I like the technology. That shade feature is a must for us folks that live in small neighborhoods where we don't have an open field to place our solar panels. Also, the smaller size is great for us small homeowners. Thanks so much, Jason.
@@danieltimisan6820so why is it a “scam” as you put it. Compared to other panels this panel delivers the best performance under various adverse circumstances at a competitive price. Did you even watch the video?
This is what I've been waiting for! I've currently got around 1200W of deployed solar on my sailboat but shading is a massive problem. Two masts, rigging, and equipment aloft constantly shade various panels throughout the day, and I generally see less than 4kWh of production on a perfectly clear day near the equinox. I wouldn't be surprised if these panels net a 50% increase in production. I'm maxxed out, space-wise, but 6kWh could pretty much meet my entire electrical demand and allow me to spend weeks at anchor without running a generator.
I think the 100 watt Shade Stopper came down ( very briefly) to $129. This is such a great technology, can’t wait until it’s more common with more manufacturers.
Always the best solar reviews! Thanks Jason! I really like the smaller size, seems like an attractive option for mounting to overlanding rigs due to smaller size and shade tolerance
Great video! I think a lot of us deal with partial shading at some point in the day. This panel appears to to resolve this issue quite well. Would probably have to run them in a series/parallel config to keep that VOC in check, but not a big deal at under 7A per panel. And that footprint for this 200W panel is amazingly small in comparison. Thanks for the review on these- Happy New Year!
This is a really good product for someone like myself looking to convert my 1-car garage to off grid power with limited roof space for the panels. Thanks for sharing!
Not quite as good (for shade tolerance) as the CIGGS panel but better than pretty much anything else at about 40% of the price. Great review and demo of the shade tolerance. I wonder if another TH-cam reviewer will shoot it full of holes and run over it with a quad:) TOPCON cells are made from n-type (doped) silicon where as most others (silicon) are p-type silicon, which is typically more expensive. They typically do better in space and are more tolerant of radiation damage. I guess enough nerd! Thanks for reviewing them!
@@Jasonoid I made and characterized silicon solar cells for 17 years and it's nice to see this technology that i was making 12 years ago finally make it to the consumer level at really good pricing
Happy New Year Jason! Some of these new panels, that are available, are getting pretty good. These ones look like they would be a good option for the roof of RVs. I look forward to another year of your videos, & all the advancements in technology forthcoming!
I think the HQST panels are a branch of Renogy (their panels have the exact sizing and specs). I wonder if HQST will come out with something like this.
The winter shading is destroying my solar gains. I have 1800w of panels and on a good day i am getting about 1700wh for the whole day. I like this new renogy! Jason, any chance you have 2 of the shade stopper panels? Would be cool to see a shadowflux VS shadestopper (2in parallel) VS comparable bifacial with at least 10bb and halfcut cells.
These new N-type panels are amazing. I have a couple of them. This is great for van life where size is a premium and the shadow effect. For home usage, still too expensive for the usable wattage per $1. I mean I can spend $90 for 150w usable wattage vs $219 for 195w.
Great points! Usually space and shading performance are very important in a portable setup so that's what these are aimed for. If you are going big, pick up some 400w panels for $150 each.
Impressive performance. Just curious, if you shade a whole row (top to bottom), does is still perform well? Just was curious if they were connecting the cells in a way that might impact that kind of shading more than the left to right shading. I have some rough shading in the winter months for the ones on my shed due to some neighbor's trees.
If you have a small project that's going to be in the shade, these panels are a great option. For a larger project without shade, stick with traditional 400w panels.
Awesome test. Not every solar panel can be mounted at the optimum angle, which we all know angle can also reduce output. An example would be on top of an RV, where most have to be flat. I’d love to see a test between the two panels at different angles (flat to optimum) and see how the two compare and performance.
I bought two of these in a 2pack for charging my Bluetti 200L that accepts up to 145 volts charging…I’m so tempted to buy a third panel to almost max out the allowed input voltage
This looks like a very impressive solar panel especially if it can be purchased for the sale price. I'm a home owner that has to look out for shading and this is the best option so far both for the cost and especially the efficiency. Would be nice to have a little bit more testing particularly when shading. What wattage would you get when shading half the panel in the other direction (lengthwise)? Knowing that value would probably have me order a number of panels instantly. Thanks for the review Jason!
Current 400w panels have two halves, one 200w panel on top, one 200w panel on bottom. If you are only shading the bottom or top of the panel you'll get an okay shading performance. Vertical shading you'll lose most of the power. The 400w panels might be more cost effective for your project.
So as long as you dont have a shading issue your fine with the regular panels.. 2-100w Renogy panels run about $166 with another 30% coupon on top of that.. we live in Nevada.. so shade isnt a thing around us lol.. still a nice panel though..
These also take up less space so you could technically install more of these panels in the same space. The main advantage is shading performance though 👍
I'd love to see it kind of shaded by leaves. You know the kind of patchy moving shadows where some light gets through? I'd want to put them on the roof of my little shed/cabin set up I'm planning so I can visit my mother more often. Her yard/property is surrounded by trees, I'm sure I can angle them in a way where I can get a few hours of good clear sunlight, but most of the day will probably be partially shaded at least.
I love the panel. I have a lot of shade trees in my yard and this could help me from chasing the sun when I use my units . I have the generation one EcoFlow Delta Max 2000 units so have to watch the voltage. Do you know if connecting them in parallel would offer more or less the same results? As always, a top notch video.
Can you review the Callsun N type 100w panel? It's the smallest 100w panel, smaller than BougeRV N type, but no bifacial and I've read mix reviews on output from over 100w to 87w. Both are good but i only buy panels that output their stated watts. And the Callsun are crazy cheap.
Very useful info, thank you. I wish you would of compared both panels using shade from a branch with no leaf. This situation is frequent in the winter Months.
I don't agree the solar panels are a good price. Maybe considering the shading thing, if you have no other choice, but for most people you can buy good solar panels for .22c-45c per watt easily(excluding shipping). Now if you want less than 10 panels, specifically just 2-4, this might be the only case this is a better option for you.
These panels are meant for a smaller application where shading is an issue. Think of an RV, sailboat, shed roof, enclosed trailer or other similar installs.
Newbie to solar here. I thought shade meant when there is not full sun. Have you tested that with maybe a 10- 20% shade cloth covering the entire panel?
Could you do another video where you test the ability to work on an overcast day? You could set up a light panel on a day with intermittent overcast and try to measure output based on the lux reading at the panel. Then build your summary table based on the lux readings and corresp;onding power outputs. My guess is that this panel will operate with more overcast than other panels. Understanding if we can get even 1/10th of the rated power on a rainy or overcast day would be a big deal.
That's extremely impressive. For some of us with postage stamp sized backyards this would probably make a good option. Especially if you are in my situation where a pesky little tree branch at certain times of the day, is killing half the wattage. I would love to see a foldable option. Doesn't have to be in the 200w range necessarily, but say in the 120w range perhaps? So it's small enough that lugging it around say in the back of your car or whatever is not a big problem, but it still gives enough power that you can charge a smaller power station or ebike battery in my case would be totally viable. I live in little Italy in Toronto so I'm already disadvantaged latitudely as it is pretty far north and every one of the neighbors has a lovely tree or grapevine or...errr..."shrubbery" that is totally legal in Canada but maybe not in the some of the States so much. So when my hippie neighbor(great guy) has his "shrubbery" buds in full bloom I get a bit of shading. However the upside, is he's very generous with his "shubbery". Maybe that's not a video I can put on my tech channel.
@@Jasonoid That's still a viable option. I was impressed with the weight and size. Even if they had say a 100w panel that was smaller that still makes an excellent option if you put them in series or parallel. Very impressive. Thanks for the video. I'm definitely going to keep an eye on these panels.
Power optimizers are designed for larger home grid tie systems using larger 400w panels. I'd say these Renogy panels are meant for smaller portable setups. I haven't tested DC optimizers in this type of situation.
Thank you for the review Jason and making me aware of this new panel. For me this panel wins because of the three factors you mentioned: shade tolerance, size, and cost. If it had done poorly in any of the three, it would probably not be worth talking about. These three make it a viable candidate to use camping on my car. For home use, it needs to compete with my Renogy bi-facial panels. Cost is slightly higher for this panel, size is not as much a factor, and shadow tolerance would be nice but is it better than having bi-facial? This is just a rhetorical question. You asked what I thought. 😂
In most cases bifacial panels don't add much power. You have to have the bifacial panel mounted high above the ground to see any significant gains. I'd rather take the shading performance in my use case, I have to deal with lots of shading.
I'd be interested to see if it matters which cells are covered. For example, would you get more out of it if the top/bottom half was shaded vs the left/right half?
Jason, now that someone has developed a "shadow resistant" silicon panel. Could you compare the 200w CIGS BougeRV to this panel. Size, weight and shading. output over a complete day (not just a certain time of the day). reason I say this is others have compared CIGS to SILICON and made comments that a CIGS panel starts outputting earlier in the morning and later in the afternoon vs silicon...so output over the day, week..month is as good or better than mono over time..plus the shading benefits. I know at the end you compared cost vs CIGS, but size and more importantly weight/portability of CIGS might be a benefit to some. Thanks
Hey Jason, do you think you could get away with installing 2 of those panels in series and connecting to your delta 3 plus? Or are you sure it would be over voltage (assuming 60v max rating)? (I haven’t learned yet which numbers I need to know when adding together for series connection.)
You can't connect two of these together in series, the voltage would be too high (over 60). You could connect two of them in parallel and you have about 31v @ 13 amps for 400 watts. Just make sure you use the XT60i MC4 cable to get the peak amperage.
@@Jasonoidthanks for the info. I actually have a delta 2 max, but it would be similar specs (x2 ports).and regarding your video I’m in a shady area though and I am very interested in these newer panel types, basically waiting for them to mature fully and create a backup system.
It's as durable as a typically glass rigid panel. The main thing that would break it would be a large hailstorm or tree branches hitting them while driving.
I'm sure you could, but if the non shade panel gets shade, you might lose a lot of voltage or wattage production. Then there's also the issue of does your station accept that high of a voltage.
@ I already had a 200 watt regular panel and was going to get another but these panels look pretty nice and I do get quite a bit of shade . It doesn’t look like I could put 2 of these in series anyway on my delta max 2 due to the volts. Tnx
All through the video unti lthe end i thought you were testing the new Ecoflow Bifacial solar panels but when you showed the price im like nope thats not an Ecoflow. I cant remember if you reviwed the Ecoflow panels yet ill have to look.
Bifacial panels need to be mounted high above the ground or vertical to see a big difference in power. They don't benefit from being mounted flush with a surface and they don't have any shading benefits.
In order to get bifacial gains, your solar panel needs to be mounted 10 feet high off the ground, or mounted vertically. Bifacial solar panels are a little misleading. I have three bifacial panels mounted on my shed, they see no benefit over my normal panels since light can get behind them.
Jason, we ordered our first solar generator last evening, 1-2-25 and I’m wondering if you know the solar input rate capability of the ANKER F3800? I would like to buy this Renergy panel if it is a compatible solar panel for the Anker F 3800. I don’t want to miss this sale price. Thank you 0:09
You can connect four of these 200 panels in PARALLEL for around 800 watts charging on each port of the F3800. Connecting five panels won't give you much more power due to the voltage and amperage limits on the power station.
Anybody know if this tech also improves cloudy day performance? Only thing preventing me from investing in solar is my geographic location. NE Indiana...the 4-5 months I need the most electricity are the cloudiest, snowy and low sunlight hours per day. Can't get the math to add up to ROI in less than 12 years. (battery system, no grid tie payback from electric co.). Frustrated.
Interesting result, however, the price.... I don´t know what prices are worldwide, but one gets a 400-440 W panel for 79-109€ .... 240 $ for 200 W is CRAP! Even if the shading technique is good.
I think I'll stick with Bifacial panels. If this "shade" tech was relevant, it would have been implemented years ago. Renogy is lagging wayyyyy behind.
Wow, very nice technology. Expensive, but very good advancement. For people with very limited space, this is a very interesting option.
I'm sure the price will drop over time, new products always have a higher price.
I like the technology. That shade feature is a must for us folks that live in small neighborhoods where we don't have an open field to place our solar panels. Also, the smaller size is great for us small homeowners. Thanks so much, Jason.
I agree that if you have to deal with any sort of shading these panels will give you a significant increase in power 👍
@@danieltimisan6820 it's not a marketing scam if it actually does what it says.... 😂
@@danieltimisan6820 , is a 24v or 48v battery a scam too?
@@danieltimisan6820so why is it a “scam” as you put it. Compared to other panels this panel delivers the best performance under various adverse circumstances at a competitive price. Did you even watch the video?
That's impressive! Thanks for the test and all the best in 2025, Jason.
Happy New Year, thanks for watching!
This is what I've been waiting for! I've currently got around 1200W of deployed solar on my sailboat but shading is a massive problem. Two masts, rigging, and equipment aloft constantly shade various panels throughout the day, and I generally see less than 4kWh of production on a perfectly clear day near the equinox.
I wouldn't be surprised if these panels net a 50% increase in production. I'm maxxed out, space-wise, but 6kWh could pretty much meet my entire electrical demand and allow me to spend weeks at anchor without running a generator.
I think these panels were specifically designed for your use case! 👍
omg the can trick so cool, thanks - impressive tech can't wait till its gets cheaper.
It's a simple way to angle the panel 👍
I seriously thought it was a joke at first until he finished the demonstration.
Until it gets cheaper ? I'm not sure if you can call it tech, but a can of peas only cost about $1
Thank you! These are the panels I've been very interested in. 🎉 Nice! I also use the EcoFlow Delta 3 Plus.
I think the 100 watt Shade Stopper came down ( very briefly) to $129. This is such a great technology, can’t wait until it’s more common with more manufacturers.
It exciting to see this type of performance from something that isn't 'complicated' in design! Thanks for watching!
Very impressive shading performance. Seems like these would be great on an RV roof. Thanks for the video :)
Good to see you here in the comments 👍
17% smaller better shaded performance. Sold.
The new panels are improving by leaps and bounds. That looks like a great panel! I have the Renogy hybrid 400 watt foldable panel and I love it
The Renogy Hybrid 400w is a great panel! Thanks for checking out the video, Kevin!
Always the best solar reviews! Thanks Jason! I really like the smaller size, seems like an attractive option for mounting to overlanding rigs due to smaller size and shade tolerance
I agree, a couple of these on the roof and you'll be in great shape 👍
Looks like a really nice designed panel, deff worth getting for those with shading problems.
Thanks Jason - looks sweet! Any time you want to compare this panel to a CIGS head-to-head you'll have my attention!
Oh man..... Those cigs panels are super expensive. I have a video of me testing one in the past 👍
Thanks for the tests
I appreciate you watching!
Looks like it would work well on a Van build/RV set up. Thanks for sharing.
Great video! I think a lot of us deal with partial shading at some point in the day. This panel appears to to resolve this issue quite well. Would probably have to run them in a series/parallel config to keep that VOC in check, but not a big deal at under 7A per panel. And that footprint for this 200W panel is amazingly small in comparison. Thanks for the review on these- Happy New Year!
If you remember the Optivolt panel from last year, that panel couldn't be run in series, it's good this one can 👍
This is a really good product for someone like myself looking to convert my 1-car garage to off grid power with limited roof space for the panels. Thanks for sharing!
Not quite as good (for shade tolerance) as the CIGGS panel but better than pretty much anything else at about 40% of the price. Great review and demo of the shade tolerance. I wonder if another TH-cam reviewer will shoot it full of holes and run over it with a quad:) TOPCON cells are made from n-type (doped) silicon where as most others (silicon) are p-type silicon, which is typically more expensive. They typically do better in space and are more tolerant of radiation damage. I guess enough nerd! Thanks for reviewing them!
Great insights John, I need to read more about each of the technologies!
@@Jasonoid I made and characterized silicon solar cells for 17 years and it's nice to see this technology that i was making 12 years ago finally make it to the consumer level at really good pricing
Happy New Year Jason!
Some of these new panels, that are available, are getting pretty good.
These ones look like they would be a good option for the roof of RVs.
I look forward to another year of your videos,
& all the advancements in technology forthcoming!
Happy new year!
Very informative video. Thank you.
You're welcome, glad you found it helpful!
Thanks, that would be great on top of my truck camper. My panels lay flat.
It should be a great option for your camper!
Great performance under the circumstances. Thanks for the info. 👍
Thanks for checking out the video
nice 👍 i have 12 10 bb. hqst panels....i m going to expand another 800 watts. ill buy 4 of these and give it try. thanks for the video
I think the HQST panels are a branch of Renogy (their panels have the exact sizing and specs). I wonder if HQST will come out with something like this.
@Jasonoid yes 👍
Impressive results!
Nice.
~Long live the solar tour.
Pricing is spot on for this sale. As close to $1.00 per watt is my goal for quality solar.
I'm hoping to see those prices continuing to drop!
That's pretty impressive!!
I thought it did pretty good in the testing 👍
The winter shading is destroying my solar gains. I have 1800w of panels and on a good day i am getting about 1700wh for the whole day. I like this new renogy!
Jason, any chance you have 2 of the shade stopper panels? Would be cool to see a shadowflux VS shadestopper (2in parallel) VS comparable bifacial with at least 10bb and halfcut cells.
These new N-type panels are amazing. I have a couple of them. This is great for van life where size is a premium and the shadow effect. For home usage, still too expensive for the usable wattage per $1. I mean I can spend $90 for 150w usable wattage vs $219 for 195w.
Great points! Usually space and shading performance are very important in a portable setup so that's what these are aimed for. If you are going big, pick up some 400w panels for $150 each.
@@Jasonoid Any recommendations?
@@shooks555 check out this video to find the best deals on 400w panels locally:
th-cam.com/video/pLRKljjaqMA/w-d-xo.html
Impressive performance. Just curious, if you shade a whole row (top to bottom), does is still perform well? Just was curious if they were connecting the cells in a way that might impact that kind of shading more than the left to right shading. I have some rough shading in the winter months for the ones on my shed due to some neighbor's trees.
Great question, I'll need to test that type of shading. If you look on their website it seems it performs well in that type of test too.
That's pretty impressive! I'm definitely interested despite the initial price.
If you have a small project that's going to be in the shade, these panels are a great option. For a larger project without shade, stick with traditional 400w panels.
Awesome test. Not every solar panel can be mounted at the optimum angle, which we all know angle can also reduce output. An example would be on top of an RV, where most have to be flat. I’d love to see a test between the two panels at different angles (flat to optimum) and see how the two compare and performance.
Oh man, I’d really like to know if shade tolerant panels are better at non-optimum angles?
I'll consider that next time I'm testing these sort of panels.
I bought two of these in a 2pack for charging my Bluetti 200L that accepts up to 145 volts charging…I’m so tempted to buy a third panel to almost max out the allowed input voltage
You can definitely connect three in series into the AC200L
@@Jasonoid these must be selling like hotcakes. They are out of stock on some sites , but I found my third one at the sale rate…on the way!
This looks like a very impressive solar panel especially if it can be purchased for the sale price. I'm a home owner that has to look out for shading and this is the best option so far both for the cost and especially the efficiency. Would be nice to have a little bit more testing particularly when shading. What wattage would you get when shading half the panel in the other direction (lengthwise)? Knowing that value would probably have me order a number of panels instantly. Thanks for the review Jason!
Current 400w panels have two halves, one 200w panel on top, one 200w panel on bottom. If you are only shading the bottom or top of the panel you'll get an okay shading performance. Vertical shading you'll lose most of the power. The 400w panels might be more cost effective for your project.
So as long as you dont have a shading issue your fine with the regular panels.. 2-100w Renogy panels run about $166 with another 30% coupon on top of that.. we live in Nevada.. so shade isnt a thing around us lol.. still a nice panel though..
These also take up less space so you could technically install more of these panels in the same space. The main advantage is shading performance though 👍
What about the impact of dust build up? I bet these would perform a lot better than standard panels even in the desert where shade isn't an issue.
I'd love to see it kind of shaded by leaves. You know the kind of patchy moving shadows where some light gets through? I'd want to put them on the roof of my little shed/cabin set up I'm planning so I can visit my mother more often. Her yard/property is surrounded by trees, I'm sure I can angle them in a way where I can get a few hours of good clear sunlight, but most of the day will probably be partially shaded at least.
Good stuff.. thanks!
I love the panel. I have a lot of shade trees in my yard and this could help me from chasing the sun when I use my units . I have the generation one EcoFlow Delta Max 2000 units so have to watch the voltage. Do you know if connecting them in parallel would offer more or less the same results? As always, a top notch video.
They can be connected in series and parallel 👍
I am wanting to add solar to our bumper pull RV. These might be ideal.
If you have to deal with shading from you AC unit / or other rooftop objects casting shadows, I think these would perform really well!
➖ Very impressive. Now I wonder how they compare on *overcast* days. ➖
Sounds like I need to test that scenario! 👍
Can you review the Callsun N type 100w panel? It's the smallest 100w panel, smaller than BougeRV N type, but no bifacial and I've read mix reviews on output from over 100w to 87w. Both are good but i only buy panels that output their stated watts.
And the Callsun are crazy cheap.
Mine arrives on the 8th.
Very useful info, thank you. I wish you would of compared both panels using shade from a branch with no leaf. This situation is frequent in the winter Months.
Thanks for the feedback!
That is legit for sure 👍
Well now i might need one or two.
I don't agree the solar panels are a good price. Maybe considering the shading thing, if you have no other choice, but for most people you can buy good solar panels for .22c-45c per watt easily(excluding shipping). Now if you want less than 10 panels, specifically just 2-4, this might be the only case this is a better option for you.
These panels are meant for a smaller application where shading is an issue. Think of an RV, sailboat, shed roof, enclosed trailer or other similar installs.
@@Jasonoidmy house in Quebec is surrounded by large trees, didn't think any sort of solar setup made any sense, but this is a lifesaver
Cam I use it with anker 3800
Four of these panels in PARALLEL on each charging port will give you about 800 watts, or 1600w total.
Newbie to solar here. I thought shade meant when there is not full sun. Have you tested that with maybe a 10- 20% shade cloth covering the entire panel?
You're confusing partial shade, against overcast conditions. Very different conditions and power output.
@ I would still be curious how/if this shade technology impacts output in overcast conditions
@@Memyselfandionyoutube I agree, love to see an overcast test on this panel.
Could you do another video where you test the ability to work on an overcast day? You could set up a light panel on a day with intermittent overcast and try to measure output based on the lux reading at the panel. Then build your summary table based on the lux readings and corresp;onding power outputs. My guess is that this panel will operate with more overcast than other panels. Understanding if we can get even 1/10th of the rated power on a rainy or overcast day would be a big deal.
Normal solar panels produce 10% on an overcast day, I have a bunch of these panels I could test with in a different video.
@@Jasonoid So I am guessing Shadowflux might produce 30% in the same conditions. That would be a very big deal to report
That's extremely impressive. For some of us with postage stamp sized backyards this would probably make a good option. Especially if you are in my situation where a pesky little tree branch at certain times of the day, is killing half the wattage. I would love to see a foldable option. Doesn't have to be in the 200w range necessarily, but say in the 120w range perhaps? So it's small enough that lugging it around say in the back of your car or whatever is not a big problem, but it still gives enough power that you can charge a smaller power station or ebike battery in my case would be totally viable. I live in little Italy in Toronto so I'm already disadvantaged latitudely as it is pretty far north and every one of the neighbors has a lovely tree or grapevine or...errr..."shrubbery" that is totally legal in Canada but maybe not in the some of the States so much. So when my hippie neighbor(great guy) has his "shrubbery" buds in full bloom I get a bit of shading. However the upside, is he's very generous with his "shubbery". Maybe that's not a video I can put on my tech channel.
I think they have plans for a future 120w version, wouldn't be a portable panel though, similar to this glass design.
@@Jasonoid That's still a viable option. I was impressed with the weight and size. Even if they had say a 100w panel that was smaller that still makes an excellent option if you put them in series or parallel. Very impressive. Thanks for the video. I'm definitely going to keep an eye on these panels.
Thx u
Would power optimizers yield similar results?
Power optimizers are designed for larger home grid tie systems using larger 400w panels. I'd say these Renogy panels are meant for smaller portable setups. I haven't tested DC optimizers in this type of situation.
Thank you for the review Jason and making me aware of this new panel. For me this panel wins because of the three factors you mentioned: shade tolerance, size, and cost. If it had done poorly in any of the three, it would probably not be worth talking about. These three make it a viable candidate to use camping on my car. For home use, it needs to compete with my Renogy bi-facial panels. Cost is slightly higher for this panel, size is not as much a factor, and shadow tolerance would be nice but is it better than having bi-facial? This is just a rhetorical question. You asked what I thought. 😂
In most cases bifacial panels don't add much power. You have to have the bifacial panel mounted high above the ground to see any significant gains. I'd rather take the shading performance in my use case, I have to deal with lots of shading.
I'd be interested to see if it matters which cells are covered.
For example, would you get more out of it if the top/bottom half was shaded vs the left/right half?
It's hard to test every scenario in a video like this. When the average view duration is 3 minutes I kinda have to be brief lol...
Jason, now that someone has developed a "shadow resistant" silicon panel. Could you compare the 200w CIGS BougeRV to this panel. Size, weight and shading. output over a complete day (not just a certain time of the day). reason I say this is others have compared CIGS to SILICON and made comments that a CIGS panel starts outputting earlier in the morning and later in the afternoon vs silicon...so output over the day, week..month is as good or better than mono over time..plus the shading benefits. I know at the end you compared cost vs CIGS, but size and more importantly weight/portability of CIGS might be a benefit to some.
Thanks
I'll consider doing another shade testing video. My previous video comparing the CIGS panel to other options got hardly any views.
Doesn't Utah Get a ton of snow around this time of year? It looks so nice out
No snow, just rain.
Hey Jason, do you think you could get away with installing 2 of those panels in series and connecting to your delta 3 plus? Or are you sure it would be over voltage (assuming 60v max rating)? (I haven’t learned yet which numbers I need to know when adding together for series connection.)
You can't connect two of these together in series, the voltage would be too high (over 60). You could connect two of them in parallel and you have about 31v @ 13 amps for 400 watts. Just make sure you use the XT60i MC4 cable to get the peak amperage.
@@Jasonoidthanks for the info. I actually have a delta 2 max, but it would be similar specs (x2 ports).and regarding your video I’m in a shady area though and I am very interested in these newer panel types, basically waiting for them to mature fully and create a backup system.
Does that translate to better power output on overcast days?
I think I should definitely test that out!
@@Jasonoid Cool, I look forward to seeing your results
Would these be an option for RV rooftops, or is it to heavy, or fragile, its certainly small enough
It's as durable as a typically glass rigid panel. The main thing that would break it would be a large hailstorm or tree branches hitting them while driving.
Could you put one of these in series with the regular renogy 200?
I'm sure you could, but if the non shade panel gets shade, you might lose a lot of voltage or wattage production. Then there's also the issue of does your station accept that high of a voltage.
It's best to put matching / similar solar panels together when building an array.
@ I already had a 200 watt regular panel and was going to get another but these panels look pretty nice and I do get quite a bit of shade . It doesn’t look like I could put 2 of these in series anyway on my delta max 2 due to the volts. Tnx
I'd imagine the voltage output is still affected? If so groups of panels in series/parallel might still be affected more than individual solar panels.
Renogy says the voltage stays at peak power, even under shading conditions
All through the video unti lthe end i thought you were testing the new Ecoflow Bifacial solar panels but when you showed the price im like nope thats not an Ecoflow. I cant remember if you reviwed the Ecoflow panels yet ill have to look.
Haven't tested any recent Ecoflow panels.
how would it stack up against bifacial?
Bifacial panels need to be mounted high above the ground or vertical to see a big difference in power. They don't benefit from being mounted flush with a surface and they don't have any shading benefits.
Great video. I like the details you provide. Could you help me figure out i can use the shade panel with a vtoman jump 1000?
Looks like the VTOMAN Jump 1000 has a 30v limit for solar charging, this solar panel is not compatible.
@Jasonoid bummer thx
How well will these panels perform if there is 2 of them connected in series? Will shading on one panel affect the output of the second panel?
Renogy says the voltage stays high, even under shading so they should perform well in series.
@@Jasonoid That's good news. Only, I wish someone could test this out before purchasing.
@@twiddler71 I'm back to cloudy days for the next week. Winter is horrible for testing, sorry.
@@Jasonoid Actually, testing on cloudy days would be good information for me. I get lots of cloudy days where I live.
@@twiddler71 plan for 10 to 15 percent output during cloudy days.
What do you have to say about bifacial technology
In order to get bifacial gains, your solar panel needs to be mounted 10 feet high off the ground, or mounted vertically. Bifacial solar panels are a little misleading. I have three bifacial panels mounted on my shed, they see no benefit over my normal panels since light can get behind them.
Jason, we ordered our first solar generator last evening, 1-2-25 and I’m wondering if you know the solar input rate capability of the ANKER F3800?
I would like to buy this Renergy panel if it is a compatible solar panel for the Anker F 3800.
I don’t want to miss this sale price.
Thank you 0:09
You can connect four of these 200 panels in PARALLEL for around 800 watts charging on each port of the F3800. Connecting five panels won't give you much more power due to the voltage and amperage limits on the power station.
Finally it's ok to be kinda shady.
😂👍 love it!
Check out JJN solar panels N-type panels. Cheaper than Renogy N-Type.
Ill have to look them up. Do they claim the same shading performance?
I love these panels but these are too expensive.. there must be other 16bb cheaper alternatives with bifacial too
I'm sure there are other N-Type solar panels, I'm not sure if they offer the same shading performance though.
Anybody know if this tech also improves cloudy day performance? Only thing preventing me from investing in solar is my geographic location. NE Indiana...the 4-5 months I need the most electricity are the cloudiest, snowy and low sunlight hours per day. Can't get the math to add up to ROI in less than 12 years. (battery system, no grid tie payback from electric co.). Frustrated.
This solar panel might help a little bit more than a normal panel but you'll still see a large loss in power as you have clouds / snow.
Now all Renogy has to do is mass produce this. Selling out far to soon.
Size 127cm to 76,2cm. You are welcome. Metric units for the win 🤣 1262x764x30 mm and 10.8kg , from the label at 6:05
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Just wish voltage was around 24
Yeah, it's a little higher so wiring them in a 2s config would go over 60v.
@Jasonoid yes and many generators max at 150 VOC so you can't do as many in series.
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$200+ for a 200watt solar panel!! 😮😮😮
Is this a bad joke or what??
A brand new 580 watt n-type bifacial panel is priced at $90 where I live!
You gunna fit a 580w panel on your truck roof rack? This is for portability and small installs. Smaller panels are always more expensive...
Interesting result, however, the price.... I don´t know what prices are worldwide, but one gets a 400-440 W panel for 79-109€ .... 240 $ for 200 W is CRAP! Even if the shading technique is good.
I think I'll stick with Bifacial panels. If this "shade" tech was relevant, it would have been implemented years ago. Renogy is lagging wayyyyy behind.