Solved: SeaDoo Won't Start
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- Troubleshooting and repairing a starter problem on a Sea Doo Jet Ski. The engine doesn't crank when you hit the button so we trace the problem to a bad ground wire and repair the JetSki.
Introducing my neighbor and good friend Ed.
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Looks like parts of your wear ring came out the back
Yes, a huge mess! You should see how bad the housing was corroded from salt water exposure. Here's the autopsy and repair: th-cam.com/video/WMmMT0N-fmU/w-d-xo.html
I’m just trying to find out how to fix my jet ski but y’all are entertaining the hell out of me😂
Funny stuff, what great friends do together. Keeping it real. Also this assisted me today with a 98 GTI. Dirty cable end at the starter. Fixed in 5 minutes. Thanks a million
Glad it helped out Danny. There's something about a damp bilge that raises heck with electrical connections.
5 years later and still love the orange!! great video guys!!
This video saved me today. I watched it 4 days ago and got to water today and "click click" I knew it was negative cable from ur video. Banged it and it started. Thank you
I’m so happy to hear that it helped out. We played around a lot filming this one and I probably could have shared more details but at least the main idea came across. I have now personally encountered this problem on four occasions, all on 20+ year old skis. It drove me crazy the first time until I figured it out.
The Orange is the best part of the whole SeaDoo
I love the orange! This is the best session I've found to try on my GTi. I'm going over this evening after work and get it tested.
Good luck! I see variations on the design from time to time and some of them are way better than my attempt. Would love to see how yours turns out!
Just stumbled upon your videos... very professional and very informative hope you keep making them. Thanks
Thank you Joseph. It's great to have you here.
You 2 are goofballs! Love it… I typically don’t have a stand up comedian partner when I’m doing my videos
You guys r having too much fun! Great vid, thanks guys!
I felt like I was there with you. Thank you.
I LOVE THE ORANGE!!!!! And y'all are hilarious 😂. I am happy I stumbled on to this video. I'm trying to fix my 96 GTS. And I found very few videos for that ski. Recently watched one video that this kid made. I Was so BORED, to the point of me falling asleep while on the 💩-er. Fell forward, woke up just in the nick of time to stop my fall. Scared the 💩 out of my Catahoula cur dog sleeping at my feet. To point, he pissed all over the damn floor. /facepalm. Soooooo. Yeah. This video was awesome
Thanks Steve awesome video and thanks for the humour :)
Haha! I need neighbors like you guys.
My wife and I are just now getting into the Seadoo scene, been watching your vids and learning stuff...thanks and tell the dude with no sense of style that the orange makes the machine! let me guess, he already took it off, replaced it with some boring color. Dammit, I hate that, lol
The dude with no sense of style...I love it!
You guys are hilarious! BTW...Love the Orange!
Awesome! What do you say we sneak over and camo Ed's mower with orange highlights when he's not home?
See that, Ed? She likes the orange!
Was contemplating a new battery but instead Im goin after the ground wire right now. Thanks Steve and friend
Bryan, Your ohm meter will answer the ground wire question fast. You will want to make sure that the engine and jet pump can be turned (even a little bit) by hand. If one is siezed you could get a click and no start. Good luck!
You guys are fun thanks for the info I had that same problem this video fix it 👍
Love your content!
I wish you guys were my neighbors. We would totally rock the hood.
You know we would!
Another great video.
Oh and the orange looks great!
Thanks man my jet ski is running great now!
Congrats. Plenty of summer left to ride too!
My ski gives me multiple clicks when I hit the button not just one
Gotta say, great video. I needed that.
Thanks Aaron. I needed that.
You guys are crazy! i like it!
Thank you, you guys were made for each other.... more beer.
That was a fun video to make. Probably should have focused more on the project at hand, but we were enjoying ourselves. Thanks for watching!
"If I'm wrong then you'll never see this video " friend off camera *laughs historically * lol 😆 great beer review too
My First Time Coming Across Your Channel, You Two Are Hilarious, I Enjoyed This Video...Both You Guys Should Continue To Do Repair Videos In This Fashion.
The orange was the perfect touch 👌
Love the orange!
Cool vid .. a little goofy but I think that was the idea. Good info though !! Oh, and yes, orange looks great :)
This is why you should use welding cable and adhesive lined heat shrinks on connections like we use in water well. The connections will last forever and never let moisture in the wire. And welding cable is rated for hot, cold, wet, abrasion and transfers power better many fine strands ofc of course.
You have good friend!
Thank you Mr. President. He's a hoot!
Very informative
Thank you steve
I love the orange with camo
LOL you guys are hilarious and yes orange is the way to go LOL
love it.......nice work boys....!!
I made and installed a new ground wire on both of my 97' GTI's.......both were about rusted through
Sweeet!
Yes love the orange
Love that gator orange, mine seadoo is doing the same thing.
Would love to see your ski when it's done! BTW, somebody in my family advised me that the color is closer to Auburn orange. War Eagle! Seriously though, any SEC orange will make your ski 5-10 kts faster.
love the ORANGE..... GO VOLS!!!
On my 1998 waventure , after I assembles it and put back together the carbs I took it out and it would still bog down at high speeds but I noticed if I idle it with the primer pushed in fully it would start and then as I accelerate and I slowly pull out the primer it would go at higher speeds just fine. I’ve done some research but can’t seem to find any new information on how I can get the carburetor to work without me having to mess with the primer. 👍
Hahahaha, that was very entertaining! Ohms on your ground cable is never good, plastic out the back is even worse. Combine that with twisted probe wires, and it is time for a good beer. :-)
gonna go pick up 2 ski's, one with MAYBE this issue, hopefully this video helps me!
Looking forward to seeing how they turn out. Gonna replace that drift charm on your WRX with a trailer hitch?
Picked up 2 different skies for a good price! both look good and run great!
and the funniest part is I'm looking into that !
but your video restoring this thing inspired me to get my own!
LOL! I subbed so that I don’t miss an STI with a trailer if it happens. Great channel BTW.
I love the orange Ed!!!
That's two up-votes for orange...Ed.
Love the orange, no other color would be better
Love the orange 🍊
Got a question for ya. My ski wouldn’t crank or nothing so I replaced the solenoid, cause when I opened the box it was all corroded and rusty but after I swapped the new one nothing changed, tried jumping the solenoid and it started to crank over, pulled my starter and tested it it works fine. Could it possible be my start stop switch, some of the connections in the box look corroded but I wouldn’t think there corroded enough to make it not start, also changed all my leads from the starter to box and the ground and positive to the battery.
Love the orange
Also orange is amazing. Clemson tigers orange!
Before watching, fuel lines
After watching, corroded cables
Watch out for gray fuel lines. They flake off and clog up the carbs. If found, I'd suggest replacing with transparent fuel line which won't flake off and also allows you to see fuel cloudiness (water in fuel)
Yes! Gray fuel lines are evil! Whoever decided to put ethanol in our gas should be obligated to come to my garage and replace them all. I run clear lines on motorcycles but I prefer to use marine-rated lines on the ski. It's probably not a big deal since they don't get much UV exposure but I'm conservative when it comes to anything related to fuel in the bilge.
Steve Vigus I also make my own battery cables, due to the issue you found. Hex crimp and adhesive 3:1 shrink wrap, no solder. I've seen not-so-cheap cables at a farm store that had exposed copper at the lug. Buy that and you are a guaranteed return customer.
Hey Steve, love your videos. I recently purchased a 1996 seadoo SPX and took it out and had a blast on it and then it died. Now when I push start I get a beep and the gauges light up. I push the start 5 times as some suggest and then put the key on and get a loud beep and gauges light up. I bought a new battery, checked for voltage it’s 12.8, checked fuses, they look fine, checked and cleaned everything and still a beep and no start. While we were out on the water it started drowning out and we noticed the drain plug was open and probably 3 inches of water got in the hull. I cleaned it all out and dried everything. Not sure if that has anything to do with it. Brand new to the jet ski world. Thanks!!
Donna Price, did you ever figure out what was wrong with your seadoo?
I’m having the same issue right now. What was the issue?
Great video. In the famous words of Bill Murray: "..you are a madman. I wanna party with you, cowboy."
"C'mon, it's Czechoslovakia. We zip in, we pick 'em up, we zip right out again. We're not going to Moscow. It's Czechoslovakia. It's like going into Wisconsin." Sounds like an idea for the next video. Thanks for watching!
Tell Mr. Buttkiss 3000 that orange looks awesome! (Snooty beer drinkers are so judgmental, we all tend to make room for them in our lives....) p.s. great fun in the realistic way that working on stuff tends to go LMFAO Good times!!!
Will do Brian. Every time somebody comments about the orange I give him grief. For the record, I am copying your comment exactly and texting it to him right now.
I liked the orange haha
Hey Steve, I have a 94 SPX, took the motor out to clean up motor and inside hull. Put motor back in, got it to fire up right away, dut let go of dead man switch and try to hit stop button and nothing, doesnt turn off unless you grab and disconnect at spark plug boots. All wires are hooked up correctly to matching colors inside wire box. Any ideas, thanks Mike. Awesome videos, and ski looks great. May have to have you make some vynils for mine.
Find a free PDF copy of the service manual online and check out the schematic diagram on page 07-01-3. You can see that the stop switch is normally closed and the dead man is normally open. A complete circuit is required for the ski to run and an open circuit kills it. Your situation is that the circuit is always complete which suggests that both switches are bad. I think that's highly unlikely. It could be that you have a bad control module but you should be able to isolate it to either the module or to the wiring/switch circuit outside of the box by disconnecting a bullet connector inside the box. It has black/yellow wire on one side and two wires (black/yellow and black/white) on the other side. With that bullet connecter disconnected the ski should not run. It should crank but not run. Try that and let's discuss. You can also email me if you like. My email is in my profile. Good luck!
Im kinda lost on the testing so im sorry.. Are you placing positive on the battery positive and the neg pin on the motor somewhere to check the volts?
Red lead goes on the battery, black lead goes on the engine (spark plug base works great, or you can put it where the ground wire attaches to the engine). Voltage should read the same as when you put the meter directly across the battery terminals. If it's lower reading from engine to battery, then there is extra resistance somewhere.
This happened to my mom and sister, they got carried in a current for a little bit, i swam over, and underestimated the power of the current, thank god i was able to maneuver the jetski towards some large sharp rocks, and i was able to grab on to it firmly and keep the jetski anchored with my hand, super scary though
These guys are awsome made me laugh
I love yoor videos it helps a lot i have a problem with my 97 seadoo i change the ignition coil because i dont have spark in the sparkplugs i put new batery new coil and now im in my last hopes if you have any ideas will help thank
Lots of ideas. Too many to include here - I need to make an ignition troubleshooting video. Start with a schematic and trace the signal from the magneto pickup all the way to the plugs is about the best way to summarize. Common problems are the wire from the magneto to the CDI box and bad ground at the CDI box (the wire that goes directly to the battery). Sorry I don't have an easy way to walk you through all the possiblities. You might try one of the SeaDoo or PWC forums.
love it !
Thanks Hilton!
I'm digging the orange
I knew it! Wait 'till I tell Ed that we found one subscriber who likes the orange! He thinks thinks that I have a fixation with that color because I used to be in the Coast Guard. OK, maybe a little...
The orange makes it, I do however have my concerns with your buddy even having a cucumber saison! "We'll follow it up with a little spritzer serge."
Omg guys u are the best
Hi sir can the throttle body carburetor sensors make the sea'doo from starting
Question for you sir I just purchased a 96 750 sts and in the process of doing new seals on the carbs and exhaust upper pipes when I look down the boot I can see gunky drown oil looking stuff is that normal?? New jet ski owner btw.
I’m not sure I understand where you are seeing the oil but I haven’t seen brown gunk buildup on any of mine. You might try checking a couple of forums that specialize in Kawasakis. Good luck!
Steve, do you program dess keys for these older seadoos?
Sorry I don't. Try the SeaDoo forums or ebay.
Wait
So what did you tighten when you tried starting it the first time and it made that sound? Mine is making it now
If its the sound you hear at 0:23 the answer is I replaced the ground wire from the battery to the engine block.
I have a 1996 seadoo xp starts runs put in the water slow works but as soon as increase throttle motor rev up and it goes no where I think it has a striped shaft what do you think
Could be but take a look at the impeller. You could have something wrapped up in in causing cavitation or impeller itself could be damaged. Check out my video on replacing a jet pump.
You seem to know a lot about these. Do you need to run them when you pull them out of the water every time? Somehow my 94 seadoo gtx crakcase got full of water and I have no idea how.
You should flush the system with fresh water at the end of every day. This is essential in salt water and good practice in fresh water. Some ommon ways to get water in the engine are (1) leaving the flush hose running after shutting off the engine and (2) towing the ski above 5mph without pinching off the correct cooling line. Were you able to get the water out and get it running again?
Hey I was wondering, I am trying to fix up a pair of old jet skis, what should I begin with/replace/check?
Check out the PWC or SeaDoo forums. Each has a section called "sticky" that contains FAQs and troubleshooting guides. Good luck!
Is that the ground cable coming from the battery you replaced? Sorry don't remember seeing you show which one And I may have same issue
Yes it’s the ground wire from the battery. Good luck!
@@StevenVigus I will post a comment after I swap it with the outcome/issue, thanks for the video
My brother has one similar, but his at first didnt get spark to the spark plug, did had spark from the strator, to the ecu, to the coil but from coil to the wires and spark plug it didnt had spark. He changed spark wires, coil, still nothing, even change ecu and nothing! Do you think is some bad connector or wires?
That's strange. Sounds like he tried pretty much everything. Sometimes that wire from the stator to the ecu will be corroded or the connector pins will be corroded. It looks like you are getting signal through but the crappy wires have such high resistance that current won't flow. On one of my skis that signal wire was black when I peeled back the insulation, just like the ground wire in the video. Good luck.
Steve Vigus so trying some oem wires? He said it had little bit of spark but not enough! Maybe wrong spark plugs??
If the spark is weak I would look at wires and the spark plug boots. Since he already changed them ask him if he made a fresh cut to the end of the plug wires before screwing in the boots. It might be worth checkin the resistance between the engine head and the battery ground. Shoul be zero. The signal wire from the magneto is usually either good or bad, not in-between since it simply fires the electronic ignition. I don't know if a corroded signal wire could cause a weak spark or not. Never had that problem. If you have any spark I would try a fresh plug and some starting fluid sprayed into the carbs. That will tell you if it's a fuel problem and will allow you to confirm that the spark and timing are good.
Steve Vigus he just put the spark plug wires in. No cut,
Hey Steve. I have a 1996 seado sp. Just got it and the guy said it starts but won't stay running. Put fuel where the spark plugs go and it starts but won't stay running. Any suggestions. I took apart the fuel lines and blew them out with air.
I would suspect the carb. Rebuild kits are cheap and and it’s a good idea to go through them every few years. That’s going to be a fast ride!
Do you know of a link to a 1996 seado sp fuel line diagram
Whatever you do do not jumpstart a Sea-Doo boat or WaveRunners you will fry the motherboard.
I learned the hard way. $1500. Repair bill
Hi I have an 1993 jet ski I bought, I noticed some smoke would come out, I took it to lake and it went fast, towards the end it died, when my friend got back we noticed it was filled with water, I couldn’t find the drain so the next day I drained the water like how they do with gas, I then saw a video howto remove the water by removing sparkplugs and gassing it, it turned on after that, I took it to the lake and no more water came in so I think it was because the would flip the jetski and water would go in, but now it started to throw a lot of smoke and it turned off, it would turn on but as soon as I would hit the gas it died, and still had tons of smoke, my friend said to let it cool and we did, after that it turned on again and ran normal but still had a lot of smoke.
Steve Vigus what was the plastic doing in the jet pump?
It's a wear ring that allows for a tight clearance between the outside edge of the impeller and the inside surface of the nozzle. This tight fit makes for maxium thrust. As sand and debris pass through the nozzle over time, the gap gets bigger and eventually you have to replace the wear ring to restore power to the jet. In this case, the plastic (delrin) ring was apparently damaged and it came apart in chunks when we started the engine.I guess it was physically touching the impeller. I picked up this ski super cheap because it wouldn't start. There's another video on my channel that shows what it took to fix the problem. In the end it worked out fine.
Hey man I have a 2014 GTI 130 and lately the dess key doesn't read. I have two keys and both do the same thing. Think it could be a bad ground? Or is it the post. It used to say reading key and would eventually register but last few weeks I can't even get it going
I’m not the expert but you can probably find one at seadooforum.com or pwctoday.com. The old timers there can tell you what the most common problems are and how to troubleshoot them.
How about if you get a B-1655 lock out code? And how do you clear the code?
How about if you get a B-1655 lock out code? And how do you clear the code? (2005 GTX)
Why don't I have cool neighbors like these guys?
Hey Steve I have a 2003 Kawasaki 1100 and it won’t start do you have any suggestions on how to fix it thank you
Touch question. I suggest that you find a support community like GreenHulk or PWCToday. The experts who hang out there have seen virtually any problem that you might encounter. If you do go this route, start out by reading the "stickies" which answer the most common questions, like "Why doesn't my jet ski start?"
Ok thanks
A 2012 Seadoo GTI 130 went to start it but only getting 1 beep. Not 2. Any idea what this could be??? Btw; brand new battery.
I have a starting issue on my 93 Seadoo XP Model 5852. It seems to be the crankshaft. Any videos you recommend?
Lance, Why do you think it's the crankshaft?
Steve Vigus I can't turn the crank all the way. It hangs up and is really tight.
+Lance Beauchamp that's going to be a fun one. I got lucky - my hang up was caused by the jet pump. Disconnected it and the motor turned over with plugs out and some oil in the cylinders. Sorry I can't recommend a video but let me know how it goes!
I'm thinking of selling it for parts with the trailer. I'm looking for getting another ski hopefully this weekend. It is about 2 hours away but the price is right and the pictures look good. I will keep you updated
Thanks for your help and can't wait to see the next video
hey Steve what will cause a jet ski to not accelerate on water but starts up on land and revs fine. pls help
I would look at the impeller for obstructions (sea grass, fishing line, etc.); check the condition of the impeller and the wear ring; if you have gray fuel lines, see if they are gummed up (I'll save you some time - they are gummed up); rebuild the carbs. Those are the most common culprits.
I have a Kawasaki tries to turn over but won't, ground gets a little warm would it be too many ohms in it?
Might have to open the bilge and let some ohms drain out. Seriously, I haven't put my hand on a bad ground while cranking. It would be worth the time to test the resistance if you have a mult-meter.
Like the pop of orange... ha ha
Great video!! Also I have a question I have a 650sx and it doesn't have even a click??? Have any idea?
Michael atc not much info to go on but I would check the battery, battery connections, ground cable, red cable, connectors/corrosion on both ends of each of those cables, and then move on to the solenoid, lanyard switch, and the cable itself. Assuming the battery is good, then there's a fair chance that something in the circuit is corroded. Do you ride in salt water?
Hey, any luck getting that ski running this weekend?
Your starter could be bad
Would you consider shooting video of the inside next time for those of us who are completely ignorant but willing to try anything? I don't know where that cable came from...
Sorry about that. The cable runs from the negative terminal on the batttery to a bolt on the motor. zit usually corrodes where it attaches to the motor but you can't see it because it's out of the way. Honestly, even if you could see it you probably wouldn't suspect that it's corroded. I go ahead and replace both the the red and the black cable whenever I get a new (20 year old) ski.
Thanks for your reply! Your videos are so helpful and entertaining!! You have an exceptional tv voice and personality. I enjoyed your buddy in the video too. We are buying new skis because we had so many problems last year. But, we also didn't take care of them - never lifted out of lake, never covered, there was always water in the hull. They always took about 5 minutes to start - never figured that out and we had 2 mechanics look at them. Just had to turn it over every 20-30 seconds for about 5 minutes and they would finally start. They always restarted right away after they warmed up, it was just that initial start... I'm going to work on the old ones, if I can get them running I'm going to try your detailing - makeover technique.
Good luck with the new skis. I'm thinking seriously about trying a modern, closed-loop cooled machine one of these days. Problem is, I probably enjoy tinkering with machines as much as I enjoy riding them. No so with my son - he's a speed demon. There are plenty of troubleshooting resources out there but if you get stuck feel free to drop me a note in the comments or via email and I'll see what I can do to help out. Thanks for watching!
I have a question. I have (2) 2012 Seadoo GTI 130’s. After riding a while on the ski we will kill the engine for a bit. When we go back to start it up. Nothing comes on. No computer no start. I will wiggle the fuse box wires and other wires a bit and Bam it’s starts! What is it??? Btw. Batteries are 3 years old.
Wish I could tell you for sure. I recommend that you join an online forum and read the posts from other people with your exact seadoo model and problem. Somebody will have a troubleshooting flow chart that’s better than the one in the service manual.
Hey, the orange is cheaper than spending $200 on a wrap job 🤷🏽♂️
What was the plastic that came flying out the back ?? I just got a co started and did the same thing can you help me
Ouch. That was the Delrin wear ring. It was crunchy and chunky and it failed as soon as the impeller started turning. There's another video on my channel that shows how to replace the wear ring. No big deal. The part is around $30.
Steve Vigus thanks for the answer and yes I ran into the video very much appreciated !!
Is that the ground from the starter mount bolt to the battery??
Yes, sorry if that wasn't clear. I found this same problem on two skis.
I’m having a similar problem on a 1998 gtx limited I just got, motor turns, when I jump it, also says 12v low, even the battery has 13v, and if I hit the start bottom it doesn’t do anything
Could be the same problem. What did you find out?
Looking for help I have 1996 Sea-Doo speedster engine won't start in water. Take it on trailer engine 2 will start right up engine 1 will crank but no start.
Idle is probably too low on engine 2, it should be at 2500 out of the water with the hose attached. Does engine 1 have spark?
@@ifixthings86 well got the issue fixed rebuilt carbs new cables took it on water drive for 3 hours boat started acting wierd kinda like choking up at full throttle now have to have new stator which is all the way on the bottom of engine bout done with this thing lol
Lol, yea sometimes boat life can be a pain, stick with it, this boat is a blast! I have a few issues with mine as well. I need to replace a starter this winter, rebuild carbs, and replace at least one wear ring. Hope you get it sorted out!
Thanks for the laughs guys!
I have a 97 gtx with same issue, I've checked everything but that ground wire and don't ask me why, but next minute I got, im swapping it out
Ohm that baby out before you give up on it. Corrosion gets into lots of wires on these old skis, not just the ground. Put one lead from your meter on the negative battery terminal and the other on the exposed metal part of the spark plug. It should read less than a few ohms. If it's a big number then you know what the problem is. Good luck!
I was riding my 2004 seadoo 3d in full power minutes later slow down and won’t start again. My battery is 9/22 just bought it 7 days ago. Idk what to do
I dig the orange
Thanks!!
Not sure where "the cable is coming from or going to "