How to Approach as Marth - Super Smash Bros. Melee

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  • @MrHitchslap
    @MrHitchslap 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The real secret hidden Marth approach is short hop counter

  • @SimonTheDigger
    @SimonTheDigger 8 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    Who the hell just admits to being Kira so often??? XD

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  8 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      +Simon The Digger True the real Kira would never let that happen =P

    • @Zach61O6
      @Zach61O6 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      +SSBM Tutorials but that's the trick now no one suspects you of being the real kira the mindgame tho

    • @MrWeclaw8
      @MrWeclaw8 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +SSBM Tutorials DEATHHH NOTTEEE

    • @LightYagami-cf1tb
      @LightYagami-cf1tb 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +SSBM Tutorials I wouldn't.

    • @williamtheodorou7466
      @williamtheodorou7466 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stfu light yagami. Jk

  • @alexanderstilianov
    @alexanderstilianov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Mew2King: Nair in approach is almost unpunishable and pretty much free
    Kira: Do not Nair in approach

    • @santiagogarcia8437
      @santiagogarcia8437 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      When did he say tgat

    • @xtremer_daredevil5950
      @xtremer_daredevil5950 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@santiagogarcia8437late but the one video from MVG channel with M2k teaching Salem Melee marth

  • @Gamesforus1
    @Gamesforus1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    4:03 You had ONE job Falco.

  • @skitzwah
    @skitzwah 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    THANK GOD I found your videos.
    I'm very young as a Smasher, and you giving me tips on Melee can helps in the long run.

    • @spacedp
      @spacedp 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too, well i started playing Melee in 2006 but returned in 2013 so i'm considered pretty new especially to melee since i got back playing 64 and Brawl in 2013.

  • @DefiantWrecks
    @DefiantWrecks 9 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    "Sick movement" _cough cough PP's Neutral._ Can we also talk about approaching with short hop N-air vs Falco?

    • @JoshDoes
      @JoshDoes 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +DefyPls Yeah pp does that with the jump a

  • @BorgieBabyxx
    @BorgieBabyxx 9 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Well now I know not to nair like a maniac in my approach now lol

    • @kennethzheng3735
      @kennethzheng3735 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I make all of those noob mistakes. Frick gotta go practice

    • @cova_2715
      @cova_2715 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ZeldaGamer08 I just find it funny how he says thats a common mistake for noob marths but shows clips of the best marth in the world doing it lol

    • @mojolito
      @mojolito 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and getting hit for doing it

    • @cova_2715
      @cova_2715 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mojolito that wasn't the point lol. he said "noob" marths yet m2k and pp were doing it in recent times on top of that

    • @mojolito
      @mojolito 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think Kira is implying that m2k and pp are noobs obviously, it was just examples where they did it and got punished for it. Just because you're the best in the world doesn't mean you'll always play correctly.

  • @kenji3527
    @kenji3527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe not the grab and wave dash stuff but the wall out from center stage and drift back Nair also the down tilt as a pressure tool really did help me

  • @ThisIsWEB
    @ThisIsWEB 9 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    [obligatory d-tilt praise, slices bread etc. etc.]

    • @Thunder_Mlee
      @Thunder_Mlee 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +ThisIsWEB [also spreads butter]

  • @master_productions
    @master_productions 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Well fuck. Short hop neutral air has been my main approach option all this time....
    Now I have to try to stop my habit god dammit.

    • @TheDragDavid
      @TheDragDavid 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      F smash F smash F smash F smash... Its time for a change

    • @master_productions
      @master_productions 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +TheDragDavid Yeah I used to F smash all the time but I fixed that a while ago

    • @mansonwong5676
      @mansonwong5676 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Master Productions You can still do it, PPMD, Mango, most marths use neutral airs in the neutral

    • @master_productions
      @master_productions 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Manson Wong Yeah I still do it but I used to do nair way too much and I fixed myself.

    • @MrWeclaw8
      @MrWeclaw8 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      same!

  • @anicepop
    @anicepop 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    things to focus on as a Marth player:
    Movement (dash dance, SHIELD STOPS, AERIAL DRIFT)
    Spacing (forward smash, up tilt, grab range)
    and no forward smash is NOT a terrible move.. just don't spam it. Using too many up tilts is basically doing the same thing as using too many forward smashes.. just mix em up

  • @Yippeekaii
    @Yippeekaii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Next video: How to approach marth. *Y O U D O N T*

  • @RubicHead
    @RubicHead 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the Marth videos, great stuff!

  • @albertbermingham6669
    @albertbermingham6669 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    How to approach marth

  • @drakedoesgamez4927
    @drakedoesgamez4927 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    marth punish game?

  • @stayontrack
    @stayontrack 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nair approach is pretty good dude

    • @GameDroid98
      @GameDroid98 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +SkaterLauro It's good if your opponent has shitty movement. Nair (if it wiffs) has high end lag, so if they dash dance out of the way or just shield it, you're left severely vulnerable because Marth doesn't have very fast secondary options to cover himself (the fastest options you have are grab, jab, or d-tilt maybe, but your opponent should be able to squeeze in a punish like dash dance grab before you can execute these). That being said, when I play friendlies it can work, but that says more about the level of play me and my peers are at then anything.

    • @stayontrack
      @stayontrack 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +GameDroid98 sorry but that's wrong, nair autocancels so there's only 4 frames of landing lag, and when shuffled it's 3 frames more but it's really safe and you can instant act out of the autocanel nair. I would recommend nair towards them and immediately dash away behind them. That's not easy to punish.

    • @GameDroid98
      @GameDroid98 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It basically entirely depends on their spacing. If you notice on the video, Armada and Leffen are basically in the tightest spacing possible to not get hit by approaching nair. If they are in that space, it takes 4 frames to land and Marth's fastest move (jab) comes out in 3 frame. So 7 frames at fastest, which if you're capable of pulling off tight spacing, this is not a difficult punish window, especially since approaching nair and fair is essentially the same spacing, but nair has no opportunity for mixups. However, if they are too far away from the nair when it wiffs (lets say a dash length or two away), then yes dash back or another option would make it relatively safe.
      It's just why would you do nair when you can do fair? With fair you can do double fair to catch approaches if you don't fast fall it, or you can fast fall the first fair and then do a grounded option. And then you have all the drift options available to you, as well as the option to mixup between a high or low fair, where as nair takes too long to have these mixups.

    • @stayontrack
      @stayontrack 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I see your point, fair approach is indeed better. And I realized i basically don't really approach with nair at all, I use it to keep them away by putting out this hitbox with low landing lag, and as you said it's pretty good when there's some distance. I still think an occasional nair approach is pretty good. It's hard to cc and if you get the hit it leads into a lot of things, although fair and dtilt should still be the main approach. Also I like to not approach and make them approach me. Oh and I need to look up marth's dash frames do you know them by any chance?

    • @GameDroid98
      @GameDroid98 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +SkaterLauro Typically whenever I'm looking for frame data, you can Google "Marth Melee frame data" and the smashboard thread that contains it should be one of the first results. There are also some apps that have animations of frame data that let you slow down and look at the animations in detail if you have an android device

  • @TheSilentPassion
    @TheSilentPassion 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Should I make any adjustments to this when facing Link? I've tried a ton of different approaches in that matchup, but Link seems to have an easy answer for all three approaches you mentioned (dash-dance grab is hell to try on Link, especially on small stages). Marth also has a pretty laggy spot dodge, so I'm wondering how else to deal with Link's projectiles and advances without overusing shield or using spot dodges that open me up to punishes.

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Josh Proctor You can use shield just fine as long as you act out of it quickly and close the gap. Honestly you can take 1 or 2 projectile hits and even up the percent easily, can even CC the boomerang at closer ranges. You can also swing at the boomerang to hit it away.

    • @TheSilentPassion
      @TheSilentPassion 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you also CC bombs? My friend is slick with his bomb usage and it's pretty much how he sets up all his combos. I've gotten in the habit of not using a lot of CC.
      Swinging makes sense. I forget how much damage Link's projectiles all do, but could forward tilt clink or stop all of them?

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can CC bombs but i think it would just be better to shield or avoid them, they can only travel in certain directions. you can ftilt or jab or fair all of them pretty sure

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      look up some good marths like m2k or the moon and see what they do vs link

    • @TheSilentPassion
      @TheSilentPassion 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +SSBM Tutorials hey, just tried to find some videos of the matchup. I watched tai get destroyed by germ and the moon get beat by saus. Even in the matches they won, they were almost always losing until the very end. It looked like the moon had a lot of trouble with it, and he's one of the best marth's right, correct?
      I found a video of PPU beating a Link I'd never heard of, but he still had trouble. I couldn't find any videos of M2K against Link. Do you know of any I could find? There's only so many Links that are even close to his level.

  • @chub4109
    @chub4109 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey guys kira here i just want to say that this is awesome

  • @k14pc
    @k14pc 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not saying nair approach a lot is good, but what about sometimes? It beats spot dodge which is super good against marth. What do you think?

  • @1001011011010
    @1001011011010 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You say to not approach with nair, but what about a retreating nair? If you do it at the apex of a short hop it ends so there's no lag. It's usually pretty solid

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      autocancel retreating or in-place nair is great

    • @1001011011010
      @1001011011010 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, you really do read every comment! Thanks.

    • @sean4850
      @sean4850 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +1OO1O11O11O1O kiera is always here

  • @MetalSlimeDrummer
    @MetalSlimeDrummer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eyyy Elliti was here, Dark Souls OG

  • @Sago016
    @Sago016 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just found this channel. Good stuff kira :3

  • @lunaticbugz
    @lunaticbugz 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can anyone help me in the neutral against falco i find myself getting lasered alot or/and when i shield the lasers the person i'm playing begins to lay down shield pressure which i'm not sure what options i have against multi shines and waveshines. I know powershielding is a good option but what other options are good?

    • @k14pc
      @k14pc 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +lunaticbugz if the falco doesn't know how to get real low lasers you can just dash in and d-tilt. your dash goes under laser if the falco doesn't get em low.

    • @lunaticbugz
      @lunaticbugz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +k14pc Thanks i'll try that :p
      any other options you have that might be useful?

    • @k14pc
      @k14pc 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      against good falco/fox shine pressure you don't have many options. i think your best bet is a well timed roll. the moon has a marth tutorial where he goes into this a bit, it's on youtube.

    • @GameDroid98
      @GameDroid98 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +lunaticbugz Do not, I repeat, DO NOT LET FALCO LOCK YOU DOWN. This is really difficult and takes a lot of practice, but every laser you shield or dodge you should immediately wavedash out of shield or in some way get out of that situation before Falco starts his shield pressure. Once Falco starts his pressure on his shield, he is in an extremely advantageous situation. If you notice Falco is lasering a lot, try going to a platform and waiting there. Eventually the Falco will get impatient and come to you. Or if they do a laser from across the stage, either shield the laser, let it hit you, or jump over it, then wavedash or dash toward them. If you have 20XX, practice moving out of shield while a Falco repeatedly lasers.

    • @lunaticbugz
      @lunaticbugz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      GameDroid98 Thanks i figured out after a while while in tourney to beat high lasers duck under with down tilt or dash attack. and just jump over and forward air to lower lasers (if falco is near that is)

  • @Bl3zzz
    @Bl3zzz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    damn these things are to advanced for me, i just began to play like 2 weeks ago

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      check our "how to learn melee" playlist

    • @Bl3zzz
      @Bl3zzz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ep 1 is already complex for me, I think it's the lingo. I just have to continue playing and hate myself for not discovering this game any sooner.

    • @csmash342
      @csmash342 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Grizzly876 4 years later checking in. Are you a beast now?
      I just started playing yesterday.

  • @TheSpartanondrugs
    @TheSpartanondrugs 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a small error, but Marth actually can't shield during his IASA frames, so the information given at 1:05 is off.

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Jacoby Studlyson I literally shield during IASA frames in the video, don't see how that's incorrect

    • @TheSpartanondrugs
      @TheSpartanondrugs 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      u raise a valid point i suppose

    • @sean4850
      @sean4850 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Jacoby Studlyson lmao jacoby

  • @n10do
    @n10do 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fsmash in neutral is not that bad. It's a decent mixup against opponents who like to DD out of dtilt range. Fsmash is also one of Marth's only moves that forces a knockdown on spacies at low %, leading to good tech chase opportunities. DD fsmash keeps the integrity of your DD game by making opponents respect your space. When used intelligently, fsmash is a good tool in neutral.

    • @voltekka47
      @voltekka47 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +Nhat Do If your opponent is really bad, that is.

    • @jamessierpinski3617
      @jamessierpinski3617 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don't need to actually F-Smash to make opponents respect your DD. Generally, players know to respect Marth's DD, so, you won't be F-smashing in neutral very often against them, or never...

  • @Kaurosu
    @Kaurosu 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yooo guys you already know, its me Kira

  • @nicholasfarrington6221
    @nicholasfarrington6221 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you please make a guide on Marth's offensive options? I have particular trouble in that area.

    • @jamessierpinski3617
      @jamessierpinski3617 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a vague request, though...There are many situations in which you might call an offensive option, ex (punishes, followups, edgeguarding...and more).

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      check our "how to approach with marth" videos

    • @bladefox5082
      @bladefox5082 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      that is literally what this video is

  • @celticwind4122
    @celticwind4122 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Lol i consider myself a fairly good player but i use my nair to appraoch almost religiously, it really is a bad habit haha.

  • @carterbergland9264
    @carterbergland9264 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:52 could someone explain how exactly you get the red sword for marth? I looked through the setting on dolphins and couldn’t find it

    • @terasai_
      @terasai_ 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      its a gecko code, but for this i think kira was using the 20XX training mod

  • @ryanspadafina4077
    @ryanspadafina4077 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I main marth and this came out on my birthday

  • @NevertahnProduction
    @NevertahnProduction 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    what if im not a pro player and i still want to be good at marth? do i need to know everything you are talking about and learn all these moves? cant you make the explaining part easier for me?

    • @lelouchdagoat4477
      @lelouchdagoat4477 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Éclat I'd recommend watching this video if you are confused about any terminology used in this video. Just search it up, and it should be the first video that pops up. Hope it helps!
      SSBM: Advanced How To Play tutorial video (Complete)

  • @SeEyMoReBuTtS
    @SeEyMoReBuTtS 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:53 is shield grabbable though

    • @sizzle5775
      @sizzle5775 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      123peeonyou Marth's d-tilt usually beats out grabs.

    • @AkirDK
      @AkirDK 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      if it's spaced even a little bit then you won't be getting shield grabbed often except in the ditto because dtilt covers way more space than most grabs

  • @BlindingBlackout
    @BlindingBlackout 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I tend to approach with fairs too much and get shieldgrabbed a lot as a result, any good tips to break this habit?

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  9 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      BlindingBlackout every time you want to approach with fair, run up and grab instead

    • @JesseDumontt
      @JesseDumontt 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +BlindingBlackout Yeah, just mix it up. That simple. Don't be predictable.

    • @Sullyzorz2
      @Sullyzorz2 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +BlindingBlackout A really good marth strategy that i learned from SephirothKen is to approach them and do a close rising fair, quickly fastfall L cancel and dash through them and grab from behind. Done properly you will be behind them once their shield lag ends and wont be able to shield grab you. This is something every marth player should be using.

    • @Akiironzo
      @Akiironzo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Sullyzorz2 Thanks for sharing this. It's helped me out a lot.

    • @AlmestrandMusic
      @AlmestrandMusic 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Sullyzorz2 Rising fair is NOT safe on shield, Ken says to do it as late as possible to be able to dash through during the shield stun. SH double fair should work I guess.

  • @seantran1669
    @seantran1669 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    For rising short hop Fair, is it better to use the c-stick or just pressing A button?

    • @cova_2715
      @cova_2715 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sean Tran if you have fast hands then I would prefer using the control stick and A rather then the c stick. I can use the c stick but only going from left to right. I cant do it going from right to left. so it depends on whats more comfortable ig

  • @ymsmash9526
    @ymsmash9526 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    how about dash attacks as an approach? im pretty sure it can be used but how often should i used it compared to the options listed here? is it bad like nair approach?

    • @maxono1465
      @maxono1465 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      YMSmash only really useful in the ditto to punish dash back if you read it
      its very laggy but it has good range and speed
      its not that useful in other matchups because dashback is not as common/ can be punished with better options

  • @mhmmmmmmm
    @mhmmmmmmm 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    dash-dance grab

  • @simonshugar1651
    @simonshugar1651 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is marth nair approach bad? I can't seem to find why anywhere

    • @7dogguy
      @7dogguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you get dash dance grabbed

  • @chrispham6599
    @chrispham6599 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question: if they see you approaching with down tilt, then wouldn't they just wave dash out of shield (or short hop double jump cancel Nair if you're peach)?

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if you're from that far away sure, but it's pretty fast and hard to react to.
      Also you wouldn't want to wavedash out of shield I think they want to do an aerial over it (depending on character ofc). For example peach would rather do a low float just above the dtilt hitbox and nair rather than a double jump cancel

    • @chrispham6599
      @chrispham6599 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      SSBM Tutorials Right!

  • @canadienbodybuilder3656
    @canadienbodybuilder3656 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    People to watch for Marth is Ken and The Moon.

  • @DammitBobby
    @DammitBobby 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are some ways to help oneself with not using their sheild to often?

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      replace it with another action. like jump or dash or attack

  • @professorpick
    @professorpick 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    so what should do instead of holding shield? DD or just jump away?

    • @Littled0013
      @Littled0013 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      sketch nin Or Wavedash Oos... almost always better than the roll option.

  • @magicc1204
    @magicc1204 9 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    i was gonna sub until you told me to
    #rebellife

  • @alexpytel4495
    @alexpytel4495 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    what does rising in the rising forward air mean?

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      do the forward air as soon as possible. aka while you are still moving upwards from your jump

  • @roysmash943
    @roysmash943 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can these techniques apply to Roy as well? Or is it completely different?

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some of them can, some cannot

  • @7dogguy
    @7dogguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    not enough info we needed stuff on overshooting and understooting

  • @djpj-oy4lk
    @djpj-oy4lk 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I REALLY struggle when chain grabbing and getting chain grabbed, first of all Im bad at starting a chain grab because when ever i try, the opponent either jumps away and punishes me or rolls and punishes me, and Im PRETTY sure i cant stop them from punishing me, second of all when i start the chain grab and throw them up, they start to di in this REALLY inpradictable way so i instantly end the chain, third of all when i get chain grabbed i try to di every way i can, yet i still get chained until i get to a percentage that i can get knocked out of the stage, if anyone can help me with this i would REALLY appreciate it. thank you

    • @djpj-oy4lk
      @djpj-oy4lk 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      sorry for da capital really

    • @victortan25
      @victortan25 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      The reason you can't get the grab in is probably because it's too obvious that you'rw going for the grab. Try approaching with other options instead untill a grab becomes unpredictable again. Otherwise, practice your movement. Marth movement's amazing so you can easily bait out attacks and then grab punish them (always jump cancel your grabs btw). As far as escaping chain grabs go there's not much more you can do. Look at a lot of M2K's matches, once he gets a grab there's just no escaping no matter how good you DI. If anything, you must try to keep your DI super unpredictable. So avoid any and all patterns or habits. And lastly, chain grabbing at a high level is based on reaction time and muscle memory so my tip is to just keep practicing and it will come eventually. Practicing on 20XX cpu's with random DI helps a lot with this. Hope I helped a bit

    • @djpj-oy4lk
      @djpj-oy4lk 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Victor Tan thanks for the advice

  • @Sailor570
    @Sailor570 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Starts with "S" and ends with "uscribe"? SSBM what is that word????

    • @TreebeardXIV
      @TreebeardXIV 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Suscribe, I don't think that's a word but ok.

  • @juliwomp
    @juliwomp 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you up tilt without jumping I can't seem to do it

    • @MinecrafterK3N
      @MinecrafterK3N 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      EcHo_aWAITs
      If you're having a hard time up-tilting, I suggest performing a move before it, holding your control stick up while Marth is still in the lag of that move, then pressing A. An easy way to learn it is forward smash->up tilt, while a more applicable one is shield->wavedash->up-tilt.

    • @romannoodles5856
      @romannoodles5856 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      EcHo_aWAITs tilt the stick very slightly upward

  • @longevitee
    @longevitee 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Or you could play like Borp.

  • @jamsixcabrera1
    @jamsixcabrera1 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey add a link combo or how to practice video thanks !

  • @erike.rodriguez1031
    @erike.rodriguez1031 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do u do fair, nair

  • @jdotcash
    @jdotcash 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    officially might be a mid-level marth based on this vid

  • @skullo5557
    @skullo5557 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do a vid on how to transfer from tap jump to button jump plz

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try really hard

    • @skullo5557
      @skullo5557 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +SSBM Tutorials thanks I've been practicing a lot and I've gotten better :)

  • @valortryhard5914
    @valortryhard5914 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if I do good forward smashing in my neutral game?

    • @Plernatious
      @Plernatious 9 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Play better people.

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      VaLoR TryHard Yeah what Plernatious said. If you Fsmash well then good for you, but most likely you are just playing bad people.

    • @2Minihats
      @2Minihats 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Forward smash isn't a bad move. Ask PewPewU

    • @2Minihats
      @2Minihats 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Having said that.
      Marth has way better ways of approaching than just f-smashing

    • @JesseDumontt
      @JesseDumontt 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Culton Ruey I'm sure he said it was good, but not in neutral obviously. You can only use forward smash when in combos, or edgeguarding really, otherwise you'll get punished hard (if you're play good people of course) as seen in the video.

  • @deezknives
    @deezknives 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ROY NEUTRAL GAME!!! Please

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Deez Knives Basically like Marth except all your aerials are terrible. So dashdance/movement stuff, dtilts, and grab

    • @deezknives
      @deezknives 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      SSBM Tutorials
      Thx Mane

    • @deezknives
      @deezknives 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      SSBM Tutorials What does Roy have that Marth doesn't?

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      dtilt that combos, somewhat better neutral b, counter kills. not much else tbh

  • @swizzdo
    @swizzdo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    More doc videos

  • @trouncerrredits
    @trouncerrredits 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    can we just start calling up air 'uair' pronounced like 'where'?

  • @jomarpablo3171
    @jomarpablo3171 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    falcon combos

  • @yudods1448
    @yudods1448 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm here since Roy is similar to marth

    • @NicholasSunderland
      @NicholasSunderland 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love Roy lol. Just an FYI, rising sh fair isn't as great for stopping grounded attacks bc his far spaced Aerials don't have much hitstun. If you autocancel them you can make them useful though, ie rising fair/nair to stop first approach, autocancel land into dash dance grab to stop their immediate second approach

  • @arakanichigou3582
    @arakanichigou3582 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just grab

  • @midocrimsonfate1948
    @midocrimsonfate1948 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    One more mistake that scrubs make like me make is upthrow up tilt at low percents

  • @quinoa8074
    @quinoa8074 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:20
    :)

  • @mojolito
    @mojolito 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    secret. hidden. op. technique
    (sh fair).
    . . .

    • @matthewg4505
      @matthewg4505 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      rising

    • @mojolito
      @mojolito 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewg4505 much secret very yes

  • @kenji3527
    @kenji3527 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This helped me with playing marth in ultimate wow

  • @96wtfomg
    @96wtfomg 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you approach as Marth? You don't lol

  • @ocarinalover1214
    @ocarinalover1214 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zain

  • @kidmalphisto9126
    @kidmalphisto9126 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    this video did not age well lol

  • @Atomsk91286
    @Atomsk91286 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First