Ren has Lyme Disease which was misdiagnosed for years causing physical and psychological problems. He's currently in Canada undergoing specialist treatment for it. Buckle up fella for your trip on Ren's rollercoaster. It's a wild ride
Great job again. Please try the trilogy of Jenny and screech (full). It has 3 parts and is about 13 min. This is where Ren really shows his Genre--Bard. Jenny then screech and then Violet in order and all in one take for full-on impact if you find some time. Cheers
Ren got super powers from a tick bite. His Lyme Disease went misdiagnosed for seven years. The doctors told him that his symptoms were psychosomatic, that it was his brain making his body sick, so Ren went to war with himself, inside his own head, but he just kept getting worse. With a full tank of meds that were meant to keep him sane and street drugs that he took just to numb the pain, he turned to his music to maintain his brain while his health and sanity began circling the drain. He finally got a proper diagnosis, but the damage had been done. Now he's in Canada, receiving stem cell therapy to try to repair some of the permanent nerve damage that he suffered.
He was signed by Sony when in his late teens and was dropped soon after when he got sick. According to his website, the pig mask is because he used to hallucinate seeing people in animal masks possibly due to his appreciation of Orwell.
As a Deaf man that awesomely chaotic Heavy Back beat bled right over his therapists voice almost completely drowning it out I saw that as a wonderful metaphor of how therapy and therapists were completely oblivious to his needs Part changer therapy was a stunningly good description you made, Excellent video
For the 'lore', here's a comment he posted on his community page before Sick Boi came out: "Years before I was diagnosed correctly with autoimmunity, Lyme disease, and brain damage I was misdiagnosed as bipolar and spent years bouncing back and forth between therapists and trialing different antidepressants all the while getting worse and worse With lots of things in life we expect to see fairly linear results rewarding the effort we put in. We put in the work, and are rewarded for our efforts. When you put in monumental levels of effort doing self work, stress reduction techniques, CBT, self affirmations, following strict medication regimes with pills with a long list of side effects, and end up worse its a really defeating and confusing place to be because it contradicts everything we've been taught. It shakes your trust in the medical system. I wanted to write something which captured the frustration of this journey. I wanted to write something which expressed all the things I wish I'd said to my doctors and therapists at the time, but didn't have the words to." With the music industry being cutthroat, someone already mentioned how he was signed by Sony when he was younger and then was dropped when he got sick. Hence 'rapping with a slit throat, doing bits by myself swimming backstroke'. Excited to see where your Ren journey takes you!
He tells the story (on Justin Hawkins interview??) that the Sony rep/agent who was dealing with him was really sound & gave him lots of room to try recover etc., but when Ren told him this was going anywhere they agreed to let his contract lapse without any hassle, despite the industry meat-grinder artists are put through.
"the hunger" by Ren........a Totally different side....(rap rap)...but same themes. Genius levels!!!!!💯🎵🔥🙏 .....and yeah,it goes on 🎵🎵🎵🎵 sooooo many avenues to explore 🤷 Truly
Please react to "The Hunger", "Money Game pt 1", "Money Game pt 2", and "The Tale of Jenny and Screech" (Trilogy video), Ren is super talented and I'm so so glad he's starting to get some recognition and attention !! He's been speaking on some real real ish for a long time. Amazing reaction by the way, keep it up!!
Weclome to the obsession, you have a decent rabbit hole to climb into. Ren is brilliant, You have The Trilogy of Jenny and Screech +Violet. Along with many other good ones, such as The Hunger, Power, Genesis as well as What you Want.
This and Chalk outlines relate to his experiences we get to hear him sing in that! He was treated for mental illness for 7yrs before they found the Lymes disease, the money game 1 & 2 is great, The hunger, Genesis, I love losing it and What you want they are fun! like your reaction man.
Ren was (is) a busker in Brighton, and was picked up by Sony about 8-9 years go on the strength of that, but they dropped him when he got sick, and he's been independent ever since. With regards to the pig/pig head, I don't believe there's been an official proclamation of its exact meaning but it appears in various videos of his ("The Hunger" is one you might not have seen yet) and I've personally concluded it's broadly an allusion to Animal Farm and/or Lord of the Flies, and Ren's general disdain for the whole "system" as embodied by those works.
@@ChrisLawton66 Yo, do you have a link to that 'cause I'd be really interested to read it (I've bounced around Ren's various online presences but wherever that shows up must have escaped my attention)?
Ren actually spoke about the pig in his Twitter stream back in December. He said he liked George Orwell and his book Animal Farm. He said the pig will make more appearances in his other new songs coming out later this year.
As another person who deals with ongoing health issues, I feel your wife's frustration with the healthcare industry. To extend the car analogy a bit more: cars were originally designed by the human mind and despite some small changes based on model, they all essentially work the same way. With medicine, where each 'model' is an original build and where issues can be on a microscopic level, it's essentially a bit like listening to advice from a friend when your car breaks down when the friend has the automotive expertise to change the oil.
For a storytelling journey, check out his trilogy. They are best watched back to back, in correct order. For your convenience, he has compiled all 3 in once video called “The Tale of Jenny & Screech (full)”,
FYI: Bre Petrunko - Koutev Bulgarian National Ensemble is the "name" of the background "song". its a Bulgarian Chant. Sadly most will know it from those little tiktak hobby-stars using it for some "bad" stuff mostly. but it would be a really "happy" song normally
I went down the Ren rabbit hole . I found where he was with his band. He has been in a few bands actually but, I found War Pigs by Black Sabbath and he was singing it . The dude can do anything. Was nice to find something I knew. but I liked 90 % of his stuff or anything he was involved with. Highly talented.
Ren is in Canada at the moment getting further treatment for Lymes Disease... Hes there till June/July time but he has a lot of music in his back catalogue...
Great reaction. I have probably watched 200+ and every single one positive. Ren was set to be a star and signed by Sony who only dropped him when he became ill. Now, I bet every lable out there would be on their knees begging him to record for them. I'm hoping he sticks to being independent, as he can do whatever he puts his mind too, his way. Looking forward to you reacting to The Hunger and Money Game. Also Chalk Outlines for something completely different and absolutely beautiful, with some amazing lyrics. As a guy hitting 60 years old who has suffered with mental illness all my life, I relate to everything Ren has to say. Looking forward to future reactions 👍
With regard to the pig head, he has commented that his mates found the pig head when prepping to shoot the video for The Hunger and he just instantly loved it. He said it felt like a representation of greed. Edit to add: Hope the wife liked this one too!
On the topic of the industry being cut throat: artists do not only sell their music to producers, they actually sell their entire Name and Brand. And if they do not, then most music producers will not produce any of their music at all. That means that not only does their creative power go to the producers but also their name is underneath the producer's name, and they may not get all of the revenue for the sales of their songs in the future. 😔
Ren was signed to a label but was dropped when he was ill. He mjeans you don’t get the chance to be artistic, it is usually churned out plastic generic music .Also industry takes most of the artists creations.
I'm not sure if you've figured this out in the last three weeks, but Ren *was* signed by Sony Music. He got lyme disease which went misdiagnosed as schizophrenic psychosis. Because of being "psychotic" Sony dropped him from the label. So I'd say he's pretty well spot on when he says the music industry is cut-throat.
I'm guessing that the NHS covered most of the med costs, so Europe is fairly different than the US in that respect. However, if a consultant makes any kind of stab/guess & misses, everybody goes over the cliff with them - GP's & even other consultants will defer to whats written down - you can go around the houses multiple times before someone grasps the nettle. If you catch any of the blogs he did when he was at his worst, they'll break your heart as well as give you insight into their living hell. Check out 'Crutch' - such a simple, amazing song/video, written when he was at a very low ebb.
Great reaction! He's not just a rap artist. You should try the Tales, the Tale of Jenny and Screech full version. He's a master storyteller. To here him si g maybe Chalk Outlines with Chinchilla. Enjoy😊
There is a video of Ren and the Therapist practicing their lines. It gives a little insight to his creative hard work. th-cam.com/video/eILISays-4k/w-d-xo.html
He has Lyme disease, and an auto-immune disorder. The Tale of Jenny and Screech(full) should be next... you really see so much more talent in that trilogy. It's so Shakespeare. So Edgar Allen Poe. 100% pure talent.
I think the genius of this song is the backing track. Not only the drum beat and how it moves the song but also the vocal track. It’s eerie and dare I say Africanized enough to symbolize base thought form when you have a cacophony of voices in your head that never leave you alone. It’s very base. Fookin genius. Taking music video and rapping to a next level. A NEEDED next level. Performance art yet again using sight, sound, and emotion to deliver messages that the planet needs to hear. Glad to have you on that journey, Panda. Welcome in. 🖖🏻
All I can think of is virtual reality sewing...wtf? Then my stoned ass sees a sewing machine behind you... This song both visits his own illnesses and experiences, but also the general depravity of humanity (I swear I didn't mean to ryhm). Check out his incredible duet, Chalk Outlibes, live Ren x Chinchilla. Kid can sing too !!
You're right man, if you have true art that people will appreciate, it will eventually rise to the surface. Ren is such a breath of fresh air. In a time when music has become generic and lacking message for the sake of sales, Ren is the hero we need.
Please check out some Tom MacDonald if you like the humanitarian and truth telling aspect of the lyrics. Totally independent. Castles would be a good place to start. ❤️🔥💯 ps I hated rap before I found these two guys, stemming from direct life experiences. Also lost close family members to mental illness issues. This is a movement sir💕🥊🦋✨ I will sub😌
I know you like a bit of reggae, but to appreciate Ren’s diversity as a musician, check out the band Ren plays in, The Big Push, playing I shot the sheriff on the streets of Brighton. th-cam.com/video/uSeCuR51rek/w-d-xo.html As well as playing electric guitar, you will also find vids of him playing bass on TH-cam. A very talented dude. A big shout out to the guys who do his videos, @SamuelPerryFalvey et al To @RenMakesMusic, I know you’ve posted a lot of reactions to Hi Ren reactors, but I suggest watching Parking Lot Panda’s reaction to it, maybe leaving a few words if you have time. :) PS thanks for all your music!
I believe he had a contract with Sony years ago but was dropped because of his illness. He was also in a busker band The Big Push. Great reaction btw, new to your channel and subbed.
just to point out pushing pharm in the UK is completley different ,,,there is no paying at the point of use not like your country,,, you cannot even advertise on tv
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Ren has Lyme Disease which was misdiagnosed for years causing physical and psychological problems. He's currently in Canada undergoing specialist treatment for it.
Buckle up fella for your trip on Ren's rollercoaster. It's a wild ride
Great job again. Please try the trilogy of Jenny and screech (full). It has 3 parts and is about 13 min. This is where Ren really shows his Genre--Bard. Jenny then screech and then Violet in order and all in one take for full-on impact if you find some time. Cheers
This!!!? Possibly his biggest masterpiece yet imo, you still haven't seen the peak of Rens versatility musically and creatively.
Great job noticing the therapist reading a script 😉
Ren got super powers from a tick bite. His Lyme Disease went misdiagnosed for seven years. The doctors told him that his symptoms were psychosomatic, that it was his brain making his body sick, so Ren went to war with himself, inside his own head, but he just kept getting worse. With a full tank of meds that were meant to keep him sane and street drugs that he took just to numb the pain, he turned to his music to maintain his brain while his health and sanity began circling the drain. He finally got a proper diagnosis, but the damage had been done. Now he's in Canada, receiving stem cell therapy to try to repair some of the permanent nerve damage that he suffered.
That was poetic. Nice.
He was signed by Sony when in his late teens and was dropped soon after when he got sick.
According to his website, the pig mask is because he used to hallucinate seeing people in animal masks possibly due to his appreciation of Orwell.
As a Deaf man that awesomely chaotic Heavy Back beat bled right over his therapists voice almost completely drowning it out I saw that as a wonderful metaphor of how therapy and therapists were completely oblivious to his needs Part changer therapy was a stunningly good description you made, Excellent video
Thank you so much for your kind words! 🙏 I'm glad my comparison worked for some people 😊
For the 'lore', here's a comment he posted on his community page before Sick Boi came out:
"Years before I was diagnosed correctly with autoimmunity, Lyme disease, and brain damage I was misdiagnosed as bipolar and spent years bouncing back and forth between therapists and trialing different antidepressants all the while getting worse and worse
With lots of things in life we expect to see fairly linear results rewarding the effort we put in. We put in the work, and are rewarded for our efforts. When you put in monumental levels of effort doing self work, stress reduction techniques, CBT, self affirmations, following strict medication regimes with pills with a long list of side effects, and end up worse its a really defeating and confusing place to be because it contradicts everything we've been taught. It shakes your trust in the medical system. I wanted to write something which captured the frustration of this journey. I wanted to write something which expressed all the things I wish I'd said to my doctors and therapists at the time, but didn't have the words to."
With the music industry being cutthroat, someone already mentioned how he was signed by Sony when he was younger and then was dropped when he got sick. Hence 'rapping with a slit throat, doing bits by myself swimming backstroke'.
Excited to see where your Ren journey takes you!
He tells the story (on Justin Hawkins interview??) that the Sony rep/agent who was dealing with him was really sound & gave him lots of room to try recover etc., but when Ren told him this was going anywhere they agreed to let his contract lapse without any hassle, despite the industry meat-grinder artists are put through.
"the hunger" by Ren........a Totally different side....(rap rap)...but same themes. Genius levels!!!!!💯🎵🔥🙏 .....and yeah,it goes on 🎵🎵🎵🎵 sooooo many avenues to explore 🤷 Truly
My fav line is "I’m not sick, we are." Who wouldn’t be depressed and anxious on this rock?
Love some Ren reactions. Please join us in the Ren Rabbithole. We even might have cookies down here 🍪🍪🍪
Ren - What you want is a lighter one Beastie boys homage if you want different Ren.
Great reaction again by the way.
I believe he has stated the pig face represents greed.
Yes. Straight out of Animal Farm
Yes and no, it's a recurring reference in his videos referencing both Animal Farm and the hallucinations he experienced of people in animal masks
The song in the background is called Bre Petrunko. Snoop Dogg and Bishop Lamont used it too
Please react to "The Hunger", "Money Game pt 1", "Money Game pt 2", and "The Tale of Jenny and Screech" (Trilogy video), Ren is super talented and I'm so so glad he's starting to get some recognition and attention !! He's been speaking on some real real ish for a long time. Amazing reaction by the way, keep it up!!
Weclome to the obsession, you have a decent rabbit hole to climb into. Ren is brilliant, You have The Trilogy of Jenny and Screech +Violet. Along with many other good ones, such as The Hunger, Power, Genesis as well as What you Want.
REN is a genius , good luck with your channel 😊
This and Chalk outlines relate to his experiences we get to hear him sing in that! He was treated for mental illness for 7yrs before they found the Lymes disease, the money game 1 & 2 is great, The hunger, Genesis, I love losing it and What you want they are fun! like your reaction man.
Definitely the trilogy next please. Jenny’s Tale, Screech’s Tale and Violet’s Tale in that order. Great reaction, thanks!
Ren was (is) a busker in Brighton, and was picked up by Sony about 8-9 years go on the strength of that, but they dropped him when he got sick, and he's been independent ever since.
With regards to the pig/pig head, I don't believe there's been an official proclamation of its exact meaning but it appears in various videos of his ("The Hunger" is one you might not have seen yet) and I've personally concluded it's broadly an allusion to Animal Farm and/or Lord of the Flies, and Ren's general disdain for the whole "system" as embodied by those works.
There's an explanation on his website in the "about" section. You're not far off at all.
@@ChrisLawton66 Yo, do you have a link to that 'cause I'd be really interested to read it (I've bounced around Ren's various online presences but wherever that shows up must have escaped my attention)?
Ren actually spoke about the pig in his Twitter stream back in December. He said he liked George Orwell and his book Animal Farm. He said the pig will make more appearances in his other new songs coming out later this year.
20 minutes on his TH-cam Community page will tell you a lot about Ren. He's a unique artist and a unique person!
You earned a sub from me for going immediately to more Ren. Exactly what I did when ‘Hi Ren’ hit so hard.
I recommend every single solitary piece by Ren. Then his band The Big Push also but start with his rendition of I Shot the Sheriff.
This is, amongst the 500 other reactions I've seen, one of my favorites. Thank you! 🖤
Ren got signed to Sony and they dropped him when he got sick.
Ren 👏👏👏👏👏, great reaction from you👍👍👍
As another person who deals with ongoing health issues, I feel your wife's frustration with the healthcare industry. To extend the car analogy a bit more: cars were originally designed by the human mind and despite some small changes based on model, they all essentially work the same way. With medicine, where each 'model' is an original build and where issues can be on a microscopic level, it's essentially a bit like listening to advice from a friend when your car breaks down when the friend has the automotive expertise to change the oil.
For a storytelling journey, check out his trilogy. They are best watched back to back, in correct order. For your convenience, he has compiled all 3 in once video called “The Tale of Jenny & Screech (full)”,
All his music/art is different, that what puts him way above every other 🔥
FYI: Bre Petrunko - Koutev Bulgarian National Ensemble is the "name" of the background "song". its a Bulgarian Chant. Sadly most will know it from those little tiktak hobby-stars using it for some "bad" stuff mostly. but it would be a really "happy" song normally
I went down the Ren rabbit hole . I found where he was with his band. He has been in a few bands actually but, I found War Pigs by Black Sabbath and he was singing it . The dude can do anything. Was nice to find something I knew. but I liked 90 % of his stuff or anything he was involved with. Highly talented.
The big push is one of his bands
Just got done with your hi ren reaction! Dude, you absolutely nailed it, never noticed the bit about the script before... blew my mind.
Ren is in Canada at the moment getting further treatment for Lymes Disease... Hes there till June/July time but he has a lot of music in his back catalogue...
Great reaction. I have probably watched 200+ and every single one positive. Ren was set to be a star and signed by Sony who only dropped him when he became ill. Now, I bet every lable out there would be on their knees begging him to record for them. I'm hoping he sticks to being independent, as he can do whatever he puts his mind too, his way. Looking forward to you reacting to The Hunger and Money Game. Also Chalk Outlines for something completely different and absolutely beautiful, with some amazing lyrics. As a guy hitting 60 years old who has suffered with mental illness all my life, I relate to everything Ren has to say. Looking forward to future reactions 👍
Great job man when he was younger he got signed to Sony (I think) but they dropped him when he became sick so he's now independent
I would also love to see you react to "The Tale of Jenny & Screetch" (Full) as Ren is an amazing Bard of our time.
Yes, please check out more songs by Ren. He's great. Just phenomenal!
He was diagnosed with Lyme disease. Hence his words in this song "bitten by a tick boy" 😥
With regard to the pig head, he has commented that his mates found the pig head when prepping to shoot the video for The Hunger and he just instantly loved it. He said it felt like a representation of greed.
Edit to add: Hope the wife liked this one too!
The cut throat line was because he was signed by Sony when he was younger and they dropped him when he got ill. Classy Sony.
I really enjoy your reactions. They are real and honest and have become my favorite. Thank you!
On the topic of the industry being cut throat: artists do not only sell their music to producers, they actually sell their entire Name and Brand. And if they do not, then most music producers will not produce any of their music at all. That means that not only does their creative power go to the producers but also their name is underneath the producer's name, and they may not get all of the revenue for the sales of their songs in the future. 😔
Ren was signed to a label but was dropped when he was ill. He mjeans you don’t get the chance to be artistic, it is usually churned out plastic generic music .Also industry takes most of the artists creations.
I'm not sure if you've figured this out in the last three weeks, but Ren *was* signed by Sony Music. He got lyme disease which went misdiagnosed as schizophrenic psychosis. Because of being "psychotic" Sony dropped him from the label. So I'd say he's pretty well spot on when he says the music industry is cut-throat.
It hits different i've you seen Ren's short where he shows all his pills he needs to swallow it's a lot.
Check out Chalk Oulines (Live) with Chinchilla, it is beautiful! And his trilogy Jenny and Screech's Tale (full) it's incredible storytelling
I'm guessing that the NHS covered most of the med costs, so Europe is fairly different than the US in that respect.
However, if a consultant makes any kind of stab/guess & misses, everybody goes over the cliff with them - GP's & even other consultants will defer to whats written down - you can go around the houses multiple times before someone grasps the nettle.
If you catch any of the blogs he did when he was at his worst, they'll break your heart as well as give you insight into their living hell.
Check out 'Crutch' - such a simple, amazing song/video, written when he was at a very low ebb.
Thank you for the top content. Keep going!
Great reaction! He's not just a rap artist. You should try the Tales, the Tale of Jenny and Screech full version. He's a master storyteller. To here him si g maybe Chalk Outlines with Chinchilla. Enjoy😊
There is a video of Ren and the Therapist practicing their lines.
It gives a little insight to his creative hard work.
th-cam.com/video/eILISays-4k/w-d-xo.html
He has Lyme disease, and an auto-immune disorder.
The Tale of Jenny and Screech(full) should be next... you really see so much more talent in that trilogy. It's so Shakespeare. So Edgar Allen Poe. 100% pure talent.
I discovered you due to your reactions to Ren. I absolutely love your vibe and voice. Keep up the good work man❤️
Thanks - great reaction.
Check Ren's new drop Bittersweet Symphony Retake, it is joyful
Great reactions! Check out Money Game 1& 2, Chalked Outlines and Genesis!
Please do the Tale of Jenny & Screech (full)!! Great reaction.
Ren is so talented. If you want to watch a different side of his music, watch his band called The Big Push - I shot the sheriff live
I think the genius of this song is the backing track. Not only the drum beat and how it moves the song but also the vocal track. It’s eerie and dare I say Africanized enough to symbolize base thought form when you have a cacophony of voices in your head that never leave you alone. It’s very base. Fookin genius. Taking music video and rapping to a next level. A NEEDED next level. Performance art yet again using sight, sound, and emotion to deliver messages that the planet needs to hear. Glad to have you on that journey, Panda. Welcome in. 🖖🏻
It's a Bulgarian folk song...pretty far from Africa.
@@ratmackay awesome! Doesn’t matter it haunting and perfect for the song.
A couple days ago on Ren's page community sections he posted an update on his progress. Won't be too much new stuff for awhile. sad :(
He has made sure, that he has six months worth of music drops in hand
All I can think of is virtual reality sewing...wtf? Then my stoned ass sees a sewing machine behind you...
This song both visits his own illnesses and experiences, but also the general depravity of humanity (I swear I didn't mean to ryhm).
Check out his incredible duet, Chalk Outlibes, live Ren x Chinchilla. Kid can sing too !!
Tpu need to see his Money Game 1 & 2... part 3 coming soon!
Also... Crucify your Culture!
Now, you have to do the Jenny and Screech trilogy all together.
🎉 I love you videos I really love you
Yes man!
He was signed and they dropped him when he got sick... I bet Sony are pi$$ed off now... Lol...
You're right man, if you have true art that people will appreciate, it will eventually rise to the surface. Ren is such a breath of fresh air. In a time when music has become generic and lacking message for the sake of sales, Ren is the hero we need.
Yes, please do Jenny & screech full vid 👌🔥
Ren was signed by Sony but when he got sick they dumped him smh. I bet they are kicking themselves right now
Try hunger ✌️😎
It is time to turn FROM the pharmaceutical company. I did! 👍👍👍👍
It’s sad. He had a contract with Sony and they dropped him because of his health
i would love for you to check out chalk outlines and how to be me! to see another side of him
Please check out some Tom MacDonald if you like the humanitarian and truth telling aspect of the lyrics. Totally independent. Castles would be a good place to start. ❤️🔥💯 ps I hated rap before I found these two guys, stemming from direct life experiences. Also lost close family members to mental illness issues. This is a movement sir💕🥊🦋✨
I will sub😌
Get to know Pink Floyd. Especially their album Animals. Then the PIG will make sense.
Subscribed
I know you like a bit of reggae, but to appreciate Ren’s diversity as a musician, check out the band Ren plays in, The Big Push, playing I shot the sheriff on the streets of Brighton. th-cam.com/video/uSeCuR51rek/w-d-xo.html
As well as playing electric guitar, you will also find vids of him playing bass on TH-cam. A very talented dude. A big shout out to the guys who do his videos, @SamuelPerryFalvey et al
To @RenMakesMusic, I know you’ve posted a lot of reactions to Hi Ren reactors, but I suggest watching Parking Lot Panda’s reaction to it, maybe leaving a few words if you have time. :) PS thanks for all your music!
undistry is cut throat: he is talking about labels, not his own unsigned stuff in youtube
money game 1 + 2...............
If you fix stuff instead of replacing it. Companies will lay off their 3rd world laborers, and they will starve.
Check out Ren Hunger
I believe he had a contract with Sony years ago but was dropped because of his illness. He was also in a busker band The Big Push. Great reaction btw, new to your channel and subbed.
dont stop the fucking song..
just to point out pushing pharm in the UK is completley different ,,,there is no paying at the point of use not like your country,,, you cannot even advertise on tv