai thank you so much for the response. I might try out the traditional tank and the hunter build
@@sweet_psycho_ You can't go wrong with either, both super beginner friendly, impactful, needed in most parties and most importantly fun. Enjoy bud x
I definitely will. Thank you for the help
Will early access progress carry over ?
No, early access will be on their own server clusters until a later date in which you can transfer off the server, probably a month or so in. So if you’re play early access you’ve gotta stay on early access servers
@@Nellyjai so what would u recommend wait for the game to be released for everyone or play on early access server
@@aqwmashalo personally I’m going to play on the early access because I just can’t wait, but make my main character on the live servers. I just think the live servers are going to more populated and have more flexibility because you’re allowed to transfer to whatever server you want (even early access ones) but early access cannot transfer to live servers straight away.
Either way because transfer exists at one point you’ll have full freedom on any server. Just pick the servers your friends will play on 😉
What about the GS/ SnS build?
I'd consider that the bruiser build, having more GS skills than SnS skills. You lose the block from holding SnS in your main hand which is huge, but you get different mastery stats from holding your GS in your main hand. Small difference but more or less the same playstyle.
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I found staf&wand amazing for PvE solo.
It defo has alot of AOE to mob effectively. Also with the wand you can keep yourself healthy! Is that what you're going to be playing on launch?
@@Nellyjai yeah, I think so, but I'm a total noob and played only EU beta. Had 2 chars - S&W and Xbow&Dagger.. Can't say I struggled with Xbow+dagger but S&W is quite safe+quite a good damage. The downside is people expect you to be a healer even if you're more staf invested for dmg. My plan is to lvl with S&W and then switch to Staf&bow.. but not sure if it is a good strat
@@adhominem_ I actually think its better to level as Staff&Bow, if you're looking for effeciency. It is a pretty cool build and one owns in large scale pvp. You can't go wrong with either.
@@Nellyjai thanks for an advice! Large scale PvP is smth I'm looking forward in the endgame, but does it carry you through leveling? I loved wand for a self sustain. I do understand that prob I'll have to position myself better and I'll have more dps with S&Bow but does it have some form of self sustain or self peel? I'll take your advice anyways since I'm total noob
Don’t worry too much about leveling is quite easy and doable on basically all builds.
The bow has a few heals / heal over time spells to sustain you. Plus it has a few passives that help with defence, like shields from getting weakened and endurances stats that reduce crit hit on you. You have an escape with staff too so it’s not bad.
You’ll be fine with both. Go with your gut 🫡
So Bow/Greatsword is a no go ?
All builds and combo is viable, its just whether you want to be in the meta (relevant in comparison) builds. Play what your heart wants my friend
Nice vid just subbed. i really wanted to try Wa d and Dagger as it looked fun, but you didn't 12:28 seem to think.its good in pve
There is nothing stopping you from using Wand and Dagger in PvE, you will still be able to get through the content. The only problems is when challenge dungeons come out and you really want to be min maxing. At that point you could also have a 3rd secondary weapon, like the bow that you passively level for that scenario, which allows you to switch between the play styles.
Can we change our builds and skills for free ? I wanna try 2 3 build so is it ok to do that can we ?
Unfortunately you can’t swap skill level easily to another weapons skill. You can do this using premium currency, which you can farm as a free to play player but it’s long. The leveling process isn’t too long so many an alt angle if you want the builds straight away. But if your happy with grinding the other builds slowly then one character is fine
I'm playing crossbow/dagger. Massive burst dmg
It’s super fun in tier one gear
Combat mage would be staff & daggers?
In this guide yeah :)
@@Nellyjai thanks
@@emilior3266 Anytime mate :) Thanks for dropping by
maybe machine gun caster. whats Sword/shield + staff like?
SnS/Staff is like a tanky caster. Its not a meta build, but still decent.
I cant decide between crossbow/dagger and bow/dagger
@@dinokamil to help you with deciding between Bow/dagger vs xbow/dagger
Another perspective is that it’s a lot more “chilled” with bow/dagger as your staying at range sniping whereas xbow/dagger you have to be close, but i find this play style more rewarding and cool to see.
Both at the end of the day is fun for different reasons!
what nelly is saying is how mechanically skilled are you? xbow dagger has higher top end dps with more apm . bow dagger has lower top end dps and apm and more survivability in longer range and utility in counter stealth . Also i think xbow will continue to receive nerfs as it still seems to be melting tanks at high end in 2-3 seconds in pvp.
Id say xbow/daggers. You can use offhand chance bonuses to apply on both weapons. Bow won't be really good for distance since you become close combat as soon as you use your daggers so... you get good speed/evasion abilities with xbow to fit a assassin playstyle
I prefer bow and staff it was fun in beta
With the skill specialisations you gonna have even more fun now :D
What about Staff/Greatsword
Its a decent build, you're like a battlemage, you got the tankiness and movement of the greatsword, and the damage and aoe of the staff. Its off meta, but still viable.
Really cant decide beetween Staff/dagger or Longbow/Staff I do lot of pvp and some pve normally in mmorpg i always play caster ( mage dps )
Both are pretty welcomed builds in PvP.
Large scale will favour the Longbow/staff as your literally dumpstering on clumps of enemies with big flashy aoe spells. In small skirmishes you'll feel alot more vunerable. As there is less distractions from lower number of people, you generally stick out more.
With Staff/dagger, its definitely alot more "out player" potential when you're zipping between positions using stealth to pick off people with instant casts like ice lance barriages. Theres still some aoe but nothing like the Bow/Staff. Also if you like arena, this class is pretty good too!
What you can do is take Staff/bow as your main, and if its not working for you, take a dagger when you're in those smaller skirmishes. Either way both super fun don't sweat it too much buddy.
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