The PC gaming lie will be exposed for all to see in the coming weeks. We let them lie for years because they never mattered......they still dont but now they are begging us to join them. Lets see WHAT BS theg left out of the conversation
PC gamers are more corporate shills, we support 1 corpo, Sony, they support who builds the GPU, CPU, motherboard, cooling, ram, case, that's like multiple companies, bunch of hypocrites
PC Gaming is also the sunk cost fallacy, spend thousands on a rig for very little advantage over consoles, they always use the same gotcha cards too- the free online card? maybe if your mum pays the broadband bill lol so that’s out, better visuals card, yet most don't even have 4k and hdr so no, better performance card? Nope this is almost never the case, they never mention the negatives etc then they get upset because they were sold the lie and double down on it rather than admit they are wrong. The PS5 pro isn't for me but clearly the PC crowd feel threatened by it because they are fanboys for PC. Also they love the drama more than the games, they love to complain about helldivers psn accounts and games running bad on PC, its cult of people who love to rage over nothing and jump on hate bandwagons, I could go on all day about these frauds, love the videos thrash, keep banging them out.
@@sonnytomato I have zero interest in skyrim with thomas the tank engine dragons, no I don't care about mods and some games on console actually use keyboard and mouse now at least for xbox so you would need to find the list of games that work.
Because about 85% of them have severely underpowered PCs which barely match a Playstation 4 in power. Most have PCs that are only on the level of a Playstation 3. It's why most of them keep screaming about supporting low powered indie games. Their PCs can't play current gen AAA games. How do I know all of this? My current gen gaming devices are a PC, a Playstation 5 and a Switch. My PC is considered "mid-range" (it has a RTX 2060 with 16 GB of ram and a nice CPU) and it's fully capable of running Xbox Series X console exclusives like Starfield in an acceptable way. Despite my PC being mid-range, it outperforms about 85% of everybody else's PC. I know this because I go on several different sites which compare my PC to others when they are trying to figure out if their PC can play a game and all of them say that my mid-range PC outperforms about 85% of everyone else. The truth is... PC gamers with high end PCs are pretty rare. Even people like me who have mid-range PCs make up the minority compared to all the PC gamers with lower end PCs which are barely at the level of a Playstation 4 and most don't have anything better than something that is at the level of a Playstation 3. That makes me wonder... If most of them are building those "Frankenstein used parts" budget PCs (which is a HORRIBLE idea for several reasons. So many problems will start to pop up in the long run if you build a low budget PC from used parts that are "Frankensteined" together). The truth is... A lot of them are jealous and want to take their anger out on console players. Anyway, I use my Playstation 5 to play Playstation 5 exclusives (all on PHYSICAL discs) like Stellar Blade, Rise of the Ronin, Astro Bot, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, R-type Final 3, and other games, and like playing multi-plats like Robocop Rogue City and several others on PS5 and PSVR2 games that have PHYSICAL copies like Star Wars: Tales from Galaxy's Edge: Enchanced Edition, Vertigo 2, and SEVERAL others (I own 21 PSVR2 physical games). The only digital PSVR2 games I own are the PSVR2 exclusives like Horizon Call of the Mountain, Dark Pictures: Switchback and Synapse. Also... My Switch gets used for Nintendo exclusives like Super Mario Wonder, Metroid Dread, etc. Finally... My PC gets primarily used for "Adult games" (games that will NEVER appear on console since the ESRB would never allow it since they are way above a rated M) and the Xbox Series console exclusives like Starfield, the NEW Forza Motorsport, etc, and VR games that aren't on PSVR2 like Half Life Alyx and "adult only" VR games that will never be allowed on consoles.
That PC for $777 doesn’t actually match the PS5 Pro, not even close. If you want to build a PC to equal or outperform the PS5 Pro, this is what you’re actually going to need: You’re going to need an RTX 4070 GPU, which is a $550 (plus tax) card alone, give or take. You can’t go with any AMD card currently on the market, because they don’t have a PSSR equivalent yet, i.e. hardware-based AI upscaling, similar to DLSS. Therefore you would have to go with an Nvidia GPU, and the RTX 4070 is the closest all-round card, in both rasterisation and ray-tracing, along with VRAM. You’re then going to need an AMD Ryzen 3700X CPU, which is another $170 (plus tax), give or take. The CPU he showed only has 6 Cores, not 8 Cores like all the current generation consoles, so it’s actually weaker than the CPU in the Xbox Series S. That’s already more expensive than the $700 (plus tax) PS5 Pro, in just those two components. You’re then also going to need: A motherboard with at least 18 GB/s of throughput, which is another $150 (plus tax), give or take. A 2TB 700 GB/s MVME M.2 SSD, which is another $170 (plus tax), give or take. That is what you are going to need, if you want to EQUAL or OUTPERFORM the PS5 Pro performance wise. You then still need to buy: A case A power supply The fans, wires, and RGB etc. A decent gaming mouse. A keyboard A copy of Windows That’s assuming you’re going to use it with your existing TV, otherwise you’d also need to buy a 4K 120 Hz monitor as well; and let’s be honest, most people are going to want a monitor with a gaming PC. Plus that’s also assuming that you know how to build a gaming PC yourself, which the vast majority of people don’t, therefore you would also need to pay somebody to build it for you, or you’d have to buy a pre-built PC, which would likely cost you significantly more. If you genuinely want to build a PS5 Pro equivalent PC, it’s going to cost you around $1300-$1500, and over $2000 if you also add a monitor, and that’s if you build it yourself. I really can’t stand the amount of dishonesty we see in the gaming community, especially from content creators, because they’re the people who’re supposed to be honest, because they actually have audiences that trusts them.
@bladebk5537 That isn't the point, a gamer isn't buying a PC to do anything other than game. Only a fraud would be talking building a PC to match a console. You either buy the best or stay out of comments sections with budget build PC peasant nonsense.
Let's be real, the portion of PC gamers upset about the PS5 Pro are only mad because they paid a premium to have the technological advantage and a console mid gen refresh is forcing them to spend more than they wanted to stay at the front of the pack. If they truly cared about gaming then they would be excited anytime consoles advance because PCs benefit from all advancements on the consoles.
....are they upset? Everyone Ive seen is making fun of the price. Hell I've talked to Playstation people looking at that price and saying "I might as well just go PC at this point."
Upset about what? The PS5 has the equivalent of a low end zen2 cpu. It doesn't matter that they put a bigger gpu in the Pro, it will still struggle with a lot of games. All you will get from that console is slightly better graphics in games that already run well in the base ps5.
@@KlR0V these dudes wont get it lmfao they love getting scammed they gone buy the ps5 pro knowing they already have their ps5 and get a small upgrade 😭 for a big price.
@@smwfreak1647 yeah, they just fall for the marketing every single time. We're a little over 3 years into the generation that promised 4k/60fps and the console is already struggling HARD with some of the latest titles, specially those made in UE5. Now they're about to fall for the 4k/60 lie yet again, but this time is even worse because they already know what to expect.
Exactly. Theres no need to spend over thousands of dollars. Upgrading to a gaming PC presents diminishing returns with the PS5 pro and PS6 giving you a much cheaper option for similar graphical fidelity with the help of AI. You'll have to spend at least 3000.$ for a similar experience as the PS5 pro, and you still have to deal with hardware failure when dealing with the factory lottery.
@@Luke973T I didn't say that and I have a 4090 but no pc exclusives to fully take advantage of that. Also I payed 2.5k euro for the gpu alone only in Europe pc is definitely not cheap and really worth such prices.
No BS. That POOR bastard, he’s like the EXACT MENTAL IMAGE I think most people have of PC players when said people end up finding themselves in an argument with one of these “PC elitist” dorks.
can do the same on a pc, just don't overclock it also can't upgrade consoles people must get over the fact that console and pcs are for people with different needs and tastes, the rest is pure copium
@@A-ZoneG4ming Do you know the best part about playing the metaphor re-fantazio demo for PS5? That I didn’t experience performance hitches on parts of the demo. Smooth all around. I also didn’t experience any issues using remote play with the PlayStation Barebone controller, so I imagine PS portal is a similar experience. Not the same experience on PC and PC handhelds. Lots of people had issues. That’s the difference.
@@alexplummer6397 Not necessarily... but of course if you think its just about power, you are SORELY mistaken. You also have to include backwards compatibility, choice of device to play with (you don't think everyone on PC plays every game with a keyboard and mouse, do you?), mods to tweak the game or even make whole new ones out of it (I personally love total conversions for that last reason), or even just knowing there isn't a monthly or yearly bill to play online games. There is a LOT of reasons PC is actually better that have nothing to do with power of the machine, but everything to do with YOUR power over YOUR game.
Supplier/Manufacturer > Merchant/Reseller > Consumer I knew the reason it didn't sell out was because it's bottomless from the Supplier. Merchants sell out because they have a limited stock, always will and always have. Lots of people don't know this as evident by the comments made on the topic.
Something I don't see anyone talking about, but, without consoles, there would be NO PC gaming. Consoles were available to the public long before PC's were. Heck, Arcade games had better graphics than the first PC games. First console, available in the 1970's was a pong clone. Not playable on PC til 5+ years later Dude at 24:30 forgets, you can add more storage to the PS5 Pro too.... Another thing they forget in the "PS5 killer" PC's, the liquid metal for the CPU. PS5 has that, and, it IS considered the "best" thermal paste
ummm wrong? All a console has ever been was a specialized PC. Same with arcades. Before you get specialized you need to see something more general... so you kinda have that reversed.
@@MegabyteRedSector 🤣🤣🤣 No, i don't. the original consoles weren't computers, they were closer to a video playback device. With the PS2 and OG Xbox, they became more PC like., The dreamcast was definitely a low low end PC clone. I know this, because I have taken those old consoles apart. I started with a Pong clone.
@@jonathanwessner3456 LMAO yeah, you do.... 1st, you are wrong again. PS2 did NOT behave like a modern PC... Xbox did, having an OS and all. 2nd, if it has memory and a means to run code within said memory, its a computer. It may not be advanced (god knows PONG isnt) but was it not a coded program? I know games before it were (Spacewar I believe was your first video game... might have even been your first arcade, if not your first successful one), so yeah, these were written on COMPUTERS before specialized COMPUTERS came out to just run games.
@@MegabyteRedSector that would make every tv a computer then, as well as every printer and a few other electronic devices. Heck, your car is designed to run code these days. No, a device designed to run code is NOT a computer. It is a device designed to run code. Remember, the code was specific to the device too. It was embedded on a chip. It also does not change the FACT that home consoles for games predate home computers for anything by at least a decade. Also that they had better graphics than those early home computers. IBM started the Personal Computer craze in the late 70's.early 80's, and they didn't have games til the mid 80's. Oh, and pong wasn't exactly built on a computer. the eventual program might have been, but, someone modified an oscilloscope to allow them to bounce a single dot(pixel) around the screen
@@jonathanwessner3456 Well, it would mean most of those things have a specialized computer in them.... and they do. That's why your smart TV has apps. That's why printer companies can sell ink subscriptions that turn off the printer if you print more then is allowed. That's why your car can actually have bleeding apps in that dashboard screen (and before that mechanics could plug an actual full on PC into it to read off statuses of the various systems... a specialized computer was there to communicate it). And so what about code being specific to a single device? The day of the micro-computer was like that... did you think the same version of Micro basic worked between a TRS-80 or an Apple IIe? Cause they didn't. Each had its own version with own specific system commands to call on their specific hardware. Im also gonna shoot down your IBM started the personal computer argument right here... they didn't. They were late to the scene. That's why unlike EVERY OTHER MACHINE ON THE MARKET, they had to license the parts from other companies and put it together, starting a standard others could use (hence the IBM clones) and the ability of other computer makers to use the same version of DOS on those clones. They had to catch up to the likes of Commadore and Tandy. Not that your goalpost moving from computers to home computers matters much on this one.... Pong was beaten out by Spacewar (written in 1962 for the PDP-1). Oh and the oscilliscope game you are talking about? That is not Pong, that's Tennis for Two and it was programmed in a lab on an analog computer... that's right.. STILL a computer.. still code... for the FIRST video game ever written (1958), commercial or otherwise.
And to be honest KTG, he is completely BSing on the 6800 is equal to the PS5 Pro. Richard from Digital Foundry admitted that it's comparable to a 4070. That's like...a MAJOR difference. In performance and in price...
Vicky out here crying about Sweet Baby Inc & Woke sh@t in video games but defends, deflects and moves the goalposts when it pertains to Xbox's South of Midnight, Fable, Contraband & Indiana Jones. Xbox Fangirls love them their double standards, good thing Xbox will be a thing of the past by 2027, hopefully sooner.
He hasn't been destroying anything. If your loyal to a brand there is something wrong with you, then again most people who use emojis have mental issues.
I’m console only the only PC I got is the laptop my work gave me to work from home. In addition to that $777 I’d need a monitor, mouse and keyboard not to mention a copy of windows and a space to put it. Then there’s the big bit: GAMES I’d need to buy all my games again aaaand as I bought a PlayStation specifically I play PlayStation exclusives I’m not waiting a year - indefinitely for those games. So when Sony say “Hey you know that game you like that you can’t play anywhere else? We can give a better version if you buy the upgraded version of this box.” Yes sign me up!
Ps5 pro is going to be amazing. And it not selling out just means they made enough stock. Nobody knows how many actually sold and the console isn't really designed for mainstream like the base ps5. When it goes to best buy and alike it'll likely sell out there
Let's be honest consoles are pc's what people don't realize is the architecture of a console is specifically designed to play games. PC is able to play games but PCs were never specifically designed to play games. That's why consoles for the most part are more stabled. PC has too much other things running in the background.
Hey KingTrash I actually can "BUILD PCs" and have been since the year late 1999 all the way into the 2000s and I actually worked for some tech companies. Building a "PC" is useful for work purposes and doing school work and learning how to use certain software and video editing and web surfing however for "gaming" it's mainly useful for playing OLD games otherwise it's a money pit designed by PC platform elitists and corporate shills into wasting your time and money if you fall into the trap of "PC gaming" And it's worse since Steam was made cause you don't even own the games anymore... you need to log into the Steam servers just to be allowed to use the damn games you paid money for cause they've been promoting the digital download crap. Then you have the PC platform elitists who brag about modding games and hacking them... they never created the game and will never create a new game so all they do is promote PIRACY aka stealing games and changing them from buggy software release to retail. PC gaming used to be real in the late 90s and early 2000s until around 2008 when Crysis and Crysis Warhead were already out because piracy was rampant and Steam started dominated so people didn't own nothing they paid for plus your 3d cards became obsolete toasters fast. That is the problem with PC platform elitists, they are scammers, shills and crooks plus they've been having anti-Japanese sentiment since the 1990s when PC hobbyist created the Nintendo 64 emulator and later the PlayStation 1 emulator cause they fear Nintendo and Sony... meanwhile when Microsoft made Xbox there was never any Xbox emulators especially not even being hyped at all not even for Xbox 360 or first Xbox cause they biased.
@@bladebk5537Steam literally was that way from the jump, not sure you use head of you're to think much before posting. Which game did Playstation remove from users library that that bought and paid for?
@@evilformerlys4704 it’s not a game but a show(forgot the name),still steam did not do something like this, I have several games that are delisted but I can still play because I still have them in my library, I was pointing out that you do not own any game on PSN, Xbox or PC just a license to use.
@@bladebk5537 you know , when you die, your steam library will be erased. You can't change ownership. No idea how they will know, but, they will lock the account.
How is this still a fooooking question still after 20 yrs now!!!!??? By the time im done searching for all the frikking parts i dont wanna even game anymore!!!! FFS! COMPATIBILITY issues!!! Hardware and API and Drivers!!!! I dont need to constantly take it to a foooking garage to keep updating parts or drivers! NO PC nerds arent more smarter!!!! They just have more time and resources to kill!!! thats why they think they smart!!! I keep my PC, laptop separate! I game on a game/PLAY station and i keep my work on a WORK station!
Showing Alex in his natural habitat with defences down talking to his pc brethren 😂 the only way to get his honest opinion about pc gaming. I need more of this 🤣🤣
This just fear, and it’s how “pc” guys are reacting to it. I promise you that those “pc” guys screeching about the pro are those who fall under that 95% category that barely have a pc that matches the base ps5, so they feeling some insecurities and inadequacy seeing the pro come along and steamroll their “rigs”. At the same price point and some at even higher than the pro price lol.
gonna be honest.... people will upgrade their PC when they feel the need. The fact that a lot of people don't is a point on the AAA market not making anything worth buying.
@@aeolussvichi7680 who's screeching? all I'm hearing is people pointing and laughing at the price tag... hell the only one Ive heard anything remote to angry noises was a SONY guy talking about that price and claiming "this is what happens when Xbox wont compete" literally unable to blame Sony for they greed.
As someone who has a pc now, i still prefer my ps5 so ya PC is a mess, the games are usually badly optimized, alot of times the games run better on console, I use it mainly for older games or Xbox games I wanna try which isn't many
@@MegabyteRedSector AMD 5600x paired with an RX6650 on an x570 board with 6tb of mostly NVME storage. I have one sata SSD. then a gigabyte 144hz 1440p monitor. Logitech m07 mouse and a Razer keyboard. I turn off the upscalers. My PC probably wouldn't do 4k very well. Also, one problem with the whole upscaling idea...one of the Devs literally said the PS5 pro could run their game, natively, at 4k120, and 8k60. BEFORE they coded it to use PSSR.
@@jonathanwessner3456 ....yeah, no... dont believe them. They PROMISED 4K at 120 FPS at the beginning of the generation... what you got instead was an UPSCALE to get 4K at about 30....which is not native. The PS5 pro will likely have little difference to be quite honest... maybe closer to medium settings. As for your specs, pretty close to my own, and I believe that performance... Im running at 1080 myself and get a solid 60 without upscaling on anything so far. (just what my monitor handles so what I play to).
Don’t give those goofs like ohnoitsAlex and fritanga no damn break just because their lives are pathetic one losing this wife over g@y stuff on his phone and the other losing his girl to his brother 😂 F that. These fools be lying to damn much.
I find it funny when these PC defends recommending 6 core several generations older CPUs...."StIlLllL CapABLe"... Sure buddy...until you play new games with DX12 engine and realize your bottlenecking that GPU (in that example used "7700 XT") severely from running at its full potential... An issue i had with a amd RX 6700 XT, until i upgraded to latest ryzen 8 core 5800X CPU (at that time).
Most people that make 500 to 700 dollar gaming pc systems are mostly doing it for a school, church, or a community center where they are most likely going to just be loading more older retro games on it that don't require that much hdr or gig storage space and where the children and staff probably won't do too much stuff that usually overclocks PC systems. Those "Gaming PCs" are probably only good for downloading maybe one or two big storage spaced games and maybe smaller racing games and all that. And they'll most likely start showing their age and need to have suggestive upgrades in maybe 4 to 6 years tops with noticeable frame skips. I'm not trying to be mean. I'm just telling it as it is.
One of the funniest things these PC dudes say when making their PS5 Pro equivalent gaming PCs is “it’s still a very capable…” lol. That right there is admitting it’s not an equivalent PC build to a PS5 Pro. PS5 Pro is just showing how overpriced building a gaming PC is
I have pc and ps5 had my PS5 before i built my pc always been an PlayStation guy, built my first pc and was like ok. Toyal cost for everything like mouse keyboard and case power supply. Total was like 4k. Pc is a bit harder to play with, gotta do alot of research, when things mess up. PlayStation is plug and play. Dont care for the ps5 pro, again i had a 5 since almost day one. If i had to choose, ill pick PC for the simple fact thTa theres more games to play and explore that console will never have, but the console is just easier to handle, plug and play. Pc if you wanna tinker with games play all systems etc. console if you just want something that works no questions ask. Pc online gaming is free ps online gaming 10.59 a month.
Normal sensible take. And fact is consoles have been basically best budget PCs since last generation. They run on same chips and architectures. There is no way to get more bang for your buck than a console. They are compact, mass produced PCs.
As a PC Gamer with a 4090 GPU and Console Gamer, I preorder the PS5 Pro and the A.I. PSSR will be amazing, the problem is the PC Gamer Elitist they are in denial and not being honest, there is no way they can match the PS5 Pro price and that is what bothers them and something I don't get some PC Gamers don't even play on Consoles and they are complaining now that is weird.
These PC Gaming podcasters/youtubers/social media ambassadeezies like the way you call it, are one big disingenuous lot. I wish Sony didn't release games for this stupid gaming platform aka PC.
PC parts are used as well as differing vendors! just a decent keyboard and mouse will cost $100+ depending on the make and brand!! FFS! and how many flashing lights etc! Playstation sourced parts are all PREMIUM! Playstation sourced and guaranteed!
I have a jonsbo mod 3 PC case that cost me like $500 years ago when I was going to build a PC in my basement right now if I build a PC I'm going top tier custom liquid loops 4090 The only reason why I didn't do it already is because I game in my living room. My wife will fit if I have to put a big ass PC in the living room That's why I'm thinking about getting a ROG mini gaming PC and that comes with a 407O these PC guys are full of shit
Thrash i understand and respect what you are trying to do by making these vids, But cmon Dawg! You Cant Save these PC dudes no matter how hard you try..
@@MegabyteRedSector When yall are counting Title Screen Frames you are far too gone and don't try to tell me you don't cuz i seen pc port reviews. Yall spend more time tweaking the settings then you do playing the games 🤣
@@BlueBARv5 well... I could... cuase I don't do that. But then my setup is on a monitor that doesnt go about 60 so my total use of that is an early sign of "my card doesnt have even to work this hard... vsync is getting turned on"
@@MegabyteRedSector Listen To Me! You are Very Sick and you Don't and You Don't realize it, Just sell that POS you call a PC and get yourself a PS5 or Xbox SX and all those little headaches will go away and You will be a real gamer Finally..
Indeed bro, I from México and I can't purchase the pro yet, in Amazon (mx) is sold out, sure I can purchase the pro using a VPN and creating a USA account, but it will be more expensive just for the shipping so I ll be waiting till our convenience stores place the product correctly, but the pro will be selling well over the world.
My man wit the posters in his background was trying tho. He seem like a good guy but he definitely was flabbergasted hearing about that ps5 pro..its really just a buy what you like thing. If you don't like it it's fine but why you trying to convince other people to feel the same way. Quit pocket watching and be happy with your pc. And that other dude at the end. Austin whoever was D riding X box before this generation dropped and went silent when ps5 continued to beat x box series over and over in performance.
My thing is why are they surprised the pro is still there?? The ps4 pro wasn't a huge seller the ps5 is doing exactly the ps4 pro did... it's a piece of hardware that is for the enthusiast PlayStation fan.
Sony's been smart this time around. The PS4 Pro was a niche product, so it'll be the PS5 Pro. They may as well charge good money for it, rich people will buy the PS5 Pro, for everyone else there's the regular PS5.
@kaisersoymilk6912 I'm not rich, I started saving $50-$75 a month as soon as I heard the first rumors of a Playstation 5 Pro. I had $750 by the time pre-orders went up. Gamers that really want one will get one! But I get your point though 👍
A lot of this BS coming from PC players is this PROJECTION of a “superiority complex” when it’s really the OPPOSITE. It’s like SOMEONE thinking they’re inherently SMARTER than someone else who went and bought a Teddy bear just because the FORMER went and made theirs at “Build-a-Bear Workshop.”
I been checking in with my GameStop on a regular waiting and I ask him just to check the temperature the guy said people are calling all day everyday asking when pre orders go live
I got a 4060 in my PC in good but I also got a ps5. I won't get a pro unless my PS5 fails me. I'm to impatient to wait for new PlayStation games to hit PC
I know PC gamers that have a PS5 because they don't want to wait years to play PS5 games. IDK why some PC gamers are so bent out of shape about folks having a PS5 and PC 😆😂🤣
@@synisterv7703 I don’t get the build a pc near $700 crap. If you spend less than $3k on a new gaming pc, than you’re wasting your money. It’s as simple as that. You either go all in for the best 4k for 3rd party games or just don’t buy a pc. I was a PlayStation guy before pc but I go big when my old pc dies. Now I take advantage of PlayStation exclusives and the best 3rd party on pc and steam sales on older stuff.
@@thelocoraven ok, this is just wrong. I want to know who's been ripping you off if you need $3K for a PC. I've never in my life spent more then half that... and I was there in the 90s to see them at some of their most costly prices... period. THese days? $1K is enough and in fact usually my sweet spot.
@@MegabyteRedSector you can get a 4070 pc for like $1500 right now. But it’s going to age poorly. If you want to constantly upgrade you can spend less up front. I don’t play that game.
I love my pc and ps5 ,you have your points,it's a complicated matter.console is cost to performance ratio is unmatched dude,pc u can do more if you read forums and shit and have 3 applications that make your game better than console like reshade and Nvidia app or inspector...but the difference in visual or performance isn't a massive difference for the dollar u spend on your rig.tldr get both enjoy both and fuck Xbox.
Keep in mind that all these “PC versus PS5 Pro” comparisons are MOOT (and incredibly disingenuous) at this point, ANYWAY, because people are simply “jumping off the cliff” using the “numbers on spec sheets” to draw their comparisons (which we ALL should have already LEARNED A LESSON from all the GOOFBALLS that were jumping out the window to proclaim the Series X was going to “mudstomp” the PS5 BEFORE WE EVEN HAD A SINGLE PUBLIC DEMO RUNNING ON EITHER) and HAVE ZERO IDEA how the console’s going to PERFORM in real-world tests. TL; DR - I’m not the LEAST BIT concerned. Mark Cerny and his teams know what they’re doing (or at least-know what they’re doing MORE than the VAST MAJORITY of these “armchair hardware engineers” on the internet which is WHY they keep feeling the NEED to be so loud in videos like this because they’re so CONSISTENTLY EMBARRASSED) and the BASE PS5 is already punching WELL ABOVE its “weight class” (this is WITHOUT EVEN touching the fact that an overwhelming MAJORITY of these gaming media types over here in the West collectively all have Valve’s, NVIDIA’s, and Microsoft’s BALLS down their throats). I don’t have this innate “complex” where I NEED it to be “better” than a 4090 or the greatest thing on the market or whatever that all these crying weirdos are projecting. I just NEED it to be an UPGRADE from what I’m currently using.
I don't understand why pc weirdos care what condole gamers soend on their consoles. Console gamers don't try to tell oc gamers they are fools for spending $1500 on a single component: gpu.
"You can use PCs for other stuff." This argument is 15 years too old lol. We have supercomputers in our pocket to do anything PC can do. Tablets can do anything in comfortable way too. Smart TVs for f sake can do bunch of stuff like streaming and TH-cam. Get a gaming PC so you can stream Netflix on it and answer emails lmao
I know we can't do it anymore, but, the PS3 you could use to create a cluster supercomputer. It is a lot harder (and more expensive) to do that with PC's. Heck, the Dreamcast could be used to browse the web, and read emails and such.
What PCMR fails to comprehend is I don't need my PS5 to answer emails, do my taxes, edit my TH-cam, Twitch, TikTok, Instagram content, spreadsheets for my TH-cam/TikTok content, check stocks, etc. I got a PS5 to play PS5 games. Also, the ones who brags about having all games from all generations, they don't touch those games at all. They are so insecure and I'll never understand why console gamers bother them so much when we're content with how we game 😆😂🤣
@@synisterv7703 Ill brag about having games across the ages... and play them! I was streaming Catacombs 3D just a few weeks ago.... and there are not many iD FPS style games older then that. (I just haven't found a way to get a local copy of Hovertank 3D I'm ok with using, or I would play the absolute first one this way too)
PC gamers need to get this through their thick skull. The only graphic card on the market that’ll come close to match the PS5 Pro is a 4080 or a 4090. Nothing else., it has RDNA4 infrastructure with AI learning in the PS5 Pro PC doesn’t have that it’s not available for PC.
@@RUY2323 Plus the 4070 Super and 4070 Ti as well, but I get your point. The PS 5 Pro is around the RTX 4070 in both rasterisation and ray-tracing, plus it has a similar amount of VRAM.
@@ArkiSouls im referring to having ai upscaling features , RDNA4 tech etc. they will probably be present on the next year line up of PC amd GPUs (rx 8000 series)
@@ArkiSouls Um, sorry, but, some of the devs who have seen the pro in action would like to disagree. It was either F1 or GT7 that was running native 4k120, 8k60, BEFORE they updated the game to use the upscaling. The retail upgrade will run at upscaled (from 1440 I think they said) with raytracing
Thanks, I'll be sure to do another stream on one of your videos. If I knew you were watching, I would've invited you on to chat. Also, nice job proving Alex right. You played yourself.
This dude at the end of the video is EXACTLY what I imagine the type of people who follow Alex look like. 😂 Just sounded lowkey BUTTHURT like he was SEETHING UNDERNEATH the whole video.
The PC gaming lie will be exposed for all to see in the coming weeks.
We let them lie for years because they never mattered......they still dont but now they are begging us to join them. Lets see WHAT BS theg left out of the conversation
Shouldn't PC gaming speak for itself ? Begging so called peasants to join them is crazy 🤦🏾♂️😂 it must not be that great
PC gamers are more corporate shills, we support 1 corpo, Sony, they support who builds the GPU, CPU, motherboard, cooling, ram, case, that's like multiple companies, bunch of hypocrites
PC Gaming is also the sunk cost fallacy, spend thousands on a rig for very little advantage over consoles, they always use the same gotcha cards too- the free online card? maybe if your mum pays the broadband bill lol so that’s out, better visuals card, yet most don't even have 4k and hdr so no, better performance card? Nope this is almost never the case, they never mention the negatives etc then they get upset because they were sold the lie and double down on it rather than admit they are wrong. The PS5 pro isn't for me but clearly the PC crowd feel threatened by it because they are fanboys for PC. Also they love the drama more than the games, they love to complain about helldivers psn accounts and games running bad on PC, its cult of people who love to rage over nothing and jump on hate bandwagons, I could go on all day about these frauds, love the videos thrash, keep banging them out.
Can you play strategy games with mouse, and run mods for games on console. I play mostly mods.
@@sonnytomato I have zero interest in skyrim with thomas the tank engine dragons, no I don't care about mods and some games on console actually use keyboard and mouse now at least for xbox so you would need to find the list of games that work.
If pc gaming is so good, then why are these pc elitists act so insecure?
They’re too insecure to even give an honest answer. Will remain the pc paradox.
Because about 85% of them have severely underpowered PCs which barely match a Playstation 4 in power. Most have PCs that are only on the level of a Playstation 3. It's why most of them keep screaming about supporting low powered indie games. Their PCs can't play current gen AAA games. How do I know all of this? My current gen gaming devices are a PC, a Playstation 5 and a Switch. My PC is considered "mid-range" (it has a RTX 2060 with 16 GB of ram and a nice CPU) and it's fully capable of running Xbox Series X console exclusives like Starfield in an acceptable way. Despite my PC being mid-range, it outperforms about 85% of everybody else's PC. I know this because I go on several different sites which compare my PC to others when they are trying to figure out if their PC can play a game and all of them say that my mid-range PC outperforms about 85% of everyone else.
The truth is...
PC gamers with high end PCs are pretty rare. Even people like me who have mid-range PCs make up the minority compared to all the PC gamers with lower end PCs which are barely at the level of a Playstation 4 and most don't have anything better than something that is at the level of a Playstation 3.
That makes me wonder...
If most of them are building those "Frankenstein used parts" budget PCs (which is a HORRIBLE idea for several reasons. So many problems will start to pop up in the long run if you build a low budget PC from used parts that are "Frankensteined" together).
The truth is...
A lot of them are jealous and want to take their anger out on console players.
Anyway,
I use my Playstation 5 to play Playstation 5 exclusives (all on PHYSICAL discs) like Stellar Blade, Rise of the Ronin, Astro Bot, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, R-type Final 3, and other games, and like playing multi-plats like Robocop Rogue City and several others on PS5 and PSVR2 games that have PHYSICAL copies like Star Wars: Tales from Galaxy's Edge: Enchanced Edition, Vertigo 2, and SEVERAL others (I own 21 PSVR2 physical games). The only digital PSVR2 games I own are the PSVR2 exclusives like Horizon Call of the Mountain, Dark Pictures: Switchback and Synapse.
Also...
My Switch gets used for Nintendo exclusives like Super Mario Wonder, Metroid Dread, etc.
Finally...
My PC gets primarily used for "Adult games" (games that will NEVER appear on console since the ESRB would never allow it since they are way above a rated M) and the Xbox Series console exclusives like Starfield, the NEW Forza Motorsport, etc, and VR games that aren't on PSVR2 like Half Life Alyx and "adult only" VR games that will never be allowed on consoles.
Because, RTX 3080 are 700 usd, and RTX 4080 are 1200 usd. Now imagine the RTX 5080
sez u
PC gaming is great, people are just trying to educate the less fortunate.
That PC for $777 doesn’t actually match the PS5 Pro, not even close.
If you want to build a PC to equal or outperform the PS5 Pro, this is what you’re actually going to need:
You’re going to need an RTX 4070 GPU, which is a $550 (plus tax) card alone, give or take.
You can’t go with any AMD card currently on the market, because they don’t have a PSSR equivalent yet, i.e. hardware-based AI upscaling, similar to DLSS. Therefore you would have to go with an Nvidia GPU, and the RTX 4070 is the closest all-round card, in both rasterisation and ray-tracing, along with VRAM.
You’re then going to need an AMD Ryzen 3700X CPU, which is another $170 (plus tax), give or take.
The CPU he showed only has 6 Cores, not 8 Cores like all the current generation consoles, so it’s actually weaker than the CPU in the Xbox Series S.
That’s already more expensive than the $700 (plus tax) PS5 Pro, in just those two components.
You’re then also going to need:
A motherboard with at least 18 GB/s of throughput, which is another $150 (plus tax), give or take.
A 2TB 700 GB/s MVME M.2 SSD, which is another $170 (plus tax), give or take.
That is what you are going to need, if you want to EQUAL or OUTPERFORM the PS5 Pro performance wise.
You then still need to buy:
A case
A power supply
The fans, wires, and RGB etc.
A decent gaming mouse.
A keyboard
A copy of Windows
That’s assuming you’re going to use it with your existing TV, otherwise you’d also need to buy a 4K 120 Hz monitor as well; and let’s be honest, most people are going to want a monitor with a gaming PC.
Plus that’s also assuming that you know how to build a gaming PC yourself, which the vast majority of people don’t, therefore you would also need to pay somebody to build it for you, or you’d have to buy a pre-built PC, which would likely cost you significantly more.
If you genuinely want to build a PS5 Pro equivalent PC, it’s going to cost you around $1300-$1500, and over $2000 if you also add a monitor, and that’s if you build it yourself.
I really can’t stand the amount of dishonesty we see in the gaming community, especially from content creators, because they’re the people who’re supposed to be honest, because they actually have audiences that trusts them.
@@-Old-School-Gamer still you can do a lot more with a PC than just games, and you buy a PC because you want the best not the average experience.
@@bladebk5537 that’s not the conversation bro, the conversations about price to performance, not features.
@bladebk5537 That isn't the point, a gamer isn't buying a PC to do anything other than game. Only a fraud would be talking building a PC to match a console. You either buy the best or stay out of comments sections with budget build PC peasant nonsense.
@@evilformerlys4704 think you replied to the wrong person there bud
@@-Old-School-Gamer well if you don’t care about compromising you get a console I guess
"Look mom, it works" lmao 😂
Lol
Let's be real, the portion of PC gamers upset about the PS5 Pro are only mad because they paid a premium to have the technological advantage and a console mid gen refresh is forcing them to spend more than they wanted to stay at the front of the pack. If they truly cared about gaming then they would be excited anytime consoles advance because PCs benefit from all advancements on the consoles.
Facts
....are they upset? Everyone Ive seen is making fun of the price. Hell I've talked to Playstation people looking at that price and saying "I might as well just go PC at this point."
Upset about what? The PS5 has the equivalent of a low end zen2 cpu. It doesn't matter that they put a bigger gpu in the Pro, it will still struggle with a lot of games.
All you will get from that console is slightly better graphics in games that already run well in the base ps5.
@@KlR0V these dudes wont get it lmfao
they love getting scammed they gone buy the ps5 pro knowing they already have their ps5
and get a small upgrade 😭 for a big price.
@@smwfreak1647 yeah, they just fall for the marketing every single time. We're a little over 3 years into the generation that promised 4k/60fps and the console is already struggling HARD with some of the latest titles, specially those made in UE5. Now they're about to fall for the 4k/60 lie yet again, but this time is even worse because they already know what to expect.
PC clowns just feel threatened that a 700 bucks machine now can do AI upscaling and have quality modes that you see on nvidia 4090.
True and now they all trembling😂
Drama Queen PeeCee MasterFlop like usual😂
lmfao. good one
The pro absolutely won't be on the level of a 4090. Let's not get crazy
Exactly. Theres no need to spend over thousands of dollars. Upgrading to a gaming PC presents diminishing returns with the PS5 pro and PS6 giving you a much cheaper option for similar graphical fidelity with the help of AI. You'll have to spend at least 3000.$ for a similar experience as the PS5 pro, and you still have to deal with hardware failure when dealing with the factory lottery.
@@Luke973T I didn't say that and I have a 4090 but no pc exclusives to fully take advantage of that. Also I payed 2.5k euro for the gpu alone only in Europe pc is definitely not cheap and really worth such prices.
The dude with the gaming posters on his wall is how i imagine all pc gamers to look like....🤣
Did you see where he plucked something from his mustache/pube-sweeper then tasted it… *Thrash outraged hushed tone* I can't with the pc ogres
No BS.
That POOR bastard, he’s like the EXACT MENTAL IMAGE I think most people have of PC players when said people end up finding themselves in an argument with one of these “PC elitist” dorks.
Nah, I just like decorating my wall. It's pretty boring without them.
when the wife is sleep, the playstation will beep
A gamers poem
My ex would wake out of a dead sleep from that beep just to break my balls. Nothing else in the world would wake her... but that beep.
You can turn the beep off now 🤫😂
@@JROCC205yeah? Maybe they want to keep it on
You know.
a ps5 pro won't be overclock. Meaning the deteriorating rate will be low . So even a used ps5 pro will retain its value far longer .
Facts.
can do the same on a pc, just don't overclock it
also can't upgrade consoles
people must get over the fact that console and pcs are for people with different needs and tastes, the rest is pure copium
Console will forever be the superior gaming platform for the working man
??? lol. PC is the best machine known to man for work
@@A-ZoneG4mingthose PCs are underpowered, let’s be honest
@@A-ZoneG4ming Do you know the best part about playing the metaphor re-fantazio demo for PS5? That I didn’t experience performance hitches on parts of the demo. Smooth all around.
I also didn’t experience any issues using remote play with the PlayStation Barebone controller, so I imagine PS portal is a similar experience. Not the same experience on PC and PC handhelds. Lots of people had issues. That’s the difference.
@@alexplummer6397 Not necessarily... but of course if you think its just about power, you are SORELY mistaken. You also have to include backwards compatibility, choice of device to play with (you don't think everyone on PC plays every game with a keyboard and mouse, do you?), mods to tweak the game or even make whole new ones out of it (I personally love total conversions for that last reason), or even just knowing there isn't a monthly or yearly bill to play online games.
There is a LOT of reasons PC is actually better that have nothing to do with power of the machine, but everything to do with YOUR power over YOUR game.
@@A-ZoneG4ming he said the working man , you can draw your conclusions from that.
Dee Batch is singing the praises of the Pro. And he’s definitely a big PC guy 💯💯
Supplier/Manufacturer > Merchant/Reseller > Consumer
I knew the reason it didn't sell out was because it's bottomless from the Supplier. Merchants sell out because they have a limited stock, always will and always have. Lots of people don't know this as evident by the comments made on the topic.
Faxxxxx
Something I don't see anyone talking about, but, without consoles, there would be NO PC gaming. Consoles were available to the public long before PC's were. Heck, Arcade games had better graphics than the first PC games. First console, available in the 1970's was a pong clone. Not playable on PC til 5+ years later
Dude at 24:30 forgets, you can add more storage to the PS5 Pro too....
Another thing they forget in the "PS5 killer" PC's, the liquid metal for the CPU. PS5 has that, and, it IS considered the "best" thermal paste
ummm wrong? All a console has ever been was a specialized PC. Same with arcades. Before you get specialized you need to see something more general... so you kinda have that reversed.
@@MegabyteRedSector 🤣🤣🤣 No, i don't. the original consoles weren't computers, they were closer to a video playback device. With the PS2 and OG Xbox, they became more PC like., The dreamcast was definitely a low low end PC clone. I know this, because I have taken those old consoles apart. I started with a Pong clone.
@@jonathanwessner3456 LMAO yeah, you do....
1st, you are wrong again. PS2 did NOT behave like a modern PC... Xbox did, having an OS and all.
2nd, if it has memory and a means to run code within said memory, its a computer. It may not be advanced (god knows PONG isnt) but was it not a coded program? I know games before it were (Spacewar I believe was your first video game... might have even been your first arcade, if not your first successful one), so yeah, these were written on COMPUTERS before specialized COMPUTERS came out to just run games.
@@MegabyteRedSector that would make every tv a computer then, as well as every printer and a few other electronic devices. Heck, your car is designed to run code these days. No, a device designed to run code is NOT a computer. It is a device designed to run code. Remember, the code was specific to the device too. It was embedded on a chip.
It also does not change the FACT that home consoles for games predate home computers for anything by at least a decade. Also that they had better graphics than those early home computers. IBM started the Personal Computer craze in the late 70's.early 80's, and they didn't have games til the mid 80's. Oh, and pong wasn't exactly built on a computer. the eventual program might have been, but, someone modified an oscilloscope to allow them to bounce a single dot(pixel) around the screen
@@jonathanwessner3456 Well, it would mean most of those things have a specialized computer in them.... and they do. That's why your smart TV has apps. That's why printer companies can sell ink subscriptions that turn off the printer if you print more then is allowed. That's why your car can actually have bleeding apps in that dashboard screen (and before that mechanics could plug an actual full on PC into it to read off statuses of the various systems... a specialized computer was there to communicate it).
And so what about code being specific to a single device? The day of the micro-computer was like that... did you think the same version of Micro basic worked between a TRS-80 or an Apple IIe? Cause they didn't.
Each had its own version with own specific system commands to call on their specific hardware.
Im also gonna shoot down your IBM started the personal computer argument right here... they didn't. They were late to the scene. That's why unlike EVERY OTHER MACHINE ON THE MARKET, they had to license the parts from other companies and put it together, starting a standard others could use (hence the IBM clones) and the ability of other computer makers to use the same version of DOS on those clones. They had to catch up to the likes of Commadore and Tandy.
Not that your goalpost moving from computers to home computers matters much on this one.... Pong was beaten out by Spacewar (written in 1962 for the PDP-1). Oh and the oscilliscope game you are talking about? That is not Pong, that's Tennis for Two and it was programmed in a lab on an analog computer... that's right.. STILL a computer.. still code... for the FIRST video game ever written (1958), commercial or otherwise.
And to be honest KTG, he is completely BSing on the 6800 is equal to the PS5 Pro. Richard from Digital Foundry admitted that it's comparable to a 4070. That's like...a MAJOR difference. In performance and in price...
Buying or building a pc to match a console is insane. If my pc matches my console in fidelity and performance it's time to upgrade.
maybe, maybe not. I guess it depends on what you want to do. But that's the beauty of PC.... everything is your choice.
Vicky out here crying about Sweet Baby Inc & Woke sh@t in video games but defends, deflects and moves the goalposts when it pertains to Xbox's South of Midnight, Fable, Contraband & Indiana Jones.
Xbox Fangirls love them their double standards, good thing Xbox will be a thing of the past by 2027, hopefully sooner.
You’re wrong about one thing bud.
Vicky’s a dude.
Go easy on him. He hasn't been in a p diddy party drinking 40oz of baby oil in a minute 😂😂😂
i like pc builder hes the only one that aint a pretentious douche, just a guy that likes making pc's.
Exactly...this why I showed respect...he truly like pc
I consider going from PS5 to PS5 Pro is equivalent to PC guys upgrading to a new graphics card every 2 to three years. Nothing wrong with that.
Cept I can trade in my ps5 for a pro and take off half the price....and depending on the card you get it's much, much cheaper
Yeah but the difference is actually visble😊
...but do you have to? Cause I dont feel the need to upgrade my GPU...and my PC is 2 years old. And I didn't even start at the high end.
@@grobny_man visible my ass. its barely noticeable to the most trained eyes. you sound like a total moron
@@MegabyteRedSector nether do i, i still got mine RTX 3090 from miner.I cleaned it, put new thermal pads and liquid metal that i put is still good😊
Where in the heck did you find this creepy dude video? You're really exploring the bottom feeders of the internet.
That's like basically the bulk of the PC clown force, bottom feeders.
Lmao you’ve been on a roll destroying PeeCee gamers now that Xbox has become completely irrelevant. 😂
He hasn't been destroying anything. If your loyal to a brand there is something wrong with you, then again most people who use emojis have mental issues.
Since anyone can diagnose mental illness now, I'll say you're suffering from butt-hurtness. Seek help.
@@TT09B5you must use emojis a ton then.
He's a bot who doesn t even know what he's talking about lmao
@@bladebk5537self awareness isn’t your strong suit it seems.
I’m console only the only PC I got is the laptop my work gave me to work from home. In addition to that $777 I’d need a monitor, mouse and keyboard not to mention a copy of windows and a space to put it. Then there’s the big bit: GAMES I’d need to buy all my games again aaaand as I bought a PlayStation specifically I play PlayStation exclusives I’m not waiting a year - indefinitely for those games. So when Sony say “Hey you know that game you like that you can’t play anywhere else? We can give a better version if you buy the upgraded version of this box.” Yes sign me up!
That’s PC’s John Wayne Gacy bro!! 😳😳
He is certainly very sus.
He literally started talking about stabbing someone, then looked over his shoulder, like one of his victims were escaping.
@@DrewTheGamer 😭🤣🤣
Can't even wear socks while building it!!! 😅😅
Ps5 pro is going to be amazing. And it not selling out just means they made enough stock. Nobody knows how many actually sold and the console isn't really designed for mainstream like the base ps5. When it goes to best buy and alike it'll likely sell out there
Man that “pc” guys at the end there was STRUGGLING not to say the hard ER.
Man these sensitive ass “pc” guys are in a frenzy right now.
....is a hard er your first reflex? That speaks for you, you know... and not well
What up, Thrash!
Supppp
Let's be honest consoles are pc's what people don't realize is the architecture of a console is specifically designed to play games. PC is able to play games but PCs were never specifically designed to play games. That's why consoles for the most part are more stabled. PC has too much other things running in the background.
PC gamers are trying to bring over the casuals. These dudes telling them to build low end PC’s.
Hey KingTrash I actually can "BUILD PCs" and have been since the year late 1999 all the way into the 2000s and I actually worked for some tech companies.
Building a "PC" is useful for work purposes and doing school work and learning how to use certain software and video editing and web surfing however for "gaming" it's mainly useful for playing OLD games otherwise it's a money pit designed by PC platform elitists and corporate shills into wasting your time and money if you fall into the trap of "PC gaming"
And it's worse since Steam was made cause you don't even own the games anymore... you need to log into the Steam servers just to be allowed to use the damn games you paid money for cause they've been promoting the digital download crap.
Then you have the PC platform elitists who brag about modding games and hacking them... they never created the game and will never create a new game so all they do is promote PIRACY aka stealing games and changing them from buggy software release to retail.
PC gaming used to be real in the late 90s and early 2000s until around 2008 when Crysis and Crysis Warhead were already out because piracy was rampant and Steam started dominated so people didn't own nothing they paid for plus your 3d cards became obsolete toasters fast.
That is the problem with PC platform elitists, they are scammers, shills and crooks plus they've been having anti-Japanese sentiment since the 1990s when PC hobbyist created the Nintendo 64 emulator and later the PlayStation 1 emulator cause they fear Nintendo and Sony... meanwhile when Microsoft made Xbox there was never any Xbox emulators especially not even being hyped at all not even for Xbox 360 or first Xbox cause they biased.
How you gona trash Steam for not owning games when Sony literally can and did remove content that you paid for lmao
@@bladebk5537Steam literally was that way from the jump, not sure you use head of you're to think much before posting. Which game did Playstation remove from users library that that bought and paid for?
@@evilformerlys4704 it’s not a game but a show(forgot the name),still steam did not do something like this, I have several games that are delisted but I can still play because I still have them in my library, I was pointing out that you do not own any game on PSN, Xbox or PC just a license to use.
@@evilformerlys4704 also maybe YOU should
Start using that lil head before posting across all your replies you’re not making too much sense.
@@bladebk5537 you know , when you die, your steam library will be erased. You can't change ownership. No idea how they will know, but, they will lock the account.
How is this still a fooooking question still after 20 yrs now!!!!??? By the time im done searching for all the frikking parts i dont wanna even game anymore!!!! FFS!
COMPATIBILITY issues!!! Hardware and API and Drivers!!!! I dont need to constantly take it to a foooking garage to keep updating parts or drivers!
NO PC nerds arent more smarter!!!! They just have more time and resources to kill!!! thats why they think they smart!!!
I keep my PC, laptop separate! I game on a game/PLAY station and i keep my work on a WORK station!
Showing Alex in his natural habitat with defences down talking to his pc brethren 😂 the only way to get his honest opinion about pc gaming. I need more of this 🤣🤣
Can’t wait lol😂 it’s been Hilarious to witness the mental gymnastics of these fools 😂😂
Can't even make a proper sentence, uses emojis, calls other fools. Sums of the "don't question and just consume" types that is the console peasants.
@@TT09B5 if you don’t buy new parts every time they come out or even 2 yrs in you can’t be talking as if your not on peasant timing
@@TT09B5 spoken like a true PC Mutt
@@TT09B5wait you couldn't understand what the commenter said? Cause I did. Are you one of those smart dumb people that thrash was talking about 😂😂😂
Bro said you were going to give him an aneurysm then straight up said he’s never built a pc and he needs to step up his game 😹
This just fear, and it’s how “pc” guys are reacting to it.
I promise you that those “pc” guys screeching about the pro are those who fall under that 95% category that barely have a pc that matches the base ps5, so they feeling some insecurities and inadequacy seeing the pro come along and steamroll their “rigs”. At the same price point and some at even higher than the pro price lol.
gonna be honest.... people will upgrade their PC when they feel the need. The fact that a lot of people don't is a point on the AAA market not making anything worth buying.
@@MegabyteRedSector but why are those same people screeching about people wanting to upgrade to the pro lol?
It just screams of insecurity to me.
@@aeolussvichi7680 who's screeching? all I'm hearing is people pointing and laughing at the price tag... hell the only one Ive heard anything remote to angry noises was a SONY guy talking about that price and claiming "this is what happens when Xbox wont compete" literally unable to blame Sony for they greed.
Xbo😢is melting
As someone who has a pc now, i still prefer my ps5 so ya PC is a mess, the games are usually badly optimized, alot of times the games run better on console, I use it mainly for older games or Xbox games I wanna try which isn't many
I know I prefer HZD and HFW on my PS5. Already on my 3rd playthrough on both. I have a mid level PC, it can handle 1440p but not 4k.
@@jonathanwessner3456 Id love to know the specs, but Im betting if its mid level, it could if you upscaled it like a console does behind the scenes.
@@MegabyteRedSector AMD 5600x paired with an RX6650 on an x570 board with 6tb of mostly NVME storage. I have one sata SSD. then a gigabyte 144hz 1440p monitor. Logitech m07 mouse and a Razer keyboard.
I turn off the upscalers. My PC probably wouldn't do 4k very well.
Also, one problem with the whole upscaling idea...one of the Devs literally said the PS5 pro could run their game, natively, at 4k120, and 8k60. BEFORE they coded it to use PSSR.
@@jonathanwessner3456 ....yeah, no... dont believe them. They PROMISED 4K at 120 FPS at the beginning of the generation... what you got instead was an UPSCALE to get 4K at about 30....which is not native. The PS5 pro will likely have little difference to be quite honest... maybe closer to medium settings.
As for your specs, pretty close to my own, and I believe that performance... Im running at 1080 myself and get a solid 60 without upscaling on anything so far. (just what my monitor handles so what I play to).
Don’t give those goofs like ohnoitsAlex and fritanga no damn break just because their lives are pathetic one losing this wife over g@y stuff on his phone and the other losing his girl to his brother 😂 F that. These fools be lying to damn much.
KTG you did not bore us with Alex this time, but bored us with this effin PC assembly BS 🤣🤣🤣
Lmaooo
Alex even said DONT BUY SECOND HAND!!!! FFS!
The South Park guy pc guy in this video had mental health issues. He was getting very emotional and wanted to hurt you.
Crazy man....smdh
That fat south park character turned real came REAL close to cancelling himself lmao
lmao thinking about all the Xbox refugees trying to put together a PC properly
Or they’ll just buy a cheap prebuilt or Walmart pc and claim master race 😹
I find it funny when these PC defends recommending 6 core several generations older CPUs...."StIlLllL CapABLe"... Sure buddy...until you play new games with DX12 engine and realize your bottlenecking that GPU (in that example used "7700 XT") severely from running at its full potential...
An issue i had with a amd RX 6700 XT, until i upgraded to latest ryzen 8 core 5800X CPU (at that time).
Whats Crazy is Alex will keep picking on the sensitive Reforge gaming who dont want smoke with anyone, But will ignore King Thrash..🤣
He knows who not to fuck with bro. I've debated him and made him feel stupid before
PC gamers are so fake, most PC games would run upto 20% faster on Linux verses Windows / Direct X.
Most people that make 500 to 700 dollar gaming pc systems are mostly doing it for a school, church, or a community center where they are most likely going to just be loading more older retro games on it that don't require that much hdr or gig storage space and where the children and staff probably won't do too much stuff that usually overclocks PC systems. Those "Gaming PCs" are probably only good for downloading maybe one or two big storage spaced games and maybe smaller racing games and all that. And they'll most likely start showing their age and need to have suggestive upgrades in maybe 4 to 6 years tops with noticeable frame skips. I'm not trying to be mean. I'm just telling it as it is.
One of the funniest things these PC dudes say when making their PS5 Pro equivalent gaming PCs is “it’s still a very capable…” lol. That right there is admitting it’s not an equivalent PC build to a PS5 Pro. PS5 Pro is just showing how overpriced building a gaming PC is
I have pc and ps5 had my PS5 before i built my pc always been an PlayStation guy, built my first pc and was like ok. Toyal cost for everything like mouse keyboard and case power supply. Total was like 4k. Pc is a bit harder to play with, gotta do alot of research, when things mess up. PlayStation is plug and play. Dont care for the ps5 pro, again i had a 5 since almost day one. If i had to choose, ill pick PC for the simple fact thTa theres more games to play and explore that console will never have, but the console is just easier to handle, plug and play. Pc if you wanna tinker with games play all systems etc. console if you just want something that works no questions ask. Pc online gaming is free ps online gaming 10.59 a month.
Normal sensible take. And fact is consoles have been basically best budget PCs since last generation. They run on same chips and architectures. There is no way to get more bang for your buck than a console. They are compact, mass produced PCs.
As a PC Gamer with a 4090 GPU and Console Gamer, I preorder the PS5 Pro and the A.I. PSSR will be amazing, the problem is the PC Gamer Elitist they are in denial and not being honest, there is no way they can match the PS5 Pro price and that is what bothers them and something I don't get some PC Gamers don't even play on Consoles and they are complaining now that is weird.
Here just to show some love and support big homie
These PC Gaming podcasters/youtubers/social media ambassadeezies like the way you call it, are one big disingenuous lot. I wish Sony didn't release games for this stupid gaming platform aka PC.
PC parts are used as well as differing vendors! just a decent keyboard and mouse will cost $100+ depending on the make and brand!! FFS! and how many flashing lights etc!
Playstation sourced parts are all PREMIUM! Playstation sourced and guaranteed!
Kidding thrash,what up..
Supppp
After all that, spend $800 and they still can’t play GOW Ragnarok or Grand Turismo 7 😂😂
I have a jonsbo mod 3 PC case that cost me like $500 years ago when I was going to build a PC in my basement right now if I build a PC I'm going top tier custom liquid loops 4090 The only reason why I didn't do it already is because I game in my living room. My wife will fit if I have to put a big ass PC in the living room That's why I'm thinking about getting a ROG mini gaming PC and that comes with a 407O these PC guys are full of shit
Ps5 pro will be readily available this holiday and no one is interested lmao
How does this guy get out of breath from typing 💀
Lmaoooooo😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Pc gays these days acting so scary around PS5 Pro, but hey why? pc gays all of them having 4090 right? Lol.
does that pc build come with a vertical stand tho
You need to buy a vertical stand for the GPU, otherwise it's gonna bend under its own weight😅
@@kaisersoymilk6912 it won't switch on without a disc drive + vertical stand + ps plus + all the patched games THIS THING IS BASICALLY $2k 🤣
@@kaisersoymilk6912 depends on the card you buy.... but a lot of the higher end ones, this true... (midrange? not so much)
Thrash i understand and respect what you are trying to do by making these vids, But cmon Dawg! You Cant Save these PC dudes no matter how hard you try..
who says PC gamers need saving?
@@MegabyteRedSector When yall are counting Title Screen Frames you are far too gone and don't try to tell me you don't cuz i seen pc port reviews. Yall spend more time tweaking the settings then you do playing the games 🤣
@@BlueBARv5 well... I could... cuase I don't do that. But then my setup is on a monitor that doesnt go about 60 so my total use of that is an early sign of "my card doesnt have even to work this hard... vsync is getting turned on"
@@MegabyteRedSector Listen To Me! You are Very Sick and you Don't and You Don't realize it, Just sell that POS you call a PC and get yourself a PS5 or Xbox SX and all those little headaches will go away and You will be a real gamer Finally..
OMG!! I just PUT together a bunch of pc parts together. I am such a genius. Bow down console ppl.😂
Indeed bro, I from México and I can't purchase the pro yet, in Amazon (mx) is sold out, sure I can purchase the pro using a VPN and creating a USA account, but it will be more expensive just for the shipping so I ll be waiting till our convenience stores place the product correctly, but the pro will be selling well over the world.
Don't apologize to them mother..........
Mark Cerny playing chess, checkmate. knowing they have the better product (Pro) then what Pc players have for an affordable price.
34:20 oh no, alex is a huge hypocrite
My man wit the posters in his background was trying tho. He seem like a good guy but he definitely was flabbergasted hearing about that ps5 pro..its really just a buy what you like thing. If you don't like it it's fine but why you trying to convince other people to feel the same way. Quit pocket watching and be happy with your pc. And that other dude at the end. Austin whoever was D riding X box before this generation dropped and went silent when ps5 continued to beat x box series over and over in performance.
PlayStation has enemies hating from all corners
My thing is why are they surprised the pro is still there?? The ps4 pro wasn't a huge seller the ps5 is doing exactly the ps4 pro did... it's a piece of hardware that is for the enthusiast PlayStation fan.
Man it's just like Playstation 1st party game sales; They consider anything short of 30,000,000 copies sold in the first week abysmal, lol
@@JohnBrown-lk9ml Facts. They hate PlayStation so much all logic and reason is completely gone.
They have Playstation phobia, nothing but irrational hate and fear!
Sony's been smart this time around. The PS4 Pro was a niche product, so it'll be the PS5 Pro. They may as well charge good money for it, rich people will buy the PS5 Pro, for everyone else there's the regular PS5.
@kaisersoymilk6912 I'm not rich, I started saving $50-$75 a month as soon as I heard the first rumors of a Playstation 5 Pro. I had $750 by the time pre-orders went up. Gamers that really want one will get one!
But I get your point though 👍
A lot of this BS coming from PC players is this PROJECTION of a “superiority complex” when it’s really the OPPOSITE.
It’s like SOMEONE thinking they’re inherently SMARTER than someone else who went and bought a Teddy bear just because the FORMER went and made theirs at “Build-a-Bear Workshop.”
I been checking in with my GameStop on a regular waiting and I ask him just to check the temperature the guy said people are calling all day everyday asking when pre orders go live
I was also lost when he started to speak Himalayan😂
Lmaoooooo
Thrash did you get a ps5 pro pre order in yet? Are you getting disc drive?
Yupp
I got a 4060 in my PC in good but I also got a ps5. I won't get a pro unless my PS5 fails me. I'm to impatient to wait for new PlayStation games to hit PC
Best way to game, xbox obsolete if got PC already. Can game there mid games from gamepass ( and PS5/Pro for there first hand exclusives.
@@NateT092 exactly Sony and Nintendo while Xbox console is obsolete.
I’ve built pc’s, work in IT and have a 4090 build but I’m still a PlayStation first gamer cause I’m not a moron for where the best games are.
I know PC gamers that have a PS5 because they don't want to wait years to play PS5 games. IDK why some PC gamers are so bent out of shape about folks having a PS5 and PC 😆😂🤣
@@synisterv7703 I don’t get the build a pc near $700 crap. If you spend less than $3k on a new gaming pc, than you’re wasting your money. It’s as simple as that. You either go all in for the best 4k for 3rd party games or just don’t buy a pc.
I was a PlayStation guy before pc but I go big when my old pc dies. Now I take advantage of PlayStation exclusives and the best 3rd party on pc and steam sales on older stuff.
Facts
@@thelocoraven ok, this is just wrong. I want to know who's been ripping you off if you need $3K for a PC. I've never in my life spent more then half that... and I was there in the 90s to see them at some of their most costly prices... period. THese days? $1K is enough and in fact usually my sweet spot.
@@MegabyteRedSector you can get a 4070 pc for like $1500 right now. But it’s going to age poorly. If you want to constantly upgrade you can spend less up front. I don’t play that game.
I love my pc and ps5 ,you have your points,it's a complicated matter.console is cost to performance ratio is unmatched dude,pc u can do more if you read forums and shit and have 3 applications that make your game better than console like reshade and Nvidia app or inspector...but the difference in visual or performance isn't a massive difference for the dollar u spend on your rig.tldr get both enjoy both and fuck Xbox.
Im waiting to get the pro on release from BB. I hope I will be able to find one easily.
We have all heard of the Nintendo fanboy, PlayStation fanboy, XBOX fanboy & now the final boss of fanboys drumroll please … the Microsoft PC fanboy. 😂
Superb video, my nigga. Spot on. The only thing I will say you didn't consider about frames higher than 60fps is reduce latency/input lag.
It was.....it's one of the topics of part 2
Keep in mind that all these “PC versus PS5 Pro” comparisons are MOOT (and incredibly disingenuous) at this point, ANYWAY, because people are simply “jumping off the cliff” using the “numbers on spec sheets” to draw their comparisons (which we ALL should have already LEARNED A LESSON from all the GOOFBALLS that were jumping out the window to proclaim the Series X was going to “mudstomp” the PS5 BEFORE WE EVEN HAD A SINGLE PUBLIC DEMO RUNNING ON EITHER) and HAVE ZERO IDEA how the console’s going to PERFORM in real-world tests.
TL; DR - I’m not the LEAST BIT concerned. Mark Cerny and his teams know what they’re doing (or at least-know what they’re doing MORE than the VAST MAJORITY of these “armchair hardware engineers” on the internet which is WHY they keep feeling the NEED to be so loud in videos like this because they’re so CONSISTENTLY EMBARRASSED) and the BASE PS5 is already punching WELL ABOVE its “weight class” (this is WITHOUT EVEN touching the fact that an overwhelming MAJORITY of these gaming media types over here in the West collectively all have Valve’s, NVIDIA’s, and Microsoft’s BALLS down their throats).
I don’t have this innate “complex” where I NEED it to be “better” than a 4090 or the greatest thing on the market or whatever that all these crying weirdos are projecting. I just NEED it to be an UPGRADE from what I’m currently using.
What is this noise I'm hearing? Um, it's called the TRUTH and we can all tell it hurts. Southpark got him down to a Tee.
Lol facts
😂😂😂
Get em Thrash💪🏾💪🏾💯
FACTS ONLY!!!! That's all you need
I love consoles.
I don't understand why pc weirdos care what condole gamers soend on their consoles. Console gamers don't try to tell oc gamers they are fools for spending $1500 on a single component: gpu.
I don't think he likes my comment! Another great AND INFORMATIVE VIDEO KING THRASH!
Lmaooooooo facts he was low key hurt lol
"You can use PCs for other stuff." This argument is 15 years too old lol. We have supercomputers in our pocket to do anything PC can do. Tablets can do anything in comfortable way too. Smart TVs for f sake can do bunch of stuff like streaming and TH-cam. Get a gaming PC so you can stream Netflix on it and answer emails lmao
I know we can't do it anymore, but, the PS3 you could use to create a cluster supercomputer. It is a lot harder (and more expensive) to do that with PC's. Heck, the Dreamcast could be used to browse the web, and read emails and such.
What PCMR fails to comprehend is I don't need my PS5 to answer emails, do my taxes, edit my TH-cam, Twitch, TikTok, Instagram content, spreadsheets for my TH-cam/TikTok content, check stocks, etc. I got a PS5 to play PS5 games. Also, the ones who brags about having all games from all generations, they don't touch those games at all. They are so insecure and I'll never understand why console gamers bother them so much when we're content with how we game 😆😂🤣
@@synisterv7703 Ill brag about having games across the ages... and play them! I was streaming Catacombs 3D just a few weeks ago.... and there are not many iD FPS style games older then that. (I just haven't found a way to get a local copy of Hovertank 3D I'm ok with using, or I would play the absolute first one this way too)
can't mod though, good luck with that
@@GabrielVilanova-n3p IDGAF about mods, never have and never will.
PC gamers need to get this through their thick skull. The only graphic card on the market that’ll come close to match the PS5 Pro is a 4080 or a 4090. Nothing else., it has RDNA4 infrastructure with AI learning in the PS5 Pro PC doesn’t have that it’s not available for PC.
@@RUY2323 Plus the 4070 Super and 4070 Ti as well, but I get your point.
The PS 5 Pro is around the RTX 4070 in both rasterisation and ray-tracing, plus it has a similar amount of VRAM.
It probably will next year with RX 8000 series line up gpus, but with consoles/Sony getting it first. (Rightfully so, they set the market).
@@ArkiSouls im referring to having ai upscaling features , RDNA4 tech etc. they will probably be present on the next year line up of PC amd GPUs (rx 8000 series)
@@ArkiSouls Um, sorry, but, some of the devs who have seen the pro in action would like to disagree. It was either F1 or GT7 that was running native 4k120, 8k60, BEFORE they updated the game to use the upscaling. The retail upgrade will run at upscaled (from 1440 I think they said) with raytracing
@@NateT092 maybe not, PSSR is a Sony creation, not AMD. Someone explained it that way
Thanks, I'll be sure to do another stream on one of your videos. If I knew you were watching, I would've invited you on to chat.
Also, nice job proving Alex right. You played yourself.
You destroyed that PC lad. He is devastated. He's also got mental issues by the looks of it.
Just like back when we were young the Japanese are the best in the business
This dude at the end of the video is EXACTLY what I imagine the type of people who follow Alex look like. 😂
Just sounded lowkey BUTTHURT like he was SEETHING UNDERNEATH the whole video.
55:36 from there on you make me laugh so good my bro! :))))) Nice video, and never trust your wife!
“THERMAL PASTE!!! CAN I USE TOOTHPASTE!?!” 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
Pc boys: instead of trading your ps5 to get a brand new pro for less, get overpriced pc scraps 😂😂😂 they smoking gooood!
Damn good video Thrash. Tell those pc idiots what time it is.
Already am ready for ps5 pro it’s been years since I upgraded my to to the best Sony on 72 in from a 60 inch 😁
DWYD
You destroyed that PC lad. He is devastated.
Dowg iam drinking and watching this and i cant stop laughing.. Thank you king!
Holy F! where the hell do you dig up these PC dudes!!! Ive never heard of Alex yet now i frikking know his name and the southpark guy da fook!!!