Thank you so much, I haven’t ridden my bike for around 8 months just due to having this problem and not knowing how to fix it and you’ve just saved me potentially a fair bit of money getting it fixed, love you and the vid man really really appreciate it ❤
Great vid mate and I do enjoy the maintenance vids and this happened to my 170 a few yrs ago same damage to the same cogs quite an easy fix not had any problems since fingers crossed anyway look forward to the next vid 👍
Same i enjoy making them but they are more time consuming recording everything. But all good and yes I remembered you did it and said reasonably straight forward so I went for it lol Cheers 🍻
@@el_delaoz nope this just uses the stock cdi but i know the later models have a decompression system, to be honest I've never had issue with this, not like the z155 kickbacks
Hey mate! Do you think that it will help for “loose” kickstarter odds do I need more parts? Probably I broke it because I had no clue how to kick properly 😥
There's a weird sound coming from mine when I ride it don't know how to describe it, almost like a grind or chain slap but sounds internal. From the left side of the engine. But it also kick slips sometimes
Gday, i recently got a pit bike. I think its a motorworks (if that is a brand) one but not sure as ive never had a pit bike before, its a 2011 125cc and the kickstart sometimes gets stuck when kicking, it also has low oil and i dunno what oil it takes, any help would be fantastic, 😁👍
hi mate on my m2r rf160 the other day its stared making a cranking noise when i tried to kickstart it, i think this is the problem but i also cant find anywhere that sells the parts. yk where?
Hey man, awesome video saved my life as my like has turned pink due to sitting so long, but it’s about to go white as it’s just done it agaiiiin 😒 what’s causing them to repeatedly break? Is it the compresssion ? Driving me up the wall 😂
Mine feels weird. It doesn't slip when kicked, but when kicked hard it feels like something drags or catches and stops the rotational force. I had mine apart and didn't see the gears like this, but hope i didn't miss it. Can't find those gears for mine though, so I sure hope not...
@@matteoraab1484 more torque on 190 but not quicker. So does not matter as much to what gear 190 is in comparison to 170. 170 quicker up to 57mph which is plenty off road
My 160 never did but not used like this 1. I've heard tho they were prone to it, don't fancy doing the regularly hopefully OK now for another 50 plus hours
why does it break so fast compared to a car ? higher rpm or external forces on the gears ? I see you've collected one of those restricted byway signs haha
56 hours of abuse but they are only an old c90 engine pumped up and over 40 years so not designed great plus chinesium metal doesn't help, it's poor quality. So yes more forces than they had planned for it. Haha the sign was broke so I picked up as discarded on the floor like rubbish.
@@motomachinezuk8786 my cousin fell off the MTB again, this time on perfectly good dry road, I let him borrow it for 5 minutes, he needed 8 stitches under the chin, it was quite a bad one, everywhere else was fine. Don't know how he managed it as it has 2.25 inch tyres and its only 1500w, rear brake isn't that strong either.
@@motomachinezuk8786 he says he still wants the bike but his mum says hes not allowed to go out on it otherwise we would have gone out this weekend. Last time we went he dislodged my bbshd and I had to redo it, and he was lucky not to get ran over as he was on the wrong side of the road at a weird junction in silverstone, I think it confused him because its double or triple the width of a normal junction. He has some sort of problem thats hard to pin down, physical coordination mostly or doing stupid things unpredictably.
@@ash0787 he is one of them who breaks or falls off stuff every time ? So he listens to his mum then. He will only get more competent with seat time so its a difficult situation. Nice of you to let me borrow your bikes
I would get rid of that big kickstart johnny i bought one for my 170 and it jumped teeth i took it off immediatlely and put the smaller one back on i fully blame the kicksart for your sprocket trouble mate
To be honest I've hardly used the kickstart as electric start usually works. I know what you mean tho they are rubbish and stick out to catch tour shin.
Now we see why the kickstart was broke in the first place 😅 take it easy to prime and give 1 solid kick, don’t kick down on it like that, that’s what happened
Thank you so much, I haven’t ridden my bike for around 8 months just due to having this problem and not knowing how to fix it and you’ve just saved me potentially a fair bit of money getting it fixed, love you and the vid man really really appreciate it ❤
Hi mate where did you get your gears from
😊😊😊l
@@keironbartlett7786sorry for the shit response and I’m guessing you found them but I got mine off eBay ! Sorry
What’s the name of the socket you used on the clutch basket
could leave a link to the parts that you brought ? or at leatas name the kit to look for ?
I’ve changed my clutch basket gear as the teeth were worn and the new gear is already getting worn a lot, any advice?
Great vid mate and I do enjoy the maintenance vids and this happened to my 170 a few yrs ago same damage to the same cogs quite an easy fix not had any problems since fingers crossed anyway look forward to the next vid 👍
Same i enjoy making them but they are more time consuming recording everything.
But all good and yes I remembered you did it and said reasonably straight forward so I went for it lol
Cheers 🍻
What’s this bike called? I’ve the same one I bought second hand and can’t find the specs anywhere or the bike lol
Demon x 170
I need a new kickstart bearing and I don’t know what size it as any ideas ?
Did your ignition never kickback?
Nope
@@motomachinezuk8786 do you use the anti kick back EZ started CDI by OoRacing or Tbolt Usa?
@@el_delaoz nope this just uses the stock cdi but i know the later models have a decompression system, to be honest I've never had issue with this, not like the z155 kickbacks
Hey mate! Do you think that it will help for “loose” kickstarter odds do I need more parts? Probably I broke it because I had no clue how to kick properly 😥
There's a weird sound coming from mine when I ride it don't know how to describe it, almost like a grind or chain slap but sounds internal. From the left side of the engine. But it also kick slips sometimes
What bike ?if it has electric start then possibly starter chain
Gday, i recently got a pit bike. I think its a motorworks (if that is a brand) one but not sure as ive never had a pit bike before, its a 2011 125cc and the kickstart sometimes gets stuck when kicking, it also has low oil and i dunno what oil it takes, any help would be fantastic, 😁👍
10w-40 4 stroke oil and you’re good to go
hi mate on my m2r rf160 the other day its stared making a cranking noise when i tried to kickstart it, i think this is the problem but i also cant find anywhere that sells the parts. yk where?
Sounds like the same issue happening yes. Fun bikes sells the m2r so they should have everything for the job I guess
Hi please where did u get the new gears from mine has just done the same thing
Hi I got from stompparts.com
@@motomachinezuk8786 hi would the 160cc be the same mate as I can’t find them on there
@@CrazySkills7 yes it is the same mate
@@motomachinezuk8786 okay perfect mate what size teeth are they normally mate
@@motomachinezuk8786 hello mate what’s the tool you use to get the pins off
Hey man, awesome video saved my life as my like has turned pink due to sitting so long, but it’s about to go white as it’s just done it agaiiiin 😒 what’s causing them to repeatedly break? Is it the compresssion ? Driving me up the wall 😂
The 2 gears together,1 is attached to the kickstart shaft,can anyone tell me what the 1 above it is as the shaft is broken broken behind the gear
Mine wont kick at all it will let y pull it down but it stops at a point and doesnt go on
Whats wrong with the subframe it looks like its been flipped or something ?
Yes it was flipped/looped once or twice but I do have a replacement subframe to put on very soon
Mine feels weird. It doesn't slip when kicked, but when kicked hard it feels like something drags or catches and stops the rotational force. I had mine apart and didn't see the gears like this, but hope i didn't miss it. Can't find those gears for mine though, so I sure hope not...
Sounds like it's the kick start wearing to me but might be OK for a bit. Not sure what else it could be. Good luck with solving it mate
If you have time just take off the crank case and check every gear and clean out everything one at a time
Also do regular checks like seeing if you have spark irmf you haven't used It for a while and if you fuel jets have been blocked or not
How long you had it for
Had about 60hrs on it
@@motomachinezuk8786 was that before the kick started slipping
@@bobjoe-dw5dc yes before I fixed it
Thanks
Was the cog called for me to search
Can anyone give me a link for the replacementparts for Derbi Senda. I can't find it
Hey what engine do you like more…The 170 or the 190?
170
@@motomachinezuk8786 ah thanks for the fast response… how is the power compared ?
@@matteoraab1484 more torque on 190 but not quicker. So does not matter as much to what gear 190 is in comparison to 170. 170 quicker up to 57mph which is plenty off road
@@motomachinezuk8786 ah thanks mate for the response.
Thanks for making this video!
Thank you I also hope it helped
My 160cc use to go though them two gears like no tomorrow felt like I was ordering them one a week such a pain
My 160 never did but not used like this 1. I've heard tho they were prone to it, don't fancy doing the regularly hopefully OK now for another 50 plus hours
This is normal in these engines because the kik will reflect and damage these modes
Mine just stops mid way it doesn't go down down it's just barely going
why does it break so fast compared to a car ? higher rpm or external forces on the gears ? I see you've collected one of those restricted byway signs haha
56 hours of abuse but they are only an old c90 engine pumped up and over 40 years so not designed great plus chinesium metal doesn't help, it's poor quality. So yes more forces than they had planned for it.
Haha the sign was broke so I picked up as discarded on the floor like rubbish.
@@motomachinezuk8786 my cousin fell off the MTB again, this time on perfectly good dry road, I let him borrow it for 5 minutes, he needed 8 stitches under the chin, it was quite a bad one, everywhere else was fine. Don't know how he managed it as it has 2.25 inch tyres and its only 1500w, rear brake isn't that strong either.
@@ash0787 oh no nightmare! I doubt he will want another go on it ? How was bike after that off ? Hope he recovers soon 🙏
@@motomachinezuk8786 he says he still wants the bike but his mum says hes not allowed to go out on it otherwise we would have gone out this weekend. Last time we went he dislodged my bbshd and I had to redo it, and he was lucky not to get ran over as he was on the wrong side of the road at a weird junction in silverstone, I think it confused him because its double or triple the width of a normal junction. He has some sort of problem thats hard to pin down, physical coordination mostly or doing stupid things unpredictably.
@@ash0787 he is one of them who breaks or falls off stuff every time ?
So he listens to his mum then.
He will only get more competent with seat time so its a difficult situation.
Nice of you to let me borrow your bikes
Very good video very informative 👍👍
Thank you, appreciate the kind feedback
Sounds like you need to tune your idleing screw mate
I would get rid of that big kickstart johnny i bought one for my 170 and it jumped teeth i took it off immediatlely and put the smaller one back on i fully blame the kicksart for your sprocket trouble mate
To be honest I've hardly used the kickstart as electric start usually works. I know what you mean tho they are rubbish and stick out to catch tour shin.
@@motomachinezuk8786 i meant on your detroit mate that big kickstart lol ,bullhead needs to get his arse out on his aswell hahaha
Ill figure it out
U dint split the engine you just took the cover!!
Mine dose this an I cba 2 do it lol 😆
Now we see why the kickstart was broke in the first place 😅 take it easy to prime and give 1 solid kick, don’t kick down on it like that, that’s what happened