My old man always used to tell me, "if you couldn't afford to buy it new, you probably can't afford to run it second hand." Good advice that I chose to ignore on a bunch of occasions
I have a Range Rover P38 (1995-2001), the last with a Rover V8 engine, and a body on frame setup. I've had it for nearly 3 years now, but had not put many miles on it because it's been busy collecting dust between different mechanics and shops, I still love the way it looks, but it's been a one way love thus far.
I bought a supercharged (400hp) L322, 2005 for £3995 from a private seller. Pristine condition, like new. Sure, it's old, but you still feel like the King of the Road and it is a magnificent car. Such a joy to drive. Last service only needed new brake pads. You just need to shop around for the best ones.
As the addict/owner of multiple older Land Rovers/Range Rovers, this video couldn't be more spot on. The online forums are more of a support group..we sadly know what we're getting in to but can't stop. The good news is they depreciate as if they're falling out of an airplane..deals everywhere! :)
My father used to love an XJ6 but couldn’t afford it. Do you think it a good idea for me to get one used and have it restored from some mechanic for my father’s next birthday? I just don’t know how much it could cost me on top of the used car price and thus haven’t pulled the trigger.
@@agnesf2659 If you have the means that sounds like an absolutely wonderful gift. Hell, if your dad's a car guy he might even appreciate you getting him on the restoration process
This is bordering on the perfect car review. Funny, completely factual, without bias and with talented commentary throughout. Thoroughly, throughly enjoyable from start to finsih. Well done fellas.
This video has the same vibe as that episode from The Grand Tour where Jeremy, James and Richard try and defend the Jags and say all the nice things about them despite failing miserably. Love your work guys !!!
How about the oldish Top Gear episode where Jeremy got a Range Rover to drive across South America, and it made it whereas the Land Cruiser Hammond brought kept breaking down?
@Utkarsh Dharmadhikari By following trades do you mean copying her trades,as its done in etoro? Are you giving her your money or the money stays on your account? I have heard about copying trades but have not looked into it but I have an idea of what it is.
@Utkarsh Dharmadhikari I'm glad you advised to look her name online to see her portfolio,this is very important, making your own research is very essential. Thank you so much.
My brother has a white Range Rover in his garage. With an engine on the side because the original engine blew. It looks great in the garage though, like a life size paperweight.
@@LorenzoCalgaryRealtor OK so here are the details it is actually a white Land Rover discovery with blown rings 4.0L and the engine that’s going in is from a 1995 Range Rover 4.2L.
@@CruiseControl1 yea, that makes way more sense the old buick V8 used in the 90's and 2000's were known for headgasket failure, then piston liners slipping. Disco's, RR, all had it . If you could keep the cooling system functional, they were otherwise pretty good tho. Top hat rebuild is the only way to truly resolve the issue after you've had a severe overheat or find a different powerplant like an LS swap. The Jag 4.4 used on the 2006-2009 models LR3, RR Sport and RR are actually quite reliable and are known to easily go 200k miles plus without issue. The 2010's and up got the 5.0 plagued with timing chain guide failure. I'd personally avoid those. The new ones sure look sweet but getting quite complicated and expensive for my tastes. Earlier Land Rover vehicles while require more attention and maintenance than a Toyota are actually very, very nice vehicles and capable off road too.
@@WranglermanLevi yes, the jaguar 4.2 variants in the range rovers are actually amazing engines, you see those engines in cars with well over 200k all the time.
I’ve put over 100k miles on my 2010 Autobiography and still absolutely love it. Bought it in 2017 with 100k and just turned over 200k. So many features and comforts that people are still surprised existed back then. Digital gauge cluster, radar cruise control, blindspot monitoring, heated/cooled front and rear seats, reclining rear seats, 5 cameras, leather headliner, the list goes on. And it comes with classic Range Rover styling that was partially lost starting with the L405.
I must ask about your maintenance experience with your autobiography, I've seen the older versions and the sport models for really good money considering all the equipment they come with
@@12pagani I put a decent amount of money into maintenance shortly after I bought it, which has made the rest of my ownership a lot less worrisome. I did the timing chains, variators, water pump, all injectors, plugs and everything to get the engine sealed back up about 6 months after I bought it. 2 air suspension compressors, alternator, fan clutch, transmission filter along with other smaller repairs over the years. All fluids changed many times over. I’m the second owner and the original owner maintained it through the dealer up until I bought it. I do all the work myself and that’s the only way to own these. No way I would have paid what the dealer wanted for some of these repairs. A Gap iiD tool is a must as well if you plan to work on it yourself.
@@Sasasala386 from my workshop alone we replace and sell long bare 3L turbo engines the most that are in discoveries and the sports and we probable sell close to 150 of them a year not a good statistic and thats just one engine they sell in their range. And they legitimately snap the crank In half.
@@Sasasala386 its usually run away, bad injectors, bad turbo or low oil pressure. its usually a snapped crank or a spun bearing I haven't seen many throw a rod through the block but I have seen them. its also because of the bi sequential turbo setup the 2.7L engine which I have is way better single big turbo mine is 2006 tuned in the engine and gearbox and goes better than the new 2022 3L setups
The 2010-2012 L322 is my favorite gen Range Rover. I just love the more boxy shape, and it still felt like a luxury utilitarian vehicle. The new ones just feel luxurious.
Love how laid back the reviews are, like two everyday car enthusiasts (most of us feel we fit in this category, so we can totally relate) having a chat about a car they’ve just acquired. Love your channel!
You guys just keep getting funnier and funnier! Never thought I could be so entertained by car reviews but you’ve proved me wrong over and over. “I have friends like that” lol
Both entertaining & informative, thank you guys ! I'm able to identify with what was said for the HSE as i have a first generation 2009 BMW X6 myself. Everything being as fair as they are, if one makes the effort to maintain both the mechanical & aesthetics of the vehicle, albeit & especially the older models, they'll deliver the joy of driving & motoring much more than ever one might expect.
That checklist of things to look over before buying actually seems like solid advice no matter the vehicle. I look over most of those no matter what kind of vehicle I'm thinking of buying and keep a checklist of about a hundred things to check whenever I need to purchase or help someone purchase a vehicle. It takes at least an hour to examine one properly, unless it's new of course. Who wouldn't check things like the radio, steering, shift smoothness, seats, oil quality, and windows before buying a vehicle, whether a Land Rover, Ford, Toyota, or Holden? It's a big purchase, and it's good to know what works and what doesn't to help make a decision on whether or not it's worth buying. A lot of people will just assume "Oh, it's a Toyota/Honda, so everything must work because nothing goes wrong with them." Yes, I have actually heard people say that. One I know even went and bought a twelve-year-old Toyota 4Runner just because it ran so, therefore, it must be good because. . . Toyota, right? It died a horrible death on the side of the road a little over a year and many repairs later. He drives a fourteen-year-old Lincoln SUV now, and it's been much, much, much more reliable. Four years and hasn't broken anything yet, despite being used the same way.
I have a Jag F-Type that's thankfully relatively reliable, and I have a shop that I go to for maintenance, a shop specifically working on British marques. Whenever I go, I always see a ton of Land Rovers, outnumbering any other car there 9 to 1. I ask the shop owner what's with the disparity, and he says, in his words, "These Land Rovers spend more time at my shop than in their owners' garages." He's just calling it as he saw it.
Just a fact of life. My dad had a disco for 10 years and I think it needed repairs every other week. No idea how he had the patience but it just became like the screw up younger son who’s in an out of rehab but the parents never give up on 👁👄👁
Genuinely, the writing/dialogue on your videos is slicker and funnier than any other car reviewers - minimalist design to not stand-out to the lower classes is just hilarious!
I’ve always loved the L322, personally my favorite Range Rover generation, even though it’s arguably the most problematic, in Ireland I still see tons of them on the road and even being used off road as much as I see them being used as grocery getters, they are addictive vehicles, I can’t imagine myself even looking at any of its competitors.
@@papagen00 many would disagree, such a strong following for the L322 exits a lot because of its looks, however the interior id agree is on the dated side, but it’s still quite a nice place to be.
@@papagen00 ppl think e46’s look dated but it’s widely agreed they still look good. This is a similar situation, your an outliner. This gen is a very handsome suv, much better than the new one.
Ok I hate commenting on videos but here it is. I am genuinely entertained by you guys. I love watching car shows and has been a car review guy since I was a kid. Some of the jokes you guys make are hilarious and clever. Congratulations on reaching the level appropriately being entertaining while reviewing the car appropriately. I obviously cannot say you guys are close to Top Gear or any of the other TV shows because they have huge budgets but appropriately so you guys are just as entertaining.
I remember when the last gen RR (the one in between these two shown in the video) first came out, I went to see it at the car show in Toronto. As I sat in the SUV the first thing the sales told me, with such pride, is "It's all leather, 17 cows died for this car." Then went on to say the upholstery in the non-autobiography version is not leather, therefore only 14 cows. How times have changed!
I saw the L405 when it came out also. I couldn’t help but notice how cheap the door close felt. And the door handle. And the screens were EXTREMELY SLOW and laggy.
@@roshanprabu You want a future with completely silent cars with dependence on government power grid, slow charging, and complete tracking and remote shutdown capability? Careful what you wish for, might come true.
I have a supercharge 5.0 2018 and it’s been nothing but wonderful. Loads of power and Lux. I did have an issue with the front right air bag but it’s been resolved and the car has been great ever since. Best all around suv you can purchase.
I really loved this one. It was so calm and laid back. Kinda like watching two friends drive about discussing their new cars. The 30 minutes didn't even feel like 30 minutes. Great episode guys!
I’ve been watching your reviews for a couple months as I’m looking for a new car. Your reviews are great and your humor (yes I’m in America) is awesome.
I definitely loved your video and definitely end notes you really get the new with the old because of you and your taste and tolerance for the unknown based on your ability to afford it if the what if applies. Thanks for all that you guys do 😜
I owned an '07 Land Rover and it nearly nickel-and-dimed me to death, worst of was the "Three Amigos" engine failure. It was one single device that managed the ABS brakes,traction control and hill descent. Plus a dozen other little things. I swear I (eventually) put as much into keeping it running as I did buying it. Not to mention it was designed for a much smaller person.
You guys are wild, your videos are unique in every way and your sarcasm is on other level. I started watching you guys since you had less than 78k subscribers, and look at you now with the 2 million subscribers. I hope you continue to succeed and surpass 10 million subscribers.
I owned a 2012 SC Range Rover and it'll probably be the greatest vehicle I have or will ever own. Just watching this changes how my blood feels as I miss it deeply. If you know, you know. As I was reading when I purchases and other owners had their issues, they said how much it broke down n yada, but they would still do it all over again. The last of the true Range Rovers with it classic boxey recognisable design. Man, it was absolute love....although offroading this beast with 20 inch wheels...ehhh. lol I can't tell you how desperately I miss it. Long live the L322, it was the greatest they have or will ever make.
@@JakeSoulFreeTravels yeah I did research and found one that previous owner had records showing the servicing it received( though it has a rebranded title due to theft )…& that gave me the confidence to purchase
this vid made me so happy because I have a 2010 hse and it has 176,000 miles and feels strong still. Considering I've raced it and been off-roading. Love yall.
There’s just something about that older RR that just calls to me even knowing its reliability sucks, I really want one - somebody please make it stop 🥴😩
My 2011 sport lux stresses me out and general repairs are definitely expensive but having said that,I’m so in love with my RR. It’s 100% worth it. Amazing driving experience, beautiful vehicle
Guys... Cammisa said on yesterday's Carmudgeon that he wants to bring you guys out to California to race Kei cars on a go-kart track. DO IT. Your viewers deserve that video.
My dad bought a 2022 evoque and I told him half jokingly that it’d be in the shop in a month. Three weeks later it had to go in for a suspension issue…
My 2011 LR2 was the best vehicle I’ve ever owned. 212,000 miles with minimal issues and plenty of off-road fun in the upper Midwest with my friends and their mud trucks. I cried when I totaled it hitting a deer at 70mph 😢
@@Curseysasuke in-line six Volvo engine is bulletproof. Super charger is just adding pieces that are not really needed but can be nice for City driving. If it has a sunroof make sure to check it for water damage around the corners especially if the vehicles been outside a lot in the last five years.
I always love these episodes seeing the progression or stagnation and how in or out of touch brands are. One episode that should be done is Cayenne Turbo/s old vs new.
im not a huge range rover fan. I do like how they ride tho ( insert old man memes here ) drove my boss's 2019 one a year ago and it was amazing ride and comfort wise.
As a 2002 P38 RR owner, this is spot on. You got to love it, because there will be a lot to fix. However my truck has over 225k miles and going strong (and not with the original engine...)
I went through all of these thought processes back in January when I was looking for my current daily (2010 Range Rover HSE). Looked at the forums, personally talked with people who owned them, and even test drove them. I also was cross-shopping 1997-2007 Lexus LX’s and GX’s and test drove those too. The Lexus’s were the safe but boring choice, and also had some higher wear and a lot of deferred maintenance. The Range Rover I ended up buying was newer, had much better materials and quality, drove and rode WAY better, and just felt special to a degree Toyota could never match. Seven months later and I’m still very happy with my purchase. It’s not perfect, and I have had to do some maintenance on it. But it’s not maintenance I wouldn’t do on any other car. Find a good indie shop and you’ll be fine.
Absolutely agree with you. I've had a few different cars in the past couple years, mostly performance cars because speed is fun, but I never loved them as much as I love this car (well except for my 2008 Boxster S). It just drives so well, feels special, and makes me feel like James Bond where I could save the world and look good doing it too. I went with a 2008 Supercharged with the 4.2L. The thought of the 5.0 timing chain slapping and absolutely grenading the valve train would be just too much for me to handle, both mentally and financially. The older Jag units are pretty strong, with some minor here and there stuff. However, one thing that amazes me about this car is the community support (misery loves company?) and knowledge. I'd say it ranks up there with the Porsche crowd. Now, with the leather cladded elephant in the room, they're actually not unreliable if you find the right one. The Range Rover game is all about preventative maintenance, changing the oils every 5000 miles, changing the transmission and dif fluids every 50-60k miles, etc. If you do the proper preventative stuff, they're pretty solid. It's when there's a weird ticking noise, or you let the air suspension compressor just run all the time, then things get super expensive real quick, but if you can turn your own wrench and do the maintenance on them, they're not too horribly expensive or unreliable.
agree, this was me except in the lexus and jag sports car segment, same engine. the jaguar v8s have proved to be very reliable, have put 10k miles in under a year on mine and only needed an alternator and oil change. both our xk8 and xk have had some preventitive maintenance done however, the 4.0 needed its chains and thermostat, the 4.2 needed the thermostat, hoses for good measure also. a little preventative maintenance makes these cars bulletproof. knock on wood as always (theres a good amount in both of them so i should be good)
The hardest part of a Land Rover is just keeping them running. It will either frustrate you or bankrupt you but as they age, you’re no longer going to have a pleasant experience.
WITHOUT A DOUBT the single best car show out there on ANY platform. Keep up the good work guys - the time and effort into the production quality shows. Thank you!
My father has had 3 range rovers and I can confirm their unreliablity. Gone through head gaskets on 2, a transmissions, 2 sets of air suspension, 2 radiators
Just bought a 1012 Autobiography yesterday having listened to real wold experiences from log term users and having done well over 200,000 miles in contemporary Jags (last was the 4.2 supercharged V8 which has never had a single issue up to 170,000 miles on the engine) with no issues at all with regular maintenance - and that includes trips around the Nurburgring and Oulton Park (the last 2004 Jag needs new sills so I'm deciding what to do with it - the rest is as good as new - which still amazes me). This Range Rover looks pretty spectacular and I'm just expecting reasonably expensive maintenance as on any luxury/performance car ...so lets see how this goes. My real world experience means I'm relaxed and looking forward to not only only fun on the road, but using it as the world's largest lawnmower with a flail mower in my backyard ... luxury and mud plugging - that's what these are about ☺
Always great to see your comparison videos but I personally think that for this test, a better comparison would have been the earlier model of the generation that followed. Just to put into perspective as to whether you need this more refined version of the same shape. The newer one is similar to like iPhone 12 Pro compared to the 13 Pro. Both are similar looking but a few differences apart. Though the prices are way different. It is more like whether you want the yesteryear flagship or todays one.
The interior of this car is stunning. It has stood the test of time so well. And you can replace the main screen with OEM looking car play units which completely renew the tech feel and usability of the car. I’d happily put up with the maintenance on one. Gorgeous car.
2010s Range Rovers were at the peak of its design that stayed true to its original design heritage that I feel gets lost with the newer models and I think that's why so many people still want to take a chance at owning one. I loved the boxy utilitarian look of its profile that still maintains a certain prestige and elegance while the rounded version is just giving me vibes of a early 2000s Ford Expedition. Everything else about it is beautiful and the interior is stunning, I just really dislike that they decided to go this direction for the exterior.
Remember a short period when Jeremy and the boys had the correct balance of car review vs comedic entertainment … and then they got too silly?! These guys have it figured out. Amazing content. Thank you gents.
True story. I know a guy with a 2021 diesel Landrover Discovery. A warning light came up, he got it checked, they reassured him that everything is OK. A week later he took his family in that car for a skiing holiday from Ireland to France. The holiday cost him an extra €15,000 when the car broke down in France.
I have a 5.0 Supercharged L322. It has over 230km. It’s definitely British motoring at its finest, meaning it’s great when it works, but it’s not without its minor reliability issues. Also, I think the L322 in this video is not a real Autobiography Ultimate, just badges as such. It’s a fully optioned HSE. The Autobiography ultimate had leather headlining and teakwood trunk and leather door cards and it’s a very very very rare car.
I had a 2012 L322 ATB and those badges are definitely aftermarket, though still a nice vehicle. That tan interior is brutal though, but you can get those cheaper.
I've had an 06 range rover supercharged for years that has literally never had anything go wrong with the engine ... now the air suspension on the other hand😂
I have a 2007 supercharged Overfinch Range Rover, just passed 70k miles. It has been super reliable and bulletproof. It all comes down to maintenance and being cheap on maintenance cost. I love the new one, it would be a great addition to the garage next to the old one! 😛
My dad has always wanted a Range Rover. A few years back, when he turned 55, he was dead set on buying one. He had had a huge promotion at work, there were no big expenses coming, it was the right time to go out and buy one. We couldn't find one affordable enough. The prices are insane! And there were no units available either. When you got to their official website, they had like 3 actual used ones on sale, and that was about it. After that, he rented one on a trip, and he wasn't impressed. We started a business with the money instead.
I just hope somewhere in a land far far away...James, Richard and Jeremy see this video and nod in approval that the world of car enthusiast is in good hands for the next generation. (and maybe someday we are blessed with a crossover episode)
Range Rovers are surprisingly robust! I seem them go through potholes and dirty car parks often at the hands of valets. I even saw one go over a curb at the organic foods collective!
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My old man always used to tell me, "if you couldn't afford to buy it new, you probably can't afford to run it second hand."
Good advice that I chose to ignore on a bunch of occasions
I can’t afford to buy any new car so take that
Just because you can buy it, doesn't mean you can afford it!
100% my old man used to say, you can't afford the range rover, Porsche or Ferrari if you have to ask how many mpg it does.
@@scott8934 🤣
That's just not true car that was 40k new, might cost 15k in 10 years, it won't cost 25k to maintain.
god PLEASE never change your humor, as well as your honesty and unbiased opinions in your reviews. love it.
I thought it said "Please change" 😂
@@wheres7183 same
Unbiased hahaha
I have a Range Rover P38 (1995-2001), the last with a Rover V8 engine, and a body on frame setup. I've had it for nearly 3 years now, but had not put many miles on it because it's been busy collecting dust between different mechanics and shops, I still love the way it looks, but it's been a one way love thus far.
I bought a supercharged (400hp) L322, 2005 for £3995 from a private seller. Pristine condition, like new. Sure, it's old, but you still feel like the King of the Road and it is a magnificent car. Such a joy to drive. Last service only needed new brake pads. You just need to shop around for the best ones.
As the addict/owner of multiple older Land Rovers/Range Rovers, this video couldn't be more spot on. The online forums are more of a support group..we sadly know what we're getting in to but can't stop. The good news is they depreciate as if they're falling out of an airplane..deals everywhere! :)
My father used to love an XJ6 but couldn’t afford it. Do you think it a good idea for me to get one used and have it restored from some mechanic for my father’s next birthday?
I just don’t know how much it could cost me on top of the used car price and thus haven’t pulled the trigger.
@@agnesf2659 absolutely do it
Sounds like BMW forums, especially for older models lol
This is hilarious
@@agnesf2659 If you have the means that sounds like an absolutely wonderful gift. Hell, if your dad's a car guy he might even appreciate you getting him on the restoration process
The interior of the older one is still magnificent, especially with the seat piping.
Yes. Cannot believe they lost the piping in the new one
@@amal6419 I mean the higher trims have multicolored seats with all sorts of cool detailing now
This is bordering on the perfect car review. Funny, completely factual, without bias and with talented commentary throughout. Thoroughly, throughly enjoyable from start to finsih. Well done fellas.
Well that's crap
The L322 to get is the 2006-2009 model with the 4.2 that doesn't suffer from the timing chain guides issue. Mine is going to hit 300,000km soon.
and you have one for sale ;)
This video has the same vibe as that episode from The Grand Tour where Jeremy, James and Richard try and defend the Jags and say all the nice things about them despite failing miserably.
Love your work guys !!!
How about the oldish Top Gear episode where Jeremy got a Range Rover to drive across South America, and it made it whereas the Land Cruiser Hammond brought kept breaking down?
These two guys are way more entertaining and trustworthy than the three clowns in TopGear!
@@jesperhald3969 nah
@@jesperhald3969 nah
I agree, trying testing out off road.
These guys are living the life and I'm here to witness it. Love these longer more laid back and thorough videos.
@Utkarsh Dharmadhikari By following trades do you mean copying her trades,as its done in etoro? Are you giving her your money or the money stays on your account? I have heard about copying trades but have not looked into it but I have an idea of what it is.
@Utkarsh Dharmadhikari I'm glad you advised to look her name online to see her portfolio,this is very important, making your own research is very essential. Thank you so much.
Exactly, money is always eager and ready to work for anyone who is ready to employ it.
Just a non scam-bot here, don't mind me 👀
Longer videos from them are great
I let out a laugh so loud with the “Michael Caine” joke 😂 These guys are great
Same! Best part of the video
I had a lot of fun with the intro. Thank you guys for your classy work, hopa you will be keeping This format for a long time
James had me dying when he said “you can’t notice the taillights until their lit; I have friends like that” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I didn't get it
They will not notice the problems unless their ass is on fire.
Means he has some friends that you don't notice them or they have low key personalities until they get drunk and loud lol
@@unphazd5137 Yeah
Hahaha!
James is really cracking some good jokes in this one 😂
You don't notice them until they're lit. I've got friends like that. off the cuff.
Michael Cane…..rofl.
@@demon1spence you can see by the reaction that that line definitely was off script :D
@@kraenk12 The way he said it, sounded like "my cocaine". Unless that went over my head, it's a good use for a mirror lol
I worked in Land Rover service for six years and I can definitely say. When they work , there’s no better:)
Top notch production, guys.... Truly a spiritual successor to TG, with excellent humor and fun thrown in. Keep it up, we'll keep watching ;)
My brother has a white Range Rover in his garage. With an engine on the side because the original engine blew. It looks great in the garage though, like a life size paperweight.
Which motor ?
@@LorenzoCalgaryRealtor OK so here are the details it is actually a white Land Rover discovery with blown rings 4.0L and the engine that’s going in is from a 1995 Range Rover 4.2L.
@@CruiseControl1 what year is it
@@CruiseControl1 yea, that makes way more sense the old buick V8 used in the 90's and 2000's were known for headgasket failure, then piston liners slipping. Disco's, RR, all had it . If you could keep the cooling system functional, they were otherwise pretty good tho. Top hat rebuild is the only way to truly resolve the issue after you've had a severe overheat or find a different powerplant like an LS swap. The Jag 4.4 used on the 2006-2009 models LR3, RR Sport and RR are actually quite reliable and are known to easily go 200k miles plus without issue. The 2010's and up got the 5.0 plagued with timing chain guide failure. I'd personally avoid those. The new ones sure look sweet but getting quite complicated and expensive for my tastes. Earlier Land Rover vehicles while require more attention and maintenance than a Toyota are actually very, very nice vehicles and capable off road too.
@@WranglermanLevi yes, the jaguar 4.2 variants in the range rovers are actually amazing engines, you see those engines in cars with well over 200k all the time.
I’ve put over 100k miles on my 2010 Autobiography and still absolutely love it. Bought it in 2017 with 100k and just turned over 200k. So many features and comforts that people are still surprised existed back then. Digital gauge cluster, radar cruise control, blindspot monitoring, heated/cooled front and rear seats, reclining rear seats, 5 cameras, leather headliner, the list goes on. And it comes with classic Range Rover styling that was partially lost starting with the L405.
That reads like an ad you'd see on AutoTrader 😁
@@qazzaq8763 well, I used to do automotive consulting so…
I must ask about your maintenance experience with your autobiography, I've seen the older versions and the sport models for really good money considering all the equipment they come with
@@12pagani I put a decent amount of money into maintenance shortly after I bought it, which has made the rest of my ownership a lot less worrisome. I did the timing chains, variators, water pump, all injectors, plugs and everything to get the engine sealed back up about 6 months after I bought it. 2 air suspension compressors, alternator, fan clutch, transmission filter along with other smaller repairs over the years. All fluids changed many times over. I’m the second owner and the original owner maintained it through the dealer up until I bought it. I do all the work myself and that’s the only way to own these. No way I would have paid what the dealer wanted for some of these repairs. A Gap iiD tool is a must as well if you plan to work on it yourself.
You left out the part that you’re living in it now 😂 lol jk glad yours has treated you well
I'm a land rover mechanic and can confirm they blow up all the time, even the new ones have a lot of problems but they are nice when they are working.
They are a joke here in Brasil, there's not a single car workshop that deals with high end car's that don't have a rover with a blown turbo in it.
@@Sasasala386 from my workshop alone we replace and sell long bare 3L turbo engines the most that are in discoveries and the sports and we probable sell close to 150 of them a year not a good statistic and thats just one engine they sell in their range. And they legitimately snap the crank In half.
@@jordanzlad I've heard it once don't know if it's true. They make too much power for parts that are not string enough to handle it.
@@Sasasala386 its usually run away, bad injectors, bad turbo or low oil pressure. its usually a snapped crank or a spun bearing I haven't seen many throw a rod through the block but I have seen them. its also because of the bi sequential turbo setup the 2.7L engine which I have is way better single big turbo mine is 2006 tuned in the engine and gearbox and goes better than the new 2022 3L setups
Unfathomable that such high quality content is free. Thank You!
The 2010-2012 L322 is my favorite gen Range Rover. I just love the more boxy shape, and it still felt like a luxury utilitarian vehicle. The new ones just feel luxurious.
Luxury you would never get to experience while it's at the shop
@@gidd only if you use your car like an animal, if you treat and drive your range rover with care you won't spend much
Agreed, the doors feel better when you close them. Don’t care for the soft close. Everything in general has better weight and feel in the l322
Lx 600 Lexus on 🔥 🔥 🔥
@@princep7348 you don't believe this
Love how laid back the reviews are, like two everyday car enthusiasts (most of us feel we fit in this category, so we can totally relate) having a chat about a car they’ve just acquired. Love your channel!
Your broken-down skit at the beginning got an immediate thumbs-up. THANK YOU GUYS.
Genuinely the best car channel on YT. I’m not even remotely a car expert, but this is just always fun to watch. ❤
You guys just keep getting funnier and funnier! Never thought I could be so entertained by car reviews but you’ve proved me wrong over and over. “I have friends like that” lol
We need a 2022 BMW M3 vs 1990 BMW M3 E30 comparison. Let's make it happen! Great video as always Thomas and James
unfortunately... you need a blindfold just to gaze upon the new M3 without seriously damaging your retinas
The difference is most of the old/new videos are about value. The E30 is not a good value.
@@theoneandonlybosable you are forgetting about the supra video.
@@theoneandonlybosable was just gonna say, the mk iv vs mk v video. Doesn't have to be cheap vs new. But new vs old.
@@Gooseman2k2 oh yea def agree 😂
Both entertaining & informative, thank you guys ! I'm able to identify with what was said for the HSE as i have a first generation 2009 BMW X6 myself. Everything being as fair as they are, if one makes the effort to maintain both the mechanical & aesthetics of the vehicle, albeit & especially the older models, they'll deliver the joy of driving & motoring much more than ever one might expect.
Throttle House reviews are so good, I keep coming back and watching all the new videos!
That checklist of things to look over before buying actually seems like solid advice no matter the vehicle. I look over most of those no matter what kind of vehicle I'm thinking of buying and keep a checklist of about a hundred things to check whenever I need to purchase or help someone purchase a vehicle. It takes at least an hour to examine one properly, unless it's new of course.
Who wouldn't check things like the radio, steering, shift smoothness, seats, oil quality, and windows before buying a vehicle, whether a Land Rover, Ford, Toyota, or Holden? It's a big purchase, and it's good to know what works and what doesn't to help make a decision on whether or not it's worth buying.
A lot of people will just assume "Oh, it's a Toyota/Honda, so everything must work because nothing goes wrong with them." Yes, I have actually heard people say that. One I know even went and bought a twelve-year-old Toyota 4Runner just because it ran so, therefore, it must be good because. . . Toyota, right? It died a horrible death on the side of the road a little over a year and many repairs later. He drives a fourteen-year-old Lincoln SUV now, and it's been much, much, much more reliable. Four years and hasn't broken anything yet, despite being used the same way.
2004 Holden Statesman to be exact ;-)
I have a Jag F-Type that's thankfully relatively reliable, and I have a shop that I go to for maintenance, a shop specifically working on British marques. Whenever I go, I always see a ton of Land Rovers, outnumbering any other car there 9 to 1. I ask the shop owner what's with the disparity, and he says, in his words, "These Land Rovers spend more time at my shop than in their owners' garages." He's just calling it as he saw it.
Just a fact of life. My dad had a disco for 10 years and I think it needed repairs every other week. No idea how he had the patience but it just became like the screw up younger son who’s in an out of rehab but the parents never give up on 👁👄👁
jag and Range Rover are about as British as butter chicken and chutney now.
Considering the price of these cars, its weird to see at least 15 of them per day.
Genuinely, the writing/dialogue on your videos is slicker and funnier than any other car reviewers - minimalist design to not stand-out to the lower classes is just hilarious!
Love how the first thing that shows up on old one when they turned it on after they talked about everything that could go wrong… “Service Required”
I’ve always loved the L322, personally my favorite Range Rover generation, even though it’s arguably the most problematic, in Ireland I still see tons of them on the road and even being used off road as much as I see them being used as grocery getters, they are addictive vehicles, I can’t imagine myself even looking at any of its competitors.
I think the L322 looks very dated now..
@@papagen00 many would disagree, such a strong following for the L322 exits a lot because of its looks, however the interior id agree is on the dated side, but it’s still quite a nice place to be.
I've had an L322 and a G Wagon. Much prefer the L322.
@@papagen00 ppl think e46’s look dated but it’s widely agreed they still look good. This is a similar situation, your an outliner. This gen is a very handsome suv, much better than the new one.
@@jaioncebollero1168 dated automatically doesn’t mean look bad. Bug veyron looks dated but still looks great + e46 is peak bmw design
Love this review guys. I worked 12 years for the Land Rover company in Solihull and I always LOVED the RR. Thanks!!!
Ok I hate commenting on videos but here it is. I am genuinely entertained by you guys. I love watching car shows and has been a car review guy since I was a kid. Some of the jokes you guys make are hilarious and clever. Congratulations on reaching the level appropriately being entertaining while reviewing the car appropriately. I obviously cannot say you guys are close to Top Gear or any of the other TV shows because they have huge budgets but appropriately so you guys are just as entertaining.
I remember when the last gen RR (the one in between these two shown in the video) first came out, I went to see it at the car show in Toronto. As I sat in the SUV the first thing the sales told me, with such pride, is "It's all leather, 17 cows died for this car." Then went on to say the upholstery in the non-autobiography version is not leather, therefore only 14 cows. How times have changed!
Rich people love sitting in blood of capitalism
@@PhilDaBank You make shit decisions in life now you are whining about people richer than you.
@@PhilDaBank nothing wrong with it. They were going to die anyways and people get paid so they can support themselves and their family
You get leather and steaks and burgers and bbq. That is a multitasking animal.
I saw the L405 when it came out also. I couldn’t help but notice how cheap the door close felt. And the door handle. And the screens were EXTREMELY SLOW and laggy.
Just because a Tesla is expensive, it doesn’t make it a luxury vehicle.
expense has to be in tandem with practicality
if it’s expensive because it’s gold plated, that makes it a luxury
@@Josh-oc7ib then Ford Maverick is ultimate luxury vehicle 🤣
Tesla looks horrible (especially X) and is boring as h*ll. Generic car of the "future" nobody really wants.
@@betterbeavailable "nobody wants" lmao
just because you have a bad taste dosen't mean its bad lol
@@roshanprabu You want a future with completely silent cars with dependence on government power grid, slow charging, and complete tracking and remote shutdown capability? Careful what you wish for, might come true.
I’m upset it ended. Then I realize it was a 30 minute video. You two give amazing commentary.
I have a supercharge 5.0 2018 and it’s been nothing but wonderful. Loads of power and Lux. I did have an issue with the front right air bag but it’s been resolved and the car has been great ever since. Best all around suv you can purchase.
I really loved this one. It was so calm and laid back. Kinda like watching two friends drive about discussing their new cars. The 30 minutes didn't even feel like 30 minutes. Great episode guys!
It was 30mins?? Wow did the realize
It was 30mins?? Wow did the realize
These old vs new comparison videos are my favorite format that you do and what absolutely hooked me on your content. Love it!
I’ve been watching your reviews for a couple months as I’m looking for a new car. Your reviews are great and your humor (yes I’m in America) is awesome.
My dad bought a 4.4 v8 range rover for 5k. Has so much technology and it actually is reliable.
Thomas and James are the perfect balance of humor and information and test drives.
That intro is so funny 😂👍👍
I definitely loved your video and definitely end notes you really get the new with the old because of you and your taste and tolerance for the unknown based on your ability to afford it if the what if applies.
Thanks for all that you guys do 😜
I owned an '07 Land Rover and it nearly nickel-and-dimed me to death, worst of was the "Three Amigos" engine failure. It was one single device that managed the ABS brakes,traction control and hill descent. Plus a dozen other little things. I swear I (eventually) put as much into keeping it running as I did buying it. Not to mention it was designed for a much smaller person.
You guys are wild, your videos are unique in every way and your sarcasm is on other level. I started watching you guys since you had less than 78k subscribers, and look at you now with the 2 million subscribers. I hope you continue to succeed and surpass 10 million subscribers.
I owned a 2012 SC Range Rover and it'll probably be the greatest vehicle I have or will ever own. Just watching this changes how my blood feels as I miss it deeply. If you know, you know. As I was reading when I purchases and other owners had their issues, they said how much it broke down n yada, but they would still do it all over again. The last of the true Range Rovers with it classic boxey recognisable design. Man, it was absolute love....although offroading this beast with 20 inch wheels...ehhh. lol I can't tell you how desperately I miss it. Long live the L322, it was the greatest they have or will ever make.
Agree. I just got into a 2013 Supercharged 5L V8 L320 Sport. Magnificent vehicle.
yes 4.2 and 5.0 sc is better.
I bought mine 18 months ago with 129k miles on it (2012 SC model). No breakage or unreliability and really enjoying it )
@@rivstg13 You have balls mate, or some deep pockets or got a rare find or did some crazy homework...
@@JakeSoulFreeTravels yeah I did research and found one that previous owner had records showing the servicing it received( though it has a rebranded title due to theft )…& that gave me the confidence to purchase
Where has this channel been all along....you just earned yourself a new subscriber 😁
Some of your best work. Keep it up.
this vid made me so happy because I have a 2010 hse and it has 176,000 miles and feels strong still. Considering I've raced it and been off-roading. Love yall.
Nicely balanced review chaps. I had a 4.4V8 diesel 2010 Range Rover for a couple of years and loved every minute of the 20k miles I did in it.
There’s just something about that older RR that just calls to me even knowing its reliability sucks, I really want one - somebody please make it stop 🥴😩
I’m in the same boat, the boxy look of it is what calls me but I get mixed reviews on them but still want to pull the trigger on one
My 2011 sport lux stresses me out and general repairs are definitely expensive but having said that,I’m so in love with my RR. It’s 100% worth it. Amazing driving experience, beautiful vehicle
“You don’t notice them until they’re lit. I have friends like that” 🤣🤣 Well done 👏🏾
Guys... Cammisa said on yesterday's Carmudgeon that he wants to bring you guys out to California to race Kei cars on a go-kart track. DO IT. Your viewers deserve that video.
My dad bought a 2022 evoque and I told him half jokingly that it’d be in the shop in a month. Three weeks later it had to go in for a suspension issue…
That's par for the course, my moms 2022 highlander had to go in for a wind noise with a bad design on a radiator bracket.
@@spicysnowman8886 yeah. Makes me happy to have a 2013 Corolla. Almost a decade old with the only flaw being the fact that it’s slow as hell
@@anthonywalters7434 I've got a 2008 bmw 328i, only had for about a month, but I love it.
@@spicysnowman8886 that’s awesome. Take good care of it. I’ve seen those things get built up very nicely into really fun project cars
@@anthonywalters7434 it's a manual too, so very fun, but I'll probably keep it relatively stock because it's my only car.
dude the way he says Yeah after breaking down ,It cracks me up every time
My 2011 LR2 was the best vehicle I’ve ever owned. 212,000 miles with minimal issues and plenty of off-road fun in the upper Midwest with my friends and their mud trucks. I cried when I totaled it hitting a deer at 70mph 😢
Looking into getting an 08-12 RR anything to look for? Is getting a supercharged one worth it or more problems?
@@Curseysasuke in-line six Volvo engine is bulletproof. Super charger is just adding pieces that are not really needed but can be nice for City driving. If it has a sunroof make sure to check it for water damage around the corners especially if the vehicles been outside a lot in the last five years.
That deer would have been fucked
Great looking SUV! It's amazing how Land Rover has made an unreliable SUV so iconic.
I always love these episodes seeing the progression or stagnation and how in or out of touch brands are. One episode that should be done is Cayenne Turbo/s old vs new.
thank you finally including DEPENDABILITY in you review, it should be in ALL YOUR VIDEOS .
im not a huge range rover fan. I do like how they ride tho ( insert old man memes here ) drove my boss's 2019 one a year ago and it was amazing ride and comfort wise.
As a 2002 P38 RR owner, this is spot on. You got to love it, because there will be a lot to fix. However my truck has over 225k miles and going strong (and not with the original engine...)
I went through all of these thought processes back in January when I was looking for my current daily (2010 Range Rover HSE). Looked at the forums, personally talked with people who owned them, and even test drove them. I also was cross-shopping 1997-2007 Lexus LX’s and GX’s and test drove those too. The Lexus’s were the safe but boring choice, and also had some higher wear and a lot of deferred maintenance. The Range Rover I ended up buying was newer, had much better materials and quality, drove and rode WAY better, and just felt special to a degree Toyota could never match.
Seven months later and I’m still very happy with my purchase. It’s not perfect, and I have had to do some maintenance on it. But it’s not maintenance I wouldn’t do on any other car. Find a good indie shop and you’ll be fine.
Absolutely agree with you. I've had a few different cars in the past couple years, mostly performance cars because speed is fun, but I never loved them as much as I love this car (well except for my 2008 Boxster S). It just drives so well, feels special, and makes me feel like James Bond where I could save the world and look good doing it too. I went with a 2008 Supercharged with the 4.2L. The thought of the 5.0 timing chain slapping and absolutely grenading the valve train would be just too much for me to handle, both mentally and financially. The older Jag units are pretty strong, with some minor here and there stuff. However, one thing that amazes me about this car is the community support (misery loves company?) and knowledge. I'd say it ranks up there with the Porsche crowd.
Now, with the leather cladded elephant in the room, they're actually not unreliable if you find the right one. The Range Rover game is all about preventative maintenance, changing the oils every 5000 miles, changing the transmission and dif fluids every 50-60k miles, etc. If you do the proper preventative stuff, they're pretty solid. It's when there's a weird ticking noise, or you let the air suspension compressor just run all the time, then things get super expensive real quick, but if you can turn your own wrench and do the maintenance on them, they're not too horribly expensive or unreliable.
Agreed!!!! I have a 2019 HSE and I'm loving the experience!!!!!
agree, this was me except in the lexus and jag sports car segment, same engine. the jaguar v8s have proved to be very reliable, have put 10k miles in under a year on mine and only needed an alternator and oil change. both our xk8 and xk have had some preventitive maintenance done however, the 4.0 needed its chains and thermostat, the 4.2 needed the thermostat, hoses for good measure also. a little preventative maintenance makes these cars bulletproof. knock on wood as always (theres a good amount in both of them so i should be good)
I had to laugh when he said the desert while showing a maize field. Great show, i love it.
“It’s a siren of a car” hahaha perfect! 👌
The hardest part of a Land Rover is just keeping them running. It will either frustrate you or bankrupt you but as they age, you’re no longer going to have a pleasant experience.
Land Rover's are notorious for their lack of reliability. There are several auto enthusiast memes about it. It's pretty awful.
@@jalopy2472 AUDI's too ?
WITHOUT A DOUBT the single best car show out there on ANY platform. Keep up the good work guys - the time and effort into the production quality shows. Thank you!
My father has had 3 range rovers and I can confirm their unreliablity. Gone through head gaskets on 2, a transmissions, 2 sets of air suspension, 2 radiators
in how long though?
@@voldyriddle3337 the first one went through a set of head gaskets in a year, the 2nd took 3yrs
Now they have worked on the issues for the newer models
@@thegreengirlcru you get more issues for your money, now?
@@JustinBenn can u afford one? Lmao
Just bought a 1012 Autobiography yesterday having listened to real wold experiences from log term users and having done well over 200,000 miles in contemporary Jags (last was the 4.2 supercharged V8 which has never had a single issue up to 170,000 miles on the engine) with no issues at all with regular maintenance - and that includes trips around the Nurburgring and Oulton Park (the last 2004 Jag needs new sills so I'm deciding what to do with it - the rest is as good as new - which still amazes me). This Range Rover looks pretty spectacular and I'm just expecting reasonably expensive maintenance as on any luxury/performance car ...so lets see how this goes. My real world experience means I'm relaxed and looking forward to not only only fun on the road, but using it as the world's largest lawnmower with a flail mower in my backyard ... luxury and mud plugging - that's what these are about ☺
Epic opening 🤣 Range Rover drivers have never impressed me, and I’ve seen thousands of them over the years.
So what's unimpressive about them? I'd wager they are better mechanics than you.
@@fredbrackely lmao you are one arent you. The vast majority of rr owners do not do their own maintenance so yeah lmao.
Always great to see your comparison videos but I personally think that for this test, a better comparison would have been the earlier model of the generation that followed.
Just to put into perspective as to whether you need this more refined version of the same shape.
The newer one is similar to like iPhone 12 Pro compared to the 13 Pro. Both are similar looking but a few differences apart. Though the prices are way different. It is more like whether you want the yesteryear flagship or todays one.
18:47, interesting mirror you got there. Charly would be proud.
Great review, thanks
Love the content keep it up!!!
Love the witty humor in the introduction😂 these guys are great
The interior of this car is stunning. It has stood the test of time so well. And you can replace the main screen with OEM looking car play units which completely renew the tech feel and usability of the car. I’d happily put up with the maintenance on one. Gorgeous car.
2010s Range Rovers were at the peak of its design that stayed true to its original design heritage that I feel gets lost with the newer models and I think that's why so many people still want to take a chance at owning one. I loved the boxy utilitarian look of its profile that still maintains a certain prestige and elegance while the rounded version is just giving me vibes of a early 2000s Ford Expedition. Everything else about it is beautiful and the interior is stunning, I just really dislike that they decided to go this direction for the exterior.
Thomas fighting with the armrest was hilarious 🤣
Remember a short period when Jeremy and the boys had the correct balance of car review vs comedic entertainment … and then they got too silly?! These guys have it figured out. Amazing content. Thank you gents.
True story. I know a guy with a 2021 diesel Landrover Discovery. A warning light came up, he got it checked, they reassured him that everything is OK. A week later he took his family in that car for a skiing holiday from Ireland to France. The holiday cost him an extra €15,000 when the car broke down in France.
Luv you guys and your work !!!!!! Humour and tech !!! 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👌🏿👊🏿👊🏿
Best intro ever! First 3 minutes had me dying. Now I need to watch the rest lol!
I have a 5.0 Supercharged L322. It has over 230km. It’s definitely British motoring at its finest, meaning it’s great when it works, but it’s not without its minor reliability issues.
Also, I think the L322 in this video is not a real Autobiography Ultimate, just badges as such. It’s a fully optioned HSE.
The Autobiography ultimate had leather headlining and teakwood trunk and leather door cards and it’s a very very very rare car.
You know it is a range rover when it starts to have minor reliability issue on 230 kms
@@-_--le3zk 100%
@@-_--le3zk if it was Japanese…that’s when you’d have to do the first oil change 😂
@@LorenzoCalgaryRealtor oh no,dont worry about changing oil,you will not need that in a landcruiser,it will work just fine
@@-_--le3zk haha. So they say…
Cracked me up when I saw "Brandy" by Looking Glass in the gauge cluster! 😂😂
That mirror joke was 👌
15:49 More vehicles should come with double sun visors. My '09 Passat had them and I've missed having them in every vehicle I've had since.
I had them in a mid 90s Ford Taurus and have missed them on every car since.
The older generation range rover has double Sun visors too
My 2003 Ford Excursion has them and I appreciate them whenever I am driving to work early in the morning.
I also agree, my 2002 Saab 9-5 wagon has double visors too.
I had a 2012 L322 ATB and those badges are definitely aftermarket, though still a nice vehicle. That tan interior is brutal though, but you can get those cheaper.
I've had an 06 range rover supercharged for years that has literally never had anything go wrong with the engine ... now the air suspension on the other hand😂
Do you remember the cost of doing the air suspension? I want one but I’m scared to get one at the same time due to mixed reviews
I have a 2007 supercharged Overfinch Range Rover, just passed 70k miles. It has been super reliable and bulletproof. It all comes down to maintenance and being cheap on maintenance cost. I love the new one, it would be a great addition to the garage next to the old one! 😛
My dad has always wanted a Range Rover. A few years back, when he turned 55, he was dead set on buying one. He had had a huge promotion at work, there were no big expenses coming, it was the right time to go out and buy one.
We couldn't find one affordable enough. The prices are insane! And there were no units available either. When you got to their official website, they had like 3 actual used ones on sale, and that was about it.
After that, he rented one on a trip, and he wasn't impressed. We started a business with the money instead.
I just hope somewhere in a land far far away...James, Richard and Jeremy see this video and nod in approval that the world of car enthusiast is in good hands for the next generation. (and maybe someday we are blessed with a crossover episode)
Clarkson, Hammond and May will forever be legends! I'm also glad to see some people following in their footsteps.
I really love this old generation RR, it's so subtle and elegant, timeless design. Yes, legendary unreliable, but still great car even now.
Nothing beats the one man one machine feeling of driving the original range rover classic....and living in Wales!
Range Rovers are surprisingly robust! I seem them go through potholes and dirty car parks often at the hands of valets. I even saw one go over a curb at the organic foods collective!
Oh my god
Just need to say - my 2011 RR Sport has 160k miles and is going strong. Looks good next to the M2, as well, Thomas
Great Review, amusing, honest and informative. Cheers from Tottenham. Beats owning one?
A buying guide is not the same as a "known issues" guide. Great buying guide you were quoting, though, very complete.