First mistake, as I understand it, is buying one in the first place. If you don’t have decent customer service, then, you’re not a company worth dealing with.
The instructions with the AC200P says to run it to first run it down to 0% due to the power meter recalibrating what 0% and 100% actually compute to from the battery… no two batteries are the same so it’s very sensitive to make sure you get 100% out of the battery.
My AC200Max would always have a wildly fluctuating state of charge, especially in the cold. Sometimes it would "lose" 90% of the battery overnight! My solution was just to never let it turn off. I leave the DC output on all the time. The self-discharge from doing that is probably there, but tiny. The smallest solar input is enough to make up for it.
#3 I bought this unit 3 years ago and recently, lost over 50% state of charge will not recalibrate via 100-->0% and 0%-->100 several times no load. Emailed Bluetti and I am out of luck in Canada. They refused request for repair because their repair facilities are closed in Canada. Really not happy about that...
BLUETTI shouldn’t do that to Canadian customers. That, as an American, tells me a lot about the company. I am a customer but, I didn’t know about this prior to purchasing my units. I’ll keep an eye open as to how other companies handle the same issues. Thanks for sharing and I’m sorry you’ve all gone through that. It sucks.
I have the ac200p and I've been looking for decent, affordable solar panels for charging it. All of the youtube videos I've seen say that THREE 12 volt panels in series, or higher is REQUIRED for this unit to charge. This does NOT seem to be true according to what I've just learned from Renogy. This is what Renogy has to say about it: What does the 12V/24V in the product title of the solar panel mean? The 12V/24V in product titles (ex. 100W 12V Monocrystalline Solar panel) does not refer to the actual voltage (Voc or Vmp) of the solar panels, but rather to the voltage of the solar system or energy storage system to which the panel is best suited. Most 12 volt panels have a higher VOC, and from what I've seen, 2 panels should charge the ac200p based on VOC numbers. I've found one 24-volt, 200 watt panel that has a VOC of 43.60, plenty sufficient to charge the bluetti. I just learned this information and come back to youtube to see that no one is correcting this misinformation. The Bluetti requires a VOC of 35-150, NOT a voltage of 35-150....
At the 9:48 mark you state that the AC200P is not expandable. However, it is compatible with both the B230 and B300 Expansion Batteries. In fact, Bluetti sells both as upgrades for the AC200P.
@@AdventureGearTV According to Bluetti, the B300S only works with the AC500. I should also mention that, when adding an expansion battery to the AC200P, the cables that come with the battery, despite what Bluetti leads people to believe, will not enjoin the two. You'll need to buy an additional $129.00 cable.
The only Bluetti I’ve owned is the AC50S. I haven’t had any issues whatsoever with it. As far as wireless charging, Apple actually limits the charging to 7.5 watts unless you’re using an authentic Apple charger.
You can expand the 200P with a B200 battery module. Holding the B200 power button until it blinks enables connection to the 200P. My only complaint is my RV has a 13.5Kw AC, very common rating, and the startup draw sometimes overloads the 200P. The 200Max won't have this problem.
@@stevenglasser2150 At least you can install a Soft Start capacitor to the Dometic or other RV AC's and that will stop the overload. I think the two 200's linked will run an AC for 2-3 hours. Of course, the sun will be shining so three solar panels will be recharging that entire time leaving you with partially recharged batteries for getting through the night.
My AC200P will "not" charge via wall charger, stops charging at different charge levels, never to 100% usually 30s to 60s. charges fine thru solar. Company offered me a free bag if I removed my neg. Review! Lol….ecoflow for me now, F Bluetti. I’ve owned it for a few years now, collecting dust.
I've had by ac200P for about a year, mostly keeping it for back up. I occasionally run a coffee maker on it to test it out. I haven't noticed any battery % issues but that could be bc I'm not putting heavy loads on it for long. I will test it out and run it down to zero and recharge it. Should I do that at least a few times a year since its just for back up light/internet/fridge power?
#3 My issue with my AC180 is that it seems to not actually hold the watts that it claims. Calculating the drain in watts per hr it seems to actually hold about 75% of the watt hours it claims to store
I wish I could charge while driving and charge from solar, Both inputs. Just started using more in camper van. So far so good. Wish I had been able to get the max. Did not come out till later.
I love mine. I bought it a few years ago, but it sat in its box unused for a while. It's 80 pounds packed. Then, my grandson took it to where we would use it. My daughter and her friend set it up on the table. It is heavy, and I love it! I use it every night. The fan is on a table beside me, with minimal noise. I got used to the light inside the Bluetti as it is low. The light on the front is brighter. It bothered me when I had it on the floor. Now that it is on the table, it is in front of my line of sight, and the light of the on button and screen no longer bothers us. Even our dog, who sleeps in her bed in front of our bed, has gotten used to the light. She likes dark and quiet, but dogs get used to things fast. LOL I just bought the A300 & B300 System and the Bluetti Trolley. Heavy! We wanted the A500 but that cost more.
Recently my voltage overcharge fault undicator tripped. I am running 7 weize 100w panels that have a max of 18.46v per panel. This would be about 130v which is within the 35-150 v range. Anyone else encounter this? It ran all summer without issues then in December it tripped. I am tempted to pull a panel, but hate to give up the watts.
How has this been holding up over the past few months? Mine is arriving this week and I’m mainly concerned about the inverter insufficiency/parasitic losses. How effective is the draining it to 0% and then recharge to 100%? Is it a major difference or just help out a little? If could provide any numbers regarding your inverter efficiency since you made this video I would sincerely appreciate it! We lose power about once a month in the summer due to storms, anywhere from 15 min to a full a day. I’m planning on using this for those days. Now I’m worried if it’s been sitting for a month or so and then the power goes out and it has lost all of its stored charge I am going to be completely screwed and there’s no point in me buying it if it can’t hold a charge in store for a month or longer
Hi, I appreciate you stopping in. I have not used this power station much, because I’ve been on the road since filming this video. The biggest complaint I’ve heard it that this one has a higher than usual minimum operating cost. Meaning that it burns power with the AC inverter idling. However, no issue with leaving it off for extended periods and parasitic drain. This model is not the most current, so hopefully you got a good deal on it. Also, some of the newer ones have more Bluetooth connectivity features.
Thanks for the response!, as long as it can hold a charge while it’s off in storage and can be used months later when the power goes out and not be completely empty by the time the power goes out then my anxiety is relieved! Paid about $950 for a new one which seemed like a good deal, might regret it when Black Friday comes around though
@@bobbymiller518I have gone a few months without turning it on and have lost no noticeable power (less than 1 percent). The “losses” people talk about are from them turning the ac of dc inverters ON and then complaining about Physics… ie all inverters “use” electricity when on even if no load is plug in.
I'm gonna try and make an explanation for the power issues without any actual credentials or knowledge. And without truly being able to understand the problem you're describing because I've got some brain fog and a lot of tech talk goes over my head XD Ideas That Should Be Ignored: 1. phone loses charge because the heat steals battery life faster than the Bluetti can charge. 2. If you have any cords connected to the thing, the power is sitting or getting lost in the cords. 3. The bluetti is just too clunky to send energy to multiple areas. .... i really need to understand electronics better. Even reading those makes me shake my head. I'm pretty sure all three of those were problems solved around the time I was born, and would NOT be an issue now in 2023. XD
I have a tendency to start spouting off numbers and words. But, the other side of it is not enough information. It’s hard to find a good balance. All true statements you made here.
I have one of these. I've only just started using it. I was hoping to find out if I have a faulty ac charger. When I plug it into power alone (not plugged into the ac200p) the fans start running. The fans run all the time whether it is charging or not - is that normal?
The fan on the T500 charger (and the T200 charger for smaller Bluetti units) will run whenever the charger is powered on, regardless of if it is connected to the Bluetti or not. For this reason i actually bought the older T400 charger which is passively cooled to charge at home so i wasnt annoyed by the fan all the time.
aviation cord, then hook that to a 12 volt fuse panel and you can power up all your dc stuff, our whole cabin is 12 volt, except for all the receptacles that are hot when i fire up the generator
NOOO! watch out for the bluetti warranty is no good. I have the ac200p this unit battery numbers are very lower. unit is junk. only 1 years old, Also I have #3 350w portable panels failed (NOT WORKING) I'VE been working with kiki at bluetti she's is given me the run a round. Five mouths and I have #3 panels that do not work and a junk power station. Sorry see you in Quartzsite!
I bought the ac200p it turn up with faults on pv/car and ac output it's been over 2 weeks and still getting the run around,there is no customer service,I seriously wouldn't buy anything from this company
First mistake, as I understand it, is buying one in the first place. If you don’t have decent customer service, then, you’re not a company worth dealing with.
You just can't afford it.
Crowd funded Blueti so far I haven't noticed any problems, yet. Love it!
1. No issues. Love it! Very expensive and solar panels are expensive also.
The instructions with the AC200P says to run it to first run it down to 0% due to the power meter recalibrating what 0% and 100% actually compute to from the battery… no two batteries are the same so it’s very sensitive to make sure you get 100% out of the battery.
as an eco flow delta buyer i loved that 12v 25amp outlet i loved it even more when my new unit just blown the 12v outlet for a snap of a moment
My AC200Max would always have a wildly fluctuating state of charge, especially in the cold. Sometimes it would "lose" 90% of the battery overnight!
My solution was just to never let it turn off. I leave the DC output on all the time. The self-discharge from doing that is probably there, but tiny. The smallest solar input is enough to make up for it.
#3 I bought this unit 3 years ago and recently, lost over 50% state of charge will not recalibrate via 100-->0% and 0%-->100 several times no load. Emailed Bluetti and I am out of luck in Canada. They refused request for repair because their repair facilities are closed in Canada. Really not happy about that...
I’m sorry to hear that. It seems like a big deal that bluetti won’t repair it in Canada. Even out of warranty work.
Same issue. $2000 paperweight.
Yup. Same here.
BLUETTI shouldn’t do that to Canadian customers. That, as an American, tells me a lot about the company. I am a customer but, I didn’t know about this prior to purchasing my units. I’ll keep an eye open as to how other companies handle the same issues. Thanks for sharing and I’m sorry you’ve all gone through that. It sucks.
I am pretty certain no case will ever allow good wireless charging. I always take line off, even Apple cases.
I have the ac200p and I've been looking for decent, affordable solar panels for charging it. All of the youtube videos I've seen say that THREE 12 volt panels in series, or higher is REQUIRED for this unit to charge. This does NOT seem to be true according to what I've just learned from Renogy. This is what Renogy has to say about it:
What does the 12V/24V in the product title of the solar panel mean?
The 12V/24V in product titles (ex. 100W 12V Monocrystalline Solar panel) does not refer to the actual voltage (Voc or Vmp) of the solar panels, but rather to the voltage of the solar system or energy storage system to which the panel is best suited.
Most 12 volt panels have a higher VOC, and from what I've seen, 2 panels should charge the ac200p based on VOC numbers. I've found one 24-volt, 200 watt panel that has a VOC of 43.60, plenty sufficient to charge the bluetti. I just learned this information and come back to youtube to see that no one is correcting this misinformation. The Bluetti requires a VOC of 35-150, NOT a voltage of 35-150....
I have not tried this, but your assessment sounds correct. One 24v panel should put out 40+ volts.
Try putting it in car charging mode in the settings. I believe it works with solar panels allowing you to run a lower rated panel
Great job. Very informative for a first time buyer. Thanks for sharing that. 👍🏼
At the 9:48 mark you state that the AC200P is not expandable. However, it is compatible with both the B230 and B300 Expansion Batteries. In fact, Bluetti sells both as upgrades for the AC200P.
That’s great to hear. Thanks for letting me know. Do you know if it’s also compatible with the B300S?
@@AdventureGearTV According to Bluetti, the B300S only works with the AC500. I should also mention that, when adding an expansion battery to the AC200P, the cables that come with the battery, despite what Bluetti leads people to believe, will not enjoin the two. You'll need to buy an additional $129.00 cable.
That answer is what im looking for! THX @CRA677. I wanna buy a B300 for the ac200P.
@@AdventureGearTV I haven't looked into this one. Their website is convoluted, which makes research rather painful at best.
I have an ac200max and my iPhone 14 pro without a case and can confirm it will not wirelessly charge for more than 5-10 seconds
Also, do a software update that helps a lot of the issues Great review my friend.
The only Bluetti I’ve owned is the AC50S. I haven’t had any issues whatsoever with it. As far as wireless charging, Apple actually limits the charging to 7.5 watts unless you’re using an authentic Apple charger.
That makes sense. Only the best for Apple products. I’m glad you had a good experience with the AC50S. #1
The power brick fan is loud as hell as soon as plugged in, even if the powerstation is fully charged.
why dont you recharge phone with the cable ?
WOW ..... this video helped me a lot!!! thanks
You can expand the 200P with a B200 battery module. Holding the B200 power button until it blinks enables connection to the 200P.
My only complaint is my RV has a 13.5Kw AC, very common rating, and the startup draw sometimes overloads the 200P. The 200Max won't have this problem.
I've got a 200 max, a dometic penguin will overload my system on the startup load so I'm sure an RV system will do the same sadly
@@stevenglasser2150 At least you can install a Soft Start capacitor to the Dometic or other RV AC's and that will stop the overload.
I think the two 200's linked will run an AC for 2-3 hours. Of course, the sun will be shining so three solar panels will be recharging that entire time leaving you with partially recharged batteries for getting through the night.
My AC200P will "not" charge via wall charger, stops charging at different charge levels, never to 100% usually 30s to 60s. charges fine thru solar. Company offered me a free bag if I removed my neg. Review! Lol….ecoflow for me now, F Bluetti. I’ve owned it for a few years now, collecting dust.
I've had by ac200P for about a year, mostly keeping it for back up. I occasionally run a coffee maker on it to test it out. I haven't noticed any battery % issues but that could be bc I'm not putting heavy loads on it for long. I will test it out and run it down to zero and recharge it. Should I do that at least a few times a year since its just for back up light/internet/fridge power?
#3
My issue with my AC180 is that it seems to not actually hold the watts that it claims. Calculating the drain in watts per hr it seems to actually hold about 75% of the watt hours it claims to store
Thanks this video is just what i needed to see!
Nice! I’m glad you liked it.
I wish I could charge while driving and charge from solar, Both inputs. Just started using more in camper van. So far so good. Wish I had been able to get the max. Did not come out till later.
Between this AC200P and the new AC180 which would you chose?
I'm here because I bought a AC180 and it seems that it's not holding enough charge (ie.. drains faster than I think it should based on calculate draw)
1:23 I'm a truck driver... Prime Inc? or I'm I seeing things. I'm a tanker driver but for a smaller carrier. keep up the good reviews.
I love mine. I bought it a few years ago, but it sat in its box unused for a while. It's 80 pounds packed. Then, my grandson took it to where we would use it. My daughter and her friend set it up on the table. It is heavy, and I love it! I use it every night. The fan is on a table beside me, with minimal noise. I got used to the light inside the Bluetti as it is low. The light on the front is brighter. It bothered me when I had it on the floor. Now that it is on the table, it is in front of my line of sight, and the light of the on button and screen no longer bothers us. Even our dog, who sleeps in her bed in front of our bed, has gotten used to the light. She likes dark and quiet, but dogs get used to things fast. LOL
I just bought the A300 & B300 System and the Bluetti Trolley. Heavy! We wanted the A500 but that cost more.
Hallo can charge with solar and 24v from cigarette lighter
Same time thanks
I bought one. I was wondering if I can use 12v 30-60 amps draw.
3, my eb70S charges to only 80% a lot of the time.
Number three it’s losing battery life at three years old. Will not turn back on with solar or power supply.
2 my initial unit went bad and they replaced it with no issues.
I have it and love it.
is it advisable to use it while charging either by ac or solar?
input and output at the same time is quite OK for the unit
Got 2 an ecoflow 160 watt panels on the way!
Recently my voltage overcharge fault undicator tripped. I am running 7 weize 100w panels that have a max of 18.46v per panel. This would be about 130v which is within the 35-150 v range. Anyone else encounter this? It ran all summer without issues then in December it tripped. I am tempted to pull a panel, but hate to give up the watts.
Thanks that’s good to know!
AC200Max melted the male cigarette lighter plug. Bluetti replaced it quickly.
I just purchased the same model. Shipped it to my daughter. She runs a fan off of it. Loses 50% of its power overnight. Is this normal.
The AC inverter pulls a lot of standby power. Try a DC/ USB-C fan. The AC inverter pulls about 1-2% per hour just to be on.
How has this been holding up over the past few months? Mine is arriving this week and I’m mainly concerned about the inverter insufficiency/parasitic losses. How effective is the draining it to 0% and then recharge to 100%? Is it a major difference or just help out a little? If could provide any numbers regarding your inverter efficiency since you made this video I would sincerely appreciate it!
We lose power about once a month in the summer due to storms, anywhere from 15 min to a full a day. I’m planning on using this for those days. Now I’m worried if it’s been sitting for a month or so and then the power goes out and it has lost all of its stored charge I am going to be completely screwed and there’s no point in me buying it if it can’t hold a charge in store for a month or longer
Hi, I appreciate you stopping in. I have not used this power station much, because I’ve been on the road since filming this video. The biggest complaint I’ve heard it that this one has a higher than usual minimum operating cost. Meaning that it burns power with the AC inverter idling. However, no issue with leaving it off for extended periods and parasitic drain. This model is not the most current, so hopefully you got a good deal on it. Also, some of the newer ones have more Bluetooth connectivity features.
Thanks for the response!, as long as it can hold a charge while it’s off in storage and can be used months later when the power goes out and not be completely empty by the time the power goes out then my anxiety is relieved!
Paid about $950 for a new one which seemed like a good deal, might regret it when Black Friday comes around though
@@bobbymiller518 get a small solar panel and hook it up. That way it remains topped off for no cost.
@@bobbymiller518I have gone a few months without turning it on and have lost no noticeable power (less than 1 percent). The “losses” people talk about are from them turning the ac of dc inverters ON and then complaining about Physics… ie all inverters “use” electricity when on even if no load is plug in.
@@bobbymiller518I charged mine to 100% right out of the box, then stored it away for 6 months. It was at 98% when I turned it back on.
I'm gonna try and make an explanation for the power issues without any actual credentials or knowledge. And without truly being able to understand the problem you're describing because I've got some brain fog and a lot of tech talk goes over my head XD
Ideas That Should Be Ignored:
1. phone loses charge because the heat steals battery life faster than the Bluetti can charge.
2. If you have any cords connected to the thing, the power is sitting or getting lost in the cords.
3. The bluetti is just too clunky to send energy to multiple areas.
.... i really need to understand electronics better. Even reading those makes me shake my head. I'm pretty sure all three of those were problems solved around the time I was born, and would NOT be an issue now in 2023. XD
I have a tendency to start spouting off numbers and words. But, the other side of it is not enough information. It’s hard to find a good balance. All true statements you made here.
I see a lot of refurbished bluetti being offered nowadays
There must be a good reason for that. Read the signs, folks.
All brands have "pros & cons"...do the research, you see what I am saying!
There are so many ways for engineers to hide or mask problems for years.
Great video thanks....I saving to buy 0ne...have a day 😊
Thank you! Good luck, which one are you saving for?
I want one that can charge my little refrigerator eb55 blueitti..I think 🤔
Thank you
I have one of these. I've only just started using it. I was hoping to find out if I have a faulty ac charger. When I plug it into power alone (not plugged into the ac200p) the fans start running. The fans run all the time whether it is charging or not - is that normal?
That doesn’t sound normal. The fan should only run when it’s hot.
Ahh, thankyou for that. I have been coresponding with bluetti amazon and they're being a bit cagey. I thought it was wrong.@@AdventureGearTV
The fan on the T500 charger (and the T200 charger for smaller Bluetti units) will run whenever the charger is powered on, regardless of if it is connected to the Bluetti or not. For this reason i actually bought the older T400 charger which is passively cooled to charge at home so i wasnt annoyed by the fan all the time.
@@TheColinputer Thankyou for that. Those fans do indeed run all the time by design!
What would you plug into that 2 prong 25A DC output?
aviation cord, then hook that to a 12 volt fuse panel and you can power up all your dc stuff, our whole cabin is 12 volt, except for all the receptacles that are hot when i fire up the generator
For this amount of money u shouldn't have any problems.
My bluetti does not charge any phones, from the topside.
I've been told that you have to turn on the dc power for the wireless charging to work.
3 wireless charging does not charge my phone all the way.
NOOO! watch out for the bluetti warranty is no good. I have the ac200p this unit battery numbers are very lower. unit is junk. only 1 years old, Also I have #3 350w portable panels failed (NOT WORKING) I'VE been working with kiki at bluetti she's is given me the run a round. Five mouths and I have #3 panels that do not work and a junk power station. Sorry see you in Quartzsite!
That’s disappointing!
This or the pecron lfp 2000?
I have a feeling it’s going to be the new Delta 2 Max. It’s the most up to date, but I have not seen the price yet.
Do you do tours? I don’t want to have to buy all that stuff.
Hi, what do mean by do tours? Van tours?
@@AdventureGearTV yah I would never buy any off that stuff. Say 120 a night for the full camping experience.
QUESTION:.....if the bluetti can only charge with the power ON....then how can u charge it IF the battery percentage gets to 0%???
The display will say 0%, but there is still power inside. It’s like a reserve.
@@AdventureGearTV yes, for the ac200p it keeps 10% aside. This is so the batteries don't actually run flat; 0% charge isn't good for them.
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My bluetti will shut off anywhere from 5 percent to 65 percent.
So what’s the price my guy?
It’s $1299 today. Prices fluctuate a little with the seasons.
1,200-1,500
Doesn’t charge via solar power
This one had a higher voltage requirement for solar charging. Is that the problem, or is it just not charging?
I plugged the panels into it for a full sunny day. No charge. I plugged it in to the house outlet via the battery pack for 5 hours. No charge.
Do you work for Jackery?
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Again engineering smoke and mirrors.
SIXTY POUNDS??? THAT'S THE SIZE OF A CHILD WHAT THE HECK
Yes that's because of the size of the battery. If you buy this, get a cart for it.
They’re all heavy. I didn’t want to forget to mention it.
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What about just getting a cheap one?
I bought the ac200p it turn up with faults on pv/car and ac output it's been over 2 weeks and still getting the run around,there is no customer service,I seriously wouldn't buy anything from this company
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