Guthrie Govan - Pirate Modes
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- Guitar Break special guest tutor, and arguably the world's best guitarist, Guthrie Govan demonstrates 'modes' in his own wonderful and entertaining way.
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I love that this man who has been called the best guitarist in the world has no problem teaching very rudimentary mode ideas to a class, he's very humble, I mean.
he teaches in the schools, many workshops mostly around London, and most of the time people who have been playing for 10 20 30 years, have no idea how a major scale even is made. You have to be very very patient, this guy is more than a musician, he is an example for all
I met Guthrie at the G4 Summit with Joe Satriani and he's just a wonderful person. Smokes like a chimney tho!
Yeah that's how most musicians pay their bills
rudimentary but very important and fundamental idea to understanding guitar.
hardly rudimentary
Here is the theoretical point, briefly explained in one comment. I hope it can help :)
Guthrie is exemplifying the general idea of modes and its importance, by demonstrating how differently *two modes of the same scale* can sound. The one and only scale soloed over here is the common _C major scale,_ yet the _"jolly pirate" mode_ and the _"slightly jazzy blues guy" mode_ sound entirely different. That is the basic point.
1)
The first mode demonstrated is the *Ionian mode;* the _'jolly pirate' mode._
This mode is evoked by ending the phrases on the note C, which is the 1st step in the C major scale. And so, the note C is your home here. 'Ionian mode' simply means 'a major scale with home on its 1st step'. Hence, a 'C major scale with home on its 1st step C' is theoretically named a *C Ionian scale.*
(The jolly pirate spirit is emphasised by the backing track playing just a jolly C chord.)
2)
The second mode demonstrated is the *Dorian mode;* the _'slightly jazzy blues guy' mode._
This mode is evoked by ending the phrases on the note D, which is the 2nd step in the C major scale. And so, the note D is your new home here. 'Dorian mode' simply means 'a major scale with home on its 2nd step'. Hence, a 'C major scale with home on its 2nd step D' is theoretically named a *D Dorian scale.* Again, this already sounds confusing, but it is really just another name for another approach to, or _mode_ of, the C major scale.
(The slightly jazzy blues guy mood is emphasized by the backing track playing the chords Dm7 and G9.)
+Jon Sebastian thank you!
Thanks man!
+Jon Sebastian Its made simpler if you go at it more in terms of key. The first example was in C the second in D. So its not just ending the notes on C or D, its more ending the notes on the tonic. If you were playing over something in C and continuously ended on a D it would sound more like a suspension, sure you could call it playing it in Dorian but it wouldn't be. Same notes, different tonic. The tonic key is whats most relevant here.
+Jon Sebastian These should help:
cnx.org/contents/aa9e4724-3e0b-435c-bb87-f438ccc5c9ab@25
thx man. My knowledge of theory just sucks ass, need to get me a book or sth
Give that man a ship!
Luke Leach And a bottle of rum! :D
+vlatkorock Guthrie would prefer beer I guess :P
oh aye, my sonorous mate...
SpaceShip! :)
hahaha
Is he playing in ARRGGH tuning?
corny
Ha arrghh tunning steve coogan lol
Aye
I hate that that was so good
You'd think so, but he's actually playing in SEA
I love it how the camera pans to some random guy that is oblivious to the face-melting he has just received.
"Yeah I could play that if I wanted to..."
It is now a goal in life to see Guthrie Govan walk onto stage wearing a pirate costume while playing this.
+M. Goetz Sorry to burst your bubble but he won't do it.
To be honest he does already look like a pirate, in the first place
i was Really hoping he would play the Captain Pugwash Theme!! 😄👏🏻🎸🇬🇧
He does that in a videoclip, it's The Young Punx - Rockall
He dresses as a pirate and plays a solo on a ship
00:41 = When you realize you never stood a chance the moment you walked into that room
LOLLL
LMAO that is fucking hilarious
I would walked off xD
Underrated comment
2361dcw 😂😂 I had to scroll down to see if someone noticed this too 😂😂
I love how he shreds his guitar extremely cleanly, while talking.
Next he'll sweep blindfolded, upside down, under water, with one hand behind is back
he prolly does that for fun when no one is looking :D
"Start with a scale at the beginning like this, balalllaalfnankalladkkallaladksllalala, and that's how you use that scale."
Legit laughed out loud at this comment
Oh man I laughed out loud at your comment !
1:43 the lick
My favourite lick is 1:35
:O good catch
Danny James no, THE lick. As in the Jazz meme
keen ears mate
LICC*
He is a great teacher. well spoken and comes across like the coolest guy on earth.
Hearing and not memorizing is the craft this guy mastered to an extraordinary level.
That dudes face at 40 second is priceless.
fockyu googull
constipation?
Guy Fawkes Dude was like… "The fuck was that?… shit just act natural…"
fockyu googull
diarrhea?
going to see him next week so excited.
am I the only one that loves his tone here?
ThunderHawk606 his tones are almost always fantastic.
Yeah dude. You're the only one
Cause he's using telecaster yeahhhhh
The modes are major or minor depending on the grade they correspond to.
I) Ionian is major,
II) Dorian is minor,
III) Phrygian is minor
IV) Lydian is major
V) Mixolydian is major
VI) Aeolian is minor
VII) Locrian is diminished
...we know, for fucks sake.
Or to work out 7 of the most used modes instead of memorising them, You just memorise this string: *T T S T T T S* where T stands for Tone, that is you skip a fret,( i.e. from 0 to 2), and S for Semitone, which is code for the very next fret (i.e. 0 to 1). If you find home, wherever you want it to be and use those intervals to construct a scale, you get _the pirate mode_. To construct the other 6 modes I mentioned, here's what you do:
1 ) Remove the first letter
2 ) Append it to the end... that's it.
So you get this pattern:
T T S T T T S - Pirate mode, Major (happy sounding)
T S T T T S T - This one sounds a little irish-ey to me, melancholic sounding. This is the one Guthrie is playing.
S T T T S T T - This one sounds like flamenco or arabic. weird sounding.
T T T S T T S - The Simpsons theme lives here.
T T S T T S T - This is the same as the Pirate mode, except it has a dominant 7 (sounds bluesy)
T S T T S T T - This one is your plain old vanilla "minor" scale.
S T T S T T T - This one is the weirdest. give it a try.
Choose one, find it everywhere in your instrument, and you'll start finding hidden patterns like the one Guthrie showed, some scales coincide in different tonal centres. Now it's up to you to drone it, feel it, play it and really internalise them.
Let's give it a spin and figure The Simpsons one out.
Guitar players love the key of E so lets call that home
Recall : T T T S T T S
1) E (this is home, we chose this one arbitrarily)
+ T
2) F#
+ T
3 ) G#
+ T
4 ) A#
+ S
5 ) B
+ T
6 ) C#
+ T
7 ) D#
+ S
8 ) E
and there you go. 7 modes are now in your brain... you just need to get them to your fingers+ears system. As an exercise, figure out the one Guthrie is playing and post it here or somewhere so other people can see it.
Thank's to +JimJamBanx for the corrections.
***** thanks for reading that lost tome of the LotR. I'm glad you enjoyed.
You can extend that reasoning to allow constructing chords and chord progressions, too. I'd love to see if you could tease the chords hiding in plain sight in the patterns that emerged from the structure I presented. Or maybe you already know how.
This way around you only need to understand very few basic principles and from those, logically construct a ton of music and even surprise yourself with new patterns just by exploration, similar to how a mathematician or physicist discovers structure in maths, instead of the other way around of memorizing tons of voicings and seemingly disconnected factoids regarding things that 'work', bewildered at how other people seem to memorize so much. When many really don't, they're just constructing, instead.
Just thought I'd mention that the Simpsons theme doesn't live in Lydian, nor is it the mode that Guthrie is playing in the video. The Simpsons theme is in Lydian Dominant, which is a mode of melodic minor (not at all part of the major scale) and in the video Guthrie is first playing in C major, followed by D Dorian (the second mode).
+JimJamBanx I thought I heard some dom7ths around and I thought about specifying dominant in the comment but thought that it would make things more obfuscated instead of less, which is why I didn't even name the modes. Considering the main theme, that is to say the part the world hums when you say "the simpsons" has no dominant 7th at least the way I reproduce it in my head, I thought it would give a familiar understanding on how modes would have an impact on the sound of the music. Which, to me, seems way more important and impactful than absolute correctness. My comment is meant as introductory, around construction as opposed to memorising fancy names and patterns. Sort of an engineering approach.
Didn't mean to say that _everything_ was in the major scale though I sure implied it, I will correct my wording.
About Guthrie playing Dorian, you're totally right, thank you for pointing that out, I will correct it right now. I'd like to think that I was more excited about constructing my comment but I'm pretty sure it's just a silly mistake I made.
I will adjust my comment
That's cool you took the time to write such a long comment. The way you're explaining is close to the way I learned* and although some people like to memorize, some other's like to construct and I'm the latter. Now, you don't construct every time, just until you internalize the sound.
So, the only thing I'd really challenge is the "a little knowledge is far superior to a pattern" part. It's computation speed vs retrieval speed.
*I learned using the Jazzology book by Rawlins, where he arranges the modes from brightest to darkest.
@Thehoboonthestreet I made a mnemonic to remember how to create any of the modes:
Light Into Moderate Dark Adding Pained Licks
#4 0 7 7 7 7 7
3 3 3 3
6 6 6
2 2
5
Guthrie understands the fretboard like I understand pizza
VirtualLife
i have pretty bad memory unfortunately but yes i think your right he just understands and knows the instrument completely or one could argue the entire theory of guitar.
LOL!!!!!!!
Very good. My idol
Only if you're a pro pizza maker haha
It's just awesome to see the love of guitar being passed on.
THIS IS JUST ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL VIDEO FOOTAGE..
I COULD VERY EASILY WATCH THIS VIDEO FOOTAGE REPEATEDLY REPEATEDLY REPEATEDLY REPEATEDLY REPEATEDLY REPEATEDLY REPEATEDLY REPEATEDLY REPEATEDLY REPEATEDLY REPEATEDLY REPEATEDLY REPEATEDLY REPEATEDLY..
without a shadow of doubt the most versatile player around at the moment!
I think the same as you!!!
What a wizard on the guitar!!!
Love it
This comment has aged like fine wine. He's better than ever and constantly amazing me with what he plays
Guthrie Govan - Modes
There, I fixed the title.
Also.... I wish the video were longer! This man spits out golden knowledge!
i just love the way he keeps talking to them while playing shredding scale at 0:33
He was talking whilst hammering out a blazing run! Unreal!
"Welcome to today's lesson where I'll teach you to play music from Spongebob"
I like that he is such a nice guy as well as being one of the best guitarists.
Jesus of guitar.
you welcome. Take a key. On the first grade play the maj7 chord. On the second a m7. Third a m7. Fourth a maj7. Fifth a 7 (dominant). Sixth a m7. Seventh a dim. Take for example the key C. The chord progression corresponding to the modes of C are: Cmaj7, Dm7, Em7, Fmaj7, G7, Am7 and Bdim.
Bring back the jolly pirate!!!
I could listen to that first lick for days
This is damn genius! I want to learn to play like this.
This guy is fast becoming one of my all time favorite guitarist ...his skills are unquestionable but his generosity is beyond the norm in popular culture for someone who is as famous as he is.
mis respetos a este gran guitarrista!!
Guy Fawkes, my very great great great great great great great great great great.... Grand Father would be so proud of this man. You see, Guy Fawkes has been loved and admired by the English for many many years :-)
0:55 sounds like costa del sol - final fantasy 7
ha ive never seen anyone more happy when they play/when they give a lesson
0:31 Everyobdy is like: WTF! FREAKIN AWESOME! And Guthrie is like: Trololololol
Our saviour has returned spreading his message of love and peace over sweet melodic jazz
00:30 WTF?
I think the jazzy phrasing is much more impressive than that
@@PaladinV0ci says all the 3 person who attend jazz concert
Saw this guy live in Boston, I legit cried he's so amazing haha completely different live
So if I steal that shape, am I pirating it? Can you pirate the pirate? Or pirate the parrot? Or the pirate's parrot?
Gordon Tubbs
Easy, mate. Pirating pirates may end with you in an alternate universe or something.
You are just a Privateer. ..
Legal, royally funded piracy...
The way he explained how the best note changes but he is still using the same scale shape is just amazing.
The students are fucking lost.
Are you a guitar player? Can you do what Guthrie is doing ? Maybe you can , love to see it😀 so post it here, you also may be lost along with all the others.
backalley cryonix I'm lost along with them.
+Dana Everhart He literally did not say anything of the sort. You're a fucking idiot.
+John Snow I might be a idiot but It takes one to know one my friend and you you a red headed hambone. You kinda remind us here of a sphincter 🔆
Dana Everhart Get back under your bridge, you fucking troll.
I think his work here is done - provoking so much thoughtful discussion
1:42 THE LICK
Everyone just took their guitars for a ride to meet Guthrie.
Seeing people compare guitarists shows you right off the bat their nescience in the field and how close minded they really are. I was like that a while ago when I first got into independent virtuoso guitarists. It seems like an something you can accomplish, comparing like-playing artists, but its really not. The quicker you learn that comparing artists is like comparing an apple to an orange the sooner you will really be able appreciate and admire music. Its just like Bruce Lee said, don't bad mouth one style, because you could learn a lot from them if you just opened your horizons.
Right on Bruce! Truth R.I.P.
more of these guitar gods should be giving seminars like this to encourage more people to play.
The ex number 2 sounds like a brazilian music called Bossa Nova
+Vinnie Assumpção Well that's because it is!
The bossa has really spread out from Brazil into the world of jazz, rightly so. It's very common to hear it from time to time.
I was lucky enough to have him as a teacher for a year along with Jamie Humphries when I studied guitar at BIMM and I can tell you from experience he's an awesome teacher
Turn the video speed to 1.5 lol
Deathshuck or turn to 0.5 speed and be creeped out
Deathshuck LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL xDDDDD
Deathshuck He sounds overly excited about everything now
+Deathshuck try it at 2.0 i'm fucking dying lol
and that smile he has when he does the "do these notes sound wrong?" bit is just so adorable.
its weird to see such a talented person seem like such a little kid
What type of music is that at 0:55
The chords are jazz based, played bossa nova style, a form of Brazilian jazz. Guthrie plays a fusion jazz lead on top of it.
He goes from C Ionian (C Major) to D Dorian for anyone confused, but he uses the eaxact same notes but different backing
Guthrie is the closest to a real wizard we will ever witness haha
Just chatting and shredding away. I envy this guy SO much.
Good ol dorian
I can't even begin to comprehend how awesome it would be to have Guthrie Govan as my teacher......what the hell....
He is some kind of savant.. must be..
Which kind of savant are you talking about ? Major Savant or Minor Savant ?
Best explanation of modes ever!
Justin bieber is a way better guitarist, much more feel and emotion than guthrie.
Nope. Guthrie is technically and theoretically the most complete guitarist, plays with a lot of feel, and is more creative with his music. Bieber is just a pop star with autotune, doesn't write music, and just does too simplistic strumming. Guthrie is a bazillion times superior. What you said must be a joke.
Oh, dude! I think that you are right!
It's amazing how many people don't know what trolling is...
@@nickwaters1701
Not sure you know a joke when you see it.
@@nickwaters1701 r/wooooosh
I love the way that Guthrie explains music, he makes complexity, simplicity. :)
This is so wrong. It's a tragedy that he's wasting his time teaching when he could be leaving the world more great MUSIC!!!!! Let those poor sots buy a Mel Bay chord book and learn like the rest of us! hahahahha Guthrie is one bad mutha.
You're totally right, but i think that's what he love... to teach! He's well known without no effort in the guitar world, and he's doing what he loves most, he's my guitar hero with jason becker also :,D
Hey, he can do whatever he wants. Furthermore, sharing his secrets shouldn't be limited to world class musicians. This is the core foundation of what he's master at and if he manages to inspire the next generation by teaching them basics, I see nothing wrong with that. He'll certainly write new music when he feels like it.
@@tomvesely4008 Hey, that's what i said politely
It's not the playing that amazed me; it's the fact he can bloody talk while doing it!!
What a guy
Every other thursday night for the last year i used to go see him play with his bro in a venue in Chelmsford, absolutely brilliant, i havent seen him play his JJ for a while though!
He teached my cousin in Brighton. Now he's a fabulous jazz player.
He taught your cousin in Brighton
I could watch this guy play all day.
I actually recently bought his "Creative Guitar" book. I haven't gotten it yet but it's on its way. Can't wait!
This is the only lesson that explained modes properly to me! Guthrie is too amazing
Hi everyone!!!!
I am the BELOVED descendant of the BELOVED Guy Fawkes, and I take great pleasure in saying how well liked I am by both Guthrie and ALL of his fans too!
And, who knows, maybe I'll visit England soon and perhaps they will also love me like they did my great great great... grand dad! :-)
Because it consists only of alternating between a C5 and a G/C5, which means there are only two actual notes in the backing track. You can play any basic mode (in C) on top of it that has those two notes (C and G), which basically means any mode except the Locrian.
your´re welcome :) glad I could help. I found that video very helpful too
Such a brilliant way of teaching modes
i can only imagine being taught this man he makes it sound so easy
When he says "Do these notes sound wrong? No they sound like Carlos Santana" I was just thinking how much it sounded like Oye Como Va from Abraxas
Always a pleasure to see Guthrie playing, thanks for posting :)
After plotting the notes of the major scale in any key all over the fretboard, there are actually 7 different scale shapes within that framework. Collectively they can be looked at in one big pattern. You can either chose to understand that Guthrie is accentuating the 2nd note of the C-major scale framework, or he's accentuating the first note 'D' of the D-dorian scale within it. All the same notes. The trick is anticipating key changes in improvisation & knowing where the framework moved.
glad to see he's teaching Modes as a relationship between the notes of the scale and the relative Chords of that scale rather than as a scale 'fingering' or shape which seems to be how so many talk about them!
remember, the chord is the colour of the wall and the note is the art that you place on the wall, if you have a white wall (I chord maybe) the art looks/sounds different than if you have a purple wall (IV chord?). the subject can be the same, but the background makes it appear different!
2 months ago I never heard of Guthrie. Now hes on my all time fav list
haha i actually found that pirate lick he playd was rather fun x) feeling like this kid playing banjo kazooie or something :D
modes are minor or major as such, this is ionian mode (when playing over the first chord progression in C major) which is as you say a major scale, but when he plays it over the second progression (D minor) playing the notes of what was C ionian is also D Dorian, they share the same notes as each other and only sound different when the chord progression is changed, i hope that helped
Also known as the Dorian mode, one of the seven modes. There is a video on youtube with Vinnie Moore explaining the besics of modes if anyone is interested.
this is the kind of guy that could make a new album everyday... amazing!!!
So Fn simply explained! Use your ears n listen, it's Fn music. Guthrie always emphasises this basic rule. Amazing!
Guthrie.. A breath of fresh air for Guitarists.. Those lucky buggers have him as thier teacher...
there is just no one better and making it more easy looking than Guthrie
yeah was a good year for tutors the year i was at BIMM we had Guthrie, Jamie Humphries, Phil Hilbourne and Paul bieltovitchz who played for the carl palmer band all amazing players and teachers we also had master classes from Vinnie Moore, Albert Lee, and Acey from the Murderdolls whilst I was there it was a great year
guthrie seems like a real good teacher. there's lots of amazing guitarists, but not many of them could teach what they do to others. very cool.
The Super Locrian scale is an altered scale. It's the 7th mode of the Melodic Minor. It differs from a normal Locrian mode in the fact that all of the degrees are flattened (except tonic, obviously)whereas regular Locrian has a Perfect Fourth. Works well over altered dominant chords.
As far as I know, Super Locrian is the only "Super" mode. However, there are other similar scales which can be used over altered dominant chords that share the same quality.
The tonic chord of D Dorian is Dm, usually extended as some kind of minor 7th or 9th chord.
So, Dm7 or Dm9 or any other simillar extention.
He's coming to ou music college in glasgow for a master class this friday, cant wait !
Guthrie Govan: "Here is the 'jolly pirate' mode. Now, here is the 'slightly jazzy Santana blues' mode."
I'll never forget this comparison.
I enjoy watching this lesson just for entertainement. It makes me happy.
one of my favorite videos on youtube
Yes, but Bm7b5 can also be described as B half-diminished 7 (B, D, F, A). The b5 makes the triad diminished, but the 7 is is only half-diminished (minor). Hope that makes sense.
Huh, that was a really concise and thorough explanation of modes! I am stealing this for my lessons.
Ohmygod, imagine being in his guitar class, would be AWESOME
first time i saw that i laughed out loud, i love this guy
This guy is untouchable.
Phrygian Dominant is a great mode. More Spanish sounding that your basicl 3rd mode of the major scale. Lydian #2 also sounds great.
he makes me cry blood