As some have mentioned, the sub-zero temperatures caused a slip of the tongue. The Active Height Control suspension in the LX470 is hydraulic, not air. Forgive us, and enjoy!
I used to commute to college in a hand-me-down 2005 Lexus LX470 with 175k on the odometer. That thing still drove like new and was the most comfortable ride ever. I miss that vehicle
@@stayphun6188 Nah, Toyota quality has gone downhill in recent years. Even they "don't make 'em like they used to"... Look at all the issue's with the 2022 Tundra for example.
@@yukonstriker1703 You say as if all of them have problems. Some people are not used to turbo engines, that does not count? Car companies are very easy to be blamed...
@@johndoyle3232 oh okay understandable thought your dad gave it to you and you ended up selling it or trading it and a fj cruiser definitely hold up its value smart choice
I bought my LX470 in 2019 for $8000CAD, it had 317k on it, it's now at 375k. I've taken it on adventures in BC, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Montana, Wyoming and Colorado. It's never broken down or let me down. I even towed a 20 foot trailer with a sports car on it from Denver to Calgary. Best vehicle I've ever owned. And camping out of it is amazing. The drop down tailgate just makes life so much better. Before this I had a brand new Range Rover and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have done everything my 20 year old LX.
My father had a Lexus GX470 for quite a long time. He was born in a small Russian farmer village and eventually grinded his way into owning a business in the city. I've never seen a more perfect match between a person and a car
Similar story with my dad. Still owns LX470 which he outright refuses to replace and spends staggering amount of money to maintain it in pristine condition.
Similar story with my dad. Still owns LX470 which he outright refuses to replace and spends staggering amount of money to maintain it in pristine condition.
I love the way Thomas says “Lexus” in the beginning of the video, like “it’s not a toyota, it’s a ‘lexus’ everything about it is ‘Lexusy’” with a gentle softness, capturing the essence of Lexus
I will never get tired of this channels content. My wife owns the 2023 LX600 (with the bench seat in the back). She has also owned a 2013 and 2018 LX 570. This LX600 is by far better than the other two and she loves it. The new version is way better than what was sold on this video, but having said that. I think the best take away is "it's for brand loyalists" (my wife is) and that holds true for all LX versions.
@DOGS LOL Look up Ricky Gervais at the 2020 Golden Globes calling them out on their hypocrisy and elitism. The Hollyweirdos were not happy to say the least.
The Active Height Control suspension used in the 100-series, 200-series and the new 300-series is hydraulic (pneumatic). It's not air suspension like on a Range Rover. The adjustable hydraulic suspension is a lot more reliable than an air suspension. Some people choose to remove it because it gets in the way if you want to lift the car and put bigger tires on.
Pneumatic is the same as air suspension, coming from the greek pneumo - air ( or lungs - pneumonia ). But i do not know how the hydraulic system in the case of Land Cruisers works
That's the type of engineering that you expect of a Lexus lamdcruiser. You get the comfort of air suspension with less of the reliability issue. I'm really impressed that they made a commitment to that
I scored a GS430 sedan with a 3UZ V8, in superb condition, with all kinds of cool gadgets for less than $8k USD. Old Lexus vehicles really are the way to go.
The LX470 and Land Cruiser 100 series are among the most reliable cars to ever have been made. My '99 LC has more than 500,000 miles on it and hasn't had any major issues. I hope to be driving it for another 20 years!
My grandpa's Santana is around 40 years old and has probably more than those 500k miles of yours, except they were not done on highways and concrete streets but actual mountain offroads to get to his farm and back... No poshy Toyota with an overcomplicated V8 and 2 tons of useless steel to move around will ever be a truly reliable off roader. None of them are used in the actual work environments, and when they are, they barely last. They're big, expensive and inefficient. Im quite impressed how much you yanks have fallen for toyota's marketing. Them and their japanese rivals have a lot of cars better than the LC. The LC is just another road SUV with some 4x4 capabilities. Any 4 pot diesel in Europe with a bit of maintenance can get to those 500k miles and more... Road miles are nothing for modern cars.
My vehicle has lived a very rough life, retired ambulance. Left to idle for hours and hours, then driven full throttle everywhere. Runs perfect. Had an F150 (ex kept in the divorce). 20 years old, beat to hell, actually used for work (the passenger mirror is taped on from a cow ripping it off), still works fine.
I actually would pick a capstone sequoia over this. I just love the looks of it compared to this. I'd also like an LX470 but they're still pretty expensive! I've been looking at LS430's
@@mediocreman2 I thought about changing our family car but every time I take it out off road I don’t want to get rid of it. Just other day I was going deep in the woods with my family and there was brand new 4Runner with full suspension package with whole camping gear set up on the other side. Our eyes met and I realized I am literally doing same thing this guy is doing in 98 Toyota for less then 1/3 of cost.
@@jamesengelsman9369 Thanks for the reply James! I think the original post was trying to say that the AHC system is driven by hydraulic fluid and not air.
@@jamesengelsman9369 Sorry, I work as a Lexus tech and have notice these things from a couple other youtubers. Also noticed the new LX600 comes standard with regular shocks/suspension for the first time sense the LX450, that'll be easier for enthusiast to lift them. Cool for you to respond, keep doing what you're doing!
@@kristians2704 Because it's the premier luxury version of the "Toyota Land Cruiser", capable of going over 1 million miles with relatively few issues. The new ones may not be so reliable with the new engine set-up.
@@billrobsham697 The new ones come with a twin turbo v6 engine (not the big v8). The same engines in the new tundra are already having major malfunction in their first year.
@@barrydraper oh I know. Been studying what's been happening with the Tundra and figured they were gonna do the same engine in Lexus . too bad , The 4.7 and 5.7 v8s were legendary. That 3.5 is going to have multiple recalls before it's a solid engine
My friend's '06 LX470 which he got at 183k miles, literally & i mean literally, not exaggerating at all, feels like just came off the showroom in terms of engine & transmission. Even the hydraulics work perfectly. The only things he changed were the bushes all around, and steering wheel leather and the notorious M&L speakers. The V8 sound is simply amazing.
I love my vintage Lexus cars. Hands down best build quality of any of the 30 plus from multiple brands I have ever had. Folks say they don’t have a personality but they do. They are that friend who forgives you for being a mess. They’re the tireless moms and dads who are always there with a warm place to retreat to when you need it. They aren’t always the fastest or the prettiest but they really come through. Finally, they REWARD YOU for maintaining them with 30 plus years of service. What more can you ask for?
Anyone else notice its a Baldie in Ontario at teh start of the vid; very rare these days, but they're making a slow comeback in the province. Nice shot!!
I adore my lx470 that I got a year ago, the honeymoon period still hasn't ended and I plan to have it for a long long time. It truly does have a spirit to last and I get so many compliments on it.
That RX300 story James and Thomas i understand completely. Had a 94 Camry Wagon with the same Lexus engine and it never let me down until rust went through it well in the 350k km's😅. These Lexus engines can run forever even abused.
There is nothing after perfection but imperfection. This is the case for all cars. Whenever they reach the top of their comfort and quality, the shortages will be after that. Just like a human being is born a small child, then reaches youth, then returns weak and old Unfortunately, now we miss these wonderful and powerful models, and also for a very low price compared to the new ones
🤨 I can’t tell if that last sentence is a nod to the widely popularized rumor that Japanese cars have consistent long term dependability or if you’re just a reckless man with a death wish. 😅
@Martin Amazingly enough some car manufacturers used to sell "next year's model" at the end of the previous year. It's a 98 year model, purchased in 97. Some still do this. It's a marketing gimmick.
In 2018 I was in the market for a 4Runner. An 03’ 4Runner with decent mileage was about $14k-$15k. I bought an ‘06 Lexus GX470 with basically no miles for $10k.
@@MAX-re4pc adjusting for inflation is useless unless the wages have experienced the same inflation. Which they hadn't. The effective cost for buyers has increased. Companies earn less but their costs are also reduced for them.
I have the honor of owning a Lexus LX470 and I must say, " you should have drove a model with the active suspench. Its freaking AMAZING. The ability to switch from soft to hard in the flick of a real switch. That you can actually feel and switch in an instant. Your 470 goes from rolling Rhino to performance turn hugging cheetah...No joke. This is where I really have to say OEM or JDM is the best. There is no comparison Lexus aka Toyota spent millions of dollars and hired the smartest Japanese employee to design that system. I just don't think any other option comes close. I get it its expensive to replace but it will last another 200k miles. PS also try to keep the JDM wheels if you can. The vehicle was designed and balanced with the wheels it came with.
2:59 “The Lexus ride quality where it moves a lot. Lexus has never been afraid of suspension travel. It's very not german in the way that it does that. It just lets the whole thing move side to side and soak up the bumps.” Just like Citroen 2CV 😉
Floaty rides suck. Constant correction. Can't relax. I drive an 4th gen 4runner and it drives 10x better than a Ford expedition we rented for a family trip. The expedition was so floated and scary. Body roll. I could never relax.
You should keep in mind that these cars are aimed towards older buyers who may not want the most futuristic design. They just want the new thing that does the job comfortably
I'm willing to bet that new high-compression twin turbo V6 won't last even half as long as the old 4.7 or 5.7. Those turbos will be the Achilles heel of this new engine.
Toyota won’t put this engine on its 5 top cars lx600,ls500,lc300, tundra,sequoia if it’s not tested well,,btw the engine on ls500 since 2018 works fine
Yes, the price of the new one is ridiculous, but let's be honest, $17.5k for that LX470 is equally ridiculous. That thing shouldn't be more than $6-8k considering its condition.
You cannot imagine just how popular these are in the Middle East and the UAE all the old Lexus models especially the old clean ones are very much sought after
I’ve noticed that too, it’s probably because of the air suspension. Either that or just the reputation of the Land Cruiser name alone is demanding a premium
Same with the Lexus GX and 4Runner. I could pick up a 1st gen GX in average miles and condition for $12,000 while people are asking up to $16,000 for same condition 4th gen Toyota 4Runner.
These are by far my favorite videos! You guys are the best and entertaining and making the best quality videos. Please make more old vs new Lexus videos!
I have an 04 Sequoia with the 4.7 and it’s coming up on 300,000 miles of faithful service. The newer stuff has more tech and probably better economy but my “Landcrab” has yet to let me down so I’ll keep running it until the wheels fall off.
wow already threw in the Will Smith Oscar’s joke.lol The older LX was actually a Toyota Landcruiser Cygnus in Japan -when they didn’t have the Lexus brand yet.
My 03 Sequoia just keeps on going, I am a preventative maintenance freak and there are times I wonder how long can it go. Turns twenty in November, last oil analysis stated all is normal. Now my Audi on the other hand🤬
Anyone else notice its a Baldie in Ontario at the start of the vid; very rare these days, but they're making a slow comeback in the province. Nice shot!!
So fun to see another LX470 in Ontario. I appreciated the defense of the 100… I love it equally. I too have large BFG A\T tires (which throw the speed and odometer by 7% btw). And my AHC still works (🤞🏻)! Incidentally, there’s a dash button that manually extends and retracts the antenna to any desired height (for off-road driving). Also, this is spot on…. I throw lots of money to keep this thing in tip-top shape and intend to drive it for 20 more years.
I had a 2004 LX 470 for a bit over 10 years, put on 450,000 miles (bought it brand new), fixed several things but never let me down. I traded in on that mileage still running exceptionally good, great truck. That one you showed there was beat up with a lot less mileage than mine.
My daily is a rust free 2005 LX470 with 284K on the odo. The only thing that's playing up is the speedo, everything single thing else on it is perfect. In the 70K miles I've owned it I did the timing belt and replaced a bad alternator. That's it (besides consumables). I've taken it legit off roading, camping to the boondocks and everything in between. It's the best vehicles I've ever owned. They really don't make them like that anymore. Oh, and the AHC works like a champ and spoils you. Get on a really bumpy dirt road and click it over to soft, smooth as butter. Need a little lift? Put AHC in High and you have a 2 inch lift. What's not to love?
I've got a 2001 LX470 with 253k miles/410k km that I absolutely love. I paid $8,000 for it. It's rusty and has a broken mirror and rips on the seats and stains on the carpet. It's taken us up mountains and through deserts and over rivers, to dozens of campsites. We're shopping for a LX570 to replace it, but only because of the rust that's accumulated - it's been solid and reliable for us for 4 years.
The point of the title is made yet having a 17k plus vehicle listed as a beater could be a stretch. This means the boys are making money and going to be doing more super cars, letssss goooooo!
I'd rather have my current 2000 LX470 over this new one. Dark grey 289K, AHC suspension works great, 275/65/18 Cooper ATP. Ironman bumper and 12k winch. etc. I bought it for 13,500 USD, total with upgrades im in it for about 19K. Doug Thorley headers, Maganaflow exhaust, DBA rotors and pads, new coils, plugs, Apple car play, Pioneer touch screen, etc etc. I love it.
@emeeul the head unit is an aftermarket Pioneer touch screen with the apple car play Bluetooth. External handheld wired into head unit. Was already like that when I bought it, not two different screens,
I think it looks good and has a lot of road presence. It’s not meant to be considered a full time off reader, but a luxury vehicle that you know will work really well even if you did take it off-road.
I dont think new cars will last because the technology is integral to their basic functions and once the electrical systems fail the car is junked. Older cars have tech that fails but its just loss of convenience.
I have a 2014 LX 570 with 77k. We drove through the Mojave trail summer time, and on Shafer Trail through a winter storm. The LX got us through all of them safely and comfortably.
I think a lot of people forgets that the Sequoia has a multi link independent rear suspension, and not the LX live axle with coil spring. Ride quality alone, I think it could match the Lexus at a much lower price.
@@dariuskila huh, wouldn’t that mean Toyota is intentionally putting their car at a disadvantage? Practically all of the Sequoia main competition already have IRS at this point
@@ricebox1178 that was my thought at first, but if you look online, it’ll show. Look at the 3rd row legroom in the new sequoia, that was regressive instead of progressive. The hybrid battery is also packed under there as well, but my guess is as good as yours as to why they’ve a step backwards.
If anyone is seriously thinking of getting an older LX, as I was, I suggest you look at the LX570, they started making them in 2007 and the 2007-2011 model is still good but the 2012-2015 facelift/update was a big one and that's the one I decided to go for as it had the best combination of luxury, design, modernity and price/value. I've got a 2004 LS430 and I've found that once accustomed to Lexus craftsmanship, quality, reliability and thoughtfulness of design it's very hard to be satisfied or impressed by anything else. However I am, at heart, a convertible guy, so over the years I've test driven various year models & specifications of the SC430, about 4 different times at different dealerships hoping I'd find a version satisfying enough to finally trade in and buy, unfortunately that never occurred. *However* whilst at a dealership looking at an SC430 I saw a 2012 LX570 which I took out for a test, and then a couple more tests at different dealerships and they were all excellent. I had long admired the LX570 in traffic as the rear is tall, wide & flat with 2 huge light clusters, not at all swoopy or sporty, and the side profile is similarly flat and vast, with long straight lines meeting at sharp angles, it looks both refined and uniquely imposing, especially in all 6 layers of Lexus' gorgeous Pearl White paint, which makes it look like Apple joined on with Lexus to design a dictator's personal APC. And I can attest that is also pretty much how you feel whilst driving one, like you're a leader of nations riding around in something bespoke, perpetually looking down upon those you encounter in traffic, able to see what's happening not 2 or 3 but 6 or 7 vehicles ahead letting you efficiently avoid slow drivers and any slow downs. And the vehicle's power matches this grandiosity, with an enormous 5.7L V8 making 380hp with a beautiful smooth power profile. That engine is a sophisticated modern relic, the sort manufacturers will never make again. And whilst it's already quick and powerful if you're so inclined you can even purchase Toyota Racing Development's bespoke Supercharger Kit and ECU for that engine. Which then gives it a bit over 500hp and 55lb ft of torque. Giving it an incredible amount of power, Super Car type acceleration, 0-100 in the low 4's, except you're in an enormous SUV. Additionally the interior design is much more modern than the 2007-2011 models, with more metal switches and knobs plus metallic coloured plastics, giving it a real point of differentiation internally compared to the first gen models. In 2015 they did a major overhaul which used the same platform but beside that the exterior and interior were all in effect brand new barring a couple of panels, they introduced the huge spindle grille that year too. Personally I think the LX570 lost it's character with that update, no longer imposing it looked modern, slick and frankly generic. I came close to getting a 2012 model, even did a few tests but I had to go over season for business for a 18 months and I returned just in time for Covid so I'm still in my ancient LS430. But if you're after an older LX go look at the 2012 and make sure you study the differences between the various updates/facelifts, they make a big difference.
No way, G class is smaller but quite a bit more expensive. GLS on the other hand is basically the same size, a more modern technology and more luxurious, but I guess less off-road capability. 🙃
@@RAZGR1Z That’s so not true, if you care and maintain the car then is going to last. Here in the United States I’ve been able to see Mercedes with more than 300k miles.
Toyota screwed the pooch by selling LX’s against LC’s at commensurate price points. Then they wondered why so few purchased LC’s. If they kept the LC as a more affordable blue collar truck and the LX as the luxo mall crawler, it would have made more sense. 4Runners and Sequoias are nice, but a Land Cruiser they are not.
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As some have mentioned, the sub-zero temperatures caused a slip of the tongue. The Active Height Control suspension in the LX470 is hydraulic, not air. Forgive us, and enjoy!
Gasp!! Unacceptable sir, completely unacceptable. You will be hearing from my lawyers!!
@@yourmommashouse lmfao
and the land cruiser has it as well
make a video on lexus LX570..... pls
Ya'll are forgiven...
I used to commute to college in a hand-me-down 2005 Lexus LX470 with 175k on the odometer. That thing still drove like new and was the most comfortable ride ever. I miss that vehicle
@@stayphun6188 Nah, Toyota quality has gone downhill in recent years.
Even they "don't make 'em like they used to"...
Look at all the issue's with the 2022 Tundra for example.
@@yukonstriker1703 You say as if all of them have problems. Some people are not used to turbo engines, that does not count? Car companies are very easy to be blamed...
Should've kept it landcruiser/lx values are insane rn
@@PROJECTIRONWOLF1 I actually gave it back to my dad after I graduated and bought a FJ. Wanted my own car lol
@@johndoyle3232 oh okay understandable thought your dad gave it to you and you ended up selling it or trading it and a fj cruiser definitely hold up its value smart choice
I bought my LX470 in 2019 for $8000CAD, it had 317k on it, it's now at 375k. I've taken it on adventures in BC, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Montana, Wyoming and Colorado. It's never broken down or let me down. I even towed a 20 foot trailer with a sports car on it from Denver to Calgary.
Best vehicle I've ever owned. And camping out of it is amazing. The drop down tailgate just makes life so much better.
Before this I had a brand new Range Rover and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have done everything my 20 year old LX.
The power of Toyota
As a Range Rover owner I can assure you it would not have made it.
😮which year was your LX. I have a 09 GX here in Calgary
Can’t believe you guys failed to mention Lexus giving up the split tailgate. A HUGE miss for them an a big point for the 2003.
the whosis what now
The fold down tailgate. Great for literally anything you need a table for, or sitting. Without such, you can’t truly tailgate with one of these.
My father had a Lexus GX470 for quite a long time. He was born in a small Russian farmer village and eventually grinded his way into owning a business in the city. I've never seen a more perfect match between a person and a car
Similar story with my dad. Still owns LX470 which he outright refuses to replace and spends staggering amount of money to maintain it in pristine condition.
Similar story with my dad. Still owns LX470 which he outright refuses to replace and spends staggering amount of money to maintain it in pristine condition.
The intros never disappoint!
true
"Anime James can't hurt you"
There was that one time
@@nanashi2146 "Sometimes it takes a real man to be best girl"
@@anordinarytree4425 Cultured reference
I love the way Thomas says “Lexus” in the beginning of the video, like “it’s not a toyota, it’s a ‘lexus’ everything about it is ‘Lexusy’” with a gentle softness, capturing the essence of Lexus
Always interesting to see what the technology on these older luxury car models is like
I will never get tired of this channels content. My wife owns the 2023 LX600 (with the bench seat in the back). She has also owned a 2013 and 2018 LX 570. This LX600 is by far better than the other two and she loves it. The new version is way better than what was sold on this video, but having said that. I think the best take away is "it's for brand loyalists" (my wife is) and that holds true for all LX versions.
What does your wife do to afford 3 LX. I want to know. Or you if you bought those for her 🤯
Y’all rich 😂
Finally found one of those 5000 lx buyers
- billionaire confirmed
@@muntahakhan5336 gold digga look at the pic
"It has a sound system that slaps harder than Will Smith at the Oscars" 😭
@Neil Lin You sir win the internet today
@Neil Lin The Lexus is targeting a much, MUCH older demographic than Jada.
@@RAZGR1Z Nothing is older than baldie jada
Chris Rock was the bigger man. Respect to him for holding back and continuing the show.
@DOGS LOL Look up Ricky Gervais at the 2020 Golden Globes calling them out on their hypocrisy and elitism. The Hollyweirdos were not happy to say the least.
The thing that really speaks volumes about the 470 is it’s two decades old, it still has value and it’s worth driving all these years later.
When the 2003 came on the market, it was leaps and bounds ahead of most vehicles. I'm not surprised at all that these are still common.
Absolutely!
It still looks good, even better than the modern one!
The Active Height Control suspension used in the 100-series, 200-series and the new 300-series is hydraulic (pneumatic). It's not air suspension like on a Range Rover. The adjustable hydraulic suspension is a lot more reliable than an air suspension. Some people choose to remove it because it gets in the way if you want to lift the car and put bigger tires on.
Pneumatic is the same as air suspension, coming from the greek pneumo - air ( or lungs - pneumonia ). But i do not know how the hydraulic system in the case of Land Cruisers works
@@xjmdm Hydropneumatic. It does not use air.
@@xjmdm It's definitely a hydraulic system.
@@electrikoptik Hydraulic = Uses oil, Pneumatic = Uses air, Hydropneumatic = Combines an air cylinder and an oil cylinder inside the "strut".
That's the type of engineering that you expect of a Lexus lamdcruiser. You get the comfort of air suspension with less of the reliability issue. I'm really impressed that they made a commitment to that
The Lexus LS and LX series are so good, from the V8 to the driving feel there's nothing like a 2000s Lexus flagship
That grill joke had me rolling even the intro this is a good episode love this car
*punctuation has left the chat*
Therapist: don't worry, Disney/Pixar James isn't real
Disney/Pixar James:
If i did have 150k, they better give a huge discount because of that ugly grille
@@christopher-gardner q1
YESSSS! I’ve been missing these New and Old comparison videos. Glad to see that they’re back!
I scored a GS430 sedan with a 3UZ V8, in superb condition, with all kinds of cool gadgets for less than $8k USD. Old Lexus vehicles really are the way to go.
The LX470 and Land Cruiser 100 series are among the most reliable cars to ever have been made. My '99 LC has more than 500,000 miles on it and hasn't had any major issues. I hope to be driving it for another 20 years!
💯
My grandpa's Santana is around 40 years old and has probably more than those 500k miles of yours, except they were not done on highways and concrete streets but actual mountain offroads to get to his farm and back...
No poshy Toyota with an overcomplicated V8 and 2 tons of useless steel to move around will ever be a truly reliable off roader. None of them are used in the actual work environments, and when they are, they barely last. They're big, expensive and inefficient. Im quite impressed how much you yanks have fallen for toyota's marketing. Them and their japanese rivals have a lot of cars better than the LC. The LC is just another road SUV with some 4x4 capabilities. Any 4 pot diesel in Europe with a bit of maintenance can get to those 500k miles and more... Road miles are nothing for modern cars.
@@AI-qd4vb 👍
My vehicle has lived a very rough life, retired ambulance. Left to idle for hours and hours, then driven full throttle everywhere. Runs perfect.
Had an F150 (ex kept in the divorce). 20 years old, beat to hell, actually used for work (the passenger mirror is taped on from a cow ripping it off), still works fine.
@@AI-qd4vb ????? You do realize that the Landcruiser has been the go to SUV for hellish terrain all over the world since it was created right?
I actually would pick a capstone sequoia over this. I just love the looks of it compared to this. I'd also like an LX470 but they're still pretty expensive! I've been looking at LS430's
@@Dranreb865 V8 or bust
My lx470 just hit 360k and still runs fine with working ac. Want to go check out new LX but old one is still kicking.
Keep it!
I work for Toyota and even they are penny-pinching big time now!
I mean, that's a lot of money too. If you're driving that old junker, maybe you've saved enough though! 😆
@@mediocreman2 I thought about changing our family car but every time I take it out off road I don’t want to get rid of it. Just other day I was going deep in the woods with my family and there was brand new 4Runner with full suspension package with whole camping gear set up on the other side. Our eyes met and I realized I am literally doing same thing this guy is doing in 98 Toyota for less then 1/3 of cost.
@@mediocreman2 no Lexus is a junker. This ain’t Honda/Acura/USA brand
Keep it man those bad boys Last forever
Great episode! I love this type of comparison. I’ll take the character, reliability *and value* of an older car/truck over a new one any day.
EVERYONE GETS THIS WRONG! The LX's/Land cruisers DO NOT have air suspension. It's hydraulic suspension
Correct.
Just to be clear, the new one does have air suspension. The 470 does not
@@jamesengelsman9369 Thanks for the reply James! I think the original post was trying to say that the AHC system is driven by hydraulic fluid and not air.
@@jamesengelsman9369 Sorry, I work as a Lexus tech and have notice these things from a couple other youtubers. Also noticed the new LX600 comes standard with regular shocks/suspension for the first time sense the LX450, that'll be easier for enthusiast to lift them. Cool for you to respond, keep doing what you're doing!
@@danielfield7986 so the new LX 600 is air or oil suspension?
The music at the beginning leading into your introduction was wicked smooth editing. My favourite so far!
The LX has been truly iconic, but I'm very reluctant to think about the twin turbo V6 replacing the bullet-proof V8.
how is the LX even iconic?
@@kristians2704 Because it's the premier luxury version of the "Toyota Land Cruiser", capable of going over 1 million miles with relatively few issues. The new ones may not be so reliable with the new engine set-up.
@@kristians2704 how is it not?
@@billrobsham697 The new ones come with a twin turbo v6 engine (not the big v8). The same engines in the new tundra are already having major malfunction in their first year.
@@barrydraper oh I know. Been studying what's been happening with the Tundra and figured they were gonna do the same engine in Lexus . too bad , The 4.7 and 5.7 v8s were legendary. That 3.5 is going to have multiple recalls before it's a solid engine
My friend's '06 LX470 which he got at 183k miles, literally & i mean literally, not exaggerating at all, feels like just came off the showroom in terms of engine & transmission. Even the hydraulics work perfectly. The only things he changed were the bushes all around, and steering wheel leather and the notorious M&L speakers. The V8 sound is simply amazing.
Give that radio antenna a break. It looks cold there :))
It was in the pool!
I love my vintage Lexus cars. Hands down best build quality of any of the 30 plus from multiple brands I have ever had. Folks say they don’t have a personality but they do. They are that friend who forgives you for being a mess. They’re the tireless moms and dads who are always there with a warm place to retreat to when you need it. They aren’t always the fastest or the prettiest but they really come through. Finally, they REWARD YOU for maintaining them with 30 plus years of service. What more can you ask for?
That Will Smith comment at the end . Well done James
Honestly, it was better than all the memes. Why? You didn't expect it 🤣
@@psedog exactly it's been too recent I wouldn't have thought they were still doing voice overs for the video up until 2 days ago
Anyone else notice its a Baldie in Ontario at teh start of the vid; very rare these days, but they're making a slow comeback in the province. Nice shot!!
@@noopegaaabz7098 That's Jada
Also "you're aniline" was funny
I adore my lx470 that I got a year ago, the honeymoon period still hasn't ended and I plan to have it for a long long time. It truly does have a spirit to last and I get so many compliments on it.
That RX300 story James and Thomas i understand completely. Had a 94 Camry Wagon with the same Lexus engine and it never let me down until rust went through it well in the 350k km's😅. These Lexus engines can run forever even abused.
My uncle had the same car that he ran for about 500,000k they were super reliable.
@@Bigngreen there's supposedly an LS400 with over a Million miles, not KM but Miles.
@@fcorivers Matt Farah's million mile Lexus
Rust is the only thing that can kill a Toyota
@@squidwardshouse67 not new ones
There is nothing after perfection but imperfection. This is the case for all cars. Whenever they reach the top of their comfort and quality, the shortages will be after that. Just like a human being is born a small child, then reaches youth, then returns weak and old
Unfortunately, now we miss these wonderful and powerful models, and also for a very low price compared to the new ones
Still rockin' a 98 4Runner, purchased by me in 97. 350K and going strong. Just started putting miles on a 2010 LX. Should last me until I die.
🤨 I can’t tell if that last sentence is a nod to the widely popularized rumor that Japanese cars have consistent long term dependability or if you’re just a reckless man with a death wish. 😅
@@TheBrianFlanagan The former, not the latter!
@Martin Amazingly enough some car manufacturers used to sell "next year's model" at the end of the previous year. It's a 98 year model, purchased in 97. Some still do this. It's a marketing gimmick.
@Martin Agreed! Thanks for the follow up.
In 2018 I was in the market for a 4Runner. An 03’ 4Runner with decent mileage was about $14k-$15k. I bought an ‘06 Lexus GX470 with basically no miles for $10k.
Love these videos, and the writing. The team is awesome, we gotta see a 98+ SC400 & the LC500 soon!
Love the old SC300/400
1997+ that is when they introduced the new and final body style of the SC/Soarers
@@barryobamaallday erm akshually 🤓
My LX 470 is incredible. 246,000 miles and still charging. True campion of reliability.
Amazing how much has changed in only 19 years...
The price quadrupled.
@@felixfungle-bung4688 disgusting
@@felixfungle-bung4688 Original price for a LX470 was 63k. Adjust for inflation and its 97k. Base price LX600 is 88k.
@@MAX-re4pc okay. Nevermind.
@@MAX-re4pc adjusting for inflation is useless unless the wages have experienced the same inflation. Which they hadn't. The effective cost for buyers has increased. Companies earn less but their costs are also reduced for them.
I have the honor of owning a Lexus LX470 and I must say, " you should have drove a model with the active suspench. Its freaking AMAZING. The ability to switch from soft to hard in the flick of a real switch. That you can actually feel and switch in an instant. Your 470 goes from rolling Rhino to performance turn hugging cheetah...No joke. This is where I really have to say OEM or JDM is the best. There is no comparison Lexus aka Toyota spent millions of dollars and hired the smartest Japanese employee to design that system. I just don't think any other option comes close. I get it its expensive to replace but it will last another 200k miles. PS also try to keep the JDM wheels if you can. The vehicle was designed and balanced with the wheels it came with.
2:59 “The Lexus ride quality where it moves a lot. Lexus has never been afraid of suspension travel. It's very not german in the way that it does that. It just lets the whole thing move side to side and soak up the bumps.”
Just like Citroen 2CV 😉
Floaty rides suck. Constant correction. Can't relax. I drive an 4th gen 4runner and it drives 10x better than a Ford expedition we rented for a family trip. The expedition was so floated and scary. Body roll. I could never relax.
This is what happens when something is greater then the some of its parts. 20 years later still putting smiles on the drivers face.
You should keep in mind that these cars are aimed towards older buyers who may not want the most futuristic design. They just want the new thing that does the job comfortably
Exactly the people they target for this truck
Very true
These biches sells crazy in other parts of the world
I'm willing to bet that new high-compression twin turbo V6 won't last even half as long as the old 4.7 or 5.7. Those turbos will be the Achilles heel of this new engine.
Indisputable!
The only question is "is it worth the performance and fuel efficiency gain if you have to replace them every - say - three years" ?!
Toyota won’t put this engine on its 5 top cars lx600,ls500,lc300, tundra,sequoia if it’s not tested well,,btw the engine on ls500 since 2018 works fine
10:20 Thomas: "It usually longer"
James: "I've heard that before"
Thomas: [visible disappointment] *sign*
There's a switch on the dash to raise and lower the radio antenna. I'm betting they knew that, but went for the joke instead.
sorry to hear that 😂😂
Uncomfortable moment 🤣🤣
Love it when Thomas copies James’ English pronunciation . “Chalk” Does a pretty good job too!
The intros are my absolute favorite.
Keep up the great work!
Yes, the price of the new one is ridiculous, but let's be honest, $17.5k for that LX470 is equally ridiculous. That thing shouldn't be more than $6-8k considering its condition.
They're bringing big money
You cannot imagine just how popular these are in the Middle East and the UAE all the old Lexus models especially the old clean ones are very much sought after
Would be cool to see you guys do the same thing with the newest vs the original RX models!
What's crazy is that the LX470 can be found for much less than a similar Land Cruiser... Wild.
I’ve noticed that too, it’s probably because of the air suspension. Either that or just the reputation of the Land Cruiser name alone is demanding a premium
Yep! Just bought our LX570 and it was cheaper than the comparable Land Cruiser.
cause the lc looks better.
The LX470 has a lot more things that can break. So the Toyota is more more reliable than the Lexus, strangely...
Same with the Lexus GX and 4Runner. I could pick up a 1st gen GX in average miles and condition for $12,000 while people are asking up to $16,000 for same condition 4th gen Toyota 4Runner.
Your videos were always good but they seem to be getting even better lately. Keep the great work.
I have an ‘09 Toyota Sienna and it’s honestly amazing, never wanna give it up
“It’s usually longer”
“Yeah I’ve heard that before”
Dude I just can’t 🤣
Something I didn’t appreciate as much was the sound design on these videos until now. Perfect work
Love my LX 600 F SPORT. Amazing vehicle. The 470 at the time was really cool as well. Still love the quad headlamps
0:13 They got James out here looking like 2023 Ken 😂😂
“And I’m James!” makes me giggle every time. Don’t know why. You’re awesome bro.
reminds me of Captain Slow.
If by beater you mean that it will beat the shit out of everything that gets in its way, you're damn right.
These are by far my favorite videos! You guys are the best and entertaining and making the best quality videos. Please make more old vs new Lexus videos!
Gotta love these guys. We get comedy, cars, and an education lesson in acronym and backronym all in one video lol🤣🤣🤣 keep it up guys
I have an 04 Sequoia with the 4.7 and it’s coming up on 300,000 miles of faithful service. The newer stuff has more tech and probably better economy but my “Landcrab” has yet to let me down so I’ll keep running it until the wheels fall off.
Always enjoy these comparisons
If that LX470 is a “beater” than I am questioning my entire life.
I love your videos and the intros are always a little treat at the start, and this one made me actually laugh out loud, brilliant works guys!
Two million subscribers is just around the corner. Congratulations mates!
wow already threw in the Will Smith Oscar’s joke.lol The older LX was actually a Toyota Landcruiser Cygnus in Japan -when they didn’t have the Lexus brand yet.
My 03 Sequoia just keeps on going, I am a preventative maintenance freak and there are times I wonder how long can it go. Turns twenty in November, last oil analysis stated all is normal. Now my Audi on the other hand🤬
you guys have the best intros on TH-cam .. you always make me laugh
Anyone else notice its a Baldie in Ontario at the start of the vid; very rare these days, but they're making a slow comeback in the province. Nice shot!!
So fun to see another LX470 in Ontario. I appreciated the defense of the 100… I love it equally. I too have large BFG A\T tires (which throw the speed and odometer by 7% btw). And my AHC still works (🤞🏻)! Incidentally, there’s a dash button that manually extends and retracts the antenna to any desired height (for off-road driving). Also, this is spot on…. I throw lots of money to keep this thing in tip-top shape and intend to drive it for 20 more years.
My RX300 from 1998 still runs well despite the years just gotta love Toyota
Yesss! Finally , really do enjoy the old vs new series and it's been awhile
The real question is, who's Jenn?
I had a 2004 LX 470 for a bit over 10 years, put on 450,000 miles (bought it brand new), fixed several things but never let me down. I traded in on that mileage still running exceptionally good, great truck. That one you showed there was beat up with a lot less mileage than mine.
Nobody does it like you guys appreciate the content 💯
Bruhhhh that intro.. I'm in tears
My daily is a rust free 2005 LX470 with 284K on the odo. The only thing that's playing up is the speedo, everything single thing else on it is perfect. In the 70K miles I've owned it I did the timing belt and replaced a bad alternator. That's it (besides consumables). I've taken it legit off roading, camping to the boondocks and everything in between. It's the best vehicles I've ever owned. They really don't make them like that anymore. Oh, and the AHC works like a champ and spoils you. Get on a really bumpy dirt road and click it over to soft, smooth as butter. Need a little lift? Put AHC in High and you have a 2 inch lift. What's not to love?
I've got a 2001 LX470 with 253k miles/410k km that I absolutely love. I paid $8,000 for it. It's rusty and has a broken mirror and rips on the seats and stains on the carpet. It's taken us up mountains and through deserts and over rivers, to dozens of campsites. We're shopping for a LX570 to replace it, but only because of the rust that's accumulated - it's been solid and reliable for us for 4 years.
I feel you guys just get funnier over time.
Would've loved to see a comparison of them both driving off-road, similar to the 4Runner video.
Ok, the Germans and Range Rovers are basically throwaway after the warranty ends, the LX would be my pick for the long run.
How do these guys consistently create the best/funniest intros? Damn!
The point of the title is made yet having a 17k plus vehicle listed as a beater could be a stretch. This means the boys are making money and going to be doing more super cars, letssss goooooo!
I'd rather have my current 2000 LX470 over this new one. Dark grey 289K, AHC suspension works great, 275/65/18 Cooper ATP. Ironman bumper and 12k winch. etc. I bought it for 13,500 USD, total with upgrades im in it for about 19K. Doug Thorley headers, Maganaflow exhaust, DBA rotors and pads, new coils, plugs, Apple car play, Pioneer touch screen, etc etc. I love it.
How did you do an aftermarket screen for car play? That’s my major gripe on our ‘02, that and the fact I don’t have headers.
@emeeul the head unit is an aftermarket Pioneer touch screen with the apple car play Bluetooth. External handheld wired into head unit. Was already like that when I bought it, not two different screens,
I think it looks good and has a lot of road presence. It’s not meant to be considered a full time off reader, but a luxury vehicle that you know will work really well even if you did take it off-road.
I loveeee those older models. Still looks good today and they really live up to their strong rep.
I dont think new cars will last because the technology is integral to their basic functions and once the electrical systems fail the car is junked. Older cars have tech that fails but its just loss of convenience.
I just can't do that.
I have a 2014 LX 570 with 77k. We drove through the Mojave trail summer time, and on Shafer Trail through a winter storm. The LX got us through all of them safely and comfortably.
I think a lot of people forgets that the Sequoia has a multi link independent rear suspension, and not the LX live axle with coil spring. Ride quality alone, I think it could match the Lexus at a much lower price.
Old sequoia utilized multi link independent rear suspension, new sequoia use a live axle now.
@@dariuskila huh, wouldn’t that mean Toyota is intentionally putting their car at a disadvantage? Practically all of the Sequoia main competition already have IRS at this point
@@ricebox1178 that was my thought at first, but if you look online, it’ll show. Look at the 3rd row legroom in the new sequoia, that was regressive instead of progressive. The hybrid battery is also packed under there as well, but my guess is as good as yours as to why they’ve a step backwards.
You're opening scenes are always great but this is one of my favs
If anyone is seriously thinking of getting an older LX, as I was, I suggest you look at the LX570, they started making them in 2007 and the 2007-2011 model is still good but the 2012-2015 facelift/update was a big one and that's the one I decided to go for as it had the best combination of luxury, design, modernity and price/value.
I've got a 2004 LS430 and I've found that once accustomed to Lexus craftsmanship, quality, reliability and thoughtfulness of design it's very hard to be satisfied or impressed by anything else. However I am, at heart, a convertible guy, so over the years I've test driven various year models & specifications of the SC430, about 4 different times at different dealerships hoping I'd find a version satisfying enough to finally trade in and buy, unfortunately that never occurred. *However* whilst at a dealership looking at an SC430 I saw a 2012 LX570 which I took out for a test, and then a couple more tests at different dealerships and they were all excellent. I had long admired the LX570 in traffic as the rear is tall, wide & flat with 2 huge light clusters, not at all swoopy or sporty, and the side profile is similarly flat and vast, with long straight lines meeting at sharp angles, it looks both refined and uniquely imposing, especially in all 6 layers of Lexus' gorgeous Pearl White paint, which makes it look like Apple joined on with Lexus to design a dictator's personal APC.
And I can attest that is also pretty much how you feel whilst driving one, like you're a leader of nations riding around in something bespoke, perpetually looking down upon those you encounter in traffic, able to see what's happening not 2 or 3 but 6 or 7 vehicles ahead letting you efficiently avoid slow drivers and any slow downs.
And the vehicle's power matches this grandiosity, with an enormous 5.7L V8 making 380hp with a beautiful smooth power profile. That engine is a sophisticated modern relic, the sort manufacturers will never make again. And whilst it's already quick and powerful if you're so inclined you can even purchase Toyota Racing Development's bespoke Supercharger Kit and ECU for that engine. Which then gives it a bit over 500hp and 55lb ft of torque. Giving it an incredible amount of power, Super Car type acceleration, 0-100 in the low 4's, except you're in an enormous SUV. Additionally the interior design is much more modern than the 2007-2011 models, with more metal switches and knobs plus metallic coloured plastics, giving it a real point of differentiation internally compared to the first gen models.
In 2015 they did a major overhaul which used the same platform but beside that the exterior and interior were all in effect brand new barring a couple of panels, they introduced the huge spindle grille that year too. Personally I think the LX570 lost it's character with that update, no longer imposing it looked modern, slick and frankly generic.
I came close to getting a 2012 model, even did a few tests but I had to go over season for business for a 18 months and I returned just in time for Covid so I'm still in my ancient LS430. But if you're after an older LX go look at the 2012 and make sure you study the differences between the various updates/facelifts, they make a big difference.
Intro is so correct
LX is not a GLS competitor, it's more like a G class competitor
No way, G class is smaller but quite a bit more expensive. GLS on the other hand is basically the same size, a more modern technology and more luxurious, but I guess less off-road capability. 🙃
@@dimaroscadallacqua9926 The GLS also breaks within 40K miles.
@@RAZGR1Z I bet you never owned a well cared for Benz
You are correct. The LX is special like a G Wagon.
@@RAZGR1Z That’s so not true, if you care and maintain the car then is going to last. Here in the United States I’ve been able to see Mercedes with more than 300k miles.
Would love to see a second Gen MDX vs a new one. On paper, the older MDX has the newer one beat in almost every respect (except for fuel economy)
Please explain how the second gen MDX has the "newer one beat."
I think the generation 1 version would be a cooler comparison. My 06 just keeps on driving. The reliability is awesome.
People are criticising the BMW grill.
Toyota: hold my beer.
SLAPS. Well played.
I love these comparison videos!
4:51 James blending in with the interior 😂
Toyota screwed the pooch by selling LX’s against LC’s at commensurate price points. Then they wondered why so few purchased LC’s. If they kept the LC as a more affordable blue collar truck and the LX as the luxo mall crawler, it would have made more sense. 4Runners and Sequoias are nice, but a Land Cruiser they are not.
Biggest adjustment I had to make when I got my 04 LX 470 it floats compared to my Golf R and I love it. They both do their things well
I am going to watch, as I love these guys, but I wish they would of compared the new to an excellent condition used LX470 and not a beater version
**would’ve
Yes - I guess they were trying to show just how much more sophisticated that a Luxury Flagship has become inside of 2 decades
SO Expensive!!
$152,000 ish?
Would rather have a Porsche Macan for 85-90 ooo ish - and do something else w the other 50-60 thousand
but then every 4 years you have to ditch the Macan for a newer one.
I'd rather have the beater
You guys put so much thought into making the best intro's!
The sound of him stomping on the pedal 😆
Got my GX470 for 6300 cad. NO OTHER VEHICLE FOR ME BABY. Love that thing