I live in a remote Central American village. Dealers and locksmiths aren’t an option. I’m terrified of losing the only key in the country that will start my truck. I can get a non chip key made. If I do this I could have a couple of back up keys. This is very helpful, thanks.
Chip keys don't provide much security. All it takes is a guy with a computer and an adapter to OBD II and they can program a key. This setup will actually cause the thief to BRICK THE TRUCK if they program a new key. His transponder won't be programmed anymore, and the thief's will be getting interference from his transponder. End result? Thief gets a no-start, and the owner will know something happened because their immobilizer light will be on.
Thanks for the tip. My old Ford is back in action. (If i hold the old transponder key in just the right position while turning the new key it starts and runs great) I think I will next reconfigure the tumblers in the lock cylinder so I can use the old key in the new lock set. Your video was very helpful and got me thinking. I'm going to be looking through your video's for more helpful tips.
Thanks to this video, I came up with a easier fix for this issue. The "key" is to find a new lock cylinder/key set for your Ford vehicle that has a transponder (the key will have the offset keychain opening), remove that transponder, and replace it with the transponder from your original key. I just did this on a 1999 Ford Windstar with Napa part number ECH KS6742L. Took just a few minutes and works like a champ. Resolved a number of issues including gauges going wild, interior lights randomly switching on and off, and vehicle stalling on the road.
I just changed out my ignition switch and decided to just have 2 keys instead of changing the door locks... it's funny that u said the same thing that I did..."I'll just have 2 keys like the old days!! Lol.. great video!
Yea knew I wished my 2000 F-250 Lariat had a PATS system cuz it's the most stolen truck out here in the west! But I do have 2 sticks that confuse even my freinds, 5 speed with manual 4X4 :) Plus a fuel pump kill switch thst I always use!
I think it's fun to challenge yourself as you demonstrated by trying different forms for handling anti-theft car systems. This was quite innovative and genius of you. Thanks for sharing
There is tumbler set that you can use to re-key the cylinder. Then you can actually use your original key. But then, I have done this to my friend's vehicle as well. I just removed antenna and zip tied original key inside antenna ring.
Great job! I'm searching how to do this with my Mercedes Metris work van. Bought it used but only came with one key fob. The MB dealers nearby cannot re-key a new fob. Closest one they told me is in DC and I'm near Pittsburgh.
I worked for a dealer back in the 90's that serviced a lot of emergency vehicles. Many fleets wanted all of the trucks and cars keyed alike and that was not a problem until the PATS key system came out. At first were simply using older tumblers and cutting the head of the original key off and gluing it to the bottom of the column. That worked for the early cars but not always on the second generation of that system. By then they had come out with a security box where you would screw a small metal or plastic box to the dash frame near the base of the column, place and original key inside and plug the wire from the transponder into that box. The box had a transponder reader build into it I suppose. I probably added that to a few hundred police cars and ambulances one summer. You don't always have to replace the door locks. If the middle two cuts of the old key and new key are the same or within one or two numbers of each other, a new key can be cut to work both the ignition and door locks. For example if the key code for the ign. is 1234567890, your good, but not if it were say 123491437, this has to do with the ability of the key itself to navigate the tumblers. If the two middle pins are too far apart in length the key will hang up going into the lock. Take a look at the key, and if the middle two key cuts are close or the same chances are you just need to cut a new key to fit both tumblers. If the key codes are too different, another option is to cut each side of the key to a different code. It will mean that the key will only work one way in each lock. At the dealer we had hand held key cutters then which let us make custom keys, but any locksmith with a manual key machine can do the same.
I've got a 2001 Ford Explorer Sport SUV, and it's gotten difficult to turn the key and start. I think maybe it's the ignition switch down on the column, and I'll start there. But if I have to replace the key switch itself, I'll try this.
I noticed you have some beeping going on after the vehicle is running. Is it five beeps followed by silence, then repeats 4 more times? If so, the most likely culprit is the air bag warning bulb in the dash is burned out.
Yes, Joseph. You're exactly correct about the air bag warning light and the series of 5 beeps every time I start the truck....and every 30 minutes thereafter! It's a nuisance, but I've not gotten around to fix it....yet....
No nitpicking here, I love this mod, much like any resourceful way of beating a system of too much technology. Besides, paying an arm and a leg for a professionally made replacement key would put the kibosh on driving with a manual transmission. Incidentally I’ve used E6000 before and found it to be one of the best. In fact I think it’s the same thing as Shoe Goo but in a smaller tube; I’ve used both and can’t tell the difference. Whether the big tube is a better deal I’m not sure.
sometimes the induction coil that is in the ring around the key fails. Or the immobilizer box it's attached to fails. Your system won't work for that. Instead get a $15 mobilizer/transponder bypass device, put a chipped key inside, and hook it's wires to where the immobilizer wire cable is connected. Then you can use a standard metal key, or second chipped key, that is cut to fit into the original ignition switch. If you want, can just take the chip like you did out from key, and tape or glue inside the bypass box, in middle of it's pickup coil.
Easier solution without a new ignition switch! In my 2007 f150 I just attached the chip key inside the steering column on top of the ignition switch and then it's always there and I use plain keys cuts from the hardware store. No more worries of losing the chip key. It's been over 8 yrs set like this and I've never had any issues
Appreciate this video. Found it to be very helpful to my friends situation. Don't know 5hat it's the cure yet. But I have at least a direction to move im.
I just had to switch out my pcm 3X. Got a bad one first time out, so I had to replace it with the old one until the new unit came. The E-key place wanted $150 each time I needed the key programmed. I said f**k that, and bought a TopDon Ultradiag scanner that has key and fob programming capabilities. It was only $700. Just with this one job it’s already almost paid for itself. I bought my Exploder used- and nobody knew the keyless entry code. The Ultradiag can tap into the pcm and give me the code. It’s an awesome little unit once you learn how to use it.
it's not as good as getting rid of the transponder crap but it's probably the best any of us could do except i'm a little confused, you said the dorman ignition cylinder you bought doesn't have a transponder but the dorman cylinder you linked to not only says it "matches the fit and function of the original equipment assembly" but also says it's special feature is "anti-theft", that sure sounds like the dorman cylinder and keys have a transponder and chips. I desperately need to get around this PATS system, you need 2 chiped keys to program another key but i only have 1 key for this used 2001 ford i bought and i'm not giving a dealer hundreds just to get a back up key, any idea why that lock cylinder say anti-theft????
My question is this. Can those key chips go bad? On my ford, some keys work and some dont. One key will not work, but if i put it in the other way up, it will work.any insight on this?
think my mechanic kinda tried doing that but he didnt get it in right place , so we ordered the right chip key & lets say only 11 days to get it going , hey I was getting good gas mileage though . For what its worth somewhere on the switch is antenna for tranponder , yeah like the round plastic part , built in or something , can't remember . My switch was 25 years old . You did good , with towing , parts , programing alot of money
Question!!??? Does the chip has a some kind of battery or it gets a charge by the key?? Some how it needs power to send a signal to the cars computer and start it up.??🤔🤔. Can put it close by but won't start if it doesn't receive any power. Just thinking about, don't misunderstand.
The PATS ignition key does not have a battery. The RFID chip in the ignition key uses RF energy transmitted by a reader. The PATS reader or transceiver is typically a separate module installed nearby, such as within the steering column on Ford vehicles. The PCM also needs the original RFID chip to allow complete operation of the engine.
If you're paranoid about theft with the non-PATS key, you can buy a clutch pedal lock which prevents the clutch from being fully depressed to start the engine. It's a little cumbersome to lock/unlock the clutch pedal everytime you park, but it's the price you pay for more peace of mind. Unlikely anyone is going to steal the truck if they have to break into truck someway and then find a way to cut off the pedal lock.
Hey what do think about it was change & I change the solenoid under the hood against the firewall but SomeXs it start & someXs it doesn’t start,can U give me another solution it could be.. thanks in advance!!
It could be a number of things. For me it was the fuel pump on its way out. I did a video about that here: th-cam.com/video/3rSUSkrxncI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LUqJq1dKNi_I_R__
another option is motocraft's keyable ingnition cylinders. they are more expensive than the doorman option, but cheaper than getting keys programed. it's a good option if you want your doors and ignition keyed alike.
I'm heading out to replace it now. Problem is, My battery is dead, and no way to recharge or jump it. I'm hoping to see if a neighbor will jump it, because it's a new battery. I hv a feeling this is going to work! I'll let u know. Thank u.
@Buckwsr IT was actually a PT Cruiser Turbo Convertable. And IT WORKED!!!! Got a jump, held the key for now, and after months of no start, I actually replaced the ignition myself (only with your help), jumped it, and it cranked right up!!! Woohoo! Thanks again!
If you have two keys with transponders you can program two more keys to the engine computer. Just cut two new transponder keys to match your lock. Use a combination of key and transponders to get into setup and then insert the new keys to programs them. Better, have a locksmith rekey your lock cylinder to your old keys. They just change the pins.
Love the video, love the idea... however, anytime the keys get lost there is no record of a keycode. Decode your new key and write the keycode down near the vin sticker in the door jamb, on the title and maybe in the owners manual. This will save you from having to change the ignition everything the keys get lost.
What you need is a VATS Bypass module. It's a pack of resistes that you hard wire into the harness on the Anti theft side of the body controll module. It will fool the computer into thinking the signal is OK and then you can use a standard key to start. If you do this, the bypass module will have 3wires, power ground and 5 volt signal. Put a rocker switch on the ground side of the module, and then hide that in the car. Now you've effectively made a car "disconect" switch. You can leave the key in the ignition, windows open and no thief will be able to start the car. It mimcs an engine computer swap, that has to be programmed by the dealer, and the computer thinks it's being stolen, and disables spark/fuel.
So I had just bought a 02 Taurus se recently and had a nightmare story to go along with it. I hope to try and figure it out soon if any one has suggestions that would be appreciated. So I started the car fine backed it out of its space and then turned it of. I had went to the store with a friend in his car and upon my return to the car I lost the single transponder key! I couldn’t find it and didn’t trust the people who were around that they hadn’t found it and were lying to me just to then steal my car later when I had left. After destroying the ignition lock colander I had found the key! I had cracked the transceiver and am having a hard time getting the flashing theft light to turn off so I can start my vehicle . Help anyone. Is it a matter of getting a new transceiver?
Without the key, it's gonna be a bit of a challenge to remove the lock cylinder because you're supposed to turn it to the "run" position to remove the cylinder. Then, you'll need to get one of those dorman lock cylinders that includes the chip key and a dongle to plug into the OBDII port and re-program the computer to the new key. Not sure if that's a great idea, or if you should get some locksmith help on this one.... Good luck.
Yeah it's going to work. That's the first thing I do every time I buy a new truck. I go out and have non-transponder keys made, and then I break off the transponder from the original key and tape it to the steering column. I've been doing this for decades. I mean, I'm about to watch the video. But it's starting with the question as to whether or not it's going to work. It's going to work.
I took the Ring out of the lock Reinstalled the lock. I zip tied the key in the ring and zipped it to the under steering wheel dash, as I didn’t want to rekey the doors. Now any key keyed will run my truck. I shut it off and the PATs light keeps flashing on dash looking stock. I bought some old Ford Keys and had the hdwr dealer cut them For me. Again looking stock and no one be the wiser.
How to remove cylinder when the key will go in, but will not turn? Also, cut rubber housing off old key attach transponder to new key and cover with rubber from old key.
Nice I paid 80$ year ago for a second Key. Now tumbler are getting worn so I need to get a new set up. I'll probably do this my self as well because one of my Keys is broken and you an see the transponder . The stupid thing is ever car in the past 25 + year has the transponders, so how is it so many cars and truck get stolen ever month?
IT WORKS. I HAD A KEY WITH NO RESPONDER. USE KEY WITH *RESPONDER TOUCH KEY IGNITION. USE CAR KEY WITH NO RESPONDER TURNED AND BLEW MY MIND IT STARTED CAR. THIS BLANK CAR KEY ONLT OPENS CAR DOOR. FIRST TIME IT STARTED CAR🎉. YOU CAN'T MEASURE COMON SENSE. YOU JUST HAVE IT.
It does not always work, did everything as suggested could not find a spot the chip would work except in the original key with the original cylinder..... my truck is 2002 don't know if that matters.
Yeah, so like I said in the video, you can buy lock cylinders that come with door locks to match and use the same key, but I'm fine with carrying two keys....the original one to unlock the doors, and the new one for the ignition. You know, just like in the old days when GM cars came with two keys, a square headed key for the ignition, and a round headed key for the door locks......
@@Buckwsr yes it is! It's super special to me, it was my Great Grandfather's last daily driver. He bought it in 1991 with about 10,000 miles on it and it now has about 125,000 miles. The engine still runs great! No real body or frame damage. It needs a coat of paint and quite a bit of interior restoration, but my plan is to work on that as I have time and money! I just think it's really cool to have my Great Grandfather's last car! Lots of family history, memories, and stories.
You did a good job but I would have not went as far as you did when I got the key cylinder off I took the tumbler plate off breaking out which springs were broken and left them in the Tumblr out not leaving all of Mount so it's still locks but enough it was still function that's how I would have done it what have saved a lot of money not bye-bye in another locking cylinder key
I just became stranded at the Aldi's parking lot because my 2002 F-150 wouldn't start because of the anti security lock system. It wouldn't reset this time by doing the little trick stated in the owners manual. It worked twice before but not this time. I was hoping there was a way to disable the system. I tried both keys and it still wouldn't start. I'm thinking the problem is somewhere in the computer not sensing the key. I'm not going to pay a tow truck 200 bucks to bring it to the dealership either.
I have a 2008 F150 Ford that I lost the fucking key and the anti-theft will not let it start. How do I bypass it without the key I put a new cylinder in it with a new key that doesn’t have the.
@@Buckwsr Exactly! Your video title is misleading. You still need the chipped key to make this work, whether you cut the chip out or simply stash the whole key or just the head of it inside the column somewhere. Your video title makes it look like you don't need the chip key whatsoever and to simply replace the lock cylinder. I can see why esperanzavaldez5204 asked the question, as for someone who lost their key and did a search, your title makes it sound like the solution is easier said than done. Yeah, you make it known in the video, but you wasted others time if they don't have an original key from the vehicle and are looking for their answer.
I had a 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee I lost the key went to the junkyard and got the PCM and the ignition switch and the ignition key from the same year model vehicle saved big bucks working fine not hard to change the computer module all for around 50.00 bucks 4 screws and a wire harness on the firewall to change the computer module
So technically speaking, if you didn't need a new ignition switch due to mechanical problems, you could have just gotten 2 standard keys cut that turns the switch to all positions, and glue the one good transponder near the reader? Thanks for the idea. We have just one ugly but working chip key. For a really good high mileage car that at best is a $2400 car. Things add up keeping it on the road. If it exceeds a monthly car payment to fix anything, we might part ways. But hope not. Using economy cars their full life is way more environmentally logical than new cars. Secondary parts markets are jobs, too.
I live in a remote Central American village. Dealers and locksmiths aren’t an option. I’m terrified of losing the only key in the country that will start my truck. I can get a non chip key made. If I do this I could have a couple of back up keys. This is very helpful, thanks.
Cool! Thanks for watching the video. What country are you in?
@@Buckwsronce it’s started and you are driving does chip have to stay in close proximity??
And the security that the chip key provided went to hell 😂 fckn Genius🙄🤦🏻♂️
@@angeltoledo8037 what are you talking about?
Chip keys don't provide much security. All it takes is a guy with a computer and an adapter to OBD II and they can program a key. This setup will actually cause the thief to BRICK THE TRUCK if they program a new key. His transponder won't be programmed anymore, and the thief's will be getting interference from his transponder.
End result? Thief gets a no-start, and the owner will know something happened because their immobilizer light will be on.
Thanks for the tip. My old Ford is back in action. (If i hold the old transponder key in just the right position while turning the new key it starts and runs great) I think I will next reconfigure the tumblers in the lock cylinder so I can use the old key in the new lock set. Your video was very helpful and got me thinking. I'm going to be looking through your video's for more helpful tips.
Thank you so much!
Thanks to this video, I came up with a easier fix for this issue. The "key" is to find a new lock cylinder/key set for your Ford vehicle that has a transponder (the key will have the offset keychain opening), remove that transponder, and replace it with the transponder from your original key. I just did this on a 1999 Ford Windstar with Napa part number ECH KS6742L. Took just a few minutes and works like a champ. Resolved a number of issues including gauges going wild, interior lights randomly switching on and off, and vehicle stalling on the road.
You kick ass! Thanks for the tip. Mine works perfectly
Isnt that what he just did
I just changed out my ignition switch and decided to just have 2 keys instead of changing the door locks... it's funny that u said the same thing that I did..."I'll just have 2 keys like the old days!! Lol.. great video!
Pretty Slick there Buck.
Yea knew I wished my 2000 F-250 Lariat had a PATS system cuz it's the most stolen truck out here in the west! But I do have 2 sticks that confuse even my freinds, 5 speed with manual 4X4 :) Plus a fuel pump kill switch thst I always use!
I like the kill switch idea, a great anti-theft all on it's own, when well secreted.
I think that was a awesome idea Awesome video thank you
Relax Buck doing An Amazing Job
I think it's fun to challenge yourself as you demonstrated by trying different forms for handling anti-theft car systems. This was quite innovative and genius of you. Thanks for sharing
Thanks so much.
Buck, brilliant! Also love that revolver cylinder.
Buck the Brain thanks for sharing with all your fans. Excellent idea whish I had thought of it. Thanks Buck.
There is tumbler set that you can use to re-key the cylinder. Then you can actually use your original key. But then, I have done this to my friend's vehicle as well. I just removed antenna and zip tied original key inside antenna ring.
Great job! I'm searching how to do this with my Mercedes Metris work van. Bought it used but only came with one key fob. The MB dealers nearby cannot re-key a new fob. Closest one they told me is in DC and I'm near Pittsburgh.
Will this work on a 2002 ford mustang ? I have lost the only key I had
For car what can I do
GREAT IDEA, it's VERY help full knowing HOW & WHERE the chip is in the key
I worked for a dealer back in the 90's that serviced a lot of emergency vehicles. Many fleets wanted all of the trucks and cars keyed alike and that was not a problem until the PATS key system came out. At first were simply using older tumblers and cutting the head of the original key off and gluing it to the bottom of the column. That worked for the early cars but not always on the second generation of that system. By then they had come out with a security box where you would screw a small metal or plastic box to the dash frame near the base of the column, place and original key inside and plug the wire from the transponder into that box. The box had a transponder reader build into it I suppose. I probably added that to a few hundred police cars and ambulances one summer.
You don't always have to replace the door locks. If the middle two cuts of the old key and new key are the same or within one or two numbers of each other, a new key can be cut to work both the ignition and door locks.
For example if the key code for the ign. is 1234567890, your good, but not if it were say 123491437, this has to do with the ability of the key itself to navigate the tumblers. If the two middle pins are too far apart in length the key will hang up going into the lock.
Take a look at the key, and if the middle two key cuts are close or the same chances are you just need to cut a new key to fit both tumblers.
If the key codes are too different, another option is to cut each side of the key to a different code. It will mean that the key will only work one way in each lock.
At the dealer we had hand held key cutters then which let us make custom keys, but any locksmith with a manual key machine can do the same.
You are a genius 😮
I've got a 2001 Ford Explorer Sport SUV, and it's gotten difficult to turn the key and start. I think maybe it's the ignition switch down on the column, and I'll start there. But if I have to replace the key switch itself, I'll try this.
Thanks, and good luck!
I noticed you have some beeping going on after the vehicle is running. Is it five beeps followed by silence, then repeats 4 more times? If so, the most likely culprit is the air bag warning bulb in the dash is burned out.
Yes, Joseph. You're exactly correct about the air bag warning light and the series of 5 beeps every time I start the truck....and every 30 minutes thereafter! It's a nuisance, but I've not gotten around to fix it....yet....
Fantastic video, stumbled on it by accident but you have gained a new subscriber! Thanks for a fix I hope I will never need, but if I do...
No nitpicking here, I love this mod, much like any resourceful way of beating a system of too much technology. Besides, paying an arm and a leg for a professionally made replacement key would put the kibosh on driving with a manual transmission.
Incidentally I’ve used E6000 before and found it to be one of the best. In fact I think it’s the same thing as Shoe Goo but in a smaller tube; I’ve used both and can’t tell the difference. Whether the big tube is a better deal I’m not sure.
Great comment and instructions… definitely a dollar saved is a dollar earned… thanks for the info…
i got the same problem exactly!!!!! thanks ill try it
have you replaced the battery in thr key fob???
sometimes the induction coil that is in the ring around the key fails. Or the immobilizer box it's attached to fails. Your system won't work for that. Instead get a $15 mobilizer/transponder bypass device, put a chipped key inside, and hook it's wires to where the immobilizer wire cable is connected. Then you can use a standard metal key, or second chipped key, that is cut to fit into the original ignition switch. If you want, can just take the chip like you did out from key, and tape or glue inside the bypass box, in middle of it's pickup coil.
Easier solution without a new ignition switch! In my 2007 f150 I just attached the chip key inside the steering column on top of the ignition switch and then it's always there and I use plain keys cuts from the hardware store. No more worries of losing the chip key. It's been over 8 yrs set like this and I've never had any issues
Appreciate this video. Found it to be very helpful to my friends situation. Don't know 5hat it's the cure yet. But I have at least a direction to move im.
Can a transponder key be programmed without an original key
Contact a Ford dealership I believe they can.
Ace hardware can do it ive had to (all keys lost) just ask not all can
It takes two keys to program a third. Otherwise it requires a scan tool to reprogram the ECU.
I just had to switch out my pcm 3X. Got a bad one first time out, so I had to replace it with the old one until the new unit came. The E-key place wanted $150 each time I needed the key programmed. I said f**k that, and bought a TopDon Ultradiag scanner that has key and fob programming capabilities. It was only $700. Just with this one job it’s already almost paid for itself. I bought my Exploder used- and nobody knew the keyless entry code. The Ultradiag can tap into the pcm and give me the code. It’s an awesome little unit once you learn how to use it.
it's not as good as getting rid of the transponder crap but it's probably the best any of us could do except i'm a little confused, you said the dorman ignition cylinder you bought doesn't have a transponder but the dorman cylinder you linked to not only says it "matches the fit and function of the original equipment assembly" but also says it's special feature is "anti-theft", that sure sounds like the dorman cylinder and keys have a transponder and chips. I desperately need to get around this PATS system, you need 2 chiped keys to program another key but i only have 1 key for this used 2001 ford i bought and i'm not giving a dealer hundreds just to get a back up key, any idea why that lock cylinder say anti-theft????
Brilliant well done mate
My question is this. Can those key chips go bad? On my ford, some keys work and some dont. One key will not work, but if i put it in the other way up, it will work.any insight on this?
I tried that with a Toyota and it rid not work for me. I didnt try a lot of places though. Good video
dude you did it like a ptp thumbs up Larry b
think my mechanic kinda tried doing that but he didnt get it in right place , so we ordered the right chip key & lets say only 11 days to get it going , hey I was getting good gas mileage though . For what its worth somewhere on the switch is antenna for tranponder , yeah like the round plastic part , built in or something , can't remember . My switch was 25 years old . You did good , with towing , parts , programing alot of money
I appreciate the note! Yeah, my new lock cylinder is still working great....and the truck hasn't been stolen yet!!!
@@Buckwsr Forgot to add the importance of putting that cylinder , RUN position , if you dont about impossible to get out without drilling !
Question!!??? Does the chip has a some kind of battery or it gets a charge by the key?? Some how it needs power to send a signal to the cars computer and start it up.??🤔🤔. Can put it close by but won't start if it doesn't receive any power. Just thinking about, don't misunderstand.
The PATS ignition key does not have a battery. The RFID chip in the ignition key uses RF energy transmitted by a reader. The PATS reader or transceiver is typically a separate module installed nearby, such as within the steering column on Ford vehicles. The PCM also needs the original RFID chip to allow complete operation of the engine.
A regular key will work on the doors, the chip is only for the ignition. And u r both a genius and a moran for defeating the anti theft mechanism.😂
Moron. You half wit :)
If you're paranoid about theft with the non-PATS key, you can buy a clutch pedal lock which prevents the clutch from being fully depressed to start the engine. It's a little cumbersome to lock/unlock the clutch pedal everytime you park, but it's the price you pay for more peace of mind. Unlikely anyone is going to steal the truck if they have to break into truck someway and then find a way to cut off the pedal lock.
How do you get the tumblers out if you cannot turn the key?
It works, why not? Thanks.
Hey what do think about it was change & I change the solenoid under the hood against the firewall but SomeXs it start & someXs it doesn’t start,can U give me another solution it could be.. thanks in advance!!
It could be a number of things. For me it was the fuel pump on its way out. I did a video about that here: th-cam.com/video/3rSUSkrxncI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LUqJq1dKNi_I_R__
I just changed my lock this am and it wouldnt start now I know why thks
another option is motocraft's keyable ingnition cylinders. they are more expensive than the doorman option, but cheaper than getting keys programed. it's a good option if you want your doors and ignition keyed alike.
Use a Dremel to grind out a properly sized section in the new key, insert the transponder, seal in with epoxy.
I'm heading out to replace it now. Problem is, My battery is dead, and no way to recharge or jump it. I'm hoping to see if a neighbor will jump it, because it's a new battery. I hv a feeling this is going to work! I'll let u know. Thank u.
Thanks for the note, and good luck with the truck!
@Buckwsr IT was actually a PT Cruiser Turbo Convertable. And IT WORKED!!!! Got a jump, held the key for now, and after months of no start, I actually replaced the ignition myself (only with your help), jumped it, and it cranked right up!!! Woohoo! Thanks again!
@@juliebrent4547 Great job! You did it yourself and saved a bunch of money! What a great feeling!
Can I do this without replacing the cylinder?
If you have two keys with transponders you can program two more keys to the engine computer. Just cut two new transponder keys to match your lock. Use a combination of key and transponders to get into setup and then insert the new keys to programs them.
Better, have a locksmith rekey your lock cylinder to your old keys. They just change the pins.
I did this to install a remote start
My son lost my keys to my 01 gt. I need a chip so i can install this new ignition where do i get one?
Love the video, love the idea... however, anytime the keys get lost there is no record of a keycode. Decode your new key and write the keycode down near the vin sticker in the door jamb, on the title and maybe in the owners manual. This will save you from having to change the ignition everything the keys get lost.
Glad I saw this - I was going to just swap barrels.
What you need is a VATS Bypass module. It's a pack of resistes that you hard wire into the harness on the Anti theft side of the body controll module. It will fool the computer into thinking the signal is OK and then you can use a standard key to start. If you do this, the bypass module will have 3wires, power ground and 5 volt signal. Put a rocker switch on the ground side of the module, and then hide that in the car. Now you've effectively made a car "disconect" switch. You can leave the key in the ignition, windows open and no thief will be able to start the car. It mimcs an engine computer swap, that has to be programmed by the dealer, and the computer thinks it's being stolen, and disables spark/fuel.
Sorry billk9628, but VATS was General Motors, NOT Ford and was discontinued 25-30 years ago. Completely different technology.
Awesome video thanks for sharing
So I had just bought a 02 Taurus se recently and had a nightmare story to go along with it. I hope to try and figure it out soon if any one has suggestions that would be appreciated. So I started the car fine backed it out of its space and then turned it of. I had went to the store with a friend in his car and upon my return to the car I lost the single transponder key! I couldn’t find it and didn’t trust the people who were around that they hadn’t found it and were lying to me just to then steal my car later when I had left. After destroying the ignition lock colander I had found the key! I had cracked the transceiver and am having a hard time getting the flashing theft light to turn off so I can start my vehicle . Help anyone. Is it a matter of getting a new transceiver?
Very smart. I lost my key any suggestions?
Without the key, it's gonna be a bit of a challenge to remove the lock cylinder because you're supposed to turn it to the "run" position to remove the cylinder. Then, you'll need to get one of those dorman lock cylinders that includes the chip key and a dongle to plug into the OBDII port and re-program the computer to the new key. Not sure if that's a great idea, or if you should get some locksmith help on this one.... Good luck.
I like your gear shift cylinder.....
I never liked it very much. Here's the video on changing it out and going back to a stock shifter knob. th-cam.com/video/Xx0DyYIxcao/w-d-xo.html
Great if u have the old key cylinder n key.
Yeah it's going to work. That's the first thing I do every time I buy a new truck. I go out and have non-transponder keys made, and then I break off the transponder from the original key and tape it to the steering column.
I've been doing this for decades. I mean, I'm about to watch the video. But it's starting with the question as to whether or not it's going to work.
It's going to work.
And right you are! It worked like a charm and continues flawlessly to this day. Thank you!
That's awsone.... thank you... for sharing that's a great idea... 👍
great video
My brother did it, and it works
My key doesn't have the "offset" yours does.
Anyone know where the transponder is in the newer keys?
I have an 08 Ranger.
Nice work!
I wonder if you could have just taken the whole key (without removing the chip) and placed in the column where you glued the chip
You can order a key fob for your truck is easily paired there's a video on how to pair it on TH-cam very easy.
There is no key fob. Never had one. This truck has no power locks or power windows. Old school....
I took the Ring out of the lock
Reinstalled the lock.
I zip tied the key in the ring and zipped it to the under steering wheel dash, as I didn’t want to rekey the doors.
Now any key keyed will run my truck.
I shut it off and the PATs light keeps flashing on dash looking stock.
I bought some old Ford Keys and had the hdwr dealer cut them
For me. Again looking stock and no one be the wiser.
Great idea
How to remove cylinder when the key will go in, but will not turn? Also, cut rubber housing off old key attach transponder to new key and cover with rubber from old key.
Nice I paid 80$ year ago for a second Key. Now tumbler are getting worn so I need to get a new set up. I'll probably do this my self as well because one of my Keys is broken and you an see the transponder . The stupid thing is ever car in the past 25 + year has the transponders, so how is it so many cars and truck get stolen ever month?
Good idea.
What about when you lose the key to
Luv it! I would have done the same thing, just because I can.🤠
Exactly, and it is still working flawlessly for me!
IT WORKS. I HAD A KEY WITH NO RESPONDER.
USE KEY WITH *RESPONDER TOUCH KEY IGNITION. USE CAR KEY WITH NO RESPONDER TURNED AND BLEW MY MIND IT STARTED CAR. THIS BLANK CAR KEY ONLT OPENS CAR DOOR. FIRST TIME IT STARTED CAR🎉. YOU CAN'T MEASURE COMON SENSE. YOU JUST HAVE IT.
No issues??
It does not always work, did everything as suggested could not find a spot the chip would work except in the original key with the original cylinder..... my truck is 2002 don't know if that matters.
Mine is still working flawlessly.
Great job pal :-)
Question, if your insurance agent sees this video will your insurance go up?
It wont work on all makes, one of note is the suburu that wont let you lock your keys in the car if the sensor reads the key in the ignition.
Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Good job, Dude! :D :D :D
Know, what do you use to open your door to get in?
Yeah, so like I said in the video, you can buy lock cylinders that come with door locks to match and use the same key, but I'm fine with carrying two keys....the original one to unlock the doors, and the new one for the ignition. You know, just like in the old days when GM cars came with two keys, a square headed key for the ignition, and a round headed key for the door locks......
@@Buckwsryep, my 89 Chevy Caprice Classic has the 2 keys and I never found it to be a big deal!
@@MrNiccholas Great car you got there!
@@Buckwsr yes it is! It's super special to me, it was my Great Grandfather's last daily driver. He bought it in 1991 with about 10,000 miles on it and it now has about 125,000 miles. The engine still runs great! No real body or frame damage. It needs a coat of paint and quite a bit of interior restoration, but my plan is to work on that as I have time and money! I just think it's really cool to have my Great Grandfather's last car! Lots of family history, memories, and stories.
Brilliant 🔥
You did a good job but I would have not went as far as you did when I got the key cylinder off I took the tumbler plate off breaking out which springs were broken and left them in the Tumblr out not leaving all of Mount so it's still locks but enough it was still function that's how I would have done it what have saved a lot of money not bye-bye in another locking cylinder key
Good.
I think I'll just glue the chip to my new key 🔑
Thank you sir !!
Ha! I vote genius. Thanks for your post.
Great information.
Silicone spray into keyhole ?
??? Explain please
I would have transferred key pins from the OEM lock to the new lock. On most lock bodies, that isn't very hard to do.
I just became stranded at the Aldi's parking lot because my 2002 F-150 wouldn't start because of the anti security lock system. It wouldn't reset this time by doing the little trick stated in the owners manual. It worked twice before but not this time.
I was hoping there was a way to disable the system.
I tried both keys and it still wouldn't start. I'm thinking the problem is somewhere in the computer not sensing the key. I'm not going to pay a tow truck 200 bucks to bring it to the dealership either.
Hi, it might also be a faulty crankshaftposition sensor. Regards
I have a 2008 F150 Ford that I lost the fucking key and the anti-theft will not let it start. How do I bypass it without the key I put a new cylinder in it with a new key that doesn’t have the.
Without the key, I think you're going to need the assistance of a locksmith or the Ford dealer, unfortunately.
@@Buckwsr Exactly! Your video title is misleading. You still need the chipped key to make this work, whether you cut the chip out or simply stash the whole key or just the head of it inside the column somewhere. Your video title makes it look like you don't need the chip key whatsoever and to simply replace the lock cylinder. I can see why esperanzavaldez5204 asked the question, as for someone who lost their key and did a search, your title makes it sound like the solution is easier said than done. Yeah, you make it known in the video, but you wasted others time if they don't have an original key from the vehicle and are looking for their answer.
I had a 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee I lost the key went to the junkyard and got the PCM and the ignition switch and the ignition key from the same year model vehicle saved big bucks working fine not hard to change the computer module all for around 50.00 bucks 4 screws and a wire harness on the firewall to change the computer module
Why didn't you put the chip in the new key?
I just the stuck key in about the same spot. That way I didn't take a chance of damaging the chip.
Called dealer today for ignition switch and lock cylinder replacement. $700.
Good Idea!
Genius! I will do this on mine.
Dam nice vid
That was amazing ty
Nice...
😊brilliant
So technically speaking, if you didn't need a new ignition switch due to mechanical problems, you could have just gotten 2 standard keys cut that turns the switch to all positions, and glue the one good transponder near the reader? Thanks for the idea. We have just one ugly but working chip key. For a really good high mileage car that at best is a $2400 car. Things add up keeping it on the road. If it exceeds a monthly car payment to fix anything, we might part ways. But hope not. Using economy cars their full life is way more environmentally logical than new cars. Secondary parts markets are jobs, too.
I like the way you think! Good luck with the truck!
Can anyone assist me?