Great video and useful information! Thx a lot! I actually think about getting the AC200MAX... Do you know of increased malfunctions of the Bluettis' touch screens?
@@blackbalerion I haven't seen any issues with my screens at all. I also don't have viewer telling me of their issues with the displays. I think they are fairly dependable.
Jason, Bluetti or EcoFlow should offer you a salaried position in their company. You have proven you know the customers wants and you can present the product. You also understand the technology and can interface with design engineers in the development of product. This presentation of these three Bluetti products proves your abilities. Thank you.
Thanks Dan! I have had 4 or 5 companies reach out and ask about my feedback about their new products they are developing. I'll see if my feedback helps them create the ULTIMATE power station! Also, EcoFlow offered to fly me out to their CES 2023 presentation in January next year. While there I'd be able to visit the booths of many of these companies to see whats new!
Jason, Very good and thorough reviews. I have been trying to reach Bluetti customer service for their recommendations on several occasions with no answer. They asked me to leave a voicemail and would return my call. That was 2 weeks ago and have never received a call back! That concerns me for spending this type of money on a highly technical product purchased to use in an possible emergency situation. Thank you for the great comparison head to head!
These are great units. Thank you for your review. Comparison reviews are the best because people often do tests different, but when you do them at the same time, it really gives some great information. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into these.
Great review dude! You have the best comparison videos for the Bluetti power stations. I ended up going with the AC200MAX. The extra features on that unit is totally worth it.
This is the best Bluetti large unit comparison and now I know which unit I’m going to buy with my hard earn money. I love your review videos; keep up the awesome review that you do Jason.
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Jason, thank you for your honesty on the support issues! That is not to say that Bluetti need to say bad about it, instead they should say "thank you" and take action and fix it so that everyone is happy! In my case I am heading in the direction of turning our home off grid and you need to be able to get a hold of support and get the unit fixed swiftly as a family is depending on it.. Perhaps I will need to divide up my system between multiple units only for that above reason and have a bit more piece of mind.. Thanks again! Adrian
Thank you, excellent review as usual. I sent an email to Bluetti about the AC200 Max to to confirm if it performs pass thru charging or if it has UPS functionality, they did not respond…however, you answered my question. Thank you
That was brilliant. I have covid and have been stuck in bed studying these solar generators over the last few days. I began knowing nothing. I became very confused. Until I watched your presentation. Now I will order the Bluetti ac200max. I require one for my small motorhome. But I do not use it often however still require off grid camping. So I will also use the Bluetti to power my pool pump at home...just to begin with. We pay around 30 to 38 cents a kilowatt here in Sydney Australia. So this will start to pay for itself. My electric bill is around $700 per quarter. I may keep building on the Bluetti with extra batteries and bring my electric bill down to $150 to $200 per quarter. Perhaps even go off grid one day. The beauty of these things is I can take it with me if I move house or rent my house out or sell it. Try doing that with those permanent solar panels you sign up to for 7 years. And by then there ready to be junked if they don't blow off your roof or catch fire like many have done over here. Then they are supposed to be checked and serviced by a highfalutin specialist that rolls up in a Ferrari. The other thing is my electric bill will be $800 per quarter next year. Anyway thanks again for a brilliant presentation. Cheers.
Just got the AC200MAX open box for $850 from Blueetti. This thing is a beast and the APP is pretty awesome. Use it for my RV at parks where with generator curfew times.
In May 2022 I bought the AC300 and B300 and their email response was within 48 hours for my 4 emails I sent them. But a month ago the AC300 shorted out inside. Sent an email on a Monday no response, phone just rings. But they do weekly live sales on Facebook and TH-cam. So I did a live comment during broadcast and their customer support directed me to message them in Facebook, I gave them the order number and what happened and they would get back to me. A few days later on their next live sale I messaged them on Facebook asking what the status was. They apologized and said hold on. Then I got an email response to my original email. From that point on it went as expected, she sent an RGA, I returned it to NV. Then they sent me a new unit. The process took a couple weeks and I had to be a squeaky wheel but all in all I am satisfied with the result. You spend thousands or ten thousand $ with them their customer support could use improvement. It is a fantastic product I just hope they don't lose their edge with less then great customer support.
Weird. I’ve found their customer service to be excellent, especially if you just call them. Certainly better than EcoFlow. I’d be willing to bet that the B300 caused the short in your AC300 as it shorted out my AC200 then later died. I’ve traded it in and am sitting with a credit
Fantastic review of all Bluetti big boys. I had no idea that none of them offer UPS, which for me has always been a deal breaker . As always you rock and are very succinct and to the point. I love your reviews, thank you for your hard work.
Have been 'working' my original AC200P for 2 full years ! It is the main (stationary) power station & handles refrigerator, induction cook-top, microwave duties with additional extras of 8k room air-conditioner and charging a Nissan Leaf EV in short sessions. Charged by 3 x 180 watt panels in series w/50' 10awg connection gives up to 420 watts in full sun. Enough power for a retired senior with no extra baggage. How-Ever: have several smaller power stations for auxiliary support applications such as powering weed-wacker, soldering iron, computer video & sound, VHS with analog TV entertainment system, electric scooter charging, . . . . . . . and . . . ( of course ) my light-speed accelerator experimentation for interstellar transport applications . . . . . . . . . . . Love the power stations and PV panels ! ! ! take care, RH
wow!!!! this is a great presentation. So much information and work was put into it. Cant wait to see the comparison with other stations. Love this channel ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
Great review Jason! I have the 200 max with the 2 b230 batteries and am 100% satisfied. The EB200P seems to be an enigma as to why it exists, especially with the rather high MSRP of$1999. I got my 200 max at $1499, but i have not seen that price repeated again. The bluetooth app and being able to update the firmware are really huge bonuses compared to the other 2. As i think that Tripp-Lite and APC make better high end USP systems (once you drop the SLA and replace with drop in LFP) than any of the current group of solar generator companies, i leave UPS to the professionals and let the 200 max power everything else when the grid drops and let my lone PV350 charge everything back up between the blackouts. My external power brick is appropriately being used, as a brick😃 Next up for me is one of the Power Queen 4.6KW server rack batteries at 26 cents per watt!
@@zfontain1975 Even when the refrigerator is defrosting, i have never heard the fans kick on and i charge at a pretty slow rate on solar and i haven't heard the fans on charging either. I think the charger for my EB70 is louder and it is really annoying.
@@johntate5284 your fans never kick on when running your 200max? I run mine 24/7 so the fans kick on and off unless I'm using under 150 watts then they stay off. I have 1000 watts of panels charging it daily.
Awesome video. I saw a reference to the eb200p somewhere and was wondering how it compared to the other 2 so this video was perfect. The AC200Max is almost perfect. Two things would make it perfect (I’ll add a third though 😊) 1. UPS functionality so I could get some use out of it even when I’m not traveling and 2. If it supported the new B300s batteries (even if through an adapter cable. Then 3. I would actually love a 1000wh version at reduced cost but same 2200w inverter, ports and features, just lower cost, and still expandable.
Hi, I have the UK version of the AC200P. The screen automatically turns off after one minute. Up to two B230 expansion batteries can be used with the AC200P through the DC inputs, although this reduces the configuration options and is not as flexible as the AC200MAX.
I was looking hard at the AC200P, but seeing the head to head I am looking again at the AC200 Max,the side by side comparison shows all three in a good light, but the max looks to have the edge. 👍🐝😊
For a more accurate test for the idle power consumption especially for the AC200MAX you should discharge it to zero after the 10 hour idle test to see how much actual energy is left and subtract that from the actual capacity test. The EcoFlow Delta for example draws 3 watts when idle with the DC output on even though the SoC meter indicates 100% even after 24 hours.
Thanks for the review. I was an early adopter for the AC200P. This is a very good unit and the only negative I have is that the display cannot be seen in medium to bright conditions. In fact I have to use my cellphone camera to see the display often. The later units with bluetooth help with this but Bluetti needs to install brighter displays. My next purchase will be Bluetti and at a discount.
Great video! Perfect to try to get my parents to look into stuff like this. However Bluetti has a major fail with their CS issues and I know for a fact my parents would never buy a product with lacking CS and betting that goes for many newbies entering the backup battery arena. Like you said, people spend a lot of money and expect / deserve good CS to stand behind products.
I have several Bluetti products. Had a charger problem with the EB70. Phone service nonexistent and email response was slow and cumbersome. Months later no resolution. I have one EcoFlow powerstation and had a question about interference. They were very responsive, followed up and worked through solutions. Great service. Sadly EcoFlow has too much interference for my use but great for lights and frig. I am getting another large station and because of bad service it will not be Bluetti.
My power stations and big LiFeP04 battery came in handy again after the recent storm and power outage here. I was able to use my microwave and keep my fridge and freezer going and use WIFI. I run my lights from them so if the power goes out I don`t notice right away but don`t have to look for a flashlight.
Thanks Jason...great video...again. Heard same about their customer service. Just received my Pecron E2000 lfp. All kinds of issues with it out of the box. Not sure if it got abused, dropped during shipping or what happened. Reached out and within couple hrs issue resolved for return and replacement. Was considering Bluetti during my research and avoided because of many customer issues....second guessing myself but after hearing your ongoing experience with them think I'll stay away. Shame really like that AC200 Max. As far as the Pecron goes all the videos watched you guys talked it up quite a bit, hoping that the issues with this one is shipping related. 10 to 15 year Lithium Phosphate doesn't do much good if the unit continues to crap out after 6 months. Thanks for all your sharing.
Recently purchased an EB3A, had a question for tech support. Their phone number did change which was noted on the automated answering system. Called the next day and a customer service person answered fairly quickly and took care of the issue.
I liked your presentation. I have the AC200P and has been connected to my kitchen appliances, not the microwave and the propane stove. Pleased with the performance of the AC200P. The only issue is that I would like to expand AC200P to 3kb or 4kb.
Thanks Steve, there a couple different ways to expand your AC200p manually. I made a video on the topic HERE: th-cam.com/video/dTTneUtz4Jk/w-d-xo.html The easiest way to do it is by connecting an extra 24v battery or 48 volt battery to the charging input.
I bought the AC200P and so far, I have been happy with it and because I wanted to expand the power, I bought the EB300 3072Wh and did not know it came with a giant cable which does not work with the 2000W system, so I had to purchase the adapter. I reached out to cust svc via chat and email and they responded pretty fast
Jason, sorry that I missed your LIVE! Excellent review between the three ... however, I just want to point out that the AC200P's capacity, as well as the solar, can be expanded by/with the B230, also, using the battery expansion cables ... (P090D-XT90, XT90-Aviation Plug). IDN if it will work with the EB200; although, I don't see why not, since they are so similarly built. #justsaying
The AC200p and EB200p are kinda "expandable", but if you connect an external battery does not charge back up with the power station itself. You have to charge it on your own with a separate charger. That's why the AC200max is much easier to use. The discharging and charging of the whole system happens automatically.
@@Jasonoid I usually wait until my AC200P is at 100% then charge the B230 from the AC200P using the AC power brick. I live in Golden Valley, AZ where I get 292 solar days.
@@Jasonoid No, I charge mine by having the special cable hooked up/connected to a/my B230, which is connected to a D050S, which is, in following, connected to my AC200/200P. The AC200/200P is charged up first, and, then, the B230 (is charged). You charge the B230 (via AC/solar with a D050S connected), which is connected to the AC200/200P ... where, then, the AC200/200P gets charged by the B230 first, followed by charging the B230. No separate/extra charger used/needed. How it works, and has been working, for me.
@@Jasonoid Yep, it was on the maxoak site. I was just trying a bunch of codes and bam 599. I couldn't checkout fast enough. I tried it right after to test and it still worked but after a couple days no dice... Should be here Monday along with a refurbed pv350 @ $489! Hopefully these hold up..
I’ve had my ac500 + 2 b300s sense the first week of December. The delivery was much faster than I expected as it only took two weeks to deliver. So, good in them for that. I mistakenly attempt to connect the unit to my 5Gh WiFi router. My bad. The unit continued to attempt to connect to the 5Gh and would not acknowledge the 2.4Gh even after a new downloading of the app and a factory reset of the unit. The responses to my requests for service were slow (at or over a week each time) and I never received a satisfactory fix for my issue. The issue eventually resolved itself and I was able to get the unit to acknowledge the 2.4Gh router. (I just kept mashing buttons until it fixed itself) However, the unit would not connect to the router with the status reading--Network Status: connecting Server Status: not connected. Same as before with the 5Gh router. More than a week after my request I received an email. The email requested me to do all of the things I had already told them I had done or I had told them that were not available to me. When I checked the unit again via Bluetooth it was connected to the proper router. Yeah! I now had WiFi and full internet connection to my ac500. But wait. One of the things they asked me to do was to update the app. I found no option to do this and the App Store showed my current update as the one that would be uploaded with the app. I did update the DSP and now the unit acknowledges the router but will not connect to the WiFi router. (Same status as above) It has been two days sense I emailed Bluetti and still no response. Though out this process I have used FB messenger, email and app requests complete with multiple screen shots showing my processes and current statuses. None seem to illicit a faster response than the others. There seems to be some form of language or communication issue here. Their only responses have come for the sales department, not the tech department. The sales department does not seem to understand the situation nor do they seem to be able to communicate the issues effectively to the tech department, as the responses are simply telling me to do things I’ve already told them I’ve done or to do things I’ve told them were not available to me at the time. Bluetti. Seriously, stop producing new products and fix your customer service. If anyone reads this far and wants an update, tag me.
@@Jasonoid I would appreciate anything you could do to help get ahead of this issue. As my ac500 came out of the Indiegogo fund raiser, I can’t be the only one who has or will experience these issues. I really feel like I’m just not being understood. They are listening, they just don’t seem to understand.
Update: 2300 hrs US central time zone. 5 Jan 23: Current status obtained through Bluetooth. Network Status: Connecting Server Status: Not connected. Proper WiFi name is listed. After manually entering the WiFi information I received the green notification: WiFi saved. You’re now able to remote control Bluetti device. -- spoiler alert. I cannot. App will not acknowledge the ac500 if my phone is connected to my WiFi (5Gh or 2.4Gh). App connection to the ac500 times out. I must turn off my phones WiFi and set my phone on cellular network or no internet access to access the ac500 via Bluetooth. --this is unchanged sense to received the ac500. My case has been forwarded by Bluetti sales to someone with a poweroak email address. I was advised by the Bluetti sales rep to see that persons email reply for more information and to discuss the issue with them. I’ve received no email from the poweroak rep. I’ll post more updates as they come.
I have reached out to bluetti several times & in every way & their customer service is the worst! I own 2- AC200P's & I have gone to their website to register both for the extended warranty & after you type in your info it comes back & says they will let you know if it excepted your info. Well after submitting both several times I still have not heard anything back & it's been over 4-weeks. So sad to say their warranty & customer service SUCK's! Jason, great video. You really need to do a comparison head-to-head with the bluetti ac200p & the OUKITEL P2001. that would be a good match up!!
Thanks Phil, I think their customer support could improve as well. I think I'll do a "2000wh LFP" comparison video once Ecoflow launches the larger Delta Max LFP model. Not sure when that will be though... Then I'll do a comparison from 5 or 6 2000wh models to see which one is the best!
This review is if not a home run at least a triple, (pun intended) From a truck camper perspective, I see a lot builds that rely on a Jackery or Goal Zero to make the leap into storing solar panel. I looked into it last year when do my own D.I.Y install and thought the Bluetti AC200P would be perfect. Here we are a year later and instead of my D.I.Y install, with the experience of replicating a solar power pack with separate components, I would call the EB200P a good enough alternative. Granted my D.I.Y. build has couple of performance advantages over an all-in-on solar power pack - but it was way over budget and not easily removable should I have to sell the truck camper at low price.
I think DIY is a great way to go, especially if you mostly use DC power. It's all around more efficient and simple. If you really need AC power while out and about, a power station is a great simple solution! They both have their advantages and I use both throughout my camping trips :)
Jason I reported an issue with my eb3a unexpectedly shutting down indicating overload with only a 15W (modem) load connected. Reported the issue through the app on Nov 1, but except the confirmation email I haven’t received no other response from them. It seems they keep lacking an efficient customer support. 😬
Well you can "expand it", but not in the official way the AC200MAX is expandable. You'd just plug a battery into the charging port to transfer power and the expansion battery doesn't charge up like and official one would...
I bought an ac200p 3 days ago and I realized it has an issue on my shipping address so I try and try several times to reach Bluetti to without any success. Because of that misfortune I give them only one fade star for their crapy service after sale. I will think twice next time before buying from them😢.
Thanks for the test. I could do with the EB in my Van Build. It's not easily available in EU. And pricing is not much lower than AC200max. So I think I still need to go for the max. It's €1849,00 in Germany. Free shipping into NL.
The AC200Max is probably worth buying if it just costs a little more in your area. You get quite a bit more efficiency and features on that model vs the EB200p and the AC200p. True expandability is also a plus.
I have the AC200P and I am extremely satisfied except that it doesn't work when temparature is below 0° Celcius. I think it's the case for all 3. The "annoyance" of the AC200P is the power consumption when idle. My advice : buy the AC200Max
Multiple articles and videos say the AC200P is expandable with bluetti expansion batteries but they can't be directly charged through the AC200P and must be charged separetely with a T500 adapter?
@@curmudgeon_OG yeah, their definition of "expandable" is by using a special charging adapter that costs $95. It is NOT a true expansion setup like the AC200max would be. The AC200P does not charge the battery back up like a true expansion setup. It's kinda a "gimmick" feature they claim...
You could do something like this: th-cam.com/video/dTTneUtz4Jk/w-d-xo.html There are MANY ways to create an expansion DIY battery. Buying a couple 100ah LFP batteries and putting them in series for a 24v battery would be much more affordable for 2500wh of capacity than buying Bluettis batteries. .
I loved the idea of Bluetti product based on specs, build and price. Unfortunatly if you have any issues and need to contact customer support you are up a proverbial raging river without a paddle. To say this company has customer support is a misnomer. They have a phone # that nobody answers and does not accept VM's. They have various email addresses that nobody responds to and when they do it is a differant person each time, some that have emails of outside organizations. Buyer beware you better hope your product works because if it does not it is a nightmare to get support or to return the unit.
Excellent review Jason! Well thought and technical as always! Next item you should compare is zendures superbase v vs ecoflows Delta pro and bluetti ac500 .They seem to be the top dogs of the market. Which one is the best?
Hi Jason..my name is Sharon. Brought the ac200max Dec 25, 2022. Was promised a free 30ft. Extension cable if I got the three solar panels. After calling about it I never got a response.
Can a Bluetti add 5 miles of charging to a Tesla in one hour? This could be a big help if you come up short by 3 or 4 miles to make it to a supercharger. 110 volt charging in a garage adds about 5 miles in an hour. I have never needed this but if you are depending on a Bluetti for a camping trip and you come up short by a little to get you that little extra to a charger.
I contacted Bluetti through their email support about a DC charge enhancer which had stopped working. They usually responded to each contact after a few days. After a week or so they sent a replacement unit. More recently I emailed them regarding my EB55 and the responses were a little more spread out. It’s not ideal but they do back the products. I just wonder what will happen if the touch screen on my AC200P fails out of warranty since it doesn’t have app capability. It works great now but it does make me a little nervous. 🤞🏻
Rich Eastmain - I did not want to 'smudge' my AC200P touch screen with Pizza grease fouled fingers . . . . so experimented to see how sensitive it was & found right away that the soft rubber pencil eraser (on a pencil) works well with virtually no pressure required. The pencil is not sharpened & occasionally I goof & touch the screen with the wood end which works easily as well. 2 years in using it daily as my main supply for kitchen appliances & no issues.
Now that's a good review. Not just unboxing like most reviews are 😂. 200max is my first bluetti so i can't say anything about customer support but EcoFlow has great support. The worse company for any refunds or replacements is hand down dyson. Will never buy another product from them
For the ACMax...if one drains the unit itself of power and then connects a fully charged battery like the B230 or B300, will the unit operate to its full extent on the connected battery that is charged until that battery is then depleted?
When you connect up a battery to the AC200max it will "average" out the power from two batteries so I'm guessing it would show 50% capacity on the screen with the main battery at 0% and one expansion battery at 100%
Jason would likee your thoughts on the ac200 max and the ac300 would like to use one of these for my wood shop and the biggest power usage is my wood lathe which is 13.5 amps or 1620 w.
Question, if you plug only into the expansion b300 battery and don’t have any input source to the ac200max, will it charge the entire system (ac200max + b300, connected together) ? The reason I ask is because I see many saying that when they charge primarily through the ac200max only, the b300 doesn’t reach 100% charge because the ac200max reached full charge first and stops all charges v input for safety, and so the b300 gets left behind. So I figured, what if you charge primarily from the expansion battery to overcome that problem. Appreciate any thoughts you have.
You can charge the B300 completely separate from the AC200max to get it full. It has its own built in solar charge controller. I haven't messed with that setup too much, but when I did, I never saw any weird things. Sorry I can't be of more help.
Actually it doesnt, at least on the AC200Max. I demonstrated that in the video under the AC testing results. The AC200p and EB200p were more usage, pretty impressed how improved the AC200Max was! .
I think that silent power supply on the AC200Max was because they couldn't get partsduring the pandemic, there was an apology note with my one (also notice the brick isn't branded Bluetti). It was normally supposed to come with the faster (and louder!) charger. I prefer the silence
Like you I couldn't get in touch physically with support I had ordered a 2nd 120 solar panel hadn't heard a word about it being shipped after about 3 weeks so I sent them a email wondering how long g til it shipped,3 days later I received it by FedEx was shipped in a Amazon box so I'm guessing they where out but sent me one either from Amazon or one intended for Amazon,so I'm guessing they are listening.
EcoFlow River 2 Max with a free 110w solar panel: amzn.to/3Ast3nZ Right now that's not the active deal but keep an eye out. Theres currently a $180 coupon on the Max.
Hmm I have the Millertech EB200 and I drew it down and was getting 1,720 to 1,740wh. But mine was drawn down from the 12v plug. 🤷♂️ If I was buying again I'd go for the MAX.
All good fun watching all these tech reviews but some of you guys should review customer service and repair. I spent over a month trying to figure out how get my Bluetti repaired which had just gone out of warranty. After dozens of emails to Bluetti and MaxOak they offered absolutely NO options to repair my unit. Who on earth would buy something costing thousands of dollars when you can’t get the damn thing repaired in a couple of years.
It will "expand" by plugging a battery into the charging port, but it won't sync up with the power station and the external battery won't charge up with the power station like a power station with a true expansion port.
Can you speak about extension cords I have noticed lately that they all come in different colors but I'm not understanding the color code as far as how much wattage that each carries when I'm using a portable power station any insight on the right cord for a particular power station 300/600/700/800/1000/ 2,000
It's always best to go with the larger gauge extension cords for safety. Using undersized cables mixed with high wattage will cause a fire. In my opinion, there's no reason to use a smaller sized cable (14awg, 16awg, 18awg). For best safety you should use 12awg extension cables and try to keep them under 50 feet long for heavy loads continous loads. Its expensive but safety is key.
Question? Dose the fan run with AC or DC enabled only (NO LOAD)? While using AC the fan on most units runs for cooling, dose this unit (AC200MAX) have a thermostat for fan use? Thanks
It only runs as needed and has a sensor to tell the fan when to turn back on. The larger the load and the warmer it is outside, the more and fan will run. It hardly ever runs with no load on the power station.
@@Jasonoid Thanks for the reply! I have an OLD Kodiac unit and the fan powers on as soon as you turn AC on!! Glad this has a thermostat. Need a more powerful 120v wattage unit. Again Thanks
Thank you for this review!! Really helped me. Question... DC output from the 5521 barrel ports. There are two ports... is it possible to pull 10a from a single port or just 5 amps. 10amp being the total output of the two ports. thank you
Hi Jason. Do you have a recommendation for a power station besides bluetti that has 30a dc out? Was looking at growatt 2200 but saw another video that pointed out some real problems with the unit. Thanx
The Pecron E1500LFP has a 30 amp DC out. The Oupes Mega 2 does as well. Same with the Ugreen 2200. Not a ton of options but there are a few. You could also use the Bluetti D40 with the AC200L.
Bluetti has their Black Friday sale coming up, keep an eye out for the best prices of the year!
Thank you I will, although the big deals don’t always get to the UK.🐝🙃
Great video and useful information! Thx a lot! I actually think about getting the AC200MAX... Do you know of increased malfunctions of the Bluettis' touch screens?
@@blackbalerion I haven't seen any issues with my screens at all. I also don't have viewer telling me of their issues with the displays. I think they are fairly dependable.
I have the AC200Maxx and 2 B300's ;) They got enough of my money this year 🙃
@yeshuas child2022 thx for your feedback - I chose EF Delta 2 because of the screen issues... seems I did the right thing...
Jason, Bluetti or EcoFlow should offer you a salaried position in their company. You have proven you know the customers wants and you can present the product. You also understand the technology and can interface with design engineers in the development of product. This presentation of these three Bluetti products proves your abilities. Thank you.
Thanks Dan! I have had 4 or 5 companies reach out and ask about my feedback about their new products they are developing. I'll see if my feedback helps them create the ULTIMATE power station! Also, EcoFlow offered to fly me out to their CES 2023 presentation in January next year. While there I'd be able to visit the booths of many of these companies to see whats new!
Jason,
Very good and thorough reviews. I have been trying to reach Bluetti customer service for their recommendations on several occasions with no answer. They asked me to leave a voicemail and would return my call. That was 2 weeks ago and have never received a call back! That concerns me for spending this type of money on a highly technical product purchased to use in an possible emergency situation. Thank you for the great comparison head to head!
Check out the Anker 767 or the Ecoflow Delta 2 Max instead. I have videos on both of those options and their support is much better.
These are great units. Thank you for your review. Comparison reviews are the best because people often do tests different, but when you do them at the same time, it really gives some great information. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into these.
I'm trying to stick to a testing standard so each power station I test has an equal playing field. Thanks for commenting!
Fantastic video! I was able to get my AC200MAX for $1499. with Bluetti's Black Friday sale.😁 So glad I did!👍
Great review dude! You have the best comparison videos for the Bluetti power stations. I ended up going with the AC200MAX. The extra features on that unit is totally worth it.
Thanks Speeeeed! You made a great choice!
Were you able to get it set up?
This is the best Bluetti large unit comparison and now I know which unit I’m going to buy with my hard earn money. I love your review videos; keep up the awesome review that you do Jason.
Jason, thank you for your honesty on the support issues! That is not to say that Bluetti need to say bad about it, instead they should say "thank you" and take action and fix it so that everyone is happy! In my case I am heading in the direction of turning our home off grid and you need to be able to get a hold of support and get the unit fixed swiftly as a family is depending on it.. Perhaps I will need to divide up my system between multiple units only for that above reason and have a bit more piece of mind.. Thanks again! Adrian
Thank you for doing this. I bought an AC200P a couple of years ago. Glad it's not all bad.
I have an AC200P and an EB3A with PV200 and SP120 panels. No issues at all. Thanks for the excellent video.
You did a fantastic job on demonstrating the difference in the unit's.
Outstanding best review now i know what to get for my cabin
Thank you, excellent review as usual. I sent an email to Bluetti about the AC200 Max to to confirm if it performs pass thru charging or if it has UPS functionality, they did not respond…however, you answered my question.
Thank you
Hey Chris, these all support pass through charging but not UPS functionality. Glad you found the video to be helpful!
I HAVE AN AC200P & AC200MAX. GREAT PRESENTATION.
TX & GOD BLESS
The best I've seen and real questions about one's home answered. Thank you!
Merry Christmas, and a happy new year my friend
Very well presented and reinforces my decision today to order the ac200max! Thx for sharing.
AWSOME head-to-head review. Hit all the points I needed to know. Only wish I'd watched it before purchasing the AC200P.
That was brilliant. I have covid and have been stuck in bed studying these solar generators over the last few days. I began knowing nothing. I became very confused. Until I watched your presentation. Now I will order the Bluetti ac200max. I require one for my small motorhome. But I do not use it often however still require off grid camping. So I will also use the Bluetti to power my pool pump at home...just to begin with. We pay around 30 to 38 cents a kilowatt here in Sydney Australia. So this will start to pay for itself. My electric bill is around $700 per quarter. I may keep building on the Bluetti with extra batteries and bring my electric bill down to $150 to $200 per quarter. Perhaps even go off grid one day. The beauty of these things is I can take it with me if I move house or rent my house out or sell it. Try doing that with those permanent solar panels you sign up to for 7 years. And by then there ready to be junked if they don't blow off your roof or catch fire like many have done over here. Then they are supposed to be checked and serviced by a highfalutin specialist that rolls up in a Ferrari. The other thing is my electric bill will be $800 per quarter next year. Anyway thanks again for a brilliant presentation. Cheers.
Hope you’ve beat the covid blues buddy, how are you liking the ac 200 max? I’m thinking of getting the same unit for my van and to power some tools
the max although a bit more expensive looks to be the best out of the bunch.
btw i got my notification today!
thanks again for the review video!
I triple checked that setting on this video haha. Had to make sure people were going to be notified!
Just ordered the max based on your review, thanks
You'll enjoy the Max, definitely some great upgrades over the other two options.
@@Jasonoid prices have dropped too.
Just got the AC200MAX open box for $850 from Blueetti. This thing is a beast and the APP is pretty awesome. Use it for my RV at parks where with generator curfew times.
In May 2022 I bought the AC300 and B300 and their email response was within 48 hours for my 4 emails I sent them. But a month ago the AC300 shorted out inside. Sent an email on a Monday no response, phone just rings. But they do weekly live sales on Facebook and TH-cam. So I did a live comment during broadcast and their customer support directed me to message them in Facebook, I gave them the order number and what happened and they would get back to me. A few days later on their next live sale I messaged them on Facebook asking what the status was. They apologized and said hold on. Then I got an email response to my original email. From that point on it went as expected, she sent an RGA, I returned it to NV. Then they sent me a new unit.
The process took a couple weeks and I had to be a squeaky wheel but all in all I am satisfied with the result. You spend thousands or ten thousand $ with them their customer support could use improvement. It is a fantastic product I just hope they don't lose their edge with less then great customer support.
Weird. I’ve found their customer service to be excellent, especially if you just call them. Certainly better than EcoFlow. I’d be willing to bet that the B300 caused the short in your AC300 as it shorted out my AC200 then later died. I’ve traded it in and am sitting with a credit
A lot of work. Great job Jasonoid.
Fantastic review of all Bluetti big boys. I had no idea that none of them offer UPS, which for me has always been a deal breaker . As always you rock and are very succinct and to the point. I love your reviews, thank you for your hard work.
Happy Holidays Dr.J'
Thanks for this video, I was just looking for a power station to buy for Cyber Monday and wanted to compare these. 👍🏾
The AC200MAX and AC200P are both on sale right now, some of the best pricing I have seen!
@@Jasonoid Thanks Dr.J for the heads up, the prices were very very nice 👍🏾
Excellent review, very thorough! Most definitely a pleasure on your grading scale
great review I have a RV in Oz so the 200 max sounds the one for me having the 15 amp socket
Great to see the 3 big ones near each other. Thanks,
It was a fun video to do!
Great video. I have a 200P, and have been tempted to spring for the Max one day.
It's got some good performance increases!
Have been 'working' my original AC200P for 2 full years ! It is the main (stationary) power station & handles refrigerator, induction cook-top, microwave duties with additional extras of 8k room air-conditioner and charging a Nissan Leaf EV in short sessions. Charged by 3 x 180 watt panels in series w/50' 10awg connection gives up to 420 watts in full sun. Enough power for a retired senior with no extra baggage.
How-Ever: have several smaller power stations for auxiliary support applications such as powering weed-wacker, soldering iron, computer video & sound, VHS with analog TV entertainment system, electric scooter charging, . . . . . . . and . . . ( of course ) my light-speed accelerator experimentation for interstellar transport applications . . . . . . . . . . .
Love the power stations and PV panels ! ! ! take care, RH
Sounds like it's been a champ for you so far! Excellent description of how you use your portable power!
@@Jasonoid - Thank You for excellent reviews ! !
wow!!!! this is a great presentation. So much information and work was put into it. Cant wait to see the comparison with other stations. Love this channel ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
Thanks so much!
Great review Jason! I have the 200 max with the 2 b230 batteries and am 100% satisfied. The EB200P seems to be an enigma as to why it exists, especially with the rather high MSRP of$1999. I got my 200 max at $1499, but i have not seen that price repeated again. The bluetooth app and being able to update the firmware are really huge bonuses compared to the other 2. As i think that Tripp-Lite and APC make better high end USP systems (once you drop the SLA and replace with drop in LFP) than any of the current group of solar generator companies, i leave UPS to the professionals and let the 200 max power everything else when the grid drops and let my lone PV350 charge everything back up between the blackouts. My external power brick is appropriately being used, as a brick😃 Next up for me is one of the Power Queen 4.6KW server rack batteries at 26 cents per watt!
Great setup! You'll have to let me know how that server rack battery goes! I'm wanting to move that way eventually!
How is the fan noise on that unit?
@@zfontain1975 Even when the refrigerator is defrosting, i have never heard the fans kick on and i charge at a pretty slow rate on solar and i haven't heard the fans on charging either. I think the charger for my EB70 is louder and it is really annoying.
@@johntate5284 your fans never kick on when running your 200max? I run mine 24/7 so the fans kick on and off unless I'm using under 150 watts then they stay off. I have 1000 watts of panels charging it daily.
My fans cycle on and off every couple minutes, they don't run all the time though. I have 550 watts going into this system on average.
Awesome video. I saw a reference to the eb200p somewhere and was wondering how it compared to the other 2 so this video was perfect. The AC200Max is almost perfect. Two things would make it perfect (I’ll add a third though 😊) 1. UPS functionality so I could get some use out of it even when I’m not traveling and 2. If it supported the new B300s batteries (even if through an adapter cable. Then 3. I would actually love a 1000wh version at reduced cost but same 2200w inverter, ports and features, just lower cost, and still expandable.
You can use the b300 batteries with the ac200max. Takes the same connection as to b230.
Hi, I have the UK version of the AC200P. The screen automatically turns off after one minute. Up to two B230 expansion batteries can be used with the AC200P through the DC inputs, although this reduces the configuration options and is not as flexible as the AC200MAX.
Interesting differences, thanks for sharing!
Great to see the head to head comparison, it may have changed my buying preference. 👍🐝🌞
Which way you leaning? I'm curious now!
I was looking hard at the AC200P, but seeing the head to head I am looking again at the AC200 Max,the side by side comparison shows all three in a good light, but the max looks to have the edge. 👍🐝😊
For a more accurate test for the idle power consumption especially for the AC200MAX you should discharge it to zero after the 10 hour idle test to see how much actual energy is left and subtract that from the actual capacity test. The EcoFlow Delta for example draws 3 watts when idle with the DC output on even though the SoC meter indicates 100% even after 24 hours.
Thanks for the feedback! Great tip.
This video is awesome. I was wondering about each of these devices the other day.
Thank you for testing idle drain!
You're welcome! Most other channels don't talk about it. It's a big factor in which model you'd want to go with!
Thanks for the review. I was an early adopter for the AC200P. This is a very good unit and the only negative I have is that the display cannot be seen in medium to bright conditions. In fact I have to use my cellphone camera to see the display often. The later units with bluetooth help with this but Bluetti needs to install brighter displays. My next purchase will be Bluetti and at a discount.
Make sure to watch out during black Friday, memorial day, and labor day. Those seem to be the best sales of the year.
Great video! Perfect to try to get my parents to look into stuff like this. However Bluetti has a major fail with their CS issues and I know for a fact my parents would never buy a product with lacking CS and betting that goes for many newbies entering the backup battery arena. Like you said, people spend a lot of money and expect / deserve good CS to stand behind products.
Check out Ecoflow, very similar spec but better customer service.
@@Jasonoid is there a specific model that matches up to these? Thanks!!
@@NatureZone101 Delta Max (Lithium Ion batteries) or the Delta 2 (LFP batteries)
@@Jasonoid Just checked your chart and it says the Delta Max isn't LiFePO bummer. Going to watch your review on it now.
@@Jasonoid Thanks! Watching your reviews now.
You can now use the B230 and B300 batteries with the AC200P. The power only goes in one direction from the battery to the main unit.
Yeah, that's why I don't really call it "expandable", since it doesn't charge the batteries back up like the AC200max.
I have several Bluetti products. Had a charger problem with the EB70. Phone service nonexistent and email response was slow and cumbersome. Months later no resolution. I have one EcoFlow powerstation and had a question about interference. They were very responsive, followed up and worked through solutions. Great service. Sadly EcoFlow has too much interference for my use but great for lights and frig. I am getting another large station and because of bad service it will not be Bluetti.
Thanks for sharing your feedback, I hope they can improve their service, especially over the phone!
Thank you for the side by side comparison.
You're welcome!
Thanks for the video and the spreadsheet.
You're welcome!
My power stations and big LiFeP04 battery came in handy again after the recent storm and power outage here. I was able to use my microwave and keep my fridge and freezer going and use WIFI. I run my lights from them so if the power goes out I don`t notice right away but don`t have to look for a flashlight.
Glad to hear your system is working!
Thanks Jason...great video...again. Heard same about their customer service. Just received my Pecron E2000 lfp. All kinds of issues with it out of the box. Not sure if it got abused, dropped during shipping or what happened. Reached out and within couple hrs issue resolved for return and replacement. Was considering Bluetti during my research and avoided because of many customer issues....second guessing myself but after hearing your ongoing experience with them think I'll stay away. Shame really like that AC200 Max. As far as the Pecron goes all the videos watched you guys talked it up quite a bit, hoping that the issues with this one is shipping related. 10 to 15 year Lithium Phosphate doesn't do much good if the unit continues to crap out after 6 months. Thanks for all your sharing.
How are you going with the Pecron?
Recently purchased an EB3A, had a question for tech support. Their phone number did change which was noted on the automated answering system. Called the next day and a customer service person answered fairly quickly and took care of the issue.
That's an improvement!
I liked your presentation. I have the AC200P and has been connected to my kitchen appliances, not the microwave and the propane stove. Pleased with the performance of the AC200P. The only issue is that I would like to expand AC200P to 3kb or 4kb.
Thanks Steve, there a couple different ways to expand your AC200p manually. I made a video on the topic HERE: th-cam.com/video/dTTneUtz4Jk/w-d-xo.html
The easiest way to do it is by connecting an extra 24v battery or 48 volt battery to the charging input.
I bought the AC200P and so far, I have been happy with it and because I wanted to expand the power, I bought the EB300 3072Wh and did not know it came with a giant cable which does not work with the 2000W system, so I had to purchase the adapter. I reached out to cust svc via chat and email and they responded pretty fast
Great job. Very informative. I would watch your other comparison videos.
Awesome, thank you!
Jason, sorry that I missed your LIVE! Excellent review between the three ... however, I just want to point out that the AC200P's capacity, as well as the solar, can be expanded by/with the B230, also, using the battery expansion cables ... (P090D-XT90, XT90-Aviation Plug). IDN if it will work with the EB200; although, I don't see why not, since they are so similarly built. #justsaying
The AC200p and EB200p are kinda "expandable", but if you connect an external battery does not charge back up with the power station itself. You have to charge it on your own with a separate charger. That's why the AC200max is much easier to use. The discharging and charging of the whole system happens automatically.
@@Jasonoid I usually wait until my AC200P is at 100% then charge the B230 from the AC200P using the AC power brick. I live in Golden Valley, AZ where I get 292 solar days.
@@Jasonoid No, I charge mine by having the special cable hooked up/connected to a/my B230, which is connected to a D050S, which is, in following, connected to my AC200/200P. The AC200/200P is charged up first, and, then, the B230 (is charged). You charge the B230 (via AC/solar with a D050S connected), which is connected to the AC200/200P ... where, then, the AC200/200P gets charged by the B230 first, followed by charging the B230. No separate/extra charger used/needed. How it works, and has been working, for me.
Thanks for such a thorough video.
Great video, I'd rather the AC200p and if I wanted to expand the power I'd buy the AC200 Max, But for me I'd want the AC200p for sure, Well done,
Picked up the AC200P refurbished full warranty for 599! Looking forward to playing with it!
That's a great price!
@@Jasonoid Thanks to your code! Amazed that it worked!!!
Really? Haha glad to hear it's still active!
@@Jasonoid Yep, it was on the maxoak site. I was just trying a bunch of codes and bam 599. I couldn't checkout fast enough. I tried it right after to test and it still worked but after a couple days no dice... Should be here Monday along with a refurbed pv350 @ $489! Hopefully these hold up..
@@Jasonoid Code seems to be working again for me if anyone wants to try!
I’ve had my ac500 + 2 b300s sense the first week of December. The delivery was much faster than I expected as it only took two weeks to deliver. So, good in them for that.
I mistakenly attempt to connect the unit to my 5Gh WiFi router. My bad. The unit continued to attempt to connect to the 5Gh and would not acknowledge the 2.4Gh even after a new downloading of the app and a factory reset of the unit. The responses to my requests for service were slow (at or over a week each time) and I never received a satisfactory fix for my issue. The issue eventually resolved itself and I was able to get the unit to acknowledge the 2.4Gh router. (I just kept mashing buttons until it fixed itself) However, the unit would not connect to the router with the status reading--Network Status: connecting
Server Status: not connected.
Same as before with the 5Gh router.
More than a week after my request I received an email. The email requested me to do all of the things I had already told them I had done or I had told them that were not available to me. When I checked the unit again via Bluetooth it was connected to the proper router. Yeah! I now had WiFi and full internet connection to my ac500. But wait.
One of the things they asked me to do was to update the app. I found no option to do this and the App Store showed my current update as the one that would be uploaded with the app. I did update the DSP and now the unit acknowledges the router but will not connect to the WiFi router. (Same status as above) It has been two days sense I emailed Bluetti and still no response.
Though out this process I have used FB messenger, email and app requests complete with multiple screen shots showing my processes and current statuses. None seem to illicit a faster response than the others.
There seems to be some form of language or communication issue here. Their only responses have come for the sales department, not the tech department. The sales department does not seem to understand the situation nor do they seem to be able to communicate the issues effectively to the tech department, as the responses are simply telling me to do things I’ve already told them I’ve done or to do things I’ve told them were not available to me at the time.
Bluetti. Seriously, stop producing new products and fix your customer service.
If anyone reads this far and wants an update, tag me.
I will be talking to them about this when speaking with their CEO at CES this weekend.
@@Jasonoid I would appreciate anything you could do to help get ahead of this issue. As my ac500 came out of the Indiegogo fund raiser, I can’t be the only one who has or will experience these issues.
I really feel like I’m just not being understood. They are listening, they just don’t seem to understand.
It's a communication issue and they are under staffed.
Update: 2300 hrs US central time zone. 5 Jan 23:
Current status obtained through Bluetooth.
Network Status:
Connecting
Server Status:
Not connected.
Proper WiFi name is listed.
After manually entering the WiFi information I received the green notification: WiFi saved.
You’re now able to remote control Bluetti device.
-- spoiler alert. I cannot.
App will not acknowledge the ac500 if my phone is connected to my WiFi (5Gh or 2.4Gh). App connection to the ac500 times out. I must turn off my phones WiFi and set my phone on cellular network or no internet access to access the ac500 via Bluetooth. --this is unchanged sense to received the ac500.
My case has been forwarded by Bluetti sales to someone with a poweroak email address. I was advised by the Bluetti sales rep to see that persons email reply for more information and to discuss the issue with them. I’ve received no email from the poweroak rep.
I’ll post more updates as they come.
Thanks, nice review comparison. One note though, I just got an AC200MAX and it came with the 500 watt power brick with the noisy fan.
Maybe they have both options? Weird!
I have reached out to bluetti several times & in every way & their customer service is the worst! I own 2- AC200P's & I have gone to their website to register both for the extended warranty & after you type in your info it comes back & says they will let you know if it excepted your info. Well after submitting both several times I still have not heard anything back & it's been over 4-weeks. So sad to say their warranty & customer service SUCK's! Jason, great video. You really need to do a comparison head-to-head with the bluetti ac200p & the OUKITEL P2001. that would be a good match up!!
Thanks Phil, I think their customer support could improve as well. I think I'll do a "2000wh LFP" comparison video once Ecoflow launches the larger Delta Max LFP model. Not sure when that will be though... Then I'll do a comparison from 5 or 6 2000wh models to see which one is the best!
Same issue here with Bluetti support. I still have not heard back from anybody!
I hope they read the comments section to get this feedback!
This review is if not a home run at least a triple, (pun intended)
From a truck camper perspective, I see a lot builds that rely on a Jackery or Goal Zero to make the leap into storing solar panel. I looked into it last year when do my own D.I.Y install and thought the Bluetti AC200P would be perfect. Here we are a year later and instead of my D.I.Y install, with the experience of replicating a solar power pack with separate components, I would call the EB200P a good enough alternative.
Granted my D.I.Y. build has couple of performance advantages over an all-in-on solar power pack - but it was way over budget and not easily removable should I have to sell the truck camper at low price.
I think DIY is a great way to go, especially if you mostly use DC power. It's all around more efficient and simple. If you really need AC power while out and about, a power station is a great simple solution! They both have their advantages and I use both throughout my camping trips :)
Jason I reported an issue with my eb3a unexpectedly shutting down indicating overload with only a 15W (modem) load connected. Reported the issue through the app on Nov 1, but except the confirmation email I haven’t received no other response from them. It seems they keep lacking an efficient customer support. 😬
Someone recently posted that they have 2 people on the phones and 3 people doing email. Thats not enough for how big the company is getting!
You can expand the AC200P. At least here in Australia
Is the EB200 not expandable at all ?
Well you can "expand it", but not in the official way the AC200MAX is expandable. You'd just plug a battery into the charging port to transfer power and the expansion battery doesn't charge up like and official one would...
I bought an ac200p 3 days ago and I realized it has an issue on my shipping address so I try and try several times to reach Bluetti to without any success. Because of that misfortune I give them only one fade star for their crapy service after sale. I will think twice next time before buying from them😢.
Excellent review..very much needed comparison...ty. hoping you can review the AC200max and AC300 and AC500
I have reviewed all of them.
Thank you for all of your hard work this was very informative.
Glad it was helpful! My goal was to make it easier to chose between all three of them.
Thanks for the test.
I could do with the EB in my Van Build. It's not easily available in EU. And pricing is not much lower than AC200max.
So I think I still need to go for the max.
It's €1849,00 in Germany. Free shipping into NL.
The AC200Max is probably worth buying if it just costs a little more in your area. You get quite a bit more efficiency and features on that model vs the EB200p and the AC200p. True expandability is also a plus.
@@Jasonoid yes, I think so too.
Maybe charge a larger pack for longer journey into less sunny areas.
I have the AC200P and I am extremely satisfied except that it doesn't work when temparature is below 0° Celcius. I think it's the case for all 3. The "annoyance" of the AC200P is the power consumption when idle. My advice : buy the AC200Max
The AC200max is discounted quite a bit since they released the brand new AC200L
Video
suggests AC200P does not work with extra batteries. Is that correct?
Correct, no Bluetti expansion batteries supported on the AC200P. You can use a DIY battery to extend the runtime.
Multiple articles and videos say the AC200P is expandable with bluetti expansion batteries but they can't be directly charged through the AC200P and must be charged separetely with a T500 adapter?
@@curmudgeon_OG yeah, their definition of "expandable" is by using a special charging adapter that costs $95. It is NOT a true expansion setup like the AC200max would be. The AC200P does not charge the battery back up like a true expansion setup. It's kinda a "gimmick" feature they claim...
@@Jasonoid Thanks. I alreay have the AC200P so I'm going to have to consider paying the extra I guess
You could do something like this:
th-cam.com/video/dTTneUtz4Jk/w-d-xo.html
There are MANY ways to create an expansion DIY battery. Buying a couple 100ah LFP batteries and putting them in series for a 24v battery would be much more affordable for 2500wh of capacity than buying Bluettis batteries. .
I loved the idea of Bluetti product based on specs, build and price. Unfortunatly if you have any issues and need to contact customer support you are up a proverbial raging river without a paddle. To say this company has customer support is a misnomer. They have a phone # that nobody answers and does not accept VM's. They have various email addresses that nobody responds to and when they do it is a differant person each time, some that have emails of outside organizations. Buyer beware you better hope your product works because if it does not it is a nightmare to get support or to return the unit.
My biggest issue is getting customer service on the phone. I've had my AC200MAX since Dec 2021 or 2020. Still have not got to set it up.
Excellent review Jason! Well thought and technical as always! Next item you should compare is zendures superbase v vs ecoflows Delta pro and bluetti ac500 .They seem to be the top dogs of the market. Which one is the best?
Great question!
Hi Jason..my name is Sharon. Brought the ac200max Dec 25, 2022. Was promised a free 30ft. Extension cable if I got the three solar panels. After calling about it I never got a response.
I've heard they are improving the support dramatically right now. I'd suggest trying again over the next few weeks to see if anything changed
Can a Bluetti add 5 miles of charging to a Tesla in one hour? This could be a big help if you come up short by 3 or 4 miles to make it to a supercharger. 110 volt charging in a garage adds about 5 miles in an hour. I have never needed this but if you are depending on a Bluetti for a camping trip and you come up short by a little to get you that little extra to a charger.
These have around 1700wh of capacity (1.7kwh). That sounds like it would give an electric car 5 miles 👍
A great video comparison and evaluations. Thanks.
I contacted Bluetti through their email support about a DC charge enhancer which had stopped working. They usually responded to each contact after a few days. After a week or so they sent a replacement unit. More recently I emailed them regarding my EB55 and the responses were a little more spread out. It’s not ideal but they do back the products. I just wonder what will happen if the touch screen on my AC200P fails out of warranty since it doesn’t have app capability. It works great now but it does make me a little nervous. 🤞🏻
I don't see the screen breaking unless it was to be damaged. It is back lit with led lights so those should last a very long time.
Rich Eastmain - I did not want to 'smudge' my AC200P touch screen with Pizza grease fouled fingers . . . . so experimented to see how sensitive it was & found right away that the soft rubber pencil eraser (on a pencil) works well with virtually no pressure required. The pencil is not sharpened & occasionally I goof & touch the screen with the wood end which works easily as well. 2 years in using it daily as my main supply for kitchen appliances & no issues.
@@richardhobbs7107 Good tip, I’ll give that a try. Thanks.
Now that's a good review. Not just unboxing like most reviews are 😂.
200max is my first bluetti so i can't say anything about customer support but EcoFlow has great support.
The worse company for any refunds or replacements is hand down dyson. Will never buy another product from them
For the ACMax...if one drains the unit itself of power and then connects a fully charged battery like the B230 or B300, will the unit operate to its full extent on the connected battery that is charged until that battery is then depleted?
When you connect up a battery to the AC200max it will "average" out the power from two batteries so I'm guessing it would show 50% capacity on the screen with the main battery at 0% and one expansion battery at 100%
Jason would likee your thoughts on the ac200 max and the ac300 would like to use one of these for my wood shop and the biggest power usage is my wood lathe which is 13.5 amps or 1620 w.
Question, if you plug only into the expansion b300 battery and don’t have any input source to the ac200max, will it charge the entire system (ac200max + b300, connected together) ? The reason I ask is because I see many saying that when they charge primarily through the ac200max only, the b300 doesn’t reach 100% charge because the ac200max reached full charge first and stops all charges v input for safety, and so the b300 gets left behind. So I figured, what if you charge primarily from the expansion battery to overcome that problem. Appreciate any thoughts you have.
You can charge the B300 completely separate from the AC200max to get it full. It has its own built in solar charge controller. I haven't messed with that setup too much, but when I did, I never saw any weird things. Sorry I can't be of more help.
* Important Note *
Just turning on the 120volt inverter can use up to1/3 of your battery power over night with no load !
Actually it doesnt, at least on the AC200Max. I demonstrated that in the video under the AC testing results. The AC200p and EB200p were more usage, pretty impressed how improved the AC200Max was! .
@@Jasonoid My AC200Max will not draw any power with the inverter on with no load.
@@ersim2187 it uses power in the background, it won't show it on the display. I showed the idle power usage in the video
I think that silent power supply on the AC200Max was because they couldn't get partsduring the pandemic, there was an apology note with my one (also notice the brick isn't branded Bluetti). It was normally supposed to come with the faster (and louder!) charger. I prefer the silence
Probably the case, I've see the AC200MAX come with the larger charger too!
My EB3A that I purchased at a great discounted Price also had a failure then I returned product through store purchased.
My EB3A works great.
When the sun comes up and the solar activates will it automatically turn on the second battery in charge?
Each of these turn on with solar charging input, however the AC inverters will not turn on automatically.
would really appreciate if you could show a small table after each test with the values! thank you
You can find tons of tracked data here on my website:
jasonoid.com/powerstations/
Like you I couldn't get in touch physically with support I had ordered a 2nd 120 solar panel hadn't heard a word about it being shipped after about 3 weeks so I sent them a email wondering how long g til it shipped,3 days later I received it by FedEx was shipped in a Amazon box so I'm guessing they where out but sent me one either from Amazon or one intended for Amazon,so I'm guessing they are listening.
What will be the best Black Friday deal under $400?
EcoFlow River 2 Max with a free 110w solar panel: amzn.to/3Ast3nZ
Right now that's not the active deal but keep an eye out. Theres currently a $180 coupon on the Max.
Can the 200max run the caravan aircon 2200 watt
Hmm I have the Millertech EB200 and I drew it down and was getting 1,720 to 1,740wh. But mine was drawn down from the 12v plug. 🤷♂️
If I was buying again I'd go for the MAX.
The max does have a few extra features and a little more efficiency. Finding it on a decent sale would make it worth it.
Awesome reviews. Thx you so much. Can any of these three withdraw and Charging the same time if I'm in a house wall or in my car using - 12v?
Yes, all three of these support charging and discharging at the same time.
Can the AC200Max be connected with the new B80, either one or two?
I don't have the AC60/B80 to confirm.... but from my understanding the connection is completely different and it's not supported.
The AC200Max is $1599 on Amazon right now.
All good fun watching all these tech reviews but some of you guys should review customer service and repair. I spent over a month trying to figure out how get my Bluetti repaired which had just gone out of warranty. After dozens of emails to Bluetti and MaxOak they offered absolutely NO options to repair my unit. Who on earth would buy something costing thousands of dollars when you can’t get the damn thing repaired in a couple of years.
I see people can expand the EB200p. But you said it could not be expanded. Is the correct?
It will "expand" by plugging a battery into the charging port, but it won't sync up with the power station and the external battery won't charge up with the power station like a power station with a true expansion port.
The AC is only $1699 on there web site but I’ve seen the EB200p for $1199 on Walmart twice.
Those are excellent prices!
Best review out of 4 reviewers. 1/31/2024
Can you speak about extension cords I have noticed lately that they all come in different colors but I'm not understanding the color code as far as how much wattage that each carries when I'm using a portable power station any insight on the right cord for a particular power station 300/600/700/800/1000/ 2,000
It's always best to go with the larger gauge extension cords for safety. Using undersized cables mixed with high wattage will cause a fire. In my opinion, there's no reason to use a smaller sized cable (14awg, 16awg, 18awg). For best safety you should use 12awg extension cables and try to keep them under 50 feet long for heavy loads continous loads. Its expensive but safety is key.
@@Jasonoid So what color is that cord for the 12awg?
@@dionnesanders2304 they are all different colors, yellow is the most common color but you'll have to look at the product description for 12awg
Question? Dose the fan run with AC or DC enabled only (NO LOAD)? While using AC the fan on most units runs for cooling, dose this unit (AC200MAX) have a thermostat for fan use?
Thanks
It only runs as needed and has a sensor to tell the fan when to turn back on. The larger the load and the warmer it is outside, the more and fan will run. It hardly ever runs with no load on the power station.
@@Jasonoid Thanks for the reply! I have an OLD Kodiac unit and the fan powers on as soon as you turn AC on!! Glad this has a thermostat. Need a more powerful 120v wattage unit.
Again Thanks
Any discounts for the expansion batteries?
Thank you for this review!! Really helped me. Question... DC output from the 5521 barrel ports. There are two ports... is it possible to pull 10a from a single port or just 5 amps. 10amp being the total output of the two ports. thank you
10 amps from the cig port and barrel ports at the same time, so it's 10 amps total combined power.
@@Jasonoid yes, but can a pull 10amps from a single 5521 port?
@@nwlady1844 yes, I think so. (This video is super old so whatever I showed in the video 👍)
@@Jasonoid You didn't show or test this for the ac200max
Hi Jason. Do you have a recommendation for a power station besides bluetti that has 30a dc out? Was looking at growatt 2200 but saw another video that pointed out some real problems with the unit. Thanx
The Pecron E1500LFP has a 30 amp DC out. The Oupes Mega 2 does as well. Same with the Ugreen 2200. Not a ton of options but there are a few. You could also use the Bluetti D40 with the AC200L.